Hi,
Most of these are supposedly taken from the camera in Xperia... They look great for a 3.2 mega-pixel camera...
http://xperiancers.com/images/
Best regards.
I think only one picture was really taken with the Xperia X1.
You can flip the images and only one image has a comment which states that the picture was taken using the X1 camera.
Hmm... i think you may be right. Their main post led me to believe that most of them were, but i probably interpretted it wrong.
but the picture lineout looks cool with the movements and such
Yes quite cool and it's free to use: tiltViewer
By the way: Here you can find the photo taken with the Xperia X1 in higher resolution: click
Looks very good!
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=pre...nia-sony-ericsson-x1-camera-comparison-update
Rudegar said:
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=pre...nia-sony-ericsson-x1-camera-comparison-update
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"With the Beta ROM, the house was more yellow then red but now, with the final ROM, the camera quality definitely improved and colors are right now." They say this for the i900... so hopefully we'll see further improvement in Xperia's final ROM.
The Omnia has a pretty decent photo quality for a mobile phone, but to be honest, the X1, Diamond and Touch Pro is really pathetic.
Let's see if the final ROM gives some improvement on this, but my hopes are not very high. (Fortunately, I don't need the camera anyways)
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Really?
But he also stated following:
An image shot using the camera on the Xperia X1 at the media preview event on Monday the 15th Sept 08. Bear in mind that this is in very low light, hence the motion blur.
So low light conditions are always difficult and of course especially for an inbuilt mobile phone camera.
foo said:
I think only one picture was really taken with the Xperia X1.
You can flip the images and only one image has a comment which states that the picture was taken using the X1 camera.
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Why you said that? There is not reason to believe these pictures weren't taken with the X1. Maybe you secretly wished to be bad.
The ones at the bottom OBVIOUSLY, were not. those the original art from Feb 10th 2008. All the others they HAVE text on the reverse but who cares it's just estupid effect of the creators of this viewer that is nice but just annoying. If I want to see a picture or download it I don't need all that tilting.
Well maybe you're right though I don't believe it.
You can also have a look at the flicker stream here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/
The naming and the quality of the pictures is very different.
But okay, unfortunately they removed all EXIF otherwise it would have been easy to find out, but so I can only guess by indication.
Much better photos form X1
Lot of good photos taken using X1:-
http://www.wallpaper.com/interiors/london-design-festival-2008/2625
( in the bottom 3 GALLEYS)
The photo quality is better then I would have expected, though it can't compete with a compact camera, it shows a really decent quality for a smartphone.
Very nice
foo said:
The photo quality is better then I would have expected, though it can't compete with a compact camera, it shows a really decent quality for a smartphone.
Very nice
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And a compact camera can not compite the other features of the Xperia.
C'mon... we all know that.
In a positive way, I would compare these great pictures to the Touch Pro. Oranges and Oranges.
I kinda want to see a side by side of the X1 and the K790a/K800i. Judging by the pictures on all the sites the camera on the X1 appears to be far worse than those 2 year old handsets.
Yup, they are worse, worse than most current cameraphones (N95, N82, Innov8, Omnia, many other Sony models). You have to live with that with this phone, but at least they're serviceable enough in decent light conditions.
My camera on my wizard is covered by a skin right now so that goes to show you how much I care about a camera lol.
foo said:
The Omnia has a pretty decent photo quality for a mobile phone, but to be honest, the X1, Diamond and Touch Pro is really pathetic.
Let's see if the final ROM gives some improvement on this, but my hopes are not very high. (Fortunately, I don't need the camera anyways)
Really?
But he also stated following:
An image shot using the camera on the Xperia X1 at the media preview event on Monday the 15th Sept 08. Bear in mind that this is in very low light, hence the motion blur.
So low light conditions are always difficult and of course especially for an inbuilt mobile phone camera.
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I was comparing that with the Kaiser
foo said:
I think only one picture was really taken with the Xperia X1.
You can flip the images and only one image has a comment which states that the picture was taken using the X1 camera.
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does x1 have got cam
cihanleanne said:
does x1 have got cam
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That thread is from 2008.
And yes, the x1 has cam (1 front. 1 back)
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Uploaded to a new thread cos they were screwing up another thread on a different topic...
The comparison camera: My 4 year-old Canon Ixus 300
This is how far behind the pace the Universal's camera is... :roll:
Lets be honest though, the universal isnt really marketed for having a great camera. Its good for taking quite snapshots, but if your are that serious about taking pictures, get a nokia N90 or a digital camera. Its not really the camera what is bad, its just the really bad, plastic lens what is.
Can your 4 year old Ixus make phone calls, browse the web, check your emails, listen to music, watch movies?!?!
I was going to post comparisons about how far behind my alienware laptop my Universal is when playing Halflife, but I couldn't get it to run on my Universal :lol:
lol - OK, don't take this out of context please.
Someone in another thread was curious about the camera's abilities,
so I posted these pics as an illustration, but they screwed up the other
thread so I moved them to a new one. (See? They're even screwing
up this one too! ) Maybe the pics are useful for people who are
curious about the Universal's camera.
The camera quality isn't the reason why someone would buy the
Universal (understatement of the year!), but people will be interested
to know just how good/bad it is. This thread is an objective
demonstration just for them. 8)
I carry a nice 3.2 MPx Casio Exilim S100 - small, loads of useful features and otherwise fills the camera niche. The Exec replaced my P900 + x50v setup. I now use the x50v for development testing.
No probs for me using the universal for photos!!
Sorry guys. I'm quite happy with my jasjar for photos (considering it ain't a dedicated digitl camera!!)
I'm sure that HTC could really put a better camera on the Universal and in all WM devices; the problem is that they don't care ....they have so much space that they can put the K750 i sonyericsson camera module :lol:
If you have a look at the first comparison shots at the top of the kitchen, the Universal shot is clearer than the canon shot, look at the clock on the stove, the universal shot is clearer, you can hardly read the canon pic.
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Sorry guys. I'm quite happy with my jasjar for photos (considering it ain't a dedicated digitl camera!!)
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woah!!!!!! this is realllllllyyyy gooooddd!!!!
I guess its built to handle outdoors really well!
@seal
the point is, they are taken at different resolutions....what you need to see in the comparison is, the color quality and richness....!
San
Yes you are right there.....
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@seal
the point is, they are taken at different resolutions....what you need
to see in the comparison is, the color quality and richness....!
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No no no!
Two of the pictures (the small ones) are taken at the same resolution
so that we can directly compare them! The Canon shot is a thumbnail.
Click on it to get the 640x480 version to match the 640x480 Universal
pic.
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dreamtheater39 said:
@seal
the point is, they are taken at different resolutions....what you need
to see in the comparison is, the color quality and richness....!
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No no no!
Two of the pictures (the small ones) are taken at the same resolution
so that we can directly compare them! The Canon shot is a thumbnail.
Click on it to get the 640x480 version to match the 640x480 Universal
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i think you just added the 640x480 version recently by editing your post didnt you??
we just had the 1280pic from the universal, and the 640pic from your canon....of course....until you edited it unless....there was a problem with my browser!
Cheers!
S
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Universal (understatement of the year!), but people will be interested
to know just how good/bad it is. This thread is an objective
demonstration just for them. 8)[/quote]
If thats the case, then its alright. I dont like people dissin the device cos it doesn't take great pictures. No device on the market does what the jasjar can do, n i dare someone to argue with me on that
Sorry if we hijacked your thread.
can somebody post more pictures??? especially those taken with bad lighting conditions....
a couple pics in pitch dark, with the flash turned on...along with night mode on would be great too!
@universal
Noone would argue with you for sure you sure love your device!!!
San
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.. No device on the market does what the jasjar can do, n i dare someone to argue with me on that
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Mate you should see the quality of pictures from the SE K750i they are really fantastic. Also the K750's battery lasts my wife 7 days and it is on 24hrs a day. So no competition for the JJ/Exec but makes you think
Like universaldoc wrote there is no other device like the universal, some phones might have a better camera but can they log into your computer on the other side of the world and fully control it..... The answer is clearly NO....... What is being said here is the Universal, despite its little problem, is a Phone/PDA in one that does is all. We will have better in the future but at this present time there is no comparison to anything Ericsson can make and that goes for in the future with Ericsson.
@seal, I know what is being said but not everyone wants all the features of the Universal. For me I still to use my PSP for videos over my Exec and I prefer the music reproduction of my Nokia 9500 (OGG) and Palm LifeDrive (DRM) over the Exec; the Exec music reproduction is very bass light.
I think that the camera is pretty ok with right settings...
@jah,
I agree that the camera is better on the SE K750i, probably the best after the Sharp V203SH.
But i just feel that it is rather unfair to diss the Universal based on the camera. As i have said before, if camera is a criteria for considering the universal, then i am speechless.
Just to make myself clear, i would have purchased the universal even if it did NOT have a camera
Hi,
in a German mobile phone journal I read a review on the Touch HD in which they claim that the camera is somewhat weak:
1. They say that it takes about 3 seconds between pressing to shoot the photo and actually shooting the photo.
2. They say that photos are blurred and out of focus.
Can someone of you that have the Touch HD confirm this? How is the quality of the camera?
I can confirm the 2-3 sec shutter lag on my hd. I wouldn't call the photos blurry, but of the same low mobile phone quality as many earlier generations. the 5mp are completely useless in my opinion, 2mp would be good enough. but the lag is really bad, pretty much rules out any snapshots or pics of moving objects...
I guess this is because of the autofocus working so slow.
It would be better if you could "point and shoot", e.g. as with normal cameras press the shutter half way to focus, and then press through. But I could not find out how to do it.
it says in the camera settings "main camera rear 3.2 mpcmos camera". (?)
i think the camera is fine as when you press shoot it takes a little bit of time to actually take the picture which gives you time to steady the phone in your hands(particularly as i have shaky hands) unlike regular cameras/camera phones when you lose some of the steadyness when pressing a physical shoot button.
quality wise they look fine no complaints here god willing.
..i have to admit that - among the marvelous things which i saw in the last 48 hours - the camera is the one that impressed me less. I really refer to the quality of images in low light conditions, the HTC cmos sensors have never been particularly brilliant and the touch HD is no exception in this respect (but it is in all the other aspects, in my opinion).
pzucchel said:
..i have to admit that - among the marvelous things which i saw in the last 48 hours - the camera is the one that impressed me less. I really refer to the quality of images in low light conditions, the HTC cmos sensors have never been particularly brilliant and the touch HD is no exception in this respect (but it is in all the other aspects, in my opinion).
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Thanks a lot to all the answers. Hmm, I wonder if this is possibly be cured by a software hack or later firmware, but I guess this is hardware related. Too bad. Still unsure between X1 and HD, and I know I would miss a hardware keyboard. Plus, the HD seems to be delayed in Germany ... And now this camera issues. I have to wait and see both live and compare them ...
Eriol
camera is not so bad. Considering that we are talking about a winmo device (the ONLY one with decent camera is samsung I900) I think HD takes brilliant photos when shooting with good light. It'S WAY better than any other HTC and slightly better than Sony Ericsson G900 (another 5mpx smartphone)
and is way back from X1 or Omnia.
ciao Eriol,
(I have a touch HD)
i think you are right: in the doubt, maybe better wait and see. I read about this issue of shooting delays, but actually I am not much sensitive since even with other telephones the time between thinking "i want to make a picture" and the actual picture is...10 seconds? it is very different from a real reflex camera, where in a fraction of a second you are there and the picture is in memory. I don't use the phone camera much, admittedly.
But once you will see a real one: the screen is really beautiful. I could read A4 pdf documents in full screen....by itself, to me is a quantum jump which is big enough to justify the choice.
You can see the picture quality in the attachment.
I's a Blackstone photo? Very good colors, I like'it.
kdomo said:
You can see the picture quality in the attachment.
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Yes, I made the photo, with my Touch HD.
And no PS?
kdomo said:
Yes, I made the photo, with my Touch HD.
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You can see the picture quality in the attachment.
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This is one excellent picture...picture quality is really good
kdomo said:
You can see the picture quality in the attachment.
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That on 5MPX?
Information on it says
2592 x 1552 Pixels (4.02 MPixels)
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And no PS?
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Whats the PS? Photoshop? No.
PS = Photoshop.
So this picture comes directly from the mobile and without manipulation? Very good, indeed.
kdomo said:
Whats the PS? Photoshop? No.
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Yes, 5 MPX. I am can not, why 4.02.
More picture directly from the mobile and without manipulation here:
http://kdomo.extra.hu/hd.zip
Well, these photos can already say that lack a bit of definition. Need sharpness.
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Well, these photos can already say that lack a bit of definition. Need sharpness.
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No wonder, this comes from a ridiculous small sensor and cheap optics. But hey, this is not that bad!
Hi I just want to ask if updating our X10 to Android 2.1 will improve quality of pictures taken with camera.... I know that HD recording is provided, but It's not so importatnt for me. Xperia has 8.1 mpix matrix and strong CPU so it should take cristal photos, but it doesn't. Yesterday I compared quality with my father's Samsung Wave. It also has 1 GHz CPU but "only" 5 Mpix matrix of camera and the Wave takes uncomparable better photos. For example, I've taken a photo of a car from a distance both X10 and Wave.. After zooming in photos on the headsets number plate on the Wave was clear and with huge contrast, but on my X10 I couldn't even recognize numbers I wish to have a good photo camera in my X10.... it's a beautiful device
I think that my phone takes rather good pictures.. Compared to other phones that I've had.
I found that to be able to take good pics on the x10 you will have to adjust the settings manually. Using auto mode provides average photos. You can try "scn auto", it seems to provide better quality pics than "auto" for me
its possible that the SE X10 amera after uodate to 2.1 will take better pictures but it depends if they update the cameras rendering sotware in my opinion, ive previously owned the Samsung Omnia 1 samsung f480, in the case of the omnia 1 my picture quality wasdecent but not that good although the f480 had the same camera module the pictures were a lot better due to better camera software.
so its possible that if x10 gets a camera software uodate in the process it should take/render better images.
someone correct me if im wrong
Could You suggest me the best settings for camera app?
this is most likely due to a bug in X10 the picture blurs when you zoom in on the photo in the phone. Try comparing the 2 photos on a computer screen you may see a different result. The X10 takes very good photos.
jerrytea said:
this is most likely due to a bug in X10 the picture blurs when you zoom in on the photo in the phone. Try comparing the 2 photos on a computer screen you may see a different result. The X10 takes very good photos.
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I agree they are very good but I've noticed (in macro mode) that auto focus often pass by best lens position, and the lens came back to zero position (click audible) and photo loses contarst ...
Hi Karooluss
Im a little disappointed with the Xperia camera too. But I did some tests, and the problem probably it is the high compression used by the original camera software.
I took some picture using the Snap Photo Free, this software doesnt use the entire 8MP resolution, but you can set the JPEG quality to numbers like 90 or 95, getting very crisp and non blotchy photos.
I opened a thread here, looking for some help to find a alternative camera software for X10.
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721312
update messed up my camera more...
date and time on camera
resolution etc is good. just need to know how to set date and time so it reflect on the photos taken. anybody able to advise?
Karooluss said:
I agree they are very good but I've noticed (in macro mode) that auto focus often pass by best lens position, and the lens came back to zero position (click audible) and photo loses contarst ...
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YEA WHAT'S THAT SOUND!?! I HATE IT!
If i'm in macromode and trying to take a close up picture of something, it gets into focus, then it makes a click sound, and then it's out of focus! SO ANNOYING!
synlar said:
YEA WHAT'S THAT SOUND!?! I HATE IT!
If i'm in macromode and trying to take a close up picture of something, it gets into focus, then it makes a click sound, and then it's out of focus! SO ANNOYING!
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Slow down, Click is audible when autofocus is working... are You deaf ? Should I prepare Discovery Ch. material about X10 AF that You understand ?
Also, the wave has true color compared to x10. Zooming doesn't do it justice. On a pc you realize how good the camera is.
i think the x10 has the crappiest of all cameras available in the market.
my 3 yr old nokia n95 takes a 100 times better pics in any conditions compared to the x10.
And this is starting to make me dislike the device.. because i take a lot of pictures..
the x10 cannot even click a document properly..
huh
cvchetan said:
i think the x10 has the crappiest of all cameras available in the market.
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Are you sure?
Mano1982 said:
Are you sure?
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oh yaa... compared to all 3.2 mp+ cameras...
i just got my n73 outta the closet and even it takes better pics.... (its a 3.2 mp)
also my touch hd took amazing pics...
cvchetan said:
oh yaa... compared to all 3.2 mp+ cameras...
i just got my n73 outta the closet and even it takes better pics.... (its a 3.2 mp)
also my touch hd took amazing pics...
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what are u on about? i have an n73 as well and its pictures are vastly inferior to that of the x10.
rocketpaul said:
what are u on about? i have an n73 as well and its pictures are vastly inferior to that of the x10.
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try takin a picture of any page of a book in normal room lighting with both your phones.
upload them to the computer an see the difference...
I can be wrong, but I do believe the Sony Ericsson phones uses Sony's Cybershot software for the camera (Exclusive to Sony cameras and Sony Ericcson devices)
That should improve the overall experience, including image quality, alot. (Compared to android's/other manufacturers defaults)
I think that trying to update to a non Sony/Sony Ericsson solution makes things worse.
However. As I said:
I can be wrong as I'm not sure if this is the case and only something I've heard.
SysGhost said:
I can be wrong, but I do believe the Sony Ericsson phones uses Sony's Cybershot software for the camera (Exclusive to Sony cameras and Sony Ericcson devices)
That should improve the overall experience, including image quality, alot. (Compared to android's/other manufacturers defaults)
I think that trying to update to a non Sony/Sony Ericsson solution makes things worse.
However. As I said:
I can be wrong as I'm not sure if this is the case and only something I've heard.
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SE uses the cybershot software only for the cybershot series. more over i dont think they might have ported the cybershot algorithms to android.
i dont want to say that the x10 has a camera that is crap based on the hardware.
the hardware cam is great, its just that sony has to work on the image processing algorithms and a lot of tweaks to the cam application..
also i think its a limitation of android 1.6 to support only 5 mp.. but i think sony did not do a good job in adding a 8.1 support to the android 1.6
may be the upcoming 2.1 update solves certain such issues..
chetan
hey..
my friend has a SE satio which comes with a 12MP camera..
i just thought my photos sucked when taken at night because it's dark outside..
but when my friend took the same photos in same setting with her satio, it looked so much better..
i don't think 4MP would make such difference .. would it??
x10 came out after satio.. but i guess they put a crappier camera on x10.. hm..
So what you got Android
Considering most phones don't even break 4MP 8.1MP is quite a good camera for a cell phone. SE has been beastly with cameras in their phones and those 4MP do matter. if you took a picture with a 4MP camera and compared it to a picture taken with the X10, the X10 would look infinitely better.
Phone's rarely do well with lighting because they have fixed focus lenses, it's not practical to have a lense that extends and retracts on a cell phone. Cell phones are getting better and better camera but they will never be able to replace a good professional camera.
As for the decision to give the X10 an 8.1MP camera, it likely had to do with pricing. if SE would have put a 12MP camera in the price would have been much higher.
oh no.. i don't mean "i want a 12MP camera!"
but just i didn't think 'megapixels' made much difference in qualities when taken in dark...
it's just that when i took photos with the satio, we could see ppl's faces and etc.. but with x10 it was really dark, pixelated, and etc....
The Satio also has a xenon flash. I'd expect my C905 to beat out my X10 at night too.
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The Satio also has a xenon flash. I'd expect my C905 to beat out my X10 at night too.
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+1! i loved the flash on my c905! it was awesome - infact sometimes too good. it would light up dust in the air and they would appear on shot
The amount of megapixels have nothing to do with the quality of the colors and how well it does in bad lit scenes. If you limit the amount of layers the light has to pass to get to the converting(light to electricity) layer of the cmos sensor then you get better results in dark settings.
Sony developed a back lit sensor in 2008 (i think). This sensor is lit from the back and the light doesn't have to pass all the layers. The result of this is it catches more light. And then you can take better pictures at night. Not sure if they have implemented it yet into mobile phones.
A xenon flash helps idd. Are the pictures in the dark also better without flash?
The x10's camera can capture colors very well with fine detail, it's not a bad camera.
Satio wins at night hands down (xenon flash ).
I saw images in day light and they were better compared with X10.
Problem with Satio is the software.
At least X10 got firmware updates for bug fixing but Satio is pretty much dead.
4 mp matters when it comes to Cypershot processor and Xenon Flash in Satio
even thought Pixels have nothing to do with quality but only in size of the picture
xperia x10 camera quality lacks
sony Ericsson want to sell his all mobile phones thats why there is no camera quality in x10..company never introduce all rounder phone which has good camera , android 2.1 (at least 2.1) , wifi , gps , 4inch screen , sexy look..
if such phone any company introduce than his other handset will not sold..
its marketing policy...nothing else...
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sony Ericsson want to sell his all mobile phones thats why there is no camera quality in x10..company never introduce all rounder phone which has good camera , android 2.1 (at least 2.1) , wifi , gps , 4inch screen , sexy look..
if such phone any company introduce than his other handset will not sold..
its marketing policy...nothing else...
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What are you talking about? The X10 had the absolute best camera on a smartphone when it was released.
Also, megapixels mean absolutely, positively nothing when it comes to image capture in the dark. In fact, the more megapixels you shove into a tiny sensor, the crappier the image will be. A bigger CMOS sensor will give you a better picture, not more megapixels.
Exactly
Take a look at the pictures posted here : http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=195111&start=210
They are taken with a xperia x10 and they look stunning compared to other phones.
Infinity1988 said:
Exactly
Take a look at the pictures posted here : http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=195111&start=210
They are taken with a xperia x10 and they look stunning compared to other phones.
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Yes, but not compared to Satio
and you can see that in the link you provided
MJ_QaT said:
Yes, but not compared to Satio
and you can see that in the link you provided
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I didn't come across any comparison between the satio and the xperia x10 on that url, maby i overlooked it. But there are people there that switched from the satio to the x10 and are happy with it. That thread is for x10 pictures only.
Besides take a look here : http://www.ephotozine.com/article/Sony-Ericsson-Satio-12471 Those pictures don't look better than the pictures of the x10.
I think the only thing that's better on the satio (besides amount of mp) is the xenon flash.
I would like to see a direct comparison between the satio, c902 and x10.
not only photo taking sux... music oso sux...
SE never improvise the technology of cybershot and walkman to X10...
wat's the point trying to come out a high end phone but lack of all these... sux... even my brother lousy W350i tat have much much nicer music than mine...
shame on SE....
Infinity1988 said:
I didn't come across any comparison between the satio and the xperia x10 on that url, maby i overlooked it. But there are people there that switched from the satio to the x10 and are happy with it. That thread is for x10 pictures only.
Besides take a look here : http://www.ephotozine.com/article/Sony-Ericsson-Satio-12471 Those pictures don't look better than the pictures of the x10.
I think the only thing that's better on the satio (besides amount of mp) is the xenon flash.
I would like to see a direct comparison between the satio, c902 and x10.
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I'm not saying that x10 picture quality is not good, I am happy with it :-D
But I used both cameras and excluding the mp difference satio's photos are better due to cypershot technology. However, using 3rd party applications like vignette in x10 makes its photos much better and more professional ;-)
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
MJ_QaT said:
I'm not saying that x10 picture quality is not good, I am happy with it :-D
But I used both cameras and excluding the mp difference satio's photos are better due to cypershot technology. However, using 3rd party applications like vignette in x10 makes its photos much better and more professional ;-)
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
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I agree on that. The stock camera application uses too much compression. They don't finetune the software of the camera like with the cybershot phones.
Let me just first put it out there that I'm a loyal Sony guy. I've owned the Xperia TL, Xperia ZL, Xperia Z1 and now the Xperia Z3C.
With that said, I knew the Sony cameras took subpar pics, whether in full auto or manual mode, they just look bad. Add low light or indoor to the mix, and you've got what looks like a pic from a 2005 Nokia phone. Sorry, I know we all love our Xperias, but Sony should be ashamed of themselves for doing this, considering that they make awesome DSLRs and point and shoots.
So why am I being a rabble rouser all of a sudden? Well, I just got a Note 4 as my work phone and needless to say, I was blown away by the camera results. The differences are night and day between the two. Sadly, I'm supposed to be carrying my work phone just during work days, but I found myself leaving my Z3C at home and going out with the Note 4 this weekend, and you should see the pics I took.
I don't know if the lens is good but the software is bad on the Sony, but if there is any hope that Lollipop will make it better with RAW, I sure hope Sony takes advantage of it.
I agree. The camera of the Lumia 925 that I had, was much better than the camera's compact Z3.
To be honest, this camera does not please me one bit, outside the fact that it does not have optical image stabilizer.
Check the "post pictures that you have taken with your z3c" or something thread. Also, photos will naturally look better on amoled. Transfer your z3c pictures to Note 4 and then look at them again. Might seem better. I find both cameras great by the way
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I wouldn't say suck. I'd just say average.
If you buy this phone for the camera, you're doing it from the wrong direction.
It'd be like buying this phone for the 'best speakers on the market', when HTC One's are those.
The Z3C phone is the best for compact and power; it's a pocket rocket and that's what it specializes at first and foremost, second being its water proof-dust proof without being some rugged phone.
So why am I being a rabble rouser all of a sudden? Well, I just got a Note 4 as my work phone and needless to say, I was blown away by the camera results. The differences are night and day between the two. Sadly, I'm supposed to be carrying my work phone just during work days, but I found myself leaving my Z3C at home and going out with the Note 4 this weekend, and you should see the pics I took.
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If you're taking around a Note 4, then you're clearly weren't in for the Z3C's compact and pocket rocket in the first place, and you're now choosing the best camera in stead.
Please just tell me that you're comparing pictures on a PC.
Moist said:
Please just tell me that you're comparing pictures on a PC.
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EXACTLY.
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You are comparing a quad HD display to a 720p. You're not comparing the camera performance. Just the display. I'd do the comparison again on a PC
I still don't understand what is wrong with Sony's compact camera ... my compact camera is taking great pictures :laugh:
No, I've been comparing the photos on my thunderbolt display, so no bias toward the Note 4's screen in any way.
And no, I'm not all sold on the Note 4, I still can't live without the compactness of my Z3C.
I will take identical photos from both phones today and post here.
Z3c camera doesn't suck, it's "just" above average.
The only other phone with superior camera that rivals Z3C's performance, size and specs is the iPhone 5s to be honest.
Samsung phones have the best cameras overall, but their devices aren't one-hand friendly.
If you want top notch pictures then you need to buy a decent camera.. For a mobile phone camera it does its job, I have no issues with it.
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pricey2009 said:
If you want top notch pictures then you need to buy a decent camera.. For a mobile phone camera it does its job, I have no issues with it.
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Try Lumia920. I still prefer it.
Compare any Nokia you want against an alpha 6000 (or any dslr or mirrorless camera).
Once you go big lenses and big sensors, you never go back.
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I still don't understand what is wrong with Sony's compact camera ... my compact camera is taking great pictures :laugh:
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I'm curious what's settings are you using?(mode, iso, etc)
Any tip to improve my photos?
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Z3c camera doesn't suck, it's "just" above average.
The only other phone with superior camera that rivals Z3C's performance, size and specs is the iPhone 5s to be honest.
Samsung phones have the best cameras overall, but their devices aren't one-hand friendly.
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Pretty much this.
I see nothing but good things about Samsung's phones, but when they get smaller and remove those physical buttons, I'll consider grabbing one... which may be never since it's their signature.
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I'm curious what's settings are you using?(mode, iso, etc)
Any tip to improve my photos?
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There is no universal recipe for taking good photos. All parameters are heavily dependant on the camera specs.
In my case, I'm taking usable photos even at ISO6400 and, with a size reduction afterwards, I can even go higher (12800).
The aperture is dependant on the lens you are using. A too large aperture will lead to blurry edges and soft images on cheap lenses. A too closed one will generate light fringing leading to artefacts. Then there is the focal length .... again, the lenses are behaving totally different.
It's all coming down to trial and error and understanding the limitations of your equipment.
And coming back on-topic, I would love to have full manual controls over the Z3C's camera (including long exposure and RAW data). That will allow for truly great photos with this tiny camera.
The most terrible thing I am concerned about is "soft skin" effect that seems to be always turned on.
See the discussion here: https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Soft-Skin-effect/td-p/838361/highlight/false/page/4
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There is no universal recipe for taking good photos. All parameters are heavily dependant on the camera specs.
In my case, I'm taking usable photos even at ISO6400 and, with a size reduction afterwards, I can even go higher (12800).
The aperture is dependant on the lens you are using. A too large aperture will lead to blurry edges and soft images on cheap lenses. A too closed one will generate light fringing leading to artefacts. Then there is the focal length .... again, the lenses are behaving totally different.
It's all coming down to trial and error and understanding the limitations of your equipment.
And coming back on-topic, I would love to have full manual controls over the Z3C's camera (including long exposure and RAW data). That will allow for truly great photos with this tiny camera.
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I think, he thought you took the picture of the camera, with your Z3C. And so, was asking what settings you had on your phone to make the picture of the camera look so good compared to his.
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The most terrible thing I am concerned about is "soft skin" effect that seems to be always turned on.
See the discussion here: https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Soft-Skin-effect/td-p/838361/highlight/false/page/4
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Yeah. It's still not fixed in lollipop update.
I just don't understand why they don't fix this bug. It's a simple thing to fix i think, and because of that, front camera isn't useable at all!!
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I think, he thought you took the picture of the camera, with your Z3C. And so, was asking what settings you had on your phone to make the picture of the camera look so good compared to his.
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Actually I took that picture with the z3c just to show what I'm actually using to take photos . The phones camera was on auto but, the camera itself is only part of the picture. There is also framing and there is also light.
BTW, these are a bunch of samples captured today, on manual mode, with z3c running lollipop (for who is interested). In my opinion the quality of the camera is pretty low but still, usable in case of emergency.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B08eVSlv8mIUNnBTcTc5YmlHcVk/view?usp=sharing
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