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I just got AMEO from T mobile which I believe the same as HTC advantage.
despite of being SIM locked by T-mobile, I am experiencing another problem in waking up the device after it goes into sleep mode.
After I left the device idle for few minutes, it turn the whole screen off. (not only the back lit).
I can see the LED for BT/wifi still blinking.
But no matter which button I press, it couldn't be turn on at all.
As final resolve, I have to soft reset the device every time after it sleep!!!
Can some experts here advise me? is it a defective unit? or some other settings are wrong? Do I need to return it to the vendor?
I don't want to keep the device always on by disabling the auto off feature in power setting either.
Does someone have the same problem like me?
Thanks for any advise in advance.
What happens if you put it on the keyboard while "asleep"? Even if it means taking it off there first.
If doing that and pushing the power button fail to turn it on, it's a defective unit.
it's the same problem even i attach it to the keyboard.
a bit funny though, if i press the power button from the side to turn it off. I won't have any problem to turn it on.
but if i leave it to auto off mode, then i can't turn it on until resetting it from the back hole.
can it be improved if I flash to other ROM?
My Ameo does it occasionally - I find that (re)attaching the keyboard tends to bring it out of sleep better than pressing the power button. I get the impression that by pressing the power button, it sometimes gets confused that its still on and tries to turn itself off (even when it is already off). Tends to lead to a reboot every few days though. Waiting (fingers x'd) for WM6 to see if it behaves better.
do you guys have this option
settings>button>lock
try to toggle the checkbox to see if it helps
I'll try it! I found it under Settings/System Tab, 'Key Lock' icon.
I'll report back within the week.
I can confirm that it doesn't help my AMEO.
anyway, thank for your thought.
Digital.Diablo said:
I'll try it! I found it under Settings/System Tab, 'Key Lock' icon.
I'll report back within the week.
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To digital:
can I ask for a favor from you. could you try to make the device auto power off without sim card in.
and see whether u will have the exact problem i have or more frequent it dead...
due to my unit is locked to T mobile network, i still haven't put any sim card in.
Tried it without simcard in but it still turns on ok after the fix. TBH, sounds like you're getting the issue more than me - mine only does it occasionally (once every couple-3days) and as yet, I've not managed to locate a consistent cause. I'll keep my eye on it though with the fix and let you all know how I get on.
the other thing that i can think of out of at the moment is that you are running some prog from the sd card/microdrive in the background so when you try to switch your device on then it does not get started and hence the problem...
try tweaks2k (you can use the trial version)
it has a bunch of settings for this... (just check that it is compatible with ameo first)
install 'screenoff' and assign to one of the button.
it works fine.
have to make work around like this now. no idea why this problem only happen to my AMEO...
anyway, thanks for all of u!
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Does someone have the same problem like me?
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I have a similar problem. My device does not wake up in one case from 10 approximately.
Frequency of occurrence of a problem decreases if to close the phone's program compulsorily.
In other branch to me have told, that the problem can be because of the Active Sink's program. Have allowed advice to disconnect automatic start of this program. But I cannot check up because my program all the same is started if to switch off an option of the automatic device. :-(
hard reset can solve the problem completely. ;-)
I'm pleased to say that the 'button' tweak posted here has worked... So far!
Thanks Gents (and lasses if there are any).
That happened to me too yesterday.
I hard reset it and reinstalled everything to microdrive now. (trying to eliminate the possiblity of compaction thread) Removed SPB Pocket plus, which I've come to be quite suspecious by now. Also removed true VGA. So far I have not got a single freeze yet, touch wood. If it runs okay for a few more weeks with no freezing, will put back true VGA and see how it goes again. Will try to isolate the offending software bit by bit.
Hi,
I've had the same problem with my Advantage
After some weeks of test i have found how to solve the problem on my Advantage. perhaps it's only works on mine but you can try.
i have installed "all" progs on memory and not on microdrive. on microdrive i have only a few exe like wififofum or progs not intend to run when i turn my Athena off.
then no more problem waking up my athena.
I think the problem could be that microdrive cause a time out or thing like this when we wake up the PDA then athena freeze waiting about datas from microdrive.
then for me now it's programs like browsers, sscontact, traylaunchers etc .. => memory
programs like painting tool, etc ... => microdrive and close (kill process) them before sleep mode.
and all is ok now for me. The only freeze in 1 week was Pocket IE freezing (but the reason is pocket IE sucks)
There was actually another point that I forgot to mention concerning the freezing. I found out that the free miniSD card came with the bonus pack was actually faulty. With the pocket mechanic professional benchmark, I managed to see only less than 200kb/s read and write! I did a hard reset, and installed everything on microdrive, and touch wood, I have not got a single reset or freezing yet these two days. I install nothing into memory, as we all know that it takes up to 2 seconds to write a block of data into NOR ROM, which is why we should always shift our directory of IE cookies/history/cache away from the main memory. Since the main memory (NOR ROM) is good for executing program in place but terrible in writing, Microsoft's MikeCal thinks we should not keep any data there. (See this thread: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/03/16/552996.aspx ). I try to keep the memory as free as possible to minimise compaction thread kikcing in. Will see how it goes in the next couple of weeks and take on from there.
I'm happy to confirm that, after a weeks testing, the button 'fix' seems to have resolved the issue! Thanks all.
I have been experiencing similar problems.
After being left on standby for a period of time (>10mins), the unit sometimes goes into "autistic" mode.
i.e:
Power button does not function. Unit GSM light flashes, but will not resume from sleep.
I've tried the following:
Attaching USB cable. No change.
Attaching keyboard. No change.
Calling phone. No change.
Soft reset. Starts ok.
I have now tried:
Settings/System/Key Lock
- set to 'Do not lock buttons'
However, I suspect ActiveSync.
The unit was attempting to Sync every 5 minutes, while connected with a USB cable. I therefore followed advise (read elsewhere) to create a dummy server to allow an ActiveSync schedule to be created, then deleted.
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=246522
This is coincident with the start of the problem.
Regards
Devany said:
I have been experiencing similar problems.
After being left on standby for a period of time (>10mins), the unit sometimes goes into "autistic" mode.
i.e:
Power button does not function. Unit GSM light flashes, but will not resume from sleep.
I've tried the following:
I have now tried:
Settings/System/Key Lock
- set to 'Do not lock buttons'
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I had same problem once I enabled Key Lock function.
However, once I disable key lock, it works fine again.
I'm starting this thread because it's obvious these problems exist, but they don't seem to have been addressed, or at least not in depth.
I upgraded to the Alltel 3.35.671.9 Rom, and have regretted it ever since.
Problems so far:
1. Phone locks for no reason. At first I had not set a password at all, but still got locked out. Removing the battery got around this. So I set a password and phone still locks randomly for no reason. Now the password I set worked for the first 2-3 times, but today it did not work, and i was forced to remove the battery again.
2. Memory Leak coming from nowhere. Occasionally I will bring the phone out of sleep mode, only to find the screen at 10% brightness. When I check memory, there are NO running programs, yet there is a memory allocation bar that shows 0% allocated for storage, and -122 Megs available for running programs. Only a soft-reset fixes this issue. I have disabled X-button completely (as I have heard there is a memory issue with 2.0) but since it came native to this Rom, i cannot Uninstall it.
3. Activesync keeps coming back on, draining my battery. Now I know there used to be a trick to this, but for some reason nothing I have found so far keeps activesync from restarting.
Loaded programs since Clean Upgrade:
1. Magic Button ( don't leave home without it )
2. HTC Home Plugin 2.10
3. HTC Home Customizer
4. Advance Configuration Tool
5. Sprite Backup (need that one)
6. PocketCM
7. Google maps
8. GooSync
blah blah blah..
Anyone have any ideas I'm all ears.
alltel
I have updated mine to the new rom and works perfect
i got it all working including the GPS.
I have had no lock ups, no issues at all.
Screen stays at 100%, sync works fine both in cradle and over the air
Sound is great, alarms work fine
Cant see any issues
I will be updating my daughters tomorrow and will report back if any issues but i have a ton stuff loaded on mine and all is good and she is a basic user so I am sure it iwll all be good on hers to
Ectropian said:
3. Activesync keeps coming back on, draining my battery. Now I know there used to be a trick to this, but for some reason nothing I have found so far keeps activesync from restarting.
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Start > Settings > Phone > Services Tab > Select Time Synchro... > Get Settings... > Uncheck "Time synchro..." > OK
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Start > Settings > Phone > Services Tab > Select Time Synchro... > Get Settings... > Uncheck "Time synchro..." > OK
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Thanks. Althought that doesn't "Seem" to have ANYTHING to do with activesync, I'll take your word for it. I remember with the old rom Activesync would come on after a soft-reset, but close it once and it stayed closed.
As for some of the other issues, I did find out i was using a "hermes" version of HTC Home. After installing the correct version my phone runs MUCH better.
Issues Still Present:
1. I got locked out of my phone TWICE today. I have NOT set a password (Start > Settings > Lock ... "prompt if device is unused for... " is UNchecked.)
2. I have not yet been able to get GPS working with google maps.
--Start > Settings > Phone > Services > Location Settings is set to ON.
What other software can I test GPS with.. I rarely use anything else anyway.
Thanks for the info.
Today's Report:
My phone only locked up on me (by "locked up" I mean 10% screen brightness, unresponsive app apctivation... start menu still works, but no buttons launch. After a few minutes I can activate memory usage only to find out -122Mb allocated with non left for any apps).
I thought it odd tho.. 1st lockup was at 2:15pm 2nd Lockup was at 5:15pm (3 hour coincidence).. I expected the next at 8:15 but it didn't show till 9:00 (or there abouts because I wasn't paying attention.
I DID however notice that it happened today while the phone was charging, but it HAS done this directly out of my holster, so I don't think this is a clue. This seems to be a timing issue with an application somewhere.
Good news! I only got locked out of my phone once!! So I set a password and set it to 24 hours, something that will probably NEVER happen. If I get locked out again.... I'm going to looking for a Kitchen Rom. Can't be much worse.
I'm having a couple off issues with the latest release.
First of all I can't turn Wifi off and keep it off. Everytime I go into the menu to check on it, it's checked, so I uncheck it, and it'll turn off for a minute or two and then all of a sudden turns right back on. This is extremely annoying.
And the other is that it seems like in some apps my touchscreen presses don't keep the phone awake. So I can be interacting with the screen and then all of a sudden it'll go dim. I'll keep pressing on screen buttons and a few seconds later the display will shut off completely. The only way I can jog it back awake in its dimmed state is to move the trackball or press some other hardware button.
Anyone else seen these problems?
LPChris said:
I'm having a couple off issues with the latest release.
First of all I can't turn Wifi off and keep it off. Everytime I go into the menu to check on it, it's checked, so I uncheck it, and it'll turn off for a minute or two and then all of a sudden turns right back on. This is extremely annoying.
And the other is that it seems like in some apps my touchscreen presses don't keep the phone awake. So I can be interacting with the screen and then all of a sudden it'll go dim. I'll keep pressing on screen buttons and a few seconds later the display will shut off completely. The only way I can jog it back awake in its dimmed state is to move the trackball or press some other hardware button.
Anyone else seen these problems?
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I've seen similar issue with the screen staying awake, thought it's just the phone. Also not sure if it's related sometimes I'll click on a button for example, but it will almost not recognize the spot i'm clicking on and click something else on the screen.
These are the same problems I've been seeing on my phone. I imagine it is due to the multitouch hack, but I haven't gotten the motivation to downgrade my phone back to 1.31.
Do you have anything installed like power manager or locale? One of those progams may be turning on wifi.
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Do you have anything installed like power manager or locale? One of those progams may be turning on wifi.
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Nope, I had installed Power Manager once a while back and didn't like how it worked so I uninstalled it. Don't have Locale installed either. I ran the task manager to see what was running and there was nothing that I could tell that would turn the wifi on.
The touch issues are rather widespread amongst 1.41 users. However, don't know what's up with ur wifi. I have a strange issue with my wifi as well though. Whenever I boot up my phone and wifi was enabled when it turned it off. I get 2 not responding errors. Everytime. Its like clockwork. With 3g? Never. It took me about 20 wipes and 10 or so hours to finally figure it out. Hopefully all these problems will be fixed with rc33
I have also noticed that Applications don't check for new updates anymore. even when I go to "My Downloads", It used to show "free" next to any application that has an update or has been uninstalled. Now it shows "Installed" next to all the applications but when I go to the application by category, It shows up as "Free" meaning that there is a new version.
the case in simple points:
1. when I open the Application..... It doesn't detect the update.
2. when I go to "My Downloads" in the market, It doesn't show "Free" next to any application that has an update.
But if I go to the application by category, It shows "Free".
LPChris said:
I'm having a couple off issues with the latest release.
First of all I can't turn Wifi off and keep it off. Everytime I go into the menu to check on it, it's checked, so I uncheck it, and it'll turn off for a minute or two and then all of a sudden turns right back on. This is extremely annoying.
And the other is that it seems like in some apps my touchscreen presses don't keep the phone awake. So I can be interacting with the screen and then all of a sudden it'll go dim. I'll keep pressing on screen buttons and a few seconds later the display will shut off completely. The only way I can jog it back awake in its dimmed state is to move the trackball or press some other hardware button.
Anyone else seen these problems?
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i havnt had a problem with it staying on, i noticed that my phone was dimming to quickly. I know theres probably an adjustment somwhere (i think at least) but i havnt had any problems what so ever with it.
Very strange. I haven't had either problem (wifi or touchscreen). I have noticed that my battery drains more quickly than it used to, but I have been blaming this on the DroidSans autorotate feature always flipping the screen everytime I move the phone (I mess with the phone an awful lot).
Droidsan
I can not get auto rotate on JF RC-33. Does anyone have this problem???
another issue with with this version was that all my ringtones were changed for my contacts and stuff
pretty wierd.
i don't have any problems mentioned ATM.
JF RC30 to RC33
stonefurry said:
I can not get auto rotate on JF RC-33. Does anyone have this problem???
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DroidSans Tweaks checks the version. At the moment it's not going to recognize RC33 as a valid version. Wait for it to be updated.
danguyf said:
DroidSans Tweaks checks the version. At the moment it's not going to recognize RC33 as a valid version. Wait for it to be updated.
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What he said... But don't forget to enable auto rotate in your browser though. You don't need droidsans for that.
guys yesterday i was browsing the net and my HD switched off, im was using Duttys 3.4, i thought there maybe a problem with the rom so i switch to onkologs latest rom now the problem has started all over again! is there some settings or something i can go to to fix it? the phones useless if this keeps happening, its happened again while writing this!
THINK ITS FIXED
go to setings - system - power - advanced
untick "turn off device if not used for"
seems to have worked
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guys yesterday i was browsing the net and my HD switched off, im was using Duttys 3.4, i thought there maybe a problem with the rom so i switch to onkologs latest rom now the problem has started all over again! is there some settings or something i can go to to fix it? the phones useless if this keeps happening, its happened again while writing this!
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When you mean switching off do you mean phone actually turns off and you need to reboot or does the screen just darken and then go black?
If its the latter you will need to go to setiings > all settings > power > and adjust backlight/advanced screen settings.
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When you mean switching off do you mean phone actually turns off and you need to reboot or does the screen just darken and then go black?
If its the latter you will need to go to setiings > all settings > power > and adjust backlight/advanced screen settings.
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it was switching off completely and some times even on boot up
scar88 said:
it was switching off completely and some times even on boot up
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Sorry to state the obvious, but have you checked battery status (i.we. no power in battery)? Or you may have a faulty battery. Try taking battery out and use usb cable plugged into socket (battery does not need to be in for this) to see if phone still switching off when on AC power instead of DC battery. If phone still switches off when on AC you will know its not a battery issue and maybe a rom related or hardware problem.
Let me know so we can narrow this down
batterys currently on 60%, im not sure what it is it only started when i flashed duttys 3.4, was thinking it might be a problem moving from 6.5 back to 6.1, but today flashed onologs 6.5 rom and after a while it started again, ive changed the power options in settings (2nd post) seems to have done the trick for now, wanted to ask though does changing the radios have any significance?
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batterys currently on 60%, im not sure what it is it only started when i flashed duttys 3.4, was thinking it might be a problem moving from 6.5 back to 6.1, but today flashed onologs 6.5 rom and after a while it started again, ive changed the power options in settings (2nd post) seems to have done the trick for now, wanted to ask though does changing the radios have any significance?
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Generally speaking a new version of radio improves signal, reception, gps fix and battery consumption.
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I see you have changed 2nd post. Glad it worked. In future when you modify a post can you put a EDIT so when scanning threads its easier to see when someone has changed something. Thanx
Hi there,
Recently purchased TM Leo and I am on stock ROM 2.13531.1 (90963) WWE.. for last 2 days the cell backlight keeps coming on indicating that some program is running in the background.. causing the battery to drain within 12hrs with little use. Tried flwg to solve the issue:
1] thinkin it cud be due to additionally loaded programs.. tried hard reset and reverted to stock rom but the problem persists. I'd ESET AV, Skype for WM, GPSed, pocket RAR & cleanRAM installed.
Even d cleanRAM Level-2 purge & hard reset has not solved d issue. task manager does not show any programs running.
2] to my understanding some additional process running in d background is causing d issue.. but i dont possess sound knowledge to kill d processes. FYG flwg processes r available to kill thru cleanRAM:
Below list: process name (my understanding.. pls correct, if wrong)
NK (understand its a kernel - cannot be killed)
BTTrayCE (general - shud not cause d issue)
AudioManager_en (not sure)
voicecmd (dont use - can be killed)
AlbumSearcher (dont use - can be killed)
poutlook (required)
SyncManager (general - shud not cause d issue)
imforwarding (dont use - can be killed)
EsetOAMobile (required)
manila (required)
siHome (not sure)
siwatcher (not sure)
tmail (not sure)
BTW.. m in India n using unlocked (code fm T-Mo) Leo on Vodafone india.
Appreciate ur response & help.. its frustrating to charge twice a day..
Lotuk
TM-HD2 bricked (wrong flash)
TM-HD2 unlocked (VF-India)
Asus P320
Many events can trigger the backlight, e.g. sms, email, reminders, alarms, etc. And the settings are all in different places.
Instead of trying to find out what is turning it on, why don't you just change your power settings, e.g. when on battery, dim or standby after 1 minute of no activity. That way, even if it turns on, it will turn off after the inactivity period. You can change the power settings at: Settings|Sound & Display|Backlight
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Many events can trigger the backlight, e.g. sms, email, reminders, alarms, etc. And the settings are all in different places.
Instead of trying to find out what is turning it on, why don't you just change your power settings, e.g. when on battery, dim or standby after 1 minute of no activity. That way, even if it turns on, it will turn off after the inactivity period. You can change the power settings at: Settings|Sound & Display|Backlight
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My backlight settings r at 30s/1min. Understand that.. but it happens way too often.. say avg every 3 mins. besides initially this phenomenon wasn't happening earlier n battery wud last easy for a day with similar use.
thanks thou.
When you did a hard reset and without installing any programs, does this problem occur? If not, then install one program and a time and observe if it happens.
If your HD2 is turning on every 3 minutes then something is definitely wrong.
i use netripper's proximity screen off to disable backlight when not in use. look for it here in xda. the backlight turns on for so many reasons we're not aware of and when one of the hard keys is pressed inadvertently, e.g. even inside the bag or pocket. this app turns it off, thus saving battery, using the proximity screen. i always put my hd2 upside down on the table for example and let this app take care of turning off the screen for me.
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When you did a hard reset and without installing any programs, does this problem occur? If not, then install one program and a time and observe if it happens.
If your HD2 is turning on every 3 minutes then something is definitely wrong.
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thats right d prob has continued after hard reset.. tried installin programs one at a time to find d cause.. but its somethin else!!
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i use netripper's proximity screen off to disable backlight when not in use. look for it here in xda. the backlight turns on for so many reasons we're not aware of and when one of the hard keys is pressed inadvertently, e.g. even inside the bag or pocket. this app turns it off, thus saving battery, using the proximity screen. i always put my hd2 upside down on the table for example and let this app take care of turning off the screen for me.
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appreciate if u can link me to d app.. cudn't locate it.. latest addition is "netripper's" BsB tweaks.. but no change. thanks for d tips
Did you find a fix for this? My tmo hd2 is doing the same thing, screen keeps waking up every 30 sec to a min killing my battery. Im running kumar 2.9. tried reflashing, hard reset, tast 29, flashed new radio, nothing seems to slove this.
This sounds like the "car kit issue" again. Basically the contacts within the USB port corrode and it shorts out 2 pins that are meant to be shorted out with a resistor when the car kit is plugged in, this signals the HD2 to stay turned on, and to usually launch the navipanel, speaker phone enabled by default in calls.
Unfortunately there is no known fix for this you will have to do a warranty swap though t-mobile. I had to swap mine for this very reason about a month and a half ago.
I now keep tape over my USB port to keep debris and moisture out. i am on the lookout for a rubber plug to fit in there. I charge my batteries using a standalone charger, physically swaping out the battery in the phone every morning. Added benefit of the phone getting a reboot in the morning. It also comes in handy because I now have 3 batteries and can bring spares along when i know ill be away from a power source awhile and be using the phone alot.
There is a whole thread about this issue in the normal HD2 forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619859
Thanks for the info. I looked at mine, it looked ok little dirt nothing big. Cleaned it out, but still did it. So I put it back to bone stock, even took off the hspl. That seemed to do the trick, it not waking up by itself any more. The rom I updated must of messed up the hspl some how.
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Did you find a fix for this? My tmo hd2 is doing the same thing, screen keeps waking up every 30 sec to a min killing my battery. Im running kumar 2.9. tried reflashing, hard reset, tast 29, flashed new radio, nothing seems to slove this.
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problem solved after flashing the latest 3.14 rom.. now running stock 3.14 (stock spl) and mattc 1.8 android.. both real smooth with over 24h battery life.
btw.. got my bricked hd2 repaired by JTAG (ORT) n now runnin as gud as new on latest 3.14 rom.