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Dear wizard owners - could you please check how this call recording software works on your device.
http://1800message.com/default.aspx
in the end of that page there is a link for PMRecorder - there is cab file for it.
1) is it working in general?
2) does it record two parties well if used without headset?
3) does it record two parties if bluetooth headset is used?
4) what is quality of recording.
I am thinking to moving from jam to wizard or prophet only becouse of that software.
gluhov: if you're prepared to move phones for this feature, consider the gigabyte phones.
V
please give a link for that phone
gluhov said:
Dear wizard owners - could you please check how this call recording software works on your device.
http://1800message.com/default.aspx
in the end of that page there is a link for PMRecorder - there is cab file for it.
1) is it working in general?
2) does it record two parties well if used without headset?
3) does it record two parties if bluetooth headset is used?
4) what is quality of recording.
I am thinking to moving from jam to wizard or prophet only becouse of that software.
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PMRecorder does work well however you have to have all your conversations in speakerphone mode to pickup the person talking on the other end. The website says this is a limitation by the manufacturer (although not sure if the mean the HTC's, MS or the OEMs)
Cheers
Excellent review of the GigaByte:
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,46925
Not sure if it's available yet, but I wants it!
V
WOW!!
I wants it too - I'm beginning to think the Wiz is a bit of a dead loss anyway
You can't beat an old 6310i as a phone
The Gigabyte phone has got all the functions that the Wiz is missing - and look at that camera !!!
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And the TV I think I'll wait for one as well. I need to upgrade in the next few months. I'm thinking either Atom or Gigabyte. But the Giga looks very very nice software wise. Don't like the styling much.. but the features Would be nice to get a rom dump of that. Oh, I think I've got one somewhere...
V
gluhov: If you are considering the gigabyte for the call recording, on reading the review it looks like it may have the same functionality as PMRecorder. As it says "you can record your own telephone conversations", I would clarification of what is meant by "your own conversations" To me this sounds like one sided recording, although i presume the speaker method would work here as well.
However it is a nicely feature packed device, i wouldnt mind getting my hands on one myself although i think i have gotten used to the Wizards keyboard and (slowish) speed now. I just want my A2DP!!!
Cheers
The recorder in the 'notes' application will happily record both sides as well - the other side will be a bit noisier/fainter, but unless you're recording for criminal evidence, that shouldn't be a problem. ( And keep in mind that many countries have laws prohibiting conversation recording unless you make this explicitly clear to the other side )
As for the Gigabyte - looks nice, specs-wise. However - no Edge? So definitely no UMTS/HSDPA. Not a huge loss, perhaps, but if you're aiming for the future anyway, it might be worth waiting for whatever they'll come out with next?
Guys - lets stop talking about these gygobyte.
PLEASE TEST THAT APLICATION AND ANSWER MY QUESTION - that will really help.
vijay555 said:
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And the TV I think I'll wait for one as well. I need to upgrade in the next few months. I'm thinking either Atom or Gigabyte. But the Giga looks very very nice software wise. Don't like the styling much.. but the features Would be nice to get a rom dump of that. Oh, I think I've got one somewhere...
V
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Gigabyte (Around US$700)and Atom (US$750) already for sales in Hong Kong for a while.
The REAL device of gigabyte is suck I'm sorry to tell you that.
The TV function ONLY support NTSC and which doesn't support PAL as they have mention. And the screen is too small. And there is serveral problem awaiting to fix.
1. Bluetooth A2DP issue. Auto disconnect once the device screen is off.
2. If incoming call pop up, if your didn't recived the call. The "incoming call" screen still there, even the other side already drop the line.
3. When open the function inside the phone. the device Vol will auto turn to silent. even no vibrate.
4.The camera is RED. Outdoor/ Indoor. All photo seems auto in RED tune.
New rom been release in Early Feb. But same problem still found.
And Atom is keep fixing their probelm. They are like haven't more than
one updat per month. And the device now is very smooth today. But I think there must be more update coming very soon.
gluhov said:
Dear wizard owners - could you please check how this call recording software works on your device.
http://1800message.com/default.aspx
in the end of that page there is a link for PMRecorder - there is cab file for it.
1) is it working in general?
2) does it record two parties well if used without headset?
3) does it record two parties if bluetooth headset is used?
4) what is quality of recording.
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Please read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1 for a complete discussion of the subject.
of course i read it.
i just need an answer from real user
it doesn't record incoming audio. you'd have to get a htc typhoon(i think) smartphone device to do this.
Are you tru wizrd owner?
Doesn't work on my Wizard (Vario)
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Are you tru wizrd owner?
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Yes I am. I actually e-mailed the company about this awhile back and heres what they told me.
"Techsupport to me 12/27/05
The Wizard does not support the dual audio path. the HTC Tornado and Cingular 2125 both support it, but the PPC Wizard does not. Sorry about that. It is a hardware limitation on the device.
> i've been playing around with pmvault and pm recorder on an htc wizard
> phone. Vault works flawlessly and is so convenient. Recorder doesn't
> record incoming audio though. My voice can be heard fine, but not the
> person I'm talking to. I know that the wizard devices are pocket pcs and
> not smartphones, but WM5 for ppc is supposed to run programs for both. Any
> thoughts on it?"
hmm.
if you use speacker phohe - will it help to record second part or not?
Becouse on magician if you use it everything is recorded very well.
Nope, it just records my voice. The other's voice is very faint audible when set to speaker mode, but certainly not loud en clear enough to understand.
I have a Wizard and use PMRecorder. Although the other party is faint on a recording it is possible to hear and understand them.
Check Here
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-isecretary-v1-1.html
Hi,
here is the new Version 2.3
wfg
Starbase64
Won't work on a lot of devices. Can't record directly from the radio.
what devices does this work with? does the answerphone work silently by intercepting the audio stream of the call. I though this couldn't be done.
If it can be done. How!! Could have lots of fun with this feature
Has anybody testet this on a TyTn II ?
this software ask me for the netCF.. where can i get NetCF?
Tried the newest version 3 on Trinity and it does not work. It cannot play the outgoing message. I hope they can get this working on Trinity.
Not workin'
It's not workin' on my Universal WM5, i unzipped the folder, double-clicked on .exe file, nothin' happens.
After some testing I can say its working fine on my Hermes.
Recording quality is pretty good and it's customizable.
The call being receveid and recorded can be heard trough inner or outer speaker of the pda.
The pda microphone is switched off excepting for the first seconds while your message is played back to the caller.
I'm using iSecretary 3.0... you can find it here.
N1kko said:
After some testing I can say its working fine on my Hermes.
Recording quality is pretty good and it's customizable.
The call being receveid and recorded can be heard trough inner or outer speaker of the pda.
The pda microphone is switched off excepting for the first seconds while your message is played back to the caller.
I'm using iSecretary 3.0... you can find it here.
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You mean that you can still record with good quality even when not in speakerphone mode, i.e. the software doesn't depend on the microphone picking up the call from the loudspeaker? If that's the case then the developer deserves the Nobel Price! Up until now everyone(?) have thought that this was impossible due to hardware limitations in the Hermes and almost all other PPC phones from HTC.
N1kko said:
After some testing I can say its working fine on my Hermes.
Recording quality is pretty good and it's customizable.
The call being receveid and recorded can be heard trough inner or outer speaker of the pda.
The pda microphone is switched off excepting for the first seconds while your message is played back to the caller.
I'm using iSecretary 3.0... you can find it here.
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I downloaded the version 3 as well, installed the cab. I don't know why the f**k, it ain't workin' on my Universal WM5, even though it mentions clearly in this website, that it's compatible with WM5.
Any suggestions ?
P.S what is Compact FrameWork v2 mentioned on that website ? Is that .NET Framework, anyone with the link ?
Agreed..
abubasim said:
You mean that you can still record with good quality even when not in speakerphone mode, i.e. the software doesn't depend on the microphone picking up the call from the loudspeaker? If that's the case then the developer deserves the Nobel Price! Up until now everyone(?) have thought that this was impossible due to hardware limitations in the Hermes and almost all other PPC phones from HTC.
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I truly agree on that, that is why i really wanna try this application. B'cuz, as far as we know, the hardware of WM phones ain't compatible to record sounds from microphone. Same is the case with Call Recorder.
got it running on the herald without issues.....nice app although I still wish I could get the Answering Machine from the stealth....but like someone said before I thought this could not be done with HTC devices so I'm happy anyway
Does it do as I suspect and just put the call audio to the speakerphone and then record that via the microphone?
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Does it do as I suspect and just put the call audio to the speakerphone and then record that via the microphone?
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yeah, absolutely pal. It's like the answerin' machine in symbian phones. The only difference is that, speakerphone is a compulsion(or a limitation) here, b'cuz of hardware incompatibility.
Adieu..
Hrrrm - thought so.... DO NOT WANT.
WOW is work on my HTC Touch!!! I'm using iSecretary 3.0 is wayyy better then the old vers.........
if they make play message easy i will buy right away!!
I couldnt get iSecretary to work on my Kaiser (Tytn II) i mean it would run but when people would call in they could not hear the voice message.
4.4 wont work on my jasjar
Why I Secretary can’t mute the microphone of my xperia x1 and why the caller can’t hear my answer message
How can I fix this using registry or any tweak tool for windows mobile 6.1
thanks
Looks like a new version came out today:
http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/windowsmobile/
Unfortunately audio still comes out the back speaker. You'd think they'd figure this out by now.
that speaker isn't accessible for regular windows mobile applications. like skype said themselves about this request: they have ask every phone maker to give information on how to access that speaker on all their phone models. it already works for e-ten devices I believe.
you can only hope that they make it happen soon for diamonds
Fring uses the correct speaker.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=2250#comments
That user didn't say what kind of phone he uses, and it doesn't say at all if it works for all WinMo devices.
Let me try it on my Diamond and report back
@edit:
Well what'ya know.. I guess you were right and Skype-devs are not (and so I was not).
Fring can indeed make voice calls (at least to their own voice-call-test-service) through the earpiece on my Touch Diamond.
Interesting
skype on htc hd
adam1890 said:
skype on htc hd
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Please search before you ask a question.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457278&highlight=skype
i've tested skype on my HD with wifi connection with a friend of mine that has skype on his HD
i must say it works JUST PERFECT! xD
skype to my hd work
But I can't get the Skype sound through the ear speaker. It comes from the rear speaker.
Are you guys using a separate version of Skype or a hack, or you guys are using a headset?
You have to use a headset, the sound comes from the rear speaker of the unit.
still no support for video call with skype ?
I would like to use front camera of HD for video call..
like cam.
hmmmz...
It seems it does not support BT headset as well. I do not have HD, but in my PPC the new skype does not work with the BT headset, its either with the rear speaker, or the wired headset.
If im not mistaken i read somewhere in the forum that someone had skype working with this bt headset
Hi guys,
I'm running Skype 2.5 beta on my hd an the chat works fine. But each time I'm trying to make or get a call, Skype crashes and win mobile wants to send an error report...
Does anybody else encounter this problem, or am I the only one??
Any workaround for that problem would be awesome
greetz giniman
giniman said:
Hi guys,
I'm running Skype 2.5 beta on my hd an the chat works fine. But each time I'm trying to make or get a call, Skype crashes and win mobile wants to send an error report...
Does anybody else encounter this problem, or am I the only one??
Any workaround for that problem would be awesome
greetz giniman
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no u are not alone! i have hd too and tried skype new beta and have the same problem! i read that we all should wait that skype publish a newer version! at the moment there is a bug or a failure thats skype software can't work correct with the cpu of the hd and all the other newer pocket pc's.
notice: everyone with a hd can run this beta version but u can't call (i heard that some with english rom could, but i don't believe them).
2. notice: u can't use the speaker on the front side for your ear, because skype has no access to this hardware! (at the moment , but in the future )
MfG Rayzer HD
Rayzer HD said:
no u are not alone! i have hd too and tried skype new beta and have the same problem! i read that we all should wait that skype publish a newer version! at the moment there is a bug or a failure thats skype software can't work correct with the cpu of the hd and all the other newer pocket pc's.
notice: everyone with a hd can run this beta version but u can't call (i heard that some with english rom could, but i don't believe them).
2. notice: u can't use the speaker on the front side for your ear, because skype has no access to this hardware! (at the moment , but in the future )
MfG Rayzer HD
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I can call just fine even over gprs i was able to make a test call (sound does come from rear speaker though) so do believe...
Rayzer HD said:
notice: everyone with a hd can run this beta version but u can't call (i heard that some with english rom could, but i don't believe them).
MfG Rayzer HD
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My WWE HD has Skype 2.5 installed and it has worked great with the official rom and many cooked roms. I had the older Skype installed which also worked fine but the screen was only displaying in VGA.
I'm wondering why everyone makes such a big deal about Skype using the back speaker. All you have to do is turn the phone around and it works the same, am I missing the advantage to using the front speaker?
Not sure if this has been covered here or not but here it is on another forum on xda:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3153030&postcount=61
Start tivi, then run skype. All sound comes from the front speaker, not the back. Make sure to turn off tivi when you're done with skype, as ALL sounds will be rerouted to the front speaker, not just voice calls.
Rayzer HD said:
no u are not alone! i have hd too and tried skype new beta and have the same problem! i read that we all should wait that skype publish a newer version! at the moment there is a bug or a failure thats skype software can't work correct with the cpu of the hd and all the other newer pocket pc's.
notice: everyone with a hd can run this beta version but u can't call (i heard that some with english rom could, but i don't believe them).
2. notice: u can't use the speaker on the front side for your ear, because skype has no access to this hardware! (at the moment , but in the future )
MfG Rayzer HD
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The older version 2.2.0.38 runs fine on my HD and I can make calls with it.
Had the same problem with Skype crashing when making a call with 2.50 so reverted to the older version.
Regards
K_Hismoom
skype problem
Well i have 1.14 rom and i tried to install skype 3 times. instalation is ok but when i click/tap the skype i get error message ... any ideas what do ??
I had a reg tweak somewhere from my kaiser which ported the skype sounds from the external headset to the phone... can i find it now... It was a common problem.
I did see this thread here about AudioSwitch,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469223
worth a read.
Skype on htc hd
Hi all
Ive been doing some searching and found out how to use Skype through the ear piece just like a normal call. Go to www.fring.com and download the application. It realy works great. You can use it through your network provider and also through a wireless connection. Good feature is that it can include other applications such as Yahoo Messenger, MSN and loads more!
Hope this thread was of use....let me know how you get along!
Ze
skype v 3.0 (beta) for windows mobile is out !
the new version for wm (beta) is out !
Can somebody explain why it's not possible to make video calls using skype, whereas with a PC, it's possible.
What's the difference actually ?
Skype 3.0 beta has a bug to call to Italy: it automatically removes the "0" from the city code. If I have to dial a number in Milano I dial +3902xxxxxxxx, but Skype automatically skip the zero so the call can not be completed.
Strangely enough if you dial a contact number, it is dialed correctly.
I wait for the final version.
I am in the process of moving from a TP to a TP2, and am configuring the latter, however (and I have seen this problem elsewhere regarding this phone) I cannot get my bluetooth headset to play nice with MSVC. Specifically the button to initiate the call.
I have tried the steps listed by bengalih and all should work. From what I have read, they are using a different bluetooth stack for the TP2 which is the issue.
So I have a few questions.
1. Has anyone got the headset button to activate MSVC successfully?
2. Is there a way to change the bluetooth stack without changing the ROM
3. will changing the ROM fix this? Any way I can tell which ROMS will have a working bluetooth stack?
I have Vodafone UK branded model.
This is I think the last thing that I need to make the phone 'functional' for my daily use, and so would be really grateful for any advice.
crazyC said:
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1. Has anyone got the headset button to activate MSVC successfully?
2. Is there a way to change the bluetooth stack without changing the ROM
3. will changing the ROM fix this? Any way I can tell which ROMS will have a working bluetooth stack?
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1. Yes, with certain headsets that will allow a verrry loooong press without turning off.
2. I suppose it's theoretically possible, but I do not know for sure.
3. Yes. Some of the cooked roms work fine with MSVC and bluetooth headsets on the TP2.
Could you give examples of the cooked roms that work?
Cheers
C.
any trick or hack we can borrow from "bt-MSVCworking roms" and transplant in stock roms? maybe a skilled dev might try to do something.... PLEASE guys!
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Could you give examples of the cooked roms that work?
Cheers
C.
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NRGs Genesis ROM works for me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553506
Gordon
Flashing now and will confirm experience with my two headsets shortly.
EDIT:
Only had time to test the specific problem identified at the start - both headsets work fine now. Hurrah. I do not know the specifics behind why, or if this will apply to all 6.5 based roms. But for anyone desperately seeking a resolution the headset initiation of MSVC, using the ROM above does fix it. And so far the NRG ROM does seem good.
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Could you give examples of the cooked roms that work?
Cheers
C.
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I currently use EnergyROM version 20090822 (Titanium) with MSVC 1.6.21040.
Thanks to those above for their help.
thank you for the contribution, but for who is keeping stock rom, any possible solution??? I would sell my soul for this...
A "stand alone solution" for Touch Pro2s with an original ROM would be great. Possibly one of the ROM cookers can extract it for us.
Thanks a lot in advance,
Klaus
that would be really appreciated!!!
Got it to work, but...........
Hi I have a TP2 with MSVC installed. I got it to work by editing the regsitry and swapping SDDialer.exe with voicecmd.exe. It works great. I press the button on my bluetooth headset and MSVC is invoked.
The only problem is that the voice commaned that i say has to go through the TP2 microphone not the bluetooth headset microphone. Any one knows how to direct the audio input to the headset microphone???
I am using Miri cooked ROM 23017 with manila v2.5
rgd
Raed
this bluetooth activation is a real bugger!! does the audio from VC go to the device loudspeaker, or BT headset? that would be a beginning, somehow...
any luck with cyberon voice commander yet?
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this bluetooth activation is a real bugger!! ...
any luck with cyberon voice commander yet?
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Well I have the Voda version of the TP2 and I also have a spare to play with (I cracked the screen on my first one and got a new one but they never asked for the old one back - it works fine) so I loaded the EnergyROM from a link elsewhere on this thread on to it. My bluetooth headset does not work with the Cyberon Voice speed dial program which I prefer - although this ROM does alow you to put all sounds through the headset. It worked fine on my old TyTn from Voda. Like you said, this is a real bu**er!
Barry
mmmh I'm becoming more and more obsessed with this. I googled everywhere but found anything... someone reports msvc and cvc as working, someone else not.. but nobody says it's working from BT headset... blame on htc that forgot such an important thing!
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mmmh I'm becoming more and more obsessed with this. I googled everywhere but found anything... someone reports msvc and cvc as working, someone else not.. but nobody says it's working from BT headset... blame on htc that forgot such an important thing!
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It's all true
I understand that on the Telus ROM MSVC works with Bluetooth out the box
MSVC and CVC do work, UNLESS you want to use Bluetooth, when they don't (with stock ROMS in the EU) ;-)
I'm using MSVC on NRGs Genesis ROM and it works from Bluetooth as it should. If I get a Chance I'll install CVC and give it a try and report back.
Gordon
it would be nice if someone can mange to transplant needed files... I like the bluetooth stack on TP2, really better than usual, but this thing needs more attention from HTC and the 3rd party developers.
msvc is 3 years old as of now, no newer versions, same as cvc... too bad, technology evolved a lot it 3 years, and these programs might improve really really much!! especially the recognition algorythm, and functions.
well, I hope the new wm6.5 will bring some BT improvements for TP2 then...do not want to stick with custom roms yet. keeping my fingers crossed!
should you manage to try, let us know about cvc and make a little comparison for us! you lucky! ;-)
cheers
I´m usign Smaberg´s Touch X "HERO" EDITION and VC works just fine.
GordonTGopher said:
I'm using MSVC on NRGs Genesis ROM and it works from Bluetooth as it should. If I get a Chance I'll install CVC and give it a try and report back.
Gordon
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As my touch screen has died I am without a TP2, so I can't do this for the moment
Gordon
I've had this problem sometimes on my VZW CDMA Touch Pro 2. my solution has been to turn off the headset and turn it back on. It seems the problem starts for me when I have the headset on when rebooting the phone. Possibly MSVC doesn't detect the presence of the headset or something to that effect.