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Hello xda-ers!
I have been stalking around, tasting everybody's cooking for a couple of weeks now, and i have got to get something off my chest.
I did search, I do realize that what I am looking for can not be made and that its no one's fault (I might be giving htc a meaningful look right now).
I like a whole lot of roms and chefs here, I really do, but the rom I'm after seems to not exist - one of two options:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
And so I would like to ask of you wizzies, is there light at the end of the tunnel? Are things comming around? How do you see it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
Thank you all so much for all your hard work, you guys are the reason I love smartphones so much, I'm dirt poor but i promise I'll buy you guys a round of beer once I get out of college
Its a matter of time bro. Be batient. A month ago, none of the eclair roms had camera. Now they all do. A month before that none of the eclair roms had N1 voice keyboard. Now they all do. God knows what some of these amazing roms will have and do a month from now. [/good deed for the year]
Love the FAQ sig lol
mnissan said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
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What?
MT3G has 192MB Ram just like Dream but has 512 ROM like Hero.Hero has 288MB RAM.
Macrophage001 said:
Love the FAQ sig lol
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^5 to you bro
mnissan said:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
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1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem
JAguirre1231 said:
1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem
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As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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Well steam out in the right section next time
JAguirre1231 said:
Well steam out in the right section next time
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LOL +2000
"if" you had searched you could have found answers to both of your questions... and maybe posted in the correct section.
maybe that "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look" should be turned into "i actually searched and posted in the Q&A section or the I didn't read before posting..."
No offence but seriously if you would have searched you would have found those 2 answers in almost every thread that had to do with hero or eclair...
mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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I think someone leaked an HTC branded Eclair ROM with the "rosie/sense/whatever," and that's why you see it cooked into a 2.0 ROM.
Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer
shadowch31 said:
Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer
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Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!
Sxyman815 said:
Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!
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iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.
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iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.
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iAlwaysPantyLiners come with wings!
Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...
fiktion said:
Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...
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It went off topic at the same rate the iPad went from wanted to ridiculed. What's so bad about that?
Well back on topic/kinda...
Do we know for sure that htc will release the necessary drivers for video playback/camera? It sounds like some people are positive we'll get them eventually...I switched back to donut because I like being able to watch youtube, but its amazing how far along eclair roms have come, and mad props to NCommander for reverse engineering the camera drivers. Without him we'd still have no camera at this point. But I was just wondering if its confirmed or not that we will indeed get those drivers from htc one day.
Well, T-Mobile is teasing us with an Eclair update for our phones. We shall see.
What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time
Snipe175 said:
What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time
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There's actually one like that, it's called iPhone OS. I suggest you buy an iPhone and try it
I've been using HTC Sense since getting my Evo on launch day and have been loving it. However, I keep hearing about AOSP and how the much-awaited Cyanogen ROM that is in development is using it.
What are some of the key differences between both?!
someone should post a picture comparison of Sense vs AOSP so threads like these will stop being created.
Download and flash evo v9 and find out for yourself.
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Download and flash evo v9 and find out for yourself.
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That does not help very much ...
This question will be asked 4923891x with people posting answers like this. I also have this same question as I have only flashed the Fresh, and Dam rom's.
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That does not help very much ...
This question will be asked 4923891x with people posting answers like this. I also have this same question as I have only flashed the Fresh, and Dam rom's.
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No seriously, take a look for yourself its not that hard....rolls eyes
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That does not help very much ...
This question will be asked 4923891x with people posting answers like this. I also have this same question as I have only flashed the Fresh, and Dam rom's.
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It will happen no matter what..Its not like AOSP is something new. There are countless pics of AOSP on these forums already. Google pic search for AOSP and you will also find many.
You have to use a AOSP ROM to really know how much better then sense it really is. Sure you'll loose some fancy dancy widgets but I have found good replacements for all the ones I used.
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It will happen no matter what..Its not like AOSP is something new. There are countless pics of AOSP on these forums already. Google pic search for AOSP and you will also find many.
You have to use a AOSP ROM to really know how much better then sense it really is. Sure you'll loose some fancy dancy widgets but I have found good replacements for all the ones I used.
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Yeah, I have looked at all the pics, etc ... I will just wait for this AOSP Froyo to be released then I will see first hand
You are correct this will be asked more times than it should, but better answers help sometimes. (and it was not like this was a bad question, vs some that I have seen)
Here are some screen shots, I'll try to add more later.
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Yeah, I have looked at all the pics, etc ... I will just wait for this AOSP Froyo to be released then I will see first hand
You are correct this will be asked more times than it should, but better answers help sometimes. (and it was not like this was a bad question, vs some that I have seen)
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It is a very different feel. I like clean/simple things (I like Apples computers and gadgets, for example) and to me AOSP has a more clean simple feel. I think Sense has a great look to it, but some of the bubbliness is tacky to me. The lock screen and rosie are nice, but most of the apps (calendar, RSS, etc.) and widgets are gaudy to me. I particularly dislike the bubble at the bottom to switch tabs thing, just ugly to me.
I also think there are some big UI mistakes in Sense. Editing a contact is confusing for instance.
However I do like the black notification bar, and I like Bugless Beast's launcher with a black google search bar.
In the end it is a matter of taste. One of the reasons I moved from my iPhone to an Android phone was to have more options in regards to this kind of stuff.
Hi,
Does any one know if there is a Sense-Froyo Rom for Nexus One?
If so is it any good / stable, if not any ideas when?
Cool thanks guys.
Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there
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Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there
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Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future
cymru said:
Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future
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I'd rather post a quick question to people who are dealing with this frequently, than trawl the web, sift through junk and install something which has lots of bugs.
Cheer up, its not all bad.
Thanks for the link.
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.
Without a criteria of what he is looking for other than good and stable it's hard to give a good answer. It's not about e-toughness, it's about searching, putting together an informative post, and reading the forum rules.
'cymru' is 100% correct. All it took was a search and reading comments about what does and does not work, then nandroid backup and try the rom and see if it passes the "good and stable" test.
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you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.
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WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)
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WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)
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I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!
LevitateJay said:
I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!
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Well there are some roms that have ported sense camera, and apps.
I do believe my "The Official" rom has them. It didn't come stock with the sense camera, but I had it installed (easy to do from spare parts, plus I have 720p recording).
The best you can do is look for a rom with those things ported over.
Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing
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Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing
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I might check that out...I tried KingKlick's latest rom and my phone rebooted all night long with it. Lamesauce.
I agree with cymru, its not that hard to click one section over to development and see what's there instead of someone making a new thread everytime, and xda agrees. Not a big a deal yes, just saying I agree
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DMaverick50 said:
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
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Luckily i've been a member for a number of years so don't fall into this category...
If it wasn't for XDA recently attracting many young people that weren't taught at home or school in how to do something for themselves once in a while they wouldn't have to come and anonymously display their e-laziness. Just shut up.
EDIT: THANKS JRBOURQUE ^
Hi guys, if the battle for whos the cleverist is now over, heres some feed back for the advice given.
I've installed, Evils q&d sensefroyo. Been running it for a few days, its cool. A little buggy, a few force closes, high battery use, no bluetooth, but very usable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Again thanks for the input, hope this helps anyone else who was looking for similar info.
Cheers.
I tried kingxclikz and Paul's r23 roms, I must say the first one is very buggy and there are no ways to use it even for 24h(though I think it needs an eclair radio),Paul's rom is way more stable but the lack of Metamorph themes,trackball mods and BT are too important.
He promised to release a new version soon so all we can do is wait and see!
Ughh. No BT on any sense ROM then?
Is anybody even working on bluetooth for Desire roms? I don't think anybody actually is. There are a few people I think might be capable like Paul but he's busy with other things now by the looks of it
The title of the thread is HTC Supersonic:EVO 4G....If people do not like SENSE, why not we create a seperate thread for them? Sense is HTC thing I think.
Sense comes with 4G....Others do not...No matter how hard they try...
Its okay flame it...I am in 4G area and I want ROMs with 4G. Or name one stable non-sense rom with 4G.
Sense haas nothing to do with 4g
Sent from my netarchy_toast, froyo beast of a machine evo!
what the f is your point?
I don't get it.
rukshmani said:
The title of the thread is HTC Supersonic:EVO 4G....If people do not like SENSE, why not we create a seperate thread for them? Sense is HTC thing I think.
Sense comes with 4G....Others do not...No matter how hard they try...
Its okay flame it...I am in 4G area and I want ROMs with 4G. Or name one stable non-sense rom with 4G.
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Couple things here. You spelled Sense wrong in the first word. And why would you post this in DEVELOPMENT?? Yea, its a Sense phone, but people don't want all the clunk. Slows down the phone a lot compared to AOSP, have you even tried AOSP?
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I don't get it.
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+1...3rd graders shouldnt be allowed to post
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The title of the thread is HTC Supersonic:EVO 4G....If people do not like SENSE, why not we create a seperate thread for them? Sense is HTC thing I think.
Sense comes with 4G....Others do not...No matter how hard they try...
Its okay flame it...I am in 4G area and I want ROMs with 4G. Or name one stable non-sense rom with 4G.
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umad? umad?
no one forces you to download non-sense roms, its a preference, just like the car you drive, the brand of cereal you eat, the kind of clothing you choose to wear.
Which AOSP should I try which gives all the ease of SENSE ( Spelled correct I think), with 4G and stability of stock rom? If you can point me to one I would appriciate it.
My point was why not work on making a better SENSE ROM, that windows mobile people used to do.
Sweety no one forces me to download anything, its just that this sections says its for HTC while it seems like its more for AOSP.
ITT: the op has no idea what is going on in the android development section lol
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Which AOSP should I try which gives all the ease of SENSE ( Spelled correct I think), with 4G and stability of stock rom? If you can point me to one I would appriciate it.
My point was why not work on making a better SENSE ROM, that windows mobile people used to do.
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Does your mom know you're on the computer this late?
Shouldn't you be doing your grammar and sentence structure homework?
success100 honey shouldnt should not be "shouldnt" it should be "shouldn't"
yay grammar police! but really, i still dont get the thread
How's the battery life on this rom?
MSmith1 said:
How's the battery life on this rom?
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Pretty bad.
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Sweety no one forces me to download anything, its just that this sections says its for HTC while it seems like its more for AOSP.
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HTC is a corporation that manufactures these phones.
The Evo was made by HTC. The Evo runs Android.
HTC made an interface to place over Android OS (Sense). AOSP is Android OS without the Sense add-on. Both are Android OS.
Now that we cleared that up, the dev forum supports both Sense and AOSP because both use Android OS. What would be the point of two different development forums, one for AOSP and one for Sense? There would be a good reason if it weren't for the fact that in the thread titles you can clearly see AOSP or Sense. Just use control + F.
Spotted this beauty on the latest post section on the xda app and I couldn't help myself. This is utterly brilliant.
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Oh well. I hate Sesnse anyway.
Well I'm not even going to say most of the things that I want to about this thread, but I will say this.............OP: you ask what stable non-Sense ROMs have 4G? I run 2 that I know are stable and have 4G and they are Virus Airborne and Calkulin Evio. AND, they both have Sense features as far as dialer, lockscreen, keyboard, email, etc., just not the Sense launcher. I love using Launcher Pro Plus instead of Sense anyway, but prefer Sense for the other things so these ROMs are perfect for me as they are a mix. Also, these ROMs have .zips so you can make it all AOSP if you want...the choice is yours. So, search the forums for a change, and try out some ROMs before starting a thread ranting about stuff that you dont know about.....peace
You have an HTC Evo Shift? You rooted it and put a custom OS on it?
Awesome.
First timer right her who wants to ask your preference, the only thing I have to have is the ability to tunnel my internet to project a free hotspot. That is available in CM7, so far I am leaning towards a nightly build... But essentially since I have not done this before, I don't know the best, I'm sure no one knows the "best"...BUT I would very much like to know your favorite considering that is my main concern
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You have an HTC Evo Shift? You rooted it and put a custom OS on it?
Awesome.
First timer right her who wants to ask your preference, the only thing I have to have is the ability to tunnel my internet to project a free hotspot. That is available in CM7, so far I am leaning towards a nightly build... But essentially since I have not done this before, I don't know the best, I'm sure no one knows the "best"...BUT I would very much like to know your favorite considering that is my main concern
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Its all up to preference brutha. Try them all out.
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I really like Sense Roms, especially sense 3.0. I was rocking a stock, rooted rom, but got tired of HTC dragging their feet releasing the source code for the Shift. I flashed CM 7.1 stable, with Scary Ghoul 3 kernel, running at 1.5 gHz. But, if HTC already had source code for the gingerbread release, I'd still be on a sense rom.
Created a whole thread about this. Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262313
If you like Sense then it's gotta be Supreme Sense. Real nice ROM with lots of bells and whistles and a very nice camera app.
Me personally, I prefer CM7. I want raw performance and the maximum amount of customizability and CM7 offers all that more than any other ROM.
@Vico
The thread you specified was...
[INFO] Cyanogenmod 7 optimal settings for Evo Shift 4G on SPRINT (Updated 10-7-11)
Which is not what I'm looking for, I happened to say I was looking into CM7, but would be open to another OperatingSystem all together. CM7 does good work, but honestly they are the only ones I know about. So I would be narrowminded to assume the only one I know about would be the best choice. Since alot of people on this forum have done alot to their phones their input on a recommended OS will be followed.
Well I'm sure you know it depends on your usage, and preferences. I'm a Sense kind of guy. If your looking for a sort of stock Rom with a lot of extras that's quick, than MikShifted G v1.75 is a great choice. Stable, Reliable, and Fast. If your looking for something a little more over the top that's still stable, reliable, and fast. Than Supreme Sense is it, eye candy plus.
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@Vico
The thread you specified was...
[INFO] Cyanogenmod 7 optimal settings for Evo Shift 4G on SPRINT (Updated 10-7-11)
Which is not what I'm looking for, I happened to say I was looking into CM7, but would be open to another OperatingSystem all together. CM7 does good work, but honestly they are the only ones I know about. So I would be narrowminded to assume the only one I know about would be the best choice. Since alot of people on this forum have done alot to their phones their input on a recommended OS will be followed.
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It's either CM7 or Sense.
Pick one. If you pick CM7 take a look at my thread.
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It's either CM7 or Sense.
Pick one. If you pick CM7 take a look at my thread.
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Don't discount MIUI.. there are a lot of people into it for one reason or another. Myself being one of them. Someone new to flashing roms might find it's exactly what they're looking for.
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Don't discount MIUI.. there are a lot of people into it for one reason or another. Myself being one of them. Someone new to flashing roms might find it's exactly what they're looking for.
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I really like MIUI. I just wish it had 4G
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Don't discount MIUI.. there are a lot of people into it for one reason or another. Myself being one of them. Someone new to flashing roms might find it's exactly what they're looking for.
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You mean that ROM that looks exactly like an iPhone? Never heard of it.
VICODAN said:
You mean that ROM that looks exactly like an iPhone? Never heard of it.
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Launcher pro ex had an ios extreme iPhone theme
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nativ73 said:
Don't discount MIUI.. there are a lot of people into it for one reason or another. Myself being one of them. Someone new to flashing roms might find it's exactly what they're looking for.
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True. MIUI is not for me but everyone should flash it at least once.
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True. MIUI is not for me but everyone should flash it at least once.
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Agreed especially if you upgraded from a hero lol
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You mean that ROM that looks exactly like an iPhone? Never heard of it.
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For never hearing of it you sure seem to know what it looks like .
Lol messin with ya.
I like MIUI alot , yes it has the iphonesque feel but there's a lot of added features, and absolutley amazing I mean OUTSTANDING theme support lol. (Coming from a themer here )
Sent from my Supreme Shift on Wires!
I think miui is pretty cook because you can literally change everything! A ton of themes and icon packs. Just so many ways to customize. But I live supreme. I just can't leave it!
I flashed miui just to flah it and I haven't flashed another rom since... love the ui straight and to the point, lots of themes is def a plus... I have no 4g so don't miss it at all...
Sent from my speedy miui w/1.9 of goodness!!
@Vico I've read alot of your threads, you do good work, this weekend im going to give it a try again trying to root and reprogram my shift...
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@Vico I've read alot of your threads, you do good work, this weekend im going to give it a try again trying to root and reprogram my shift...
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Thanks vee1287. You should join us in the chatroom.
I guess I'll go looking for it after attempting and hboot downgrade again. I dont want to talk about it here though, It would technically be off topic. bah.