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Skyfire - A Must Have Browser

Hi, Have probably missed it, but have not seen any mention of Skyfire on these forums. I came across it by accident and it is brilliant!!!
Have been very dissapointed with the lack of real web experience with IE & Opera due their lack of support with Flash etc - well Skyfire delivers on all counts....from BBC iplayer to adult webcams, it does the lot lol.
Its free and you can get it here http://www.skyfire.com/
By the way, Im nothing to do with them, just a new and very happy user wanting to share.

LIAR! STOP TRYIN TO GET US TO BUY UR LOWSY PRODUCT...
i tried it, wasn't it impressed tho. i'll stick with opera for now. thx for the share tho

A must have is Opera Mini 5.
Skyfire sucks compared, maybe I'm wrong but I don't really care:
Opera are the kings and even if some browsers are still beta, they beat everything.
Sorry...

I have beem using it since its earliest alfa and most of the users here have it installed. It has nice capabilities, but extremely frustrating interface and behaviour. The sharpness of the displayed items leaves a lot to be desired as well.
I use it primarily to watch youtube videos when I don't want to turn CorePlayer on and for checking out trailers.
Opera is still better overall.
P.S. Opera Mini = worst browser ever, even worse than IE.

orelsi said:
P.S. Opera Mini = worst browser ever, even worse than IE.
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Hahahaha!
That's hilarious!

doministry said:
Hahahaha!
That's hilarious!
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!suoiralih s'thaT
!ahahahaH

Opera Mini 5 kicks ass.
The only advantage of Skyfire is it's flash capabilities, the rest is deep crap.

orelsi said:
!suoiralih s'thaT
!ahahahaH
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Don't eat yellow snow.

Maybe opera lacks of flash capabilities but is there someone who can gave me a link which does not work properly in opera because of flash?

doministry said:
Don't eat yellow snow.
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Skyfire renders all on server and sends only picture of the result. That's why it uses low resolution only. In high res the amount of data transferred would be bigger than anything else, and speed would go down too. So skyfire does not have a bright future ahead I'm afraid, as resolution of devices goes up.
I use Opera mini too. It's not great, but it works, and I don't have full data plan.
Opera Turbo in Opera mobile looks promising too.

Skyfire is great for flash and plugins, but qualitity of rendered pages is awful. I rather use opera mobile and youtube app for youtube.
Opera mini is also great browser. I use it when im on data plan due to its very small data consumption.
Opera mini 5 looks great but it kinda lost feel of light browser.

matejdro said:
Skyfire is great for flash and plugins, but qualitity of rendered pages is awful. I rather use opera mobile and youtube app for youtube.
Opera mini is also great browser. I use it when im on data plan due to its very small data consumption.
Opera mini 5 looks great but it kinda lost feel of light browser.
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But it's amazing.
The speed it blazing fast. The look is high tech.

Skyfire looks like garbage on high res devices (it is only optimized for QVGA). Even worse than Opera Mini. If you want flash get opera mobile and flash addon.
If you want fast browser upgrade it to 9.7 w/ turbo or use opera mini. I think skyfire is a total waste of memory.
They says "It renders server side" like I care. I care that it is faster, but it is not faster than Opera Mini or 9.7 (both of which compress via their servers) and Skyfire looks and feels terrible to use.
I want someone to tell me why these threads keep popping up about an old browser that everyone knows about. I mean there isn't a new version that makes this somehow relevant.
I have a browser I want everyone to try, its PIE. It's also old and irrelevant and a total waste of time.

I use CorePlayer for YouTube videos. The quality is superb and the playback is flawless.

The best browser hands down was Mach 5. It's unfortunate it was just a demo and only runs on a Japanese server

The problem with Skyfire is that it isn't really "great" at anything...
-General navigation speed, Opera Mini is far faster as far as server-side rendering browsers go.
-Video/image quality is quite bad compared to youtube app, etc.
-A lot of "can't connect to server" errors if you are in low signal areas, which interrupt your browsing experience a lot.
-Selecting items and fields seems slower than most other browsers.

So let me get this right.....
When i posted this thread it was to make people like me aware of Skyfire because I have only seen one passing mention of it on this site.
I wasnt suggesting for a moment that people ditch all other browsers in favour of Skyfire....just that they add it to their armoury.
The main reason I am delighted with it was its ability to play full flash content such as the full BBC iplayer site, not the poor relation, the mobile iplayer site.
I will freely admit that I am not that experienced in the world of mobile apps etc so I may well be overlooking the obvious - are people here telling me there are other browsers like Opera capable of this? If so, I would ditch Skyfire straight away!!
Help would be appreciated.

a500 resolution??

I'm new to the tablet scene and I'm really starting to love this one alot, Although I never had anything to compare it with. One thing I am noticing though is the resolution seems a bit lacking. Is this a setting or some tweak i can fix this with or thats just how it is. I tried searching but searc is down right now. Any feedback would be great, Thanks!!

It's 1280x800, same as all the 10.1" tablets released recently. What do you feel is lacking about it?

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It's 1280x800, same as all the 10.1" tablets released recently. What do you feel is lacking about it?
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it just seems a slight pixelized, images that are super clea on my phone or pc arent as crisp on my tablet . ill try and see what comes up in a screenshot.

steal25 said:
it just seems a slight pixelized, images that are super clea on my phone or pc arent as crisp on my tablet . ill try and see what comes up in a screenshot.
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Are you seeing that on a phone app? If so, the tablet will often rescale such apps, which pixellates their graphics. Try on an app designed for tablets, or an image.

I think, maybe, the OP is referring to panels pixel density.

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I think, maybe, the OP is referring to panels pixel density.
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basically just photos and the net, or for example XDA on the net(not the app) the avatars are a little pixelated, just slightly nothing major, but im just wondering if thats how it is or should i try and exchange it?

steal25 said:
basically just photos and the net, or for example XDA on the net(not the app) the avatars are a little pixelated, just slightly nothing major, but im just wondering if thats how it is or should i try and exchange it?
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They look fine on mine, are you using the stock browser? If you're using Firefox, don't bother. Its renderer is garbage.

FloatingFatMan said:
They look fine on mine, are you using the stock browser? If you're using Firefox, don't bother. Its renderer is garbage.
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yep thats what im using, besides the stock browser is there anything you recommend?

Been real happy with Dolphin HD as a browser. I really love Firefox but what it does on the tablet to images just is no good.

PC PaiN said:
Been real happy with Dolphin HD as a browser. I really love Firefox but what it does on the tablet to images just is no good.
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Ill have to check out dolphin and see how that works out, i use firefox on everything,it is a shame what it does to images though. Im on the stock browser now and everything is much clearer.

steal25 said:
Ill have to check out dolphin and see how that works out, i use firefox on everything,it is a shame what it does to images though. Im on the stock browser now and everything is much clearer.
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I've tried them all, and to be completely honest, I always go back to the stock browser. Opera Mobile is quite good (not mini), but I don't like the way it does a few things.
Firefox is truly terrible on mobiles, they really managed to completely screw up image rendering on it.

FloatingFatMan said:
I've tried them all, and to be completely honest, I always go back to the stock browser. Opera Mobile is quite good (not mini), but I don't like the way it does a few things.
Firefox is truly terrible on mobiles, they really managed to completely screw up image rendering on it.
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Seconded - i have tried them all and I always return to the stock browser. Have yet to find a web page I frequent that stock browser does not work great for.

FloatingFatMan said:
I've tried them all, and to be completely honest, I always go back to the stock browser. Opera Mobile is quite good (not mini), but I don't like the way it does a few things.
Firefox is truly terrible on mobiles, they really managed to completely screw up image rendering on it.
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+1 here too: the stock browser simply seems to work the best out of all the various browsers available. I would like to use Firefox, but I seriously hate how it screws up images on a device designed with viewing images in mind!
Besides, I quite like the bookmarks widget on my desktop and Firefox doesn't offer such.

On stock browser here as well - I've never tried any other.
QuickPic has also been the ideal image viewer for me - the stock image viewer isn't all that hot and shows a lot of compression artifacts and pixelation.

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+1 here too: the stock browser simply seems to work the best out of all the various browsers available. I would like to use Firefox, but I seriously hate how it screws up images on a device designed with viewing images in mind!
Besides, I quite like the bookmarks widget on my desktop and Firefox doesn't offer such.
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Can't you set those bookmarks to open in Firefox or whatever browser you want?

lord_voldemort666 said:
Can't you set those bookmarks to open in Firefox or whatever browser you want?
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Yes, but it would only open the bookmarks I've made in the stock browser, the widget wouldn't show any bookmarks I make in Firefox itself. That kind of defeats the whole idea.

I too agree after installing all browsers the stock browser is best overall.I like Oprah for its speed seems to load pages much faster but that tab in the top left corner is not so user friendly to get to things.well for me anyway. I have not tried any of them since 3.1 update.well other then stock
As far as resolution no issues here at all.most stuff on web and produced for web graphics.will not be without pixilation to some degree

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I like Oprah for its speed
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She's fast, true enough, but I wouldn't want her on MY tablet!

WereCatf said:
She's fast, true enough, but I wouldn't want her on MY tablet!
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Lololol
My thoughts exactly!

WereCatf said:
She's fast, true enough, but I wouldn't want her on MY tablet!
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Lmao seconded.

Three-way ROM comparison - Transformer

All,
I've been trying to decide what rom to use on my transformer, so I took a look at the three roms: Revolver 3.2.1, Revolution HD 1.2.2, and Prime 1.9.
I used the basic information in each of their threads, and looked back through each of their change logs to get the data for this spreadsheet.
Take a look, and if changes need to be made, let me know.
Asus Transformer ROM Comparison (Google Docs)

Thanks for doing this! Been wanting to update, but not sure which to go with.
Googledocs is blocked at my work, but I'll definitely be looking at this tonight.

dangerflakes said:
Thanks for doing this! Been wanting to update, but not sure which to go with.
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That's exactly why I gathered the info. It's kind of difficult to assess which ROM is better based on screenshots and manually switching between threads. I'm currently running Revolution, but based on what I've found, Prime may be the way to go.

Are you sure that Revolver 3.5 isn't adfree? Looking at the hosts file you can notice quite a lot addresses being redirected to localhost

Revolver is adfree..
Revolver has an option to automatic battery calibration and mobile data in his Revolver Parts app!

Revolution was updated

Prime too
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Revolution is going to join prime and revolver on the new base soon maybe another comparison on the first version of all 3 on the new base would be best ?
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No offense to the op but the comparison is useless without actual long term experience with the roms. Revolver is way more stable and smoother than the other two. I dont care what the spec sheets say. I care more for experience and practicality.

I honestly can't tell the difference between prime and revolver on stability. I switch between them after a couples of testing when they release a new one. Gave up on revolution long ago. They are all based of the same asus rom so unless the dev does something really bad then there will not be much different except for looks.

I did more than just test. Ive benen using them in practical situations. I know they all are based on stock but revolver is way smoother.

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I did more than just test. Ive benen using them in practical situations. I know they all are based on stock but revolver is way smoother.
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Is that not what testing is?

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Is that not what testing is?
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I think he means instead of benchmarking and stability tests etc he actually uses them in everyday situations where faults and bugs are prone to show.
Atleast i think thats what he meant there both a way of testing but i guess he feels one is better than the other?
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ive stuck with Revolver aswell. the Revolver parts is a nice addition and the extra support with the otas.
Prime was similar in running so it was just the extras on Revolver that swayed me.
If anyone of them could fix the browser bugs (blocky page loads in particular) then it would put them clear of the rest. I know Opera doesnt do it but its way to slow to load. Not any of the devs faults but its frustrating.

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ive stuck with Revolver aswell. the Revolver parts is a nice addition and the extra support with the otas.
Prime was similar in running so it was just the extras on Revolver that swayed me.
If anyone of them could fix the browser bugs (blocky page loads in particular) then it would put them clear of the rest. I know Opera doesnt do it but its way to slow to load. Not any of the devs faults but its frustrating.
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Opera first load all the data of the site, after that it displays it. That`s why it is behaving slow. Stock browser loads the data while you are viewing it, that are the blocks you are talking about. So, it is not a bug, Opera is not slower than stock browser, it is behaving an other way.

Its not a bug, it's a feature

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Is that not what testing is?
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Benchmarking, stability tests, etc. tells you nothing about how the rom will act in practical situations in everyday life. This is why I generally don't do these tests. I would flash a rom and then use it for a couple weeks, sometimes trying to push it to its limits.
Revolver really is much more stable and runs smoother than the other two roms. In fact, opera seems to be behaving in revolver while it would stop logging me in in the other two roms.
Like I said, I don't care about the list of features comparing the 3 roms. And I don't care about benchmark and stability test results. I care about how the rom acts in everyday situation.
These test results and feature comparisons are little better than those unboxing videos. You can't know a product's full potential after spending 2 minutes with it right after you unbox it. That's for ipad 2 users, where you have to lower your IQ by 50 points to use.
What's worse, I've seen unboxing videos where people actually conclude whether a product is good or bad based on a mere 5 minutes "test runs" with the product. Take most of the reviews by tech websites of the transformer, for example. Almost all of them go through their reviews completely ignoring the huge advantage of having the OPTION to turn your tablet into a notebook for productivity. In at least one review, I ever saw the reviewer say "since the ipad 2 doesn't have a keyboard dock, it's not fair to include the transformer keyboard dock in the review..."
Anyway, the point is in order to really know how good a rom is, just flash it and use it for a week or so. These benchmarks and stability tests are almost useless.
Edit.
But then again, since most people think a "public option" means slavery of the American populace, it doesn't surprise me that most people would see the keyboard dock OPTION as asus' way of enslaving the world population. Probably why they keep ignoring the keyboard dock of the TF.

I've used both Revolver and Prime, but I think I actually crashed more in Revolver... granted, that was like Revolver 2.something, but I think Prime is more stable. However, I do like the Revolver OTA update a lot, and I'm probably gonna flash Revolver once I get my new usd card. Prime is working great, though, so I'm not sure if I really wanna go through the trouble.. haha. If only there was one clear winner! Damn the many options!

nice comparison.. just a question, what does Ad-free mean? Do the Prime or Revolver Roms show some kind of Ad?
About bloatware.. what's exactly treated as bloatware? For example, I don't want most of Asus apps, but the mail client or the note taking app included in the latest update are quite nice apps, also the asus mail widget.
I may try it myself, I know... I really wish my B80 was rootable Hope to have it soon.

Stock untouched ROMs have Ad's
These don't - and there is a program called Ad-Free you can use on a Rooted Stock ROM
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I've read this thread and decided to go for Revolver based on the comments - so far a nice quick smooth bug free ROM
I used to flash custom Windows Mobile ROMs a while back and found every single one had something broken on it and ended up back on stock -but that was porting 6.5 onto 6.1 Mobiles so ...
Although I am liking this ROM and have found no faults, something makes me want 100% stock TF again
I think maybe because it is still brand new..

Adobe Flash no longer developed for mobile platforms

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/ex...lash-refocuses-efforts-on-html5-updated/19226
I don't know what this means for the future but one main advantage Android 2.2 & higher always had over IOS was full Adobe Flash player. Videos, games & more. Listening to the radio I always hear "you can listen to our station online by downloading our app from Itunes"...Or I can just use Android 2.2 or higher, go right to their website and stream it to my phone just as I would on my PC, no app needed.
Hopefully this means more sites will adopt HTML5 and Adobe Flash will go the way of Realplayer.

Oh well....flash never ran good on android phones. I have seen most gingerbread phones with dual core processors still struggling with heavy flash loaded web pages (galaxy S2 seems the only exception). My question is does android support HTML5, which seems to be the future?

guess Jobs was right. stupid dead bastard and his legion of super fans. ifanboys never gonna let anyone live this one down, ****

The stock browser is the problem, well at least in my experience.
When I need to use flash I just use the opera mobile which is the smoothest browser for Android.
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rakeshchn said:
Oh well....flash never ran good on android phones. I have seen most gingerbread phones with dual core processors still struggling with heavy flash loaded web pages (galaxy S2 seems the only exception). My question is does android support HTML5, which seems to be the future?
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I agree it isn't PERFECT, but with the recent release of Flash 11 for Android I was hoping future Android phones would improve so that Flash ran as smoothly as on my PC. It was nice showing all the fangirls how I could listen to streaming radio stations and watch videos and sports highlights exactly as they appear on a PC. Meanwhile they are scratching their heads wondering how come all they ever get is mobile websites on their jesus phone. Guess they need an app for that.
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The stock browser is the problem, well at least in my experience.
When I need to use flash I just use the opera mobile which is the smoothest browser for Android.
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If by Flash you mean ads, yes, Flash ads work beautifully in Opera Mobile 11. Any other Flash content (videos, games, streaming) doesn't work in Opera. Stock browser in Froyo handles full Flash content the fastest.

Phrack said:
If by Flash you mean ads, yes, Flash ads work beautifully in Opera Mobile 11. Any other Flash content (videos, games, streaming) doesn't work in Opera. Stock browser in Froyo handles full Flash content the fastest.
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I'm not talking about ads. I'm talking about streaming videos, and it does work. I don't know about games, I think it will be hard playing flash based games on a mobile phone.
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iynfynity said:
The stock browser is the problem, well at least in my experience.
When I need to use flash I just use the opera mobile which is the smoothest browser for Android.
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+1 to that, but instead of OPERA, i prefer miui's stock browser or Dolphin HD.
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I agree it isn't PERFECT, but with the recent release of Flash 11 for Android I was hoping future Android phones would improve so that Flash ran as smoothly as on my PC. It was nice showing all the fangirls how I could listen to streaming radio stations and watch videos and sports highlights exactly as they appear on a PC. Meanwhile they are scratching their heads wondering how come all they ever get is mobile websites on their jesus phone. Guess they need an app for that.
If by Flash you mean ads, yes, Flash ads work beautifully in Opera Mobile 11. Any other Flash content (videos, games, streaming) doesn't work in Opera. Stock browser in Froyo handles full Flash content the fastest.
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Ads? what the hell? I block all the ads that I can, i haven't seen a single ad in about a year on my phone/computer.
Using MIUI browser/Dolphin, and as for the fact, opera, flash videos work without lag, perfectly. maybe its you doing something differently? Also for me, flash hasn't been dependent on which firmware i'm on, i've used 2.1,2.2, and currently on 2.3 and it's always been smooth.

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Also for me, flash hasn't been dependent on which firmware i'm on, i've used 2.1,2.2, and currently on 2.3 and it's always been smooth.
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No he wasn't IMO. Considering Flash was somewhat doomed anyway (not just on mobile devices), I blame Adobe for not having the balls to break backwards compatibility (i.e. (throwing a hail mary pass) with earlier flash versions. Had they done this and then turned on HW Acceleration by default in recent versions (instead of leaving it for developers to do - if they even knew it was available / posssible) Flash would likely performed much better across the board. The sites broken by the backward compatibility changes would either wither and die (good riddance) or be fixed thus improvement the state of Flash for all involved. At least, that's how I think it could have gone. Instead it would seem Flash will slip into further irrelevance (I don't expect it to die any time soon) due to Adobe's cowardice.

Flash has always been terrible on mobiles. Flash Lite was perfect. Full Flash is a travesty. Its novelty wore.off very fast for me. I'm just pissed that now I have to deal with no flash instead of gimped flash.
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apple iphone sucks and they ruin everything as always smdh, i rather have it but guess thats one less thing i can say my phone doesn't had
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Truthfully I don't think it's THAT big a deal. You can still access Web content with Android 2.2 or higher that Iphone users can't (I can go to FOX.COM and watch Family Guy, sorry Iphone, you can't do that). Adobe has stated that they will be focusing on games and Adobe AIR. Maybe more and more websites will stop using flash for streaming and use HTML5 instead eliminating the need for flash altogther.
As others have stated Flash for mobes is a resource hog and therefore it's not something I use extensively on my phone. I find myself browsing mobile versions of websites 90% of the time because they load much, much faster. I just like having the OPTION of switching from mobile to full desktop version because sometimes mobile websites are missing content that's available on desktop versions.
I also like not having to depend on proxy browsers such as Bolt or Skyfire which were unreliable when I had my Windows Mobile phone.
I guess the questions are:
1. Will future version of Android stop including Adobe Flash Player?
2. Will websites eventually start switching over to HTML5 and dump Flash? I think this is the likely scenario but it'll probably take years.
N8ter said:
Flash has always been terrible on mobiles. Flash Lite was perfect. Full Flash is a travesty. Its novelty wore.off very fast for me. I'm just pissed that now I have to deal with no flash instead of gimped flash.
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Flash lite is perfect...if you love viewing ads, that's all it's good for. You won't get videos or games to work. I had flash lite on Windows Mobile 6 and Android 2.1 so I know.

That was an old version of flash lite. It gets updated to support later versions of flash video. I could view a ron of videos on my vibrant before the Froyo update. Not only does flash hog resources and battery, it also destroys browser performance.
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New ICS ROM users, please post RAM usage screenshots!!!

which is the least memory consuming? Can anyone who has flashed a ICS ROM post a Screenshot of their mem currently used in Settings? Or with any app...
Of course post the ROM you are currently running as well.
Also what you feel are the PROs and CONs of your chosen ICS ROM.
Any other information you feel is relivant is welcomed.
Thanks button please if you enjoy this thread.

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Running lightspeed beta 3. Love it zero issues whatsoever.
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THANK YOU!!! for the reply!!! Hopefully we can get many more! I am wanting to flash tonight or tomorrow and I really am set on trying the lightest speediest rom.

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I am running tabooney. Vachs rom.
Version 3.01
With all the patches. And. Acer ring

erica_renee said:
I am running tabooney. Vachs rom.
Version 3.01
With all the patches. And. Acer ring
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very nice... can someone top this? how is ring running? smooth? do you have face rec screenlock?

I'm running Lightspeed_4 (beta6)
It's absolutely smooth. I'm in love with ICS so far.

Belda said:
I'm running Lightspeed_4 (beta6)
It's absolutely smooth. I'm in love with ICS so far.
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Me too +1 here, its super fast, faster than ipad2 , and has whole lot of fun features now hope to see a stable version to play all the games

Here's mine just as a point of comparison. I'm running Thor's v96.

I have the face lock settings. But i am NOT using it. I set it up the flashed the acer ring. I like the lock screen ring over the face lock.. I hardly ever lock my tablet. I Think for the most part ics is great. the browsers are much lacking CHROME Will often end up dead at a black screen with more then a few tabs open with text tearing. Stock browers has artifacts and some tearing with the same text issues as chrome.. I think the issue is that acer does not have hardware acceleration tweaked correctly. if at all for applications. it seems the browsers are lagging not the os. as in the past it seemed to me it was android.

erica_renee said:
I have the face lock settings. But i am NOT using it. I set it up the flashed the acer ring. I like the lock screen ring over the face lock.. I hardly ever lock my tablet. I Think for the most part ics is great. the browsers are much lacking CHROME Will often end up dead at a black screen with more then a few tabs open with text tearing. Stock browers has artifacts and some tearing with the same text issues as chrome.. I think the issue is that acer does not have hardware acceleration tweaked correctly. if at all for applications. it seems the browsers are lagging not the os. as in the past it seemed to me it was android.
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Hey Erica, I swear that I remember reading somewhere that Chrome and ICS are not the best of friends. Google is working on making their browser more ICS friendly but it's not there yet.

FireMedicDave said:
Hey Erica, I swear that I remember reading somewhere that Chrome and ICS are not the best of friends. Google is working on making their browser more ICS friendly but it's not there yet.
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I think I remember reading that chrome only works on ics....

You are both correct. it only works. WELL KINDA WORKS.. do not get me wrong ITS MAD FAST Compared to stock honeycomb browser. But for me it seems to give me a black screen just at the MOST WRONG TIME EVER. GRRRRRRR. yes frustrating. The stock browser in my opinion is more stable then chrome.but this is from 2-3 days using ICS. it could change.
Thanks guys.

@ OP:
I would suggest reading THIS article on how RAM is managed in Android and that less RAM used does not mean better performance.

drkalo said:
@ OP:
I would suggest reading THIS article on how RAM is managed in Android and that less RAM used does not mean better performance.
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Good words for the thread! I am aware of Androids operating techniques. I am looking for the rom that from boot runs on the least ram. With no apps going except required apps. Thus leaving more RAM for all of your other desires We are well aware(most) that we have a dual core tegra 2 tab with limitations since tegra 3 is about to drop into stores everywhere... we still have a powerful device and anyway I can free up some space from the start, I will take I like minimalist roms... as well as fully loaded. ICS is proving to be troublesome for random people and I want to be one of the ones that says, "Oh... no SOD here. Just smooooooth butter."
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drkalo said:
@ OP:
I would suggest reading THIS article on how RAM is managed in Android and that less RAM used does not mean better performance.
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This is totally true . The screen shot i provided was Right after flashing the rom NO Email accounts set up. or nothing.
Android Os lets things sit in memory but sorta static it shows them taking up valuable ram.This allows them to use less cpu cycles to wake up PREVENTING Ram and cpu spikes. Thus using less resources and battery consumption. Yes i nknow techie guys this is not totally exact explanation but its a quick and easy one.With the basic concept.
I will add the above is the reason why task managers that Auto kill aggressively will fight with the android built in memory management. Thou they are good for trouble shooting apps that are rogue.
Sorry if this turned off topic just my screen shot being a fresh install was not totally accurate now im averaging 301 to 320s and it looks to be the average .

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Sorry if this turned off topic just my screen shot being a fresh install was not totally accurate now im averaging 301 to 320s and it looks to be the average .
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Interesting knowledge.

I'm probably not alone in watching this thread with interest...I'm looking forward to ICS, while admittedly happy with 3.2.1. I'm looking less at memory use than I am at stability; since moving to the almost-stock-yet-rooted Honeycomb, I've had close to zero problems I didn't create for myself.
For me, changing ROMs (I often wonder how the OS image got the nickname ROM, which means read-only and implies flashing to EEPROM to old guys like me) is something of a PITA, since there's much about stock Android I rip out by the roots (including Market, BTW, so everything on my tablet is sideloaded), which makes me want to do it once and get to the most stable. So for those of you brave enough to leap into ICS before us, keep posting those reports!

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I'm on stock ICS AV041_A500_019

I currently am running Icylicious 4.0.3, works awesome. Really a lot faster then before, I was starting to get frustrated with the lag in between pages... but it's better now! Love the rom, nothing's really wrong with it. Fixed dhcp drop as well as a weird problem I was having with my headphone jack when I'd plug my headphones in (had honeyvillain kernel before.) But yeah works great now! No face-unlock that I could find, but didn't really want it anyway.
Here's mine.

Running FLEXREAPER R6 ~