Hello folks.
Brew® Mobile Platform?
Can we have the Brew Platform on htc hd?
The Brew® Mobile Platform is a HTC developed platform and runs on HTC Smart. (I think so, may I take wrong, but only to correct me if I'm wrong)
HTC Smart have: 300 MHz
ROM: 256 MB
RAM: 256 MB
HTC Touch HD have: Qualcomm® MSM 7201A™ 528 MHz
ROM: 512 MB
RAM: 288 MB
So, to get Brew on HD we have to transfer it to the htc hd, should be easy with the idea of specs, or what?
it has less ram, space, and processor power than htc hd. Windows Mobile 6.5 does not seem to want to be as fast as it is on htc HD2. so why try when we were fighting against 1GHz, when we can create something new to htc hd a mobile with 300 mhz.
I really want to have it on the htc hd, although I have not tried BREW. but it is always okay with something new, and perhaps it would be cool to have it on the htc hd. but even if the screen is smaller should not stop us. we have managed to get android on the hd, and htc HD2 has a bigger screen, and we've got it on the htc hd. or what?
HTC SMART (Link)
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/smart/specification.html
HTC SMART VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4k7hpYZUJs&feature=related
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Comon, some chef that want to make a ROM with BREW for us?
The problem is.... what applications could you install on it? If it is not WM and not android.... then what apps? That would be a downfall, although I agree that it would be interesting to see how well Brew would work on the HD.
Chris Cross said:
The problem is.... what applications could you install on it? If it is not WM and not android.... then what apps? That would be a downfall, although I agree that it would be interesting to see how well Brew would work on the HD.
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Huge compatible list of Java applications is available.
Opera works, and SO? dont need 1000 apps, but a stable, new, cool rom that is like Sense on androide. but, yeah, i see what u mean, and u also have right.
but try will not hurt?
uooo !!
its new operating system ????
insestito said:
uooo !!
its new operating system ????
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i dont know if it new, but HTC says that when the mobile come to the marked it will open a app store for BREW OS with SENSE UI. so, many apps will come from HTC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-bIL925wzQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4k7hpYZUJs&feature=related (HTC VIDEO)
a tast of how it its.
Qualcomm Brew
Qualcomm - BREW
But is possible to port it to HTC HD? make a ROM for it?
the screen looks small so i think it isnt wvga
if it isnt wvga it has to be ported:-O
QVGA
2.8-inch TFT-LCD touch-sensitive screen with QVGA resolution, qvga, will it work? cant we port it anyway? pls.
miniterror said:
the screen looks small so i think it isnt wvga
if it isnt wvga it has to be ported:-O
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but i think that the brew is not only build for qvga, it will maby work ? for wvga
It would be quite cool indeed to have an OS that's better looking than Sense and Manilla AND runs on slower hardware than our Blackstone.
As far as I've seen the HTC Smart has a couple of hardwarebuttons that the Blackstone doesn't have.
Let's see if there is a chef that can use his/her magic to port this OS to the blackstone.
That would be friggen amazing
yeah, i think that same, but hd 2 have som other buttons than HD. and we have maked a rom, so, comon some chef, make a rom
now this threat stood still, we have to get it on the legs and port it for HD. or give me some real answers if i t will work or not, and explain why.
some chef that can use his/her magic to port this OS to the blackstone. a beta ROM for blackstone.. ?
too many drawbacks I think.
Porting = not easy and takes a hell of a lot time, including rewriting drivers.
Apps = nearly no Brew® apps available. Apps like navigation software or w/e. Java may be an option but big software companies that create lets say Navigation software, are not willing to write yet another piece of software. We already have Nokia (Symbian), Microsofts (WinMo), Apples (IOS4), Googles (Andriod), Blackberry's (whatever its called)...
Don't think this Brew platform will succeed.
Though, it would be a cool thing to have a lighter ROM on the blackstone...
I dont know why anyone would want to port BREW off and flash else where, its so limiting.
I'm after doing the reverse, wiping BREW from the HTC Smart (Rome) and flashing Android on, but it seems not possible...?
ok, all i taking about apps, what if some people dont care about apps, also, windows mobile dont have so many apps at this time, if people was after apps, they would have a iPhone, not a HTC HD. if u understand, i only want my mobile to be FAST, and a better looking underface. interface, u call it!.
the win 6.1 is so lala with apps that i dont care. Right?
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I am planning to sell my HTC Touch HD and hop on HTC Hero. Reasons are, I want to start using Android in my daily life ASAP, and the new HTC Sense is what I really need and wanted. Widgets, 7 window "pages", and the "scene" is also very useful feature.
On the other hand, I also think about keeping my HTC Touch HD, and wait until some Android comes on nVidia Tegra or 1ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon?
Well, discuss!
To be honest, I love the Touch HD (even after switching to the iPhone - and back) but the Hero looks really nice.
It's a bit less "professional" because of Android, but if you don't depend on features like full Exchange support or voice command, I'd say the Hero is clearly the best device on the market now (of course depending on your needs).
There are some phones with better hardware, like the Samsung i8910, but unfortunately, they run Symbian. The Hero has great hardware and great software, and both the hardware and the software are better than what Apple has to offer.
On the other hand, the HTC Leo/SuperStar should arrive within just a few months. Though the Hero is nice, it could be woth waiting (after all, the Touch HD is still a great device).
Same here !
I'm going to do the same. Android and Sense are the future of the HTC devices. I'm gonna miss my HD because of its gigantic display and resolution. If HD had a capacitive display, I would stick with it. I can admit that HD is the first device I loved using and it's mostly because of Dutty's lovely and fast roms. I have ordered my Hero and I will send some pictures of it as soon as I receive the phone.
By the way mates, is it true that the processor on Hero (and HTC Leo/SuperStar) is a dual core processor?
No, the Hero uses the same processor as the Touch HD, and the Leo/SuperStar will have the nVidia Tegra Chip (which is about twice as fast, in theory, and has great 3D and video acceleration - but I never found the Touch HD to be too slow).
It does look nice. I only hope it actually works like the movie I just downloaded from the HTC site. It's available in just about two weeks time in UK. Can anybody tell me how it would sync with PC or even better Mac? Is it Google sync only?
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It does look nice. I only hope it actually works like the movie I just downloaded from the HTC site. It's available in just about two weeks time in UK. Can anybody tell me how it would sync with PC or even better Mac? Is it Google sync only?
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I think I found my answer here.
any idea what the German price will be? wanna buy it tax free and smuggle, lol
I love the look of the new Xperia X2 which, you will all surely know, is imminent! However, after having owned an X! which was a nightmare, I'm a bit cautious. Plus, I definately do not want to touch Windows Mobile, no matter what version they thrust upon us.
I currently use a G1, thankfully without T-Mobile, and was wondering what the chances of getting a full install of Android onto the phone are like? I haven't seen much about the hardware yet myself but I'm assuming the hardware is similar to that or the X1 and other high-end HTC devices. What I would really love is Android fully operational, with full usage of the hardware as the OS for the phone....not any form of emulation.
Yeah im interested on the android to i have my x2 for about a week and its a nightmare with the wm i hate it hopefully there will be some solution soon
Yeaa, me to. Im so disapointed. Xperia X2 is so slow, full of mistakes, and worthless using.
I have to agree. But going by the specs it is the exact same thing as a HTC Touch Pro 2.
Except the:
1) tilt vs slide screen (A BIG difference)
2) 3.2 no LED vs 8.0MP with LED camera (A BIG difference)
3) 288MB vs 256MB RAM (~ no difference to experience)
4) FM Radio vs N/A (some value/difference)
5) N/A vs Optical Trackpad (some value/difference)
6) 3.6" vs 3.2" screen size (~ no difference to experience)
http://www.esato.com/phones/compare.php?phone=523&cp=458
All in all, I think the HTC has more features (except for camera) but the SE has a much better overall "feel". It is prettier and more sturdy (debatable) and the keyboard on the SE is much better (debatable but see my notes). So if the HTC had the camera, look and feel of the SE it would be a real knockout. Or if the SE had the FM Radio and Tilt screen it would be the knockout.
Why SE has better keyboard:
they both have all the useful keys (+)
the HTC has more keys (5 rows) vs SE (4 rows) (-)
The SE has larger keys (+)
The SE keys are more square (+)
The SE keys have a better tactile feel (+)
THE SE has slightly more amount of discretion between each key eg unlike Moto Droid (+)
Since HTC Touch Pro 2 got the XDA-royalty for XDAndroid, it actually should be very easy to get Android 2.1 on the X2. Why? They both have virtually the same processors and internals except the camera. The only issue would be if the X2 can be flashed, any slight differences that may need different drivers or unforeseeable factors.
If this occurred, I'd rather an XDAndroid X2 over the XDAndroid TP2 (depending on its usability ofcourse).
If you guys cannot wait for Android and really dread the WinMo ugly face maybe there is a solution.
A coocked ROM with a new UI.
For eg/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670861
Which seems pretty decent.
Add in FPsece (get the full version) and some ROMS (ie games, Tekken 3, Gran Turismo 2) and your device might just be joyful after all.
Just surf xda, there might be a UI that is just for you.
ekin said:
Or if the SE had the FM Radio and Tilt screen it would be the knockout.
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x2 has a fm radio...
indycar said:
x2 has a fm radio...
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It has a tilt screen, too.
It's just... Only really used in Slideview, but it's there.
Tricky547 said:
It has a tilt screen, too.
It's just... Only really used in Slideview, but it's there.
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you can change the registry keys so it will work on any file .exe you want
and a tilt screen if install the proper app
How to update Xperia X2 Android Os
Pls Help to install Xperia X2 in Android Os ...,
support n agree
waiting for android!
we don't even have custom Windows ROMs for the X2 so how could we even get Android
Abandon ship! Abandon ship!
pethasamy said:
Pls Help to install Xperia X2 in Android Os ...,
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yeh
some one help to install android on x2
x2 is forget
This shouldn't stop here. I'm pretty sure things can be better. That phone is so ****ed and no one trying to do anything. I don't know. Is it possible to come something good for that Phone?
yes we need some one help to install android on x2 pls sony ericsson xperia x2 how to install Android
Android X2 2012
Good time of day.
Who can take on porting Android to Xperia x2?
I am ready to pay the amount within reason.
This phone is very practical - I do not want another, but Windows mobile 6.5 portibni all outdated programs out vyhdyat for new mobile operating system (Android, IOS, Windows Phone ...)
I am sure that this is possible because the Xperia X1 and X2 are very similar in configuration.
Any questions please bid on:
xperia-x2.tk
Or put a list of all the ROM developers
Best Regards, Dmytro
Any news about android port for x2?
Hi
With the inminent release of HTC HD 2 with the new HTC Sense interface and Windows Mobile 6.5 .....
does this means we will have our HD´s finally running smooth and clean?
Better kinetic scrolling, less bugs and lags?
Refined cooked roms maybe?
Or our phones are doomed because of the actual 528 mhz processor?
Any comments??
just wait and see what our Chefs and Devs are going to do with the Leo/HD2 ROM. Only after that we can say/decide whether or HD is going to be doomed because af the old processor.
It looks quite obvious. It's not the processor or otherwise the hardware which cause the HD to be far from smooth. The Hero has got the same hardware but due to Android it runs completely smooth - I was shocked about the speed when I play-tested in the shop!
This led me to the following conclusions:
- the driver issue due to (a lack of ?) agreements between Qualcomm and HTC ;
- WM is a heavy-weight OS which does not go easy on resources -> it's simply not normal that you need a 1GHz processor plus a lot of RAM to run WM 6.1 smoothly. That's the typical Microsoft overload.
->> Don't expect your HD to become faster due to the Leo phenomenon. Sure, this community will always do its best (e.g. improving drivers, optimizing ROMs, etc.) but there are certain limits beyond which nothing can be done anymore ...
There is no connection. The HD2 will have completely different hardware so it's not like we can steal drivers from the new phone. Hence, this means nothing. Our phone is doomed unless there is some major breakthrough on the user developed driver's side, which I'm getting less and less optimistic about. I sincerely apologise for my bad mood...
Have you tried a good lightweight ROM (such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472972) before deciding your phone is doomed?
If you haven't, I urge you to try it. The lag from the stock ROM and most other bloated ROMs just disappeared after I installed this one.
Also, due to Windows Mobile being very extensible, it's quite easy to add whatever you need to this bare bones ROM.
I'll try that, thank you for the hint. What I meant is sure, you can strip it down to make it the fastest possible, but this won't give us back the hardware we paid for and we are not using. It's like having a super video card on your pc but being forced to use the preexistent onboard vga because nobody developed a driver for your new hardware.
hi, i'm very very very confused about my next phone...
my choices would be
htc hd2
acer liqui
differences
PRICE:
liquid:340€
hd2:620€ (almost double)
SO:
android vs windows mobile... windows mobile in 6.5 version is ****... it has a 2003 kernel, and an old "way of making things" in many situations... htc modifying makes things better... but don't know how much...
so it is importanto for me to know IF HD2 WILL SURELY BE UPDATED TO WM7...
camera
similar, but hd2 has flash
screen:
bigger, with all pros and cons... i prefer better screens, i don't mind about "too big" or those problems... both capacitives...
software
android has a lots of softwares... but windows mobile has also "particular softwares" to make a stupid examples, on windows mobile you have also games like "palm diablo" "palm heroes" and a lot of windows applications ported....
and you have a lot of "deep programmed software", for example you can configure hardware keys etc...
communities help etc
android has a big community, fragmented on various phones, that for now have different specs (we have old phones like g1 and new ones like acer a1)....yes very active but for htc there's xda, and there's nothing more to say, probably the most "powerful" community any device would ever have...
the biggest problem is
acer a1 liquid 340€ and has a modern OS
htc costs the double
my fear is that if leo can't be updated to wm7 would get older much faster than acer liquid...
cause yes, it has capacitive, it WOULD have multitouch... but we are talking of htc work-arounds and not of native kernel support... and if windows mobile7 will come in 2010, and htc leo won't get updated... i think software houses won't spend money developing for windows mobile 6.5 longer
the difference is that android is opensource, and usually updated on all devices... so has much more possibilities to be updated and get everyday more modern...
i'm very very very confused...
acer is eten
DOES NOT HAVE xda-developers SUPPORT
low quality
700mhz cpu
video recording qvga
no FM Radio
Android OS, v1.6
HTC HD2
high quality
1GH CPU
VGA video recording (can be 480p in the future)
WM6.5 --> WM7 (maybe)
its your choice if you dont like WM OS go for the Android
Aqrab said:
acer is eten
DOES NOT HAVE xda-developers SUPPORT
low quality
700mhz cpu
video recording qvga
no FM Radio
Android OS, v1.6
HTC HD2
high quality
1GH CPU
VGA video recording (can be 480p in the future)
WM6.5 --> WM7 (maybe)
its your choice if you dont like WM OS go for the Android
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ah i forgot to say i already have a samsung omnia hd as primary smartphone (video at 720p and 8mpixel photos)...
yes your pros and cons are almost the same i have in my mind...
but for example, 770mhz cpu vs 1000mhz, yes, but also a much more optimized OS, so it almost compensate different frequency... usually at same frequency android is faster...
what do you think, hd2 is worth 300€ more than acer?
try to imagine, you already have money for liquid... you are a student without a work, and you have to "cut" some of your "money exits" to buy hd2, what would you do?
ok then go for the acer my friend
Aqrab said:
ok then go for the acer my friend
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Hi,
What is the cost likely to be for both in Dubai and any idea where to get it ?
thanks
hello everybody,
i know that there was an similar thread half a year ago, but i think that the time changed the knowlegde about it.
i know too, that the blackstone doesn't meet the requirements for WP7, because there are more than three buttons on it.
the rom developers would surely find a way to get this still working, wouldn't they?
thanks for reply,
apo
hope so it can be developed
but it would be like running window 7 with pentium 3
Come on guy. WM6.5 is laggy already on Blackstone, what do you think about WM7 hardware specs 1Ghz at least 'd give???
That WM6.5 seem to be laggy on the Blackstone is in my opinion already a myth. On my old Qtec2020 ran WM6.5 without (any) Problem and on my Blackstone is it like a dream.
Ok, the performance schould be laggy but for the kids here is WM7 like a new toy
Thanks here for all the devs which spend so much time for progging,
and thanks for all the wifes which spend so less time with their husbands...
SPOOKY
WM7 won't be able to run properly on the HD, mainly as you need a capacitive screen which the HD hasn't got. You may eventually get some parts of it working, but it would be like running Windows XP on the Spectrum. They just aren't compatible so would never function properly
Fallen Spartan said:
WM7 won't be able to run properly on the HD, mainly as you need a capacitive screen which the HD hasn't got. You may eventually get some parts of it working, but it would be like running Windows XP on the Spectrum. They just aren't compatible so would never function properly
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Well, if we could overclock HD, it would run without any trouble. Also HD needs proper 3d drivers.
Capacitive screen isn't really needed, most functions can be ported to work on resistive screens too. How about east countries where write recognition is a must?
What we really need, is a group of talented developers.