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For a fee that is. Long story short my rooted phone would reboot every time I used data about 3 months ago. I tried flashing all types of roms, but the problem still persisted so I flashed everything on my phone back to stock. However more problems emerged and everything got worse and worse to the point that I couldn't charge my phone because it would get really hot and reboot itself and get stuck on the X. The phone was useless I couldn't make a phone call without the dam thing rebooting.
I sent my phone to HTC and I was told that my mainboard needed to be replaced and it wasn't covered under warranty, I asked the lady that was speaking to me why I wasn't covered under warranty and I was told that I was running a custom rom. I asked her why is it that so many other people who were running custom roms were able to get a replacement. I was told that it was because they were able to flash their phones completely back to stock and they couldn't flash my phone back to stock. What a load of bull! She told me that my mainboard needed to be replaced because they could not flash my phone completely back to stock in order to do their tests. My mainboard needed to be replaced because it was faulty not because of the rom I was running!
Besides my unlocked bootloader, everything was completely stock. I flashed everything back to 2.1 and the default recovery. I then updated to 2.2 through OTA.
It seems perfectly reasonable to me. HTC replacing defective displays/digitizers/buttons makes sense even if it is flashed with a custom ROM. There is no reasonable way that damage to these components would occur due to a custom ROM.
The mainboard however is a component that could easily be damaged by irresponsible overclocking or (far less likely) a bad ROM. HTC has no way of determining whether or not the damage was original or due to tinkering and in that case, especially since we were given plenty of warning, is justified in refusing warranty.
I sympathize with your plight but am siding with HTC on this one.
By stock they may mean v2.1. If they cant downgrade to 2.1 then maybe thats why they're having an issue.
By unlocking the bootloader you've voided your warranty anyway so no point complaining since they have no obligation to fix your phone.
unfortunately you were better off putting your device back to stock before sending it in.
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By stock they may mean v2.1. If they cant downgrade to 2.1 then maybe thats why they're having an issue.
By unlocking the bootloader you've voided your warranty anyway so no point complaining since they have no obligation to fix your phone.
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Not once did she mention anything about the bootloader being unlocked voiding my warranty. If she said straight up that I had unlocked my bootloader and they won't repair my phone under warranty and that the people who were able to get their phone replaced were under different circumstances, I would have accepted the fact that I am SOL.
However that was not the case and she stated that they would not replace my mainboard under warranty because they could not fully flash my phone back to its original state. Because of this they need to replace my mainboard in order to get it to stock.
I've read enough posts on people who's phones were acting the same way as my phone was, difference though is that they got their phone replaced under warranty no questions asked.
My phone had the exact same problem, and I did the exact same thing. I unlocked to it to try flashing different roms. Well it didn't work.
Called HTc I was very polite about the whole thing, got a replacement. I did opt for a swap because I thought that if I sent it in for repair thy may notice the unlocked bootloader so I figured swap would be better and it worked out great!
Maybe call again and explain the whole thing, tell them you paid over $500 for this great phone, but you can't even use it for a a phone because of the factory defects, and you are sure you have they have seen this problem in the past with many other customers; like myself. And tell her that some people online recommend you try unlocking the bootloader so you could reflash it or something, and that you don't understand it all, regardless it didn't work and all you would like is a working phone. So ask if they would be willing to simply change the motherboard or send you out a replacement unit.
I don't know just an idea, worth a shot maybe talking to them again! Goodluck
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My phone had the exact same problem, and I did the exact same thing. I unlocked to it to try flashing different roms. Well it didn't work.
Called HTc I was very polite about the whole thing, got a replacement. I did opt for a swap because I thought that if I sent it in for repair thy may notice the unlocked bootloader so I figured swap would be better and it worked out great!
Maybe call again and explain the whole thing, tell them you paid over $500 for this great phone, but you can't even use it for a a phone because of the factory defects, and you are sure you have they have seen this problem in the past with many other customers; like myself. And tell her that some people online recommend you try unlocking the bootloader so you could reflash it or something, and that you don't understand it all, regardless it didn't work and all you would like is a working phone. So ask if they would be willing to simply change the motherboard or send you out a replacement unit.
I don't know just an idea, worth a shot maybe talking to them again! Goodluck
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tried the same exact tactic to get my macbook fixed but the mac genius was juts too stubborn. remember politeness+cluelessness is the way to get a warrantee acknowledged. well good luck with getting your phone fixed!
... where are all the people on this board that flame you if you dare to ask for a way to re-lock the bootloader? You know ... the ones calling one names and telling people that HTC will honor the warranty despite the bootloader unlock.
HTC did the same to me when mine overheated and cracked it's screen sitting on my desk charging overnight. File a report with the BBB if anything, I did after HTC kept my Nexus for 3 weeks and refused to fix it because of the bootloader and I had a new one 2 days later.
I broke some resistors on my motherboard. They wont fix it for free. I'm so angry.....you accepted the voiding of the warranty when you unlocked. The lady used the wrong terms but you know what she ment. If you void a warranty and the company still honors your voided warranty then good on them. They don't have to and flashing roms CAN mess up a motherboard by overheating it among other things (over voltage etc).
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I broke some resistors on my motherboard. They wont fix it for free. I'm so angry.....you accepted the voiding of the warranty when you unlocked. The lady used the wrong terms but you know what she ment. If you void a warranty and the company still honors your voided warranty then good on them. They don't have to and flashing roms CAN mess up a motherboard by overheating it among other things (over voltage etc).
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Well said, warranty is voided, end of story. We all agreed to those terms when we unlocked our phones.
Anyone willing to sell their broken Nexus One
I killed my Nexus One, replaced the display, but it turns out I need to replace the lower board as well. Anyone have a broken Nexus One they're willing to part with?
BTW, I don't care about the condition of the display, or outside shell.
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How in the hell did you do that?
HTC also refused to repair my faulty power button because I had an unlocked bootloader and wanted to hit me with the cost of a new motherboard to fix it. I spent close to a week arguing with them (over phone and in person) before they relented to do it at no charge. My phone came back repaired but my motherboard was not replaced. They're just out to charge us for unlocking the bootloaders.
Sure glad I used the one-click root, after getting mine replaced for insensitive touchscreen...
I was trying to remove camera and when I was prying the plastic under the battery off I broke the resistors.
My phone did nearly the exact same thing your did. Every time GPS was used it would reboot. Every time I was on a call for a long period of time - reboot. etc.
I eventually called in a repair ticket, flashed my phone to complete stock (with unlocked bootloader), sent it in and they repaired it. Never said a word.
So my phone decided to start rebooting at random times all the time. No matter what ROM was on there, or if it was charging or not, it would reboot.
I called HTC and the tech asked me what I had done/tried and after a bit he told me that the sensor that detects overheating was faulty (referreed to it as the hardware watchdog) which was causing a reboot. He said that it was entirely possible that my phones memory was also borked but was not going to commit to that. He did mention that the fact it is unlocked may have negative consequences as they could blame software for the hardware failure.
I was xferred to warranty dept and opted for the "mail me a shipping label and I will mail my phone back" option rather than a swap. They told me to keep the battery, sd card, sim card, phone back plate and take off any screen protectors.
I will update this threat with what I experience so others can see what to expect.
My poor Nexus...it has treated me well.
Off goes an AT&T non SLCD model...here's hoping I get back the same
Sent mine in Thursday for dust under the screen and the sound muffled, came back in Monday fully repaired and no dust to speak of.
Good luck, sometimes 2 weeks is the wrong expected timeframe. =)
Did you get back an Amoled version?
I have a repair ticket in because my headphone jack (I thought) was flaky. I rebooted a few times and it has been working great since. When I called, I had the CS rep find out if I would get a SLCD or an AMOLED screen back as my exchange. She reported that I would get a SLCD. So I never finished the process in fear of losing my AMOLED screen, which was a huge buying factor.
I figured I use my headphone port rarely vs my screen every time. But again it seems to be working fine now. I would swap them if I knew I would get an AMOLED back.
Ticket Information
Status: Service is complete. Please visit HTC Customer Survey if you would like to take a quick survey regarding your experience contacting HTC.
Service Type: Repair
Issue Description: rebooting - (possibly overheating?)
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now to wait for it to return to me. who wants to bet nothing was done to it
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Did you get back an Amoled version?
I have a repair ticket in because my headphone jack (I thought) was flaky. I rebooted a few times and it has been working great since. When I called, I had the CS rep find out if I would get a SLCD or an AMOLED screen back as my exchange. She reported that I would get a SLCD. So I never finished the process in fear of losing my AMOLED screen, which was a huge buying factor.
I figured I use my headphone port rarely vs my screen every time. But again it seems to be working fine now. I would swap them if I knew I would get an AMOLED back.
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If your trying to warranty exchange the att unit, then I'm pretty sure you won't get the slcd unit! They stopped manufacturing the att units before manufacturing the slcd units. Anyone who swaps the att unit are only swapping for recycled refurbished att units.
Phone is back and seems fixed. They also locked my bootloader which goes to prove its possible.
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I sent mine in for power button repair on Monday using the prepaid label. they got it yesterday morning and when I checked this morning, the status says its repaired. Hopefully it'll arrive by saturday.
I just got my phone delivered. Exactly 5 business days - mailed it on Monday and arrived today. I'm certain that its my original N1 because I made an inscription before sending it in. The power button is fixed and very responsive. I'm wondering how they are able to lock it. I had rooted my N with Cyanogen 6.1 on it. Gotta start all over again.
Hey, guys after reading this thread I decided to call HTC about my N1's paint peeling issue. I opted for the swap but I'm a little hesitant now because my bootloader's unlocked. Even though the paint chipping is under warranty, the unlocking the bootloader isn't. The lady said that I'll have to pay for any "out of warranty" repairs with my phone. Do you guys think I should go ahead with the swap or ask for them to not do the swap (I can just tell them that I don't want to be charged $529)? or should I even send my N1 in at all? Thanks guys!
I sent in a Nexus One rooted phone that was completely dead. The LED wouldn't even light up when plugged in.
Exactly 1 week later they fixed it, all under warranty.
quarq said:
I sent in a Nexus One rooted phone that was completely dead. The LED wouldn't even light up when plugged in.
Exactly 1 week later they fixed it, all under warranty.
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Did u do the swap option or did you send in your Zune?
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Hey, guys after reading this thread I decided to call HTC about my N1's paint peeling issue. I opted for the swap but I'm a little hesitant now because my bootloader's unlocked. Even though the paint chipping is under warranty, the unlocking the bootloader isn't. The lady said that I'll have to pay for any "out of warranty" repairs with my phone. Do you guys think I should go ahead with the swap or ask for them to not do the swap (I can just tell them that I don't want to be charged $529)? or should I even send my N1 in at all? Thanks guys!
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Well HTC seems fair with their warranty policy. Never had to deal with them, but from what I read, if the issue is not caused by unlocking the bootloader (and I am almost 100% positive paint chipping did not start by changing the ROM ) they will honor the warranty. Look up all those posts with people with failing power button and an unlocked bootloader, getting it exchanged under warranty.
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Phone is back and seems fixed. They also locked my bootloader which goes to prove its possible.
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Are you sure your bootloader is relocked? When I sent mine in for rebooting I got the same phone back... same serial no and imei sticker under the battery, but when I connect to adb it's a different serial number. I'm guessing they swapped out the motherboard but left everything else the same (including amoled screen) which would on turn give you a locked bootloader.
HTC can lock the bootloader again, they can also set your HBOOT to S-OFF, which is probably how they lock it.
How can I tell if I have a AMOLED screen or not? Going to swap with HTC. So I guess I need to know what I'm getting in the mail from them. My nexus one would not make calls or connect to voice or data anymore. Thanks
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How can I tell if I have a AMOLED screen or not? Going to swap with HTC. So I guess I need to know what I'm getting in the mail from them. My nexus one would not make calls or connect to voice or data anymore. Thanks
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lol, if you don't know what you have, then what do you care what you get back?
I'm glad you got a laugh out of it. At least someone is happy today.
But, yes I would like to know. Do you know?
The only way to tell is with your eyes. In a dark room, bring up a mostly black screen. On an AMOLED it will be black, on SLCD you'll get backlight bleed.
Thanks Rusty It looks like its a AMOLED screen! yee ha HTC was fast on sending a Nexus one on the swap. Only four days since I called.
For those of us who ordered the Nexus One on the day it was released (January 5, 2010), we're coming up on one year, which is the period of the original warranty (see http://static.googleusercontent.com...e.com/en/us/googlephone/nexusone-warranty.pdf).
So, if you haven't unlocked your bootloader yet because you didn't want to void the warranty, you may as well do it on January 5th, because your warranty expires then anyway
LOL @ waiting a year to unlock your phone that is specifically distinguished by being unlocked.
Hey, my phone's bootloader is still unlocked you know.
HTC replaced my N1 under warranty, even though I unlocked the bootloader the day I got it. Why wait 1 year to unlock the phone's true potential?
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HTC replaced my N1 under warranty, even though I unlocked the bootloader the day I got it. Why wait 1 year to unlock the phone's true potential?
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My bootloader is locked and I have access to the full potential of my phone...just 10 minutes longer; the time needed to input the adb commands
I'm not willing to unlock my bootloader since my warranty is for a year (bought mine in september this year) and it's covered by my carrier, not by HTC...they will totally refuse any phone that has been unlocked, but won't care if it has been rooted or so (they are too noob to notice anyways )
Time sure does fly when your having fun on XDA. Still able to do everything I need with it locked
I bought mine in May and originally unlocked the bootloader... I highly recommend NOT doing so.
For one, its pointless. You can root and install custom bootloaders/kernels/roms without unlocking the bootloader
Second, you can't go back.
Third, you'll have a huge ugly unlock icon on every boot-up.
Fourth, you can't go back.
Fifth, you'll have a huge ugly unlock icon on every boot-up.
Nuff said.
I did a warranty swap for mine and luckily got a replacement that I am keeping locked (bad headset jack btw).
There is no reason to go back, and the unlock icon looks fine. What a bunch if stupid ass excuses that make zero sense.
Actually I'm not keen on the padlock, and do get tempted to lock mine back up every so often. Functionality wins though.
Mine was shipped January 7th, so the end of my primary warranty is imminent too. And I got two warranty swaps out of it, too.
It turns out I have an extra year of coverage though - yay MBNA Platinum Plus card! But I will have to figure out what is the routine for making use of this coverage. I suspect that device swaps will be out of the question; I'd probably have to send it in for repair and then submit the bill to the insurer.
Another potential snag - I think that in the fine print, to invoke my extended warranty it has to be something that would have been covered under the original warranty. So if I were to unlock the bootloader, and the insurer were to ask HTC, they might get an answer that the original warranty didn't cover my situation.
Mine was unlocked on launch day the moment I got it
The unlock icon is far from ugly, it's a nerd badge of honor.
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Third, you'll have a huge ugly unlock icon on every boot-up.
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Wear it with pride!
Never unlocked it, and I never will. No reason for that.
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Never unlocked it, and I never will. No reason for that.
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Flashing unreleased versions of Android was a huge plus for me!
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Mine was unlocked on launch day the moment I got it
The unlock icon is far from ugly, it's a nerd badge of honor.
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+1 to that guy!
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Flashing unreleased versions of Android was a huge plus for me!
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Oh, if your bootloader isnt Unlocked, cant you flash unreleased versions of android, ie upcoming gingerbread?
If i unlocked mine now, would i have to wipe and reflash my current Rom?
I unlocked mine few days after buying mine in February. I just sent mine in a few weeks ago for dust under screen and got a replacement.
They won't reject the phones because they are unlocked. They will however, I believe; reject them if they are still rooted after you send them off to HTC repair center.
I do agree with not unlocking the phone since we have the one click root method.
Can anyone give me 5 reasons why unlocking the bootloader should be done? I rooted my phone and can do pretty much everything I think that is needed.
I'm interested to know what else is being missed out on (I'm not being sarcastic, I'm honestly interested!)
The most valid reason: safer flashing of the radio.
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They won't reject the phones because they are unlocked. They will however, I believe; reject them if they are still rooted after you send them off to HTC repair center.
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Nope, I sent mine to HTC Repair Center with CM6.1 on it. They sent me a fresh replacement, no additional charges for unlocked bootloader/3rd party ROM/misc scratches/etc...
My power button has been going out the past few months, sometimes taking up to 5 times to turn it on. I'm guessing it will probably die soon enough. It probably would have died long before now if it weren't for me using trackball wake from CyanogenMod (but I still use the power button every so often such as when my hands are closer to the power button than the trackball).
Anyway, I called HTC recently and I'm going to do a swap. My warranty ends in just a few days, so I thought I'd get it fixed before then.
For those of us who bought the Nexus last January, the warranty is about to expire. Anyone else doing any service this week (or month) before it expires?
Motivated by you, I called HTC too about my power button issues. They told me swap option is not available to me (no idea why).
Since I have a few scratches on my screen too, I was looking forward to the swap option
My phone is unlocked so I did not request a repair on power button yet (I have 2 more months in warranty). I might wait and watch if the problem gets any worse.
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Motivated by you, I called HTC too about my power button issues. They told me swap option is not available to me (no idea why).
Since I have a few scratches on my screen too, I was looking forward to the swap option
My phone is unlocked so I did not request a repair on power button yet (I have 2 more months in warranty). I might wait and watch if the problem gets any worse.
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They actually told me I was out of warranty (no idea why since I bought my phone mid-January). So he said he would put a note on it explaining that it has been less than 1 year so there's no reason why I'd be out of warranty.
Maybe call back and get someone else. If you bought it less than 1 year ago, the swap should be available. Or ask why they're saying it's not an option.
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They actually told me I was out of warranty (no idea why since I bought my phone mid-January). So he said he would put a note on it explaining that it has been less than 1 year so there's no reason why I'd be out of warranty.
Maybe call back and get someone else. If you bought it less than 1 year ago, the swap should be available. Or ask why they're saying it's not an option.
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Aaah, thanks for that info. I called again and the reason they gave me that replacement is not possible because Canada charges HTC custom tax on the shipped phone which is why they are only doing replacement for Canadian phones.
However, he said that if I have a US address (which I do) then they can ship a replacement device to that address. Now I'm contemplating if I should go forward with this.
The two things that worry me are:
1) I have some scratches on my screen which are not covered under warranty
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2) My bootloader is unlocked
Will these 2 things cause my phone to be out of warranty causing HTC to charge $500 on my credit card for the replacement device they send me?
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They actually told me I was out of warranty (no idea why since I bought my phone mid-January). So he said he would put a note on it explaining that it has been less than 1 year so there's no reason why I'd be out of warranty.
Maybe call back and get someone else. If you bought it less than 1 year ago, the swap should be available. Or ask why they're saying it's not an option.
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Swap is not available to him 'cuz he lives in Canada (like me ).
bluezz said:
Motivated by you, I called HTC too about my power button issues. They told me swap option is not available to me (no idea why).
Since I have a few scratches on my screen too, I was looking forward to the swap option
My phone is unlocked so I did not request a repair on power button yet (I have 2 more months in warranty). I might wait and watch if the problem gets any worse.
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I did a swap by using a friends address. HTC reps didn't care, and were actually the ones who suggested it to me. So if you can, have it sent to a friend/family member in the US and go pick it up from them if possible. At worst they'll have to ship it to you, but you'll also have to ship your phone to them so they can ship it back to HTC to complete the swap. HTC will only send you a shipping label good for within the US if doing the swap.
Is there really a hardware issue with the power button? I ask because I do sometimes have trouble getting my N1 to acknowledge a power button press and wake up but have never had a problem when I push the power button to put the phone to sleep. Wouldn't it have a problem both turning on and off? Whenever I have the problem it seems like the phone is busy, usually something to do with the radio switching between WiFi and cellular. Or do I have a different problem?
I'd guess swap isn't available for AT&T N1's
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Aaah, thanks for that info. I called again and the reason they gave me that replacement is not possible because Canada charges HTC custom tax on the shipped phone which is why they are only doing replacement for Canadian phones.
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Ah, that makes sense. I didn't realize you were in Canada.
I didn't say anything about my unlocked bootloader Many people have posted and said HTC swapped their unlocked device without issue, so /shrug. Maybe they ding me, maybe they don't.
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Is there really a hardware issue with the power button? I ask because I do sometimes have trouble getting my N1 to acknowledge a power button press and wake up but have never had a problem when I push the power button to put the phone to sleep. Wouldn't it have a problem both turning on and off? Whenever I have the problem it seems like the phone is busy, usually something to do with the radio switching between WiFi and cellular. Or do I have a different problem?
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Yeah, power button failure seems to be a common issue. Supposedly there is a little plastic piece in there that gets worn out.
You're right; I've only noticed the power button failure when attempting to turn ON the phone... Hmm.. Could be the way the contacts inside are wired, who knows?
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Why?
They were sold from March until around late summer. The warranty is a year long either way.
I'll be in the same boat in a couple of months. I got the ATT version the first week it was sold and my power button is completely gone out for the second time. The first time, I sent it in with Cyanogen installed and they didn't care. I opted for repair, but the repair is to swap motherboards so, if the phone isn't scratched up, there's not much difference between repair and replace.
I was going to swap after Christmas but I've been using trackball wake and Invisible Lock Widget for about a month and don't miss the power button anymore. But I'll still probably get it fixed before the warranty is out, no reason not to.
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Why?
They were sold from March until around late summer. The warranty is a year long either way.
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right, but they quit selling the AT&T version after they shut the online store down. you could only get the TMobile from the Google Dev store, so I assume that HTC isn't sitting on a surplus of devices to swap.. just a guess, but I bet AT&T devices get repaired, not a new IMEI
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The first time, I sent it in with Cyanogen installed and they didn't care. I opted for repair, but the repair is to swap motherboards so, if the phone isn't scratched up, there's not much difference between repair and replace.
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Since my phone IS scratched up will HTC charge me for the replacement (scratches not covered in warranty) ?
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right, but they quit selling the AT&T version after they shut the online store down. you could only get the TMobile from the Google Dev store, so I assume that HTC isn't sitting on a surplus of devices to swap.. just a guess, but I bet AT&T devices get repaired, not a new IMEI
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Maybe they have some stocked up because after giving them my IMEI (which is that of the AT&T model), he said if I have an address in US then I can get my phone swapped (new IMEI).
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right, but they quit selling the AT&T version after they shut the online store down. you could only get the TMobile from the Google Dev store, so I assume that HTC isn't sitting on a surplus of devices to swap.. just a guess, but I bet AT&T devices get repaired, not a new IMEI
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It was a few months ago but I got two swaps of my AT&T phone. The first one had a goofy screen.
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I don't know, I just know what they said and did in my own repair experience. I asked if swapping meant I would get a new one or a refurbished one and they said it would most likely be refurbished because they rarely had new ones. This was months ago. Also, with a repair where they switch the motherboard, I think you actually get a new IMEI. Mine had a new IMEI anyway. I thought they switched phones until I read that the fix for a bad power button was to swap the motherboard, so I assume the IMEI is in it.
I had several scratches on my screen, an unlocked bootloader and chunks missing from the bottom and top of the phone where it was dropped. I did the swap option and I wasn't charged. As long as the screen scratches don't look worse than normal wear and tear I would think you would be fine.
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My warranty wont be out for another year and a half I think, since Im in Austria, and European laws are some kind different. Anyway. My powerbutton hardly works and I would be very interested in anyone having experience with european htc. do they swap? do they charge? also could I send my phone to the us (friends) and get a replacement by the us htc since they seem kinda "nice". Im really not sure what to do. I get along with the lock screen widget and trackball wake but well a new phone doesnt sound bad either... so anyone knows anything about sending phones to the us from europe or replacing / repairing in the uk?
I was going to start a new thread about my experience with HTC customer service in regards to warranty but I suppose this will do just as good in here.
If you don't want to read my story a summary is at the bottom .
First I'll start of with my phone and the issues.
I bought my Nexus One AT&T version around June of 2010. Rooted it with without unlocking bootloader, ran a few different roms, then one day BAM vibration stopped working, but after a few screen on-offs or tapping my phone in my hand it would come back. After countless attempts to fix the issue such as master clears, flash back to original shipping, and finally in a last ditch effort UNLOCKED the bootloader so I had unrestricted access to rectify the problem. Nothing worked and finally had to accept the fact the little vibration motor had quit on me.
I called up HTC in December about the week before christmas and told them the problem which they agreed was a hardware issue. Not once did they ask if my bootloader was unlocked nor did I offer up that information. They offered me the two options of either a swap or send in my unit for repair. I choose the swap option for fear that they would get my phone, run tests, and not reproduce the issue since it was intermittent for me. Here is the scary part to do the swap they needed a hold on my credit card for $528.00 , risky to say the least since my bootloader was unlocked but seeing as it was hardware failure I was willing to risk it and hope the charge would drop off once they received the phone. In preparation to send my phone back I flashed back to completely stock removing root.
The next day the phone arrived FedEx . First thing I noticed was that my battery cover fit much more snug with no gaps and did not stick out just slightly above the top. Next the power button and volume buttons were much firmer. And of course the vibration was strong as an ox . Also to note it shipped with 2.2.1 (not D) and had the 5.08 radio, Hboot 35 and the AMOLED screen NOT SLCD. All in all the replacement seemed much better than my original, lol.
Now seeing as christmas was so close I wasn't able to FedEx it back to them (they provided the label) for almost a week. But once I sent it off it was overnighted to them and received without issue. Plus the hold on my credit card was also dropped!
So to sum it up I had an AT&T Nexus one with Bootloader Unlocked, bad vibration motor, got it swapped out under warranty, was not charged a dime, and am now even more of an HTC fan and happy to have a fully functional Nexus One.
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I was going to start a new thread about my experience with HTC customer service in regards to warranty but I suppose this will do just as good in here.
If you don't want to read my story a summary is at the bottom .
First I'll start of with my phone and the issues.
I bought my Nexus One AT&T version around June of 2010. Rooted it with without unlocking bootloader, ran a few different roms, then one day BAM vibration stopped working, but after a few screen on-offs or tapping my phone in my hand it would come back. After countless attempts to fix the issue such as master clears, flash back to original shipping, and finally in a last ditch effort UNLOCKED the bootloader so I had unrestricted access to rectify the problem. Nothing worked and finally had to accept the fact the little vibration motor had quit on me.
I called up HTC in December about the week before christmas and told them the problem which they agreed was a hardware issue. Not once did they ask if my bootloader was unlocked nor did I offer up that information. They offered me the two options of either a swap or send in my unit for repair. I choose the swap option for fear that they would get my phone, run tests, and not reproduce the issue since it was intermittent for me. Here is the scary part to do the swap they needed a hold on my credit card for $528.00 , risky to say the least since my bootloader was unlocked but seeing as it was hardware failure I was willing to risk it and hope the charge would drop off once they received the phone. In preparation to send my phone back I flashed back to completely stock removing root.
The next day the phone arrived FedEx . First thing I noticed was that my battery cover fit much more snug with no gaps and did not stick out just slightly above the top. Next the power button and volume buttons were much firmer. And of course the vibration was strong as an ox . Also to note it shipped with 2.2.1 (not D) and had the 5.08 radio, Hboot 35 and the AMOLED screen NOT SLCD. All in all the replacement seemed much better than my original, lol.
Now seeing as christmas was so close I wasn't able to FedEx it back to them (they provided the label) for almost a week. But once I sent it off it was overnighted to them and received without issue. Plus the hold on my credit card was also dropped!
So to sum it up I had an AT&T Nexus one with Bootloader Unlocked, bad vibration motor, got it swapped out under warranty, was not charged a dime, and am now even more of an HTC fan and happy to have a fully functional Nexus One.
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That is great news. Thanks for posting.
I'm worried now because my power button isn't *totally* dead but the email they sent has the issue listed as "defective power button". So I hope they don't just press it once, see that it works, and call me a liar. I did tell the rep I spoke to that it was intermittent. Anyway, I hope my case works out like yours.
Mine is coming back from repair on Tuesday
I live in the UK and mine was piked up on the 30th Dec (phoned on the 29th) as my power button is dying slowly for the second time (first repair was in Sept '10 so not long ago!) and I was concerned that as I bought mine on the release date (5th Jan) I would be screwed if I left it any longer with only days left. That was until the lady at HTC UK told me that my warranty runs out on the 25th Dec 2011. Seems as an earlier poster mentioned that EU warranties are 2yrs which is nice for me.
I'm still wondering whats going to happen with this power button fiasco. The HTC agent wasn't aware of any known problem with them (not saying much really is it?) but said I could appeal the repair charges and some "arrangement" could be made (50% off or something to that effect). Anyway, that's just under a year away and I might start getting a bit pissed with them and start requesting that this isn't acceptable to keep sending my phone off every couple of months for 2 weeks at a time while a small part is replaced in my phone!
The first time it went back for the power button, (first time was in March for soft keys acivating when 1/3rd way down screen, got replaced for current unit with different touch screen revision) I had the phone unlocked with the infamous unlocked padlock symbol glaring at me every boot up. I sent it off and HTC just repaired the faulty button and flashed a locked 2.1 image, no questions (took almost a month to get back though!). Sweet! Now it was just a case of using one of the one-click root type apps and away I went.
Quick question guys: How likely is it that we'll get SLCD screens if we get a swap right now?
When I read that HTC was offering to replace cracked screens on a one-time basis I thought that was pretty cool. But then I read it was only if the screen was cracked within the first 6 months and I thought what were the odds of that happening. Seemed like it was more likely to happen in months 6-24. Well, I got my M8 in April and the other day I dropped it. I was sitting down and reached into my pocket when it rang and it fell out. It was only a short distance and I've had it happen many times before without incident, but for some reason the screen completely shattered. I even had a protector on it to no avail.
Well, I contacted HTC via messenger and had a great experience. It did take awhile as the operator went over the various options, but ultimately I chose the completely free option which will take 8-10 days which I can afford because I am just using my old phone. Just sent it off yesterday so I'll let you know how it goes, but so far, it seems they have lived up to their promise.
That's awesome ! I was wondering how they would handle this and if there weren't any conditions they could deny your phone.
Well i'm not going to try it on purpose ..
They just asked for the serial # and then they were able to get all of the other information they needed from that, although they did ask when I bought the phone. I'm not sure why they would ask that considering it had to be less than 6 months that I've had it.
They sent me a pre-paid label and I dropped it off at UPS.
Be thankful you live in a country where they offer the advantage program
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Oh, really. What country do you live in that they don't offer it?
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Oh, really. What country do you live in that they don't offer it?
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Every other country except USA?
bigragu said:
Oh, really. What country do you live in that they don't offer it?
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Canada's HTC Advantage is only the extra Google Drive space and software update promise.
Didn't realize. Doesn't really make any sense why that would be.
So you didn't root this or anything I hope right?
I just got off the chat with HTC and they said if I root this phone it voids all warranty even screen repair.
So now I have been scrambling to go back to stock everything from S-OFF so I can send this in for repair using the same free option.
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So you didn't root this or anything I hope right?
I just got off the chat with HTC and they said if I root this phone it voids all warranty even screen repair.
So now I have been scrambling to go back to stock everything from S-OFF so I can send this in for repair using the same free option.
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Unfortunately, they will still be able to tell. My screen shattered and I had an unlocked bootloader with S-off. Went back to stock, re-locked, changed re-locked to locked and removed tampered banner, and sent it in (from what I read turning S-on will trip re-locked and tampered so I didn't do).
Got a quote from them yesterday that they'd only replace my screen for free if I paid $290 for them to replace my motherboard since my bootloader was unlocked (they will look to see if you requested an unlock token from HTC Dev as well as looking on the device itself). After spending an hour on the phone with them yesterday they say they will do it for $145 but a supervisor is supposed to call me back so we can discuss more. They still haven't explained to me why the motherboard needs to be replaced besides "we have to since the bootloader was unlocked."
My approach when dealing with them is that there are two separate warranties for the phone - the screen replacement warranty and a 1 year warranty for the rest of the phone. The screen warranty doesn't mention unlocked bootloader voiding it, only that "unauthorized modifications.." will. Whereas the 1 year warranty mentions "unauthorized modifications..." as well as "the bootloader has been unlocked.." voiding the warranty.
I'll let you guys know where I get with them.
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Unfortunately, they will still be able to tell. My screen shattered and I had an unlocked bootloader with S-off. Went back to stock, re-locked, changed re-locked to locked and removed tampered banner, and sent it in (from what I read turning S-on will trip re-locked and tampered so I didn't do).
Got a quote from them yesterday that they'd only replace my screen for free if I paid $290 for them to replace my motherboard since my bootloader was unlocked (they will look to see if you requested an unlock token from HTC Dev as well as looking on the device itself). After spending an hour on the phone with them yesterday they say they will do it for $145 but a supervisor is supposed to call me back so we can discuss more. They still haven't explained to me why the motherboard needs to be replaced besides "we have to since the bootloader was unlocked."
My approach when dealing with them is that there are two separate warranties for the phone - the screen replacement warranty and a 1 year warranty for the rest of the phone. The screen warranty doesn't mention unlocked bootloader voiding it, only that "unauthorized modifications.." will. Whereas the 1 year warranty mentions "unauthorized modifications..." as well as "the bootloader has been unlocked.." voiding the warranty.
I'll let you guys know where I get with them.
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But requesting a unlock token from htcdev doesn't necessarily mean that the device is unlocked. This HTC policy is crap.
I got my screen replaced under warranty from HTC for my One X, and they gave me a non gorilla glass, which i realized in a week as it got plenty of scratches easily. But didn't bother to explain the dumb customer care, just sold the device...
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When I read that HTC was offering to replace cracked screens on a one-time basis I thought that was pretty cool. But then I read it was only if the screen was cracked within the first 6 months and I thought what were the odds of that happening. Seemed like it was more likely to happen in months 6-24. Well, I got my M8 in April and the other day I dropped it. I was sitting down and reached into my pocket when it rang and it fell out. It was only a short distance and I've had it happen many times before without incident, but for some reason the screen completely shattered. I even had a protector on it to no avail.
Well, I contacted HTC via messenger and had a great experience. It did take awhile as the operator went over the various options, but ultimately I chose the completely free option which will take 8-10 days which I can afford because I am just using my old phone. Just sent it off yesterday so I'll let you know how it goes, but so far, it seems they have lived up to their promise.
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Wow well be careful next time
I smashed the screen on my one and damaged the case and speaker grills. All repaired by HTC for £103 ($175) in just over 2 weeks. Couldn't believe how cheap it was considering the parts themselves cost more than the actual cost of repair.
So a all in all thumbs up for HTC for not charging an extortionate price for repair. I sent mine in unlocked everything, but no complaints from HTC because I wasn't claiming under warranty.
I was watching xmen yesterday and when it ended I got up and somehow my phone slipped out of my shorts pocket and landed screen down. It made such a loud noise I was so scared to pick it up. Luckily, when I did not a scratch on the screen. I think what might've saved me was I had a clear skin on the two grills (nothing on screen) which might've propped it up a bit by making a lip. There was a small scuff on the metal rim on the left side of the phone. I took a nail filer and smoothed it out. When you shine light on it you can see some scratches from filing. However, when you run your finger down it, it doesn't catch like it did when the scuff was there.
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otariq said:
I was watching xmen yesterday and when it ended I got up and somehow my phone slipped out of my shorts pocket and landed screen down. It made such a loud noise I was so scared to pick it up. Luckily, when I did not a scratch on the screen. I think what might've saved me was I had a clear skin on the two grills (nothing on screen) which might've propped it up a bit by making a lip. There was a small scuff on the metal rim on the left side of the phone. I took a nail filer and smoothed it out. When you shine light on it you can see some scratches from filing. However, when you run your finger down it, it doesn't catch like it did when the scuff was there.
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So how was the movie
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they charged me $290 because i rooted and unlocked my bootloader on AT&T variant.. they said it is no under warranty anymore
it wasn't converted to GPE, just rooted..
before i sent to them i re-locked bootloader and installed stock version as well. .still they charged me $290
I can't believe how horrible this is. It's really not what one would expect by a company such as HTC, especially as they are trying to build a loyal user base and get out of trouble.
As far as I read until now, this doesn't seem to happen in Europe, but this policy proves that they are only behaving well in Europe because of the laws, not because of caring for being fair.
flayzeraynx said:
they charged me $290 because i rooted and unlocked my bootloader on AT&T variant.. they said it is no under warranty anymore
it wasn't converted to GPE, just rooted..
before i sent to them i re-locked bootloader and installed stock version as well. .still they charged me $290
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Wow really? I thought warranty was still valid. In any case, how would a shattered screen be related to software mods? I have an AT&T variant as well with S-Off and unlocked bootloader. Not looking good then.
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Wow really? I thought warranty was still valid. In any case, how would a shattered screen be related to software mods? I have an AT&T variant as well with S-Off and unlocked bootloader. Not looking good then.
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nope, i did 4 times conversation with htc representative and they told me, when you download bootloader unlock file from htc's website, there is a disclaimer says this will void your warranty.. you have to accept that to download the unlock file.. that is why they charged $290 for the replacement on cracked screen even if i revert back to stock and re-lock it
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nope, i did 4 times conversation with htc representative and they told me, when you download bootloader unlock file from htc's website, there is a disclaimer says this will void your warranty.. you have to accept that to download the unlock file.. that is why they charged $290 for the replacement on cracked screen even if i revert back to stock and re-lock it
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Unfortunately, they will still be able to tell. My screen shattered and I had an unlocked bootloader with S-off. Went back to stock, re-locked, changed re-locked to locked and removed tampered banner, and sent it in (from what I read turning S-on will trip re-locked and tampered so I didn't do).
Got a quote from them yesterday that they'd only replace my screen for free if I paid $290 for them to replace my motherboard since my bootloader was unlocked (they will look to see if you requested an unlock token from HTC Dev as well as looking on the device itself). After spending an hour on the phone with them yesterday they say they will do it for $145 but a supervisor is supposed to call me back so we can discuss more. They still haven't explained to me why the motherboard needs to be replaced besides "we have to since the bootloader was unlocked."
My approach when dealing with them is that there are two separate warranties for the phone - the screen replacement warranty and a 1 year warranty for the rest of the phone. The screen warranty doesn't mention unlocked bootloader voiding it, only that "unauthorized modifications.." will. Whereas the 1 year warranty mentions "unauthorized modifications..." as well as "the bootloader has been unlocked.." voiding the warranty.
I'll let you guys know where I get with them.
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So after talking to them Friday, they said someone from the repair team would call me in 3-5 days. Today (Monday) I got a message that they would in fact replace my screen free of charge. He apologized and said because the bootloader was unlocked it automatically generated the $290 quote to fix it but since the software on my phone was stock and supported by HTC they would fix it under warranty. They should be shipping my phone back to me tomorrow or the next day.
From what I've seen there is a lot of confusion on the issue of free screen replacement and unlocked bootloader. So for those of you in a similar situation I would recommend converting back to stock completely (bootloader and rom) before sending to HTC and when they send you a quote for $290, call and complain and ask to speak to a manager when they say there's nothing they can do. Only the Limited Warranty (which is separate from the Screen Warranty) stipulates unlocking the bootloader void's the warranty and you're filing a claim under the Screen Warranty. If you keep complaining they'll eventually do it for free.
Hope this saves more than a few people the $290 they keep trying to charge.