okay so as you know i created a few roms now based on 2.1. i know that shocked most of you because i never liked 2.1 that much to begin with, it felt slow & bulky even after flashing several roms. so i decided to make my own based on fresh 2.0d. now i will admit they are pretty fast and i enabled jit on my phone too but for the hell of it i went and restored my trusty pancake 1.5c backup as a test. the difference is like night & day. speed wise and free ram wise. now mind you i have the exact same # of apps on each rom and pretty much set up the same way minus different themes.
so my question is why does it seem 1.5 is soo much smoother & faster?
maybe it's the tweaked 1.5c kernel in the pancake rom?
and yes i know were still trying to get the bugs worked out of JIT but i did this test just for myself to see if i can improve upon my roms at all.
maybe its a placebo effect? i dont remember 1.5 being much snappier than the current 2.1. the fastest rom with no hang ups i've ever used is the now defunct 1.6 aosp =( if it wasnt for the camera i'd still be using it.
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maybe its a placebo effect?
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no, it's not that. everything is 10x snappier and the free ram is at least 20% higher than the fresh 2.0 based roms. it's not a big deal i guess just something i had to do but it has me thinking now.
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maybe its a placebo effect? i dont remember 1.5 being much snappier than the current 2.1. the fastest rom with no hang ups i've ever used is the now defunct 1.6 aosp =( if it wasnt for the camera i'd still be using it.
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im pretty sure camera works on 1.6 only thing that doesnt is camcorder and bluetooth i believe could be wrong though but im almost positive cam works
Eris based roms
I too am disappointed with the speed of the sprint based 2.1 roms. I do think that 1.5 is comparable. However, I get the best performance out of the Eris based 2.1 roms. I have even found fresh toast 1.1 to be choppier than DC1.0, which I use as my daily. Fresh toast does many things very fast, but it is just too choppy. DC1.0 runs her smooth. in fact, the only difference I find is neocore running at 29 with DC1.0, as opposed to 34 with fresh toast. However, that difference is not reflected in 3d games like those by polarbit, or in web browsing (which actually seems slower), or even in navigating sense, which is just choppy.
You are comparing a pre-release, admittedly buggy ROM against an established production ROM. Of course 2.1 (pre) will be slower.
I will assume the Sprint released 2.1 will have possibly the same performance as the 1.5 ROM (possibly smoother -- depending on HTC's intent in releasing the ROM).
Unfortunately, our hardware was dated from the start and is our main challenge.
Please don't take this as a flame. Just an observation/opinion.
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Well, it's been 3 weeks since I bricked my phone. Mine was 1 of those that had no recovery mode so I had to send it in to get repaired. As I live abroad, the turn around time was a very LONG 3 weeks. Anyway, browsing the development section I see a lot of the devs have gone into over drive. There are SO MANY Rom's to choose from that frankly, I'm a bit overwhelmed at which to choose.
Bionix Final
Bionix Fusion 1.1
Froyo JPA Macnut
Froyo JPO Axura
AOSPish 1.4
MasterRom Final
Then there are all the kernels as well as the zmod4 mod. I mean wtf! lol!!
I was running Bionix 1.7 with Voodoo and it was unbelievably smooth and fast. Now I just don't even know where to start.
In your opinions , what combo would be the fastest, most stable, smoothest and closest one of all of those to Bionix 1.7 OC w/voodoo?
Wow, this is such a loaded question since the answer is always going to be one of opinion. But, since I have one of those, I'll throw in my $0.02 worth.
My phone was also bricked by the OTA. However, I was able to use ODIN to flash back to stock. Knowing I could do this gave me the confidence to try the Bionix 1.x versions (pre Final). When Fusion came out, I went to it and am very happy that I did. In my opinion, it is what Samsung should have release in the first place. (Samsung should really consider engaging this team - or other developers who are spending a lot of time tweaking the ROMs - as consultants on their future releases). So, to answer your question:
* They (both flavors of Bionix) are very stable
* Doesn't require a lag fix.
So, I'm pretty happy. The main difference (as I understand it) between Bionix Final and Fusion is whether you have all of the Samsung stuff included. Fusion doesn't include Touchwiz. I'm a Launcher Pro person, so Fusion is a better choice for me.
Now, regarding the Froyo builds. Depends on what you want to do with your phone. I view those builds as "bleeding edge." So, I want them to be around a little longer before I go that route. But that's just me.
Good luck.
It all depends on your personal preference.
If you are afraid to brick your new replacement and wait another 3 weeks I'd suggest going with Bionix Final stock kernel option, if you feel adventurous go with Bionix Fusion with non-stock kernel. I would, personally, wait for a stable Froyo ROM, current ROM's lack GPS drivers due to unavailability of the source from Samsung, but as soon as an official leak shows up or OTA roll out, I am pretty sure there will be a stable Froyo builds to choose from.
In my opinion, you cannot go wrong with Fusion JAC kernel, it smooths the phone to a degree I don't even see what stock OTA Froyo could bring to the table except Adobe Flash support. My understanding in the delays associated with Froyo release is the JIT (just in time compiler) hasn't been optimized for Hummingbird CPU, and Samsung is working on the optimization.
I recommend Bionix Fusion 1.1 with Project Core kernal 1Ghz. Its very stable, very fast and smooth and good battery life. There is also a Project Core 1.2 Ghz kernel but that one ran my cpu kinda hot with continuous use and I flashed down to the 1Ghz kernel. Not to mention Team Whiskey has put a lot of effort into making this rom as usable as possible. Far as that goes, every rom development team on here has lol. Thats my recommendation though.
That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
Bionix Fusion 1.1 w/ project core v1 @ 1.2 if your phone can handle it. I have flashed just about every rom that has been released including the froyo roms and to me, this is by far the best rom / kernel combo.
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That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
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JIT in the newer Froyo builds is working.. what are you talking about? Everything works with the exception of GPS. The only issue that you may encounter is GPS and battery life complaints (results may vary) and the occasional data drop problem.
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That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
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Acutally flash one of those ROM's before saying things don't work or they aren't stable..
They are stable, JIT DOES work, etc.
I've had great performance with Bionix Fusion using the Core v1 kernal (over clocked to 1.2). I threw the OCLF on top of it, but everything already ran great without it.
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Acutally flash one of those ROM's before saying things don't work or they aren't stable..
They are stable, JIT DOES work, etc.
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Things aren't wrong with stable ROMs. It's a port. A port is a port. Fact is when official froyo made for our MODEL of galaxy s, these froyo sources will be dropped. The 2.1 roms for us are built on a stable base built for our phones. They're just facts. Not discrediting any work done. If my friend asked a recommendation, I certainly wouldn't recommend an experimental ROM with dysfunctional features, and that's what this thread is about.
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JIT in the newer Froyo builds is working.. what are you talking about? Everything works with the exception of GPS. The only issue that you may encounter is GPS and battery life complaints (results may vary) and the occasional data drop problem.
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Not efficiently. And yeah so your advice is a ROM with no GPS and data difficulties on a more than capable device? Dude, what are YOU talking about?
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I've been running bionix fusion with project core v1 @1.2 and it's pretty good, however I had a random reboot so I might go down to the 1ghz, we'll see.
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Things aren't wrong with stable ROMs. It's a port. A port is a port. Fact is when official froyo made for our MODEL of galaxy s, these froyo sources will be dropped. The 2.1 roms for us are built on a stable base built for our phones. They're just facts. Not discrediting any work done. If my friend asked a recommendation, I certainly wouldn't recommend an experimental ROM with dysfunctional features, and that's what this thread is about.
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I have to agree/disagree with you. Even though 2.2 ROMs are ports, they are still very very good. And if you can live w/o the GPS.. Well, go with one of them
If you can't live w/o a GPS, then go with Master Rom or Bionix Fusion
Fusion with the Core kernel is awesome for me. 1.2GHz without increased voltage is nice. This is my first android device and I really like Launcher Pro.
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That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs.
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You seem to have a very different definition of the word "stable" compared to most people. IMO, "stable" means not rebooting or force closing randomly. What you describe is "not fully featured."
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing).
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Nutty. Fusion 1.1 w/ Core1zMod? Way faster than JI6 stock. Try placing a widget or calling up any app.
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You seem to have a very different definition of the word "stable" compared to most people. IMO, "stable" means not rebooting or force closing randomly. What you describe is "not fully featured."
Nutty. Fusion 1.1 w/ Core1zMod? Way faster than JI6 stock. Try placing a widget or calling up any app.
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I've used it, it's pointless to argue. We're talking about milliseconds here. If you reopen and close a random app 10x. Each of our setups would hesitate on a few of them. I'm satisfied with speed on this thing. I'm more focused on new features. And your opinion is wrong, the gps and apparently data is not stable at all or at all times. Gps would be a component of the rom, which in turn makes the rom experimental. Its just made well enough to use daily.
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Gentlemen, thanks for all of the replies. It's very much appreciated.
I am going to switch between a Froyo version and Bionix Fusion. I have absolutely no use for GPS where I'm located, never even used it once. So I'm going to give Froyo a try to see what it's like. Then in all honesty, unless it's unbelievable... I see myself going to Bionix Fusion as it's the most recommended here.
No matter which I eventually end up with, I think I'll be keeping it at 1Ghz. No OC for me until I run some serious tests. My OCing experience with computers tells me that OCing a unit without any additional cooling and having it sealed in a casing that must be close to as warm as hell, is a seriously bad idea. Even without extra juice, I can only see more harm coming from that than any actual real world benefits. But I'll know for sure after I see what the temp variations are like. (Anyone care to share their experience with that?)
Again, thank you all for the suggestions.
Why is there no love for AOSPish 1.4? Lol I really love that rom with JACS oc/uv kernel. Its an awesome rom if u want to go for a more stock android look. Either way u cant really go wrong with any of these roms. Developers are bustin their butts to constantly improve them. I think u should just try a few out and see what works best for u! Good luck
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Hmmmmmmm Roms
Like most of the people who already posted I think people are getting way myopic about what is better yadida..........
My experience has been the one thing that never really gets resolved 100% is the GPS, and that is not that important to me
The Froyo's
The Axura's
The Bionix's
Eugenes Roms
Master's roms
All of the above are fantastic in their own right. The Better question is "what do i really need and want" then look at the roms and "back engineer" you needs and wants to the rom that most matches that criteria. What i see is this over active need to have the fastest most newest rom.... ok.......... so, that is like having a Massaretti in commuter traffic... you cannot utilize the power.... so look to your needs and wants and find a balanced rom thatfits that
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Like most of the people who already posted I think people are getting way myopic about what is better yadida..........
My experience has been the one thing that never really gets resolved 100% is the GPS, and that is not that important to me
The Froyo's
The Axura's
The Bionix's
Eugenes Roms
Master's roms
All of the above are fantastic in their own right. The Better question is "what do i really need and want" then look at the roms and "back engineer" you needs and wants to the rom that most matches that criteria. What i see is this over active need to have the fastest most newest rom.... ok.......... so, that is like having a Massaretti in commuter traffic... you cannot utilize the power.... so look to your needs and wants and find a balanced rom thatfits that
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Very well said and great analogy. Don't forget there are tons of people who want a Ferrari or Lambo just for the wow factor while in traffic. Most custom roms give you that wow compared to stock.
Hey,
im currently running Floyo on my HTC Hero. Im wondering what is the currently fastest and best running Rom out there.
Are the other Froyo Roms out there better than Floyo? Why are they better?
Shall i test the Gingerbread Roms? Are they faster than the Froyo Roms? Do they run better on your Devices ? What about the battery life?
fiden
from my experience I think elelinux 6.2 is the fastest, but for me it's also a little unstable unless he's solved that problem since I used it (which was a few weeks ago).
floyo is really good too though so you might want to stay where you are.
make sure to use launcherpro which is by far the fastest launcher on the hero.
gingerbread is fairly fast but not really as instantaneous to respond to your taps as some of the faster older roms out there. I actually find that cronos eclair light is the fastest rom to respond to my commands, but it's a highly modified 2.1 sense rom which means you're limited to 2.1 features (if that bothers you, it annoys me now that I'm used to gingerbread).
It's a trade off really. gingerbread is the best os so far, but it does have a couple of graphical framerate issues in UI screen transitions and some 3d stuff.
It's camera might not be quite as fast or good as with older roms also, however I'm not convinced of that yet.
You can always create a nandroid of your current setup (or a bart which will be a bigger backup but will include your ext partition - sort of a necessary thing imho). then wipe all and try a gb rom. you can restore to your floyo bart backup any time if you decide to.
Froyo at the moment is very rock stable and still faster than Gingerbread (Beta). It's like comparing Windows XP and Windows Vista. GB beta offers something interesting. However, from time to time, you may experience FC, lag, GPS problem, unexplained reboot and some apps not useable (not updated yet for GB). The default camera on GB is still bad, very colourless. If you use alternative like Camera 360, only then it is good. If you use GPS a lot, bear in mind Runkeeper or Buddy Runner will have problem connecting to GPS. My daily working ROM is also Floyo 1.20. Use Nandroid to backup your Froyo first. Wipe all, Flash any GB ROM (I had tried Ele's 0.6 and Cronos' 1.10) to try out yourselves.
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make sure to use launcherpro which is by far the fastest launcher on the hero.
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I haven't tried LP for a few months, but I am quite sure Zeam is faster
Of course Zeam doesn't have as many features.
Ive been running GB for about two weeks and have only had one lock up. (mind you I was reinstalling all my apps while trying to listen to music so probably my fault there..)
Only had 1 FC and that was in Gmail after I changed my signature in the settings but hasnt done it when I edit it since.
Havn't noticed any lag (then again I use Zeam, which flies along anyway),
and I get 3 days battery, half a day more than froyo with the same usage. (then again its using a different Kernel compared to what Froyo was using so that may be why).
As for colourless camera, ive not noticed any difference at all since updating. if it does worry people that much, you guys do know that the stock camera has settings for bumping saturation/contrast/etc up right..? and it remembers the settings so set and forget..?
But yeah. I switched to GB as soon as I was getting reports through it was all stable and nice and I have not been disappointed. In froyo I always used to run into market install problems every so often (items would download but not install, no matter what froyo rom I used this problem used to come and go randomly.) none of that yet!
Have not tried the GPS yet on a proper drive, but on preliminary tests (local runs around the block on foot and in car) I get a fix within 6seconds inside the house by a window and 4seconds out side, Google maps, Copilot and runkeeper all working fine.
As others said. Make a nandroid, full wipe, flash and have a try for a few days.
If you say the Ginger-Roms are still not stable, i will not test them and wait a little time until they are stable . Thanks for your help!!
So is there a difference between the Froyo Roms out there? Shall i test the others like Froyd or Elelinux or Cronos? Somebody made experiences with TastyFroyo from RaduG?
fiden
Im running Cronos Ginger (non-Anim)....
Its much faster than the froyo ROMs i had used in the past. Only problem is that some apps refuse to work... like Opera Mini, Angry Birds 1.5.1
But its not a big deal, its my day-2-day ROM and very useable
So far I'm finding the GB roms pretty damn slow (all of them, including fresh Cyanogen). The fastest ROMs are still probably modded 2.1 sense ROMS, but then your trading features for speed. There are a lot of very fast, stable and feature rich 2.2 ROMs out there though, so that is the safe middle-ground right now.
I've tried a bunch of ROMs, but as far as I can say, Elelinux's CM 7.0.0-based ROM (v0.6) is the fastest of all. Gingerbread ROMs for the Hero have gotten pretty fast over the last couple of weeks.
And concerning the launchers, I'd say Zeam's the fastest.
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I've tried a lot of rooms too. When I went from eclair to froyo, I found many useful new functions (tethering the first one), but from froyo to ginger what are the advantages? I tried, but then I went back to floyo, the froyo version which gives me the highest scores on tests...
Tests arnt the be all and end all
For example, Tasty gingerbread rom gave me the best scores. but the UI was laggy as hell. the tests are just how information is moved about as apposed to how fast YOU can interact with the device. I hardly ever run tests any more I just use the best testing equipment for me, my eyes lol
hey thanks to all you answers.
So i put an eye on the new Cronos Froyo 1.8.0, which is out since the 10th. Somebody here who tested Cronos Froyo and somebody who can tell me about his experiences with CF?
Cronos is a very good developer... ive tested his roms in the past and there were many good roms out there a couple of them were the best out there!
What about Cronos Froyo?
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hey thanks to all you answers.
So i put an eye on the new Cronos Froyo 1.8.0, which is out since the 10th. Somebody here who tested Cronos Froyo and somebody who can tell me about his experiences with CF?
Cronos is a very good developer... ive tested his roms in the past and there were many good roms out there a couple of them were the best out there!
What about Cronos Froyo?
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CF 1.8 is great. Coming from CG 1.1 but CF is much much much faster! Try it, in my eyes no G rom is faster than Froyo.
I flashed 2.3 GB about 2 weeks ago, and noticed it wasn't as snappy as I thought. It got to the point when I got too many FC's and lockups, when I decided to go back to Darch's 2.2 Froyo Rom. All I can say is I feel like I got a new phone, by.... downgrading to froyo(?) My question is, why did 2.3 run like a slideshow for me vs. 2.2 which runs nearly as smooth as my brother's LG Optimus? I want 2.3 to run faster than Darch's 2.2 rom, and expected it to do so, but it is completely backwards. Has anyone else incurred this problem?
Also, as far as game playability, I was expecting a slight performance boost from 2.2. to 2.3, but games like Mx Moto Mayhem ran like a slideshow on GB, and once I reverted back to 2.2, it ran perfectly fine.
I am just baffled and disappointed out of the performance I have gotten out of GB so far. I have tried changing the VM heap size, JIT on/off (and on a side note, 2.2 is running good without JIT enabled), and nothing seemed to help. What needs to be done to get GB running faster than Froyo?
Just to try to remove as many variable as possible, Ill let you know that this is based off of "stock" cpu speeds to the respective roms (stock meaning I didn't touch the OC speeds). Also, when I installed GB, I followed the exact instructions he gave, and the installation itself went smoothly. The only thing extra I flashed to BOTH roms is GAPPS.
If anyone has input, please let me know! Thanks
Might have something to do with the 3 or 4 month headstart froyo roms have over gingerbread.
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CM7 runs smoother/faster than CM6 ever has for me. Dunno what to tell you.
If you remember, when CM6 WAS released the early builds weren't nearly close to what they are know. I think devs just want us to taste Gingerbread, while they are working to make the roms more stable. If you stay on froyo and come back to CM7 in 3 months you will notice the difference.
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Will you post a link to which Darch Rom you are running? I am looking for the best 2.2 Rom right now...thanks.
I used this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755795
Which is the fastest rom I have used; you might want to get other people's opinion as well.
Does anyone know how to Overclock Virtous Fusion 3.0? Ive seen a thread to Overclock it but the down side is that the Camera and Camcorder does not function anymore. Help Please Thank you
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Does anyone know how to Overclock Virtous Fusion 3.0? Ive seen a thread to Overclock it but the down side is that the Camera and Camcorder does not function anymore. Help Please Thank you
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Did you wipe the handset prior to flashing. I'm coming from Cyanogen(mod) CM7 nightly and eViL's Sense 3.0 is as about as smooth as you can get...
What is slow for you?
Well, everything is smooth. But i can tell its a little bit more slower than MIUI with 1.2 ghz overclocked.
Like it takes forever or longer than usual to load my Gallery. Or open up an Application..i can tell a difference...but maybe thats just mine :?
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Like it takes forever or longer than usual to load my Gallery. Or open up an Application..i can tell a difference...but maybe thats just mine :?
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MiUi is AOSP based. It's a super lightweight UI. And you're overclocked. so it's going to be blazing fast.
I've said it before and i'm sure i'll say it again. Sense is a Sumo Wrestler in a room full of Super Models. It's a bloated OS, and that will slow things down naturally. Plus the fact that we are only running at 1.0Ghz will slow it down some more. If you've flashed everything and you have a decent amount of memory left. You are about as fast as one can get. I'm using the 3.0 Sense 1.0 and i'm pleased with it. It's not Cyanogen when it comes to speed but the smoothness has won me over. It's kinda like going from Porsche to Lincoln. the performance is lower but it make the ride alot more enjoyable.
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MiUi is AOSP based. It's a super lightweight UI. And you're overclocked. so it's going to be blazing fast.
I've said it before and i'm sure i'll say it again. Sense is a Sumo Wrestler in a room full of Super Models. It's a bloated OS, and that will slow things down naturally. Plus the fact that we are only running at 1.0Ghz will slow it down some more. If you've flashed everything and you have a decent amount of memory left. You are about as fast as one can get. I'm using the 3.0 Sense 1.0 and i'm pleased with it. It's not Cyanogen when it comes to speed but the smoothness has won me over. It's kinda like going from Porsche to Lincoln. the performance is lower but it make the ride alot more enjoyable.
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LOL Seeing you stand up for a non-AOSP ROM is little weird. I feel like it's April Fool's or something. Anyway, to the OP, eventually a stable OC kernel will be made, but you'll lose some battery life. To me, the extra couple milliseconds to open apps is worth it. Let's face it, this is basically an Alpha port, and my goodness it's sweet already. Damn fine job they did. Other than the weird choppy application launcher, I couldn't be more pleased.
Okay I understand, thanks for your time! I appreciate it
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Okay I understand, thanks for your time! I appreciate it
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Dont forget 3.0 is meant for the 1GHz or 1.2GHz "Dual-core" phones, so it probably would be kinda slow on the MT4G, the 2nd gen dragon isn't very old though like the hummingbird.
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LOL Seeing you stand up for a non-AOSP ROM is little weird. I feel like it's April Fool's or something. Anyway, to the OP, eventually a stable OC kernel will be made, but you'll lose some battery life. To me, the extra couple milliseconds to open apps is worth it. Let's face it, this is basically an Alpha port, and my goodness it's sweet already. Damn fine job they did. Other than the weird choppy application launcher, I couldn't be more pleased.
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Oh in sure I'll be back to an AOSP ROM shortly. If they make an overclocking kernel for this ROM it'll be a strong contender.
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Oh in sure I'll be back to an AOSP ROM shortly. If they make an overclocking kernel for this ROM it'll be a strong contender.
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It's already pretty dang fast as it is, but yeah I can only imagine it with a faux-enhanced kernel. What can we do to get him back developing for the MT4G again?
Thats what I wanna be looking forward to...Faux needs to come out with one..soon
YOu know I have ran a variety of Gingerbread prots including ones from virus, even Cyanogen. But for me these leave so little RAM left and it slows my evo down. I currently run Mikfroyo 4.62 because its just optimized stock.
It would be nice to see a highly optimized stock gingerbread that is official gingerbread+ ginger update.
I know alot of like the sense 3.0 lockscreen. I like that to and its the one reason why i sort of see myself switcvhing back to mikg every other day it seems liek adn more often lol. But As for slow downs idk if its the sense 2.1+3.0 elemnts or its just the sense 2.1 that slows down my phone. But it be nice just to see a optimized stock ginger. I know eventualy this might come out. BUt I would rather see a optimized sense 1.0 with 2.1 and 3.0 elements if ever possible due to performance. For me i get major slow downs. It is just teh phones not the developers because they do everything they can and i support each and every one of their works and each developer even if its a simple mod or tweak they do. Its our phones.
But till then I will start to switch over anf flash to mikg every other day to see about performance and start flashing to a few other gingerbread ones. (trust me i flash alot.. my usb port no longer lets me enter hard drive mode only charge on my evo.also tried other cords as well).
I am going to reprot my findings on each of the roms here eventualy and hopefully. But till then.
It would be c ool to see a stock optimizer developer go to work on the rom.
Also performance tweaks for higher sense versions can only go so far. (also battery life isn't an issue becaus eim going for a extended battery eventualy soo that factor doesnt change my opinion on the rom at this point.
Also im not some disgruntled person demanding things or whatever you might think it is, but im just here stating a few things for me and likely the same for a few others. Like i said i support allt eh developers and used alot of ROMS. its not the software in the case of performance for me. Alot of the ginger bread froms are fast just not as performance wise as the froyo version im running. And i do expect some degradation jsut due to a higher OS but i get slow downs just simply scrolling on every rom I have tried (cyanogen i just dont like teh feel of it soo not much performance wise is the reason why i dont use it just the feel)
Till such time i can see a optimized stock ginger + ginger updates I will experiment and report findings also whenever a higher revision comes out of a selecet few roms since software perfomance tweaks do do some good.
Thanks to all teh developers though for all teh hard work. We all appreciate what your doign and the time you spend on it. :}