Optimized stock or a port rom - EVO 4G General

YOu know I have ran a variety of Gingerbread prots including ones from virus, even Cyanogen. But for me these leave so little RAM left and it slows my evo down. I currently run Mikfroyo 4.62 because its just optimized stock.
It would be nice to see a highly optimized stock gingerbread that is official gingerbread+ ginger update.
I know alot of like the sense 3.0 lockscreen. I like that to and its the one reason why i sort of see myself switcvhing back to mikg every other day it seems liek adn more often lol. But As for slow downs idk if its the sense 2.1+3.0 elemnts or its just the sense 2.1 that slows down my phone. But it be nice just to see a optimized stock ginger. I know eventualy this might come out. BUt I would rather see a optimized sense 1.0 with 2.1 and 3.0 elements if ever possible due to performance. For me i get major slow downs. It is just teh phones not the developers because they do everything they can and i support each and every one of their works and each developer even if its a simple mod or tweak they do. Its our phones.
But till then I will start to switch over anf flash to mikg every other day to see about performance and start flashing to a few other gingerbread ones. (trust me i flash alot.. my usb port no longer lets me enter hard drive mode only charge on my evo.also tried other cords as well).
I am going to reprot my findings on each of the roms here eventualy and hopefully. But till then.
It would be c ool to see a stock optimizer developer go to work on the rom.
Also performance tweaks for higher sense versions can only go so far. (also battery life isn't an issue becaus eim going for a extended battery eventualy soo that factor doesnt change my opinion on the rom at this point.
Also im not some disgruntled person demanding things or whatever you might think it is, but im just here stating a few things for me and likely the same for a few others. Like i said i support allt eh developers and used alot of ROMS. its not the software in the case of performance for me. Alot of the ginger bread froms are fast just not as performance wise as the froyo version im running. And i do expect some degradation jsut due to a higher OS but i get slow downs just simply scrolling on every rom I have tried (cyanogen i just dont like teh feel of it soo not much performance wise is the reason why i dont use it just the feel)
Till such time i can see a optimized stock ginger + ginger updates I will experiment and report findings also whenever a higher revision comes out of a selecet few roms since software perfomance tweaks do do some good.
Thanks to all teh developers though for all teh hard work. We all appreciate what your doign and the time you spend on it. :}

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[SOLVED] Best fast and stable ROM right now?

Hi, I'm looking for the best fast and stable ROM right now.
Cyanogen is definitely not on the list. Since he started mixing in eclair (and stopped releasing separate stable and bet builds) all his releases have really been beta-releases, and not stable one. Especially the missed SMS/background process bug disqualifies it on its own, and it is aslo slower(!) than the eclair roms, t.e.x OpenEclair.
Eclair builds are also not on the list. Right now I want something that "just work", and until video camera and video playback is working (eg. when we get drivers) I will keep testing them , but want something different for everyday use.
It is important that it has a serious dev who listens to bug reports (an issue tracker would be a big plus), and builds from source, or at least tests properly, and not some new (or old) hotshot who just slaps different stuff from different sources together and hope they work.
So, anyone have a favorite you think suits me?
edit: A good chabgelog/specification of what is actually in the ROM is *mandatory*. I really hate looking at a ROM thread and wondering "And wtf is in this?"
Post in Q&A section next time, and try Dwang's ROM I haven't used it yet, but people that have used it say it's fast.
Why should this be in Q&A instead of general? (Almost) Every thread in general is a question about something or the other.
Try WG-Build 2.6 for a day or so.
theofficials, or the vodafone port with htc features (15th feb version) imo are the fastest, although blandest
This discussion is pointless and it keeps repeating over an over again.
Anyway, my two cents: CM is and will be the best ROM because it has a right balance of speed vs stability. I've tried other "super-fast" ROMs and they all are too unstable - shut downs randomly, force closes, etc.
fasttest without ramhack without issues and force close s. What else would you want
anything that starts with fast or super.....are a +1
after that the only thing that can fall in category would be:
WG Build Y-2.6 (as mentioned above)
and if you can get your hands on a copy Wg's 10.2 is great!
As far as the CM roms go....I'd suggest his older builds 4.2.7.1 and 4.3 to be exact...their outdated but still wonderful, you can port any new apps or framework into if ya don't want to feel left behind.
Super D is blazing fast for me
FastTest v2.7 CustomLite (http://bit.ly/dcLg31)
and
FastClean 1.4 (http://bit.ly/ahf8Gy)
The fastest/most responsive ROMs I've ever used. FastTest is a dark themed SuperD and FastClean is a vanilla rom, both are the same speed IMO.
I was a cyan fan but super D is just stupid fast. I push my home key and my home screen is there within 1/2 a second.
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Anyway, my two cents: CM is and will be the best ROM because it has a right balance of speed vs stability. I've tried other "super-fast" ROMs and they all are too unstable - shut downs randomly, force closes, etc.
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+1.
100% agreed.
The only balance between speed and stability in CM is that it is both unstable and slow. Take a look at this bug for example. Many of the issues that were caused by and consollidated into this bug goes way back.
A stable ROM doesn't loose loads of text and other notifications. CM is not stable, nor has it been since cyanogen started mixing in eclair, and stopped release separate stable and beta builds.
All his builds since then has been laggy and unstable - unless you have a N1, which development effort is currently, and fully understandably, consentrated upon. Seriously, just stop recomending it to anyone. For all the good cyanogen has brought G1 users, his ROM is currently, or at least up until january when I last tried it a POS. And it showed no signs of getting better, either.
Many thanks for the tip about TheOfficials ROMs. Running the ADP based with expansion pack now. It flies, and has been 100% stable th 24hrs I've used it so far. Abduction lags a bit when I run Spotify at the same time and syncing kicks in, but thats to be expected on a Dream.
Will have this as a solid, reliable fallback, eve though I will still probably try other (like the latest OE when they fix BT.)
Thanks for the other tips as well.
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The only balance between speed and stability in CM is that it is both unstable and slow. Take a look at this bug for example. Many of the issues that were caused by and consollidated into this bug goes way back.
A stable ROM doesn't loose loads of text and other notifications. CM is not stable, nor has it been since cyanogen started mixing in eclair, and stopped release separate stable and beta builds.
All his builds since then has been laggy and unstable - unless you have a N1, which development effort is currently, and fully understandably, consentrated upon. Seriously, just stop recomending it to anyone. For all the good cyanogen has brought G1 users, his ROM is currently, or at least up until january when I last tried it a POS. And it showed no signs of getting better, either.
Many thanks for the tip about TheOfficials ROMs. Running the ADP based with expansion pack now. It flies, and has been 100% stable th 24hrs I've used it so far. Abduction lags a bit when I run Spotify at the same time and syncing kicks in, but thats to be expected on a Dream.
Will have this as a solid, reliable fallback, eve though I will still probably try other (like the latest OE when they fix BT.)
Thanks for the other tips as well.
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THe fastest Cyan is 4.2.5 and the current ones are slower than that, I don't use Cyan much I prefer Super-D and Enom's official too.I only used Cyan twice and probably won't be using it again on the Magic, maybe on the N1 though.
im using SuperD, and it is crazy fast. most responsive android rom ever used.
Mghty Max ROM
I'm running Mghty Max's ROM and is very fast and stable I've tried. I haven't had any FC or shutdowns. Very responsive too (I have activated these widgets: calendar, clock & weather, WiFi OnOff, Music, Handcent SMS, Volume Control), even when I'm on WiFi. I Highly recommend it.
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im using SuperD, and it is crazy fast. most responsive android rom ever used.
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Same here... i was a staunch CM flasher... but they seemed to get slow after he got the Nexus One.
I'm happy with SuperD right now... especially with the JIT hack.

I went back to stock rom, for now..

The custom roms for some reason do not compare to the speed of the stock rom.
Just update the radio and stay with stock.
Until the evo kernal source gets released.
Otherwise for now, we are using another phone's source, which is for me, slowing everything down.
good for you. ive been with win mo since 2002 and i IMMEDIATELY customize/reg hack those devices as they needed it.. the touch pro2 was the first handset i really didnt need to hack into.. it was built pretty good for me and my lifestyle...
the evo... i see no reason to hack into it at this time. with the way linux manages the RAM and programs under the hood, there is no need in MY case to do anything... it runs just great stock.
so bravo to you sir for going against the grain and staying pretty much stock..
kthejoker20 said:
The custom roms for some reason do not compare to the speed of the stock rom.
Just update the radio and stay with stock.
Until the evo kernal source gets released.
Otherwise for now, we are using another phone's source, which is for me, slowing everything down.
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if that makes you happy go for it ! but i have to ask why's it slowing things down for you ? the flipz Dc rom is fast has hell for me any ways
kthejoker20 said:
The custom roms for some reason do not compare to the speed of the stock rom.
Just update the radio and stay with stock.
Until the evo kernal source gets released.
Otherwise for now, we are using another phone's source, which is for me, slowing everything down.
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I have to agree.
I use the stock with root rom the only difference is root permissions theres no lag or increased battery drain on my evo
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Use odexed damagecontrol rom and set dconfig to equal battery and performance. Tell me that dieabt compare. You can set to battery saver and easily double battery lif too
I think deodexed roms are slower even tho ppl say no they feel it to me
Custom ROMs beat the pants off the stock ROM at everything. Your loss.
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The stock rom was terribad slow compared to everything else I tried.
I don't see how you came to these results.
Also, HTC Sense is the cancer killing Android.
kthejoker20 said:
The custom roms for some reason do not compare to the speed of the stock rom.
Just update the radio and stay with stock.
Until the evo kernal source gets released.
Otherwise for now, we are using another phone's source, which is for me, slowing everything down.
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I don't know what you're doing wrong but I couldn't agree less. That stock rom is a sloppy bloat-ware filled lag fest.
The source may be for another phone but it's for an identical platform. Sure, there is some slightly different hardware but that's mostly taken care of in the board files so far as I understand it.
Either way, take this anecdotal evidence as you will but I first flashed Fresh 0.2. Things got smoother and snappier. More free memory, longer lasting battery, more responsive interface. Then I tried out various Froyos. All very faster, awesome performance. That 30fps/screenlag problem seems more apparent when the OS is hauling that much ass, but no big deal. I tried froyo with a low-voltage OC kernel and put it up to 1.2ghz min/max with screen on, and 128mhz min/max screen off. The performance was amazing and the battery life was even better than ever. Given my moderate usage pattern I could have easily taken this 'charge daily' phone and made it a 'charge every other day' phone. Bugless Beast was also really fast and relatively battery sipping for me.
I don't know where you are coming from man, but all of the hard work from all of the devs here has had immediate positive impact on every aspect of my Evo experience...sure, there are a couple experimental hacks that make some strange **** happen, but it's usually pretty obvious what those are and why.
Now I just put Fresh 0.3 on last night, the performance is top notch. The battery life seemed to drain rather quickly but I also left the 55fps Nova screen hack on all night to test it out, which I haven't been doing. So today I charged to 100% with the stock kernel, wiped the battery stats and I'm going to see how that works. Worst-case scenario it's something in fresh 0.3 and I'll just continue to bounce between baked desert, fresh 0.2 and BB4.
Either you are doing it wrong or there is actually something hardware-wrong with your phone.
Try again man, it works great for me.
i'm still stock myself but i do have root with unrevoked. i don't have a need to use a custom rom yet and i am definately waiting until froyo 2.2 comes before i do as that will be a game changer... i came from a at&t tilt that had a custom winmo 6.5 rom and the evo blows it out of the water, so i am enjoying my stock evo at the moment...
nothing wrong with flashing though to a different rom, its whatever floats your boat, some people flash as soon as they can, others wait and some never do... choice is great...
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nothing wrong with flashing though to a different rom, its whatever floats your boat, some people flash as soon as they can, others wait and some never do... choice is great...
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I rooted mine in the Radio Shack parking lot at 6am, lol.
But I agree with you, do what works best for you.

[Q] [POLL]Which Gingerbread Rom are you Running?

Hi
Since there has been lot of activity in the Development of Gingerbread Rom for our Heroes( thanks to the wonderful Dev's).
Just wanted to find the popular as the days go by
good call
it does make sense to do it this way
I'm on ele right now. cronos is great but a couple of bug fixes still needed before I'm 100% happy. ele's is quite amazing. want to try tasty but waiting for known a2sd fix and I'm unfortunately not a fan of almost pure aosp. Some cm things are really useful like notification bar power widget etc.
wow over hundred views and not much votes... is it that people aren't using gingerbread roms?
I think I just wore out everybody's voting fingers in my all encompassing rom poll started a few weeks ago.
hahaha
I tried CM7, elelinux and TastyGinger and honestly i am gonna switch back to froyo. Within first hour or so, ROM works pretty good but as soon as i sync with Google (for contacts) and send/receive some text messages, keyboard slows down, my messaging slows down.
for now none ... waiting for a good custom rom, the final version.
I'm waiting for Feeyo to come back with his kernel in Cronos GB rather than Flykernel.
wow - ele's gb is great, totally finished feeling. tasty's pretty amazing from what I've read. cronos is possibly the most complete and really great too. cm nightlies are iffy as always - they're nightlies and that's how nightlies work - but beta3 or whatever his last official one was (lox) was pretty cool.
time to weigh froyo's speed but constant market issues and older features versus gingerbread's great features but slower UI speed.
I've used CM7 but it got lag too much xD....
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time to weigh froyo's speed but constant market issues and older features versus gingerbread's great features but slower UI speed.
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you should really try cronos ginger instead of re-posting somewhere read bullsh.t. i'm using CG1.0.1 since it was released and there is no single problem at all.
which market issues are you talking about?
I'm back on cronos. ele's gps let me down big time for some strange reason (app locked up, couldn't quit, restarting phone bootlooped LoL).
I used the Elinux 2.3 and its great..
The Tasty is faster but the screen resolution still not compatible with beautifull gidget...
So i return to elinux!
Ele's hasn't let me down at all, only problems i had were due to me xD nice and snappy, stable. ^^
I have used 0.9 cronos and ele's one like bot of them but I seem to have issues with Gingerbread roms in general
Basically after a while the bottom keyboard Keys dont seem to work , an I have to press really hard. or not work at all
But works perfect If I flash original 2.1 rom so am back on the official ROM
But if new rom comes out I do a quick adb root and try em I love the excitment of rom flashing
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I have used 0.9 cronos and ele's one like bot of them but I seem to have issues with Gingerbread roms in general
Basically after a while the bottom keyboard Keys dont seem to work , an I have to press really hard. or not work at all
But works perfect If I flash original 2.1 rom so am back on the official ROM
But if new rom comes out I do a quick adb root and try em I love the excitment of rom flashing
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uh oh. gb might get warmer which is showing teh beginning of a touchscreen hardware issue with your phone probably.
definitely stay away from hot running roms on that phone
I have used the 5th and 9th nightlies of CM7 so far. Build 5 was slow in some areas, particularly with LauncherPro (I removed ADW because I honestly don't like it), but it was otherwise usable in day-to-day situations. Build 9 is significantly better so far; the only thing that would make me completely happy with it would be fully-working on/off animations (if it's possible on Hero hardware).
I wondered why there is no further development on the camera function for GB. I had tried the latest Elelinux GB and then Cronos GB. The camera pictures captured were just terrible (colour almost washout)! Camera on Froyo is still fairly good and very useable. Otherwise, GB really offers something nice for our Hero. Too bad for the camera (on GB), I'm back to Erasmux's Floyo again.
Elelinux is by far the best GB ROM.
I think Elelinix is great enough.........
Using the brand new Cronos Gingerbread 1.1.0 (the non animation version)
Sooooo fast now.

ROMs... bugs... where to go from here?

Is there any true bugless/very minimally bugged ROM out there? Tried CM6, CM6, Evervolv, and some others. I'm talking something that can be fully fixed if there are bugs in it, or is there a ROM that will basically be a stock evo with the sprint garbage removed from it, i was wondering maybe I could stick a savagedzen kernel on it and get some better speed from it as well with bettery battery life. I know there is a fresh evo but I don't think that this ROM gets rid of the junkware sprint puts on? Since quadrant scores and the like are mostly useless I'm beginning to even wonder, are you "truly" getting any more speed out of a custom ROM over stock without getting bugs?
Right now I'm on CM7, everything is wonderful, of course except for the bugs. The random 3g -> 1x for no reason, making the internet not even usable. The random mini-lockups/terrible lag that I can get, etc are all just too annoying to deal with when they pop up. It's irritating when I go to my friends and say "here check this out, this thing has more battery life and as fast a he-...oh well actually my internet on it is bugging out right now and the lockscreen I have to really quick reboot for etc etc." What's the point of speed if these sort of things happen, you know? All of the flashiness of gingerbread is starting to urk me with all the bugs it brings, I haven't tried a froyo mod except for myns, I don't remember what kind of bugs I had in that, if any. What's the best way to go from here? Maybe give CM6 a try again and put SZen kernel on it?(I only ever tried it with stock) Thanks for any opinions/sorry for the mini text wall.
Newsflash: CM7 is buggy, and has always been buggy, hence the ever updated releases.
If you want a ROM that's as close to 100% stable as you can find, try the bigger Sense ROM's....
Are there any very stable AOSP ROMs? Especially gingerbread? Or do these only truly become stable when the real releases are out for the phones? Because If that's not the case, why not just run stock, you know? What's the real benefit? The only reason I rooted in the very beginning was to get rid of the junk Sprint has attached in the beginning. I don't mind sense. However ever since I've rooted I've been on a speed/battery hunt thinking I could get something majorly different. Is it even worth it? What is CM6 like with savagedzen for instance? Because that's what I'm thinking of trying next. Or are all AOSP going to have pretty hefty bugs with them one way or another due to the nature of them?
So far the new ports of the Shift roms are solid as a rock. Misfits for stock. Kings for some ultra themed ones and Zone23 for blue.
Give them a try you won't regret disappointed.
Try Misfits Speedy Port. Pretty stable with Sense 2.1. I'm making a rom based on that one that is stripped down, but not allowed to post dev forums yet
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Try Misfits Speedy Port. Pretty stable with Sense 2.1. I'm making a rom based on that one that is stripped down, but not allowed to post dev forums yet
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What are you gaining over a stock evo, though. Compared to this?
Years ago the phones were slow and bloated. You could install custom ROMs and actually notice an increase in speed.
With the phones coming out now they are already fast and if you root to look for a speed increase you might not notice much. You will notice all the bloatware gone though.
For a stable ROM I would look for a 2.2 Calk ROM or ones like that. They may not have been updated in awhile but that's because there isn't much to add or change. Everything works.
What about myns?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
See I don't understand why the call them "release [clients?]", and then release a "full version", even when the full version is still buggy with devices. I stayed away from CM7 for that exact reason until they finally got the full version up. Once I stuck it on i was enjoying it so much but the bugs are just too annoying to deal with anymore. Can't even show off with it because of them popping up at the dumbest times and then it's like yeah so much for that awesome phone hack. I might go try myn's again or CM6, not sure. I just want the stock apps gone, and I want a stable environment. Speed is nice too. Being unique is nice, when it doesn't have huge drawbacks.
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What about myns?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
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The more and more I think about it I don't remember having too many issues with myn's, so I may try that out again. Not sure. Is there any way to get that gingerbread lock off/on animation? That is something I'm really after, along with the gingerbread keyboard too.
On the sense side, I've found Koni's elite series III to be flawless...I'm currently running ava's ginger sense and haven't had any real issues with it either... can't go wrong with either of those.. just my two cents..
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No smart phone to date is bug free. Cm7 stable is best in my opinion and that 3g/1x bug you speak of isn't a bug but cm7 actually giving you the accurate data speed in the area you are in.
What recovery are u using amon 2.3 wipes fix most issue.when flashing like crazy I haven't had any issues with the roms . Sense or cm7 work fine. Try Elite 3 , Kings out of this world. Um to many to list. Always do a full wipe when flashing new roms.
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No smart phone to date is bug free. Cm7 stable is best in my opinion and that 3g/1x bug you speak of isn't a bug but cm7 actually giving you the accurate data speed in the area you are in.
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I know there isn't a "bug free" ROM or phone. But in terms of crippling bugs, CM7 at the moment for me is horrifying when I'm trying to show it to others especially.
As for the 3g/1x bug it is very real, and it's the worst. I get 1x for no reason inside my house and outside on occasion, it will then switch back to 3g if I restart the phone, or wait [sometimes an absurdly long time] until it fixes itself. I've not had that issue with any other ROMs, stock evo, gingerbread ROMs, or anything of the like. I've reflashed completely fresh with and without the GPS fix, with savagedzen and stock - no difference. Maybe it's just my phone, regardless though, there are so many people asking for help on different areas of CM7 it makes me not want to bother because it is not a truly stable rom for Evo for a lot of people. The battery charger bug I can deal with, mine lags to high hell when it's on the charger - that's something I can fix within an instant and not have it bother me. As for the 3g/1x, the random app mini freezes, the lockscreen not wanting to come on sometimes unless I hold down the button much longer until I restart, and other things of the sort, i cannot. It's not worth the flashy menus, and really the battery life is nothing near a froyo ROM, not even close. (I don't expect it to be).
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What recovery are u using amon 2.3 wipes fix most issue.when flashing like crazy I haven't had any issues with the roms . Sense or cm7 work fine. Try Elite 3 , Kings out of this world. Um to many to list. Always do a full wipe when flashing new roms.
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I use amon 2.3 as well, and I always full wipe after storing a backup on my comp (complete full wipe)
I played with my friend's stock unrooted evo yesterday and no joke, the thing randomly rebooted in my hands while doing nothing special at all.
With that said, any rom here is more stable than stock, but try SavageMod 1.2.1, most stable 2.3.3 I've tried.
I have to endorse Koni's. I ran it for over a month, until I flashed Giger today to pay with 'til Koni releases v.IV
It's not overly themed, perfectly smooth and everything I needed to work did fine, and not one FC the entire time I ran it.
The setup in my sig is how I had it set up. The only difference now, of course, is the ROM
I like sinister for stability, its V4 now and I can't think of a single issue with it.
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The more and more I think about it I don't remember having too many issues with myn's, so I may try that out again. Not sure. Is there any way to get that gingerbread lock off/on animation? That is something I'm really after, along with the gingerbread keyboard too.
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I always like ava's ROMs for fast and stable - Z4 isn't quite their yet, but give Z3 a shot.
No GB on/off animation mod as of yet, but you can add the GB keyboard to any ROM. There a quite a few diff ones from the themes and apps forum.
Gotta jump in here for some input...
If you just strictly want Sense, I was always a Myn Warm Two Point Two guy.
If you can't live without the screen off animation, Deck's Gingerbread is by far the way to go. Yes, it is built from CM7 to an extent but Deck really does a great job taking care of problems. There is a stable 1.0 and beta 1.2(x). Everyone likes CM7 because its popular and known, but honestly after using CM7 for awhile and then jumping to Deck's rom I will never look back.
If you want to remove the bloat from a stock sprint rom don't forget that you can always just do it by removing the apk's from your system with root explorer or through ADB.
How to through ADB:
--adb remount
--adb shell
-- cd /system/app
--ls
-- Once all the apps show up, you just type: rm <insert the apk name here.apk>
--reboot your phone and BAMMMMM!

Sense 3.5/3.0 compared to 2.1

I am currently running NilsP Business Sense 2.1/3.0 and i was wondering what performence hit i'd take if i plunged straight to 3.5? I used early 3.0 ROMS and they were painfully slow.. I was wondering if they were the same now.
My 3.0 rom is fast. Just doesn't sound like there's a whole lot more to a 3.5 than a 3.0 so I couldn't tell you my experiance as far as speed with 3.5.
Nils Business gingersense 3.0 v2.1
Sorry, but ALL Sense 3.x ROMs drag sorry ass on this device. There's no way to get around it. The software is just too muscular for the device. You end up with a crazy amount of vm being used, and since NAND memory is some pretty slow stuff, the lag becomes something best measured in full seconds.
^^ what he said.
and anyone who claims their 3.0/3.5 roms run "super fast" and "lag free" must never have run a stock incredible lol because the stock inc is how this phone is supposed to run (sense 1.0)...sense 3 is waaaaaaay too laggy. the one thing that always pissed me off is the notification dropdown menu lag. sometimes it would take up to 5 seconds for mine to drop down, even when i was just idling doing nothing. very annoying.
The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.
I thought Joel's Sense 3.0 ROM on this was crazy fast. Then I used a 3.0 ROM on my inc2. Big difference. At the stock clock speed my phone still has no lag on my current 3.5 ROM.
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Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.
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Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.
wildstang83 said:
Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.
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I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.
loonatik78 said:
I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.
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Thanks.
Hope my nose doesn't turn to brown here, but I gotta say I always look forward to your comments and incite on things. Its always something good. I'm nervous that your gonna try my Rom even, lol. But for real I hope you like it. And as always, I look forward to your 'real' input on it.
Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Tzatlacael said:
Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.
wildstang83 said:
Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.
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I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Tzatlacael said:
I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Are you using Conap's Boot Manager?
I this k many of the left over issues present in these roms aren't necessarily the dev abandoning it, but rather they can't fix it, either because it would take too much time or they don't know how/can't figure it out. MMS over Wifi is a big one on the 2.1/3.0 hybrids. I've seen many devs try to fix it but they just can't.
Like Stang said, once a rom reaches Nearly Flawless state, which is everything is fixed minus the persistent issues across all similar based roms, its development is completed. These people don't get paid to sit for hours to make every little thing work on our phone.
I think this fact causes frustration among users, that life isn't kittens and rainbows and we can't have the latest and greatest working like a champ on our aging hardware. Its not the devs fault guys.
Choose CM7 or a sense 1.0 rom if you want stability and speed. Anything else will always have little issues that frustrate you.
As for me, I like to use one of these newer roms until I get frustrated by these little issues, then go back to CM7/1.0, then once I'm bored with that I go back to a newer sense rom... Rinse and repeat
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ok, so I'm running a 3.0 sense rom in the Nils rom I have. There is no lag between home sections. (I don't have the 3d tilt accelerometer feature on of course) and as for the pull down, I will agree, sometimes it does lag, but I hardly ever use the pull down anyway, and my case doesn't make it easy to pull down anyway. I usually go through the menu button/notifications to have the pull down come down. Other than that...what lag is this you speak of? I also don't run a live wallpaper very much in order to help out the battery life a little as well. So maybe thats where some lag people are speaking of is being caused?
Maybe its just me, but I'm not experiancing heavy lag with my 3.0 rom and I am even running the latest kernel. I will agree however, if you want the fastest most optimized rom for a dinc, then get a stock rom of course. But the 3.0 rom I'm running is running smooth.
I'm Running Nil's Sense 3.5, and I love it!!
(if you have tried other Roms, make sure you follow his whole wipe guide in his Sense 3.5 post 1)
I love the speed of this rom! If you are happy with 3.0, stick with it, but I love the way the email looks and works in 3.5 (it's a little snappier, and allows for more customization)
While his 3.0 was pretty fast, I find 3.5 to be just that much faster.
Plus, gets even faster if you use Tiny's Kernel!
but when you compare either 3.0 or 3.5 against 1.0... 1.0 just sucks!
wildstang83 said:
[insert name here] released Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile.
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I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?
PonsAsinorem said:
I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?
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Sure its right here, lol--->
I'm using Nils 3.5, and while there is some lag here and there, its a good, stable, and fairly snappy ROM. I also have V6 Supercharger (way aggressive) and the GingerTiny kernel, and that helps.
Maybe I'm just not expecting as much...I knew it would be slower than stock, but I feel its worth it for the enhancements.
But, to each his (or her!) own.
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