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8125 Audio Output Jack Problems?

I recently have gone through two different Body Glove Sport Stereo headphones with some issues. I can't decide if I have another faulty headset or if the phone audio connector is the issue. The body glove headset is similar to the headset that comes with the 8125, but it looked more comfortable.
The problem I am having is this, the headphones only play in the right side. Messing with the plug on the headset results in some quick burst of audio on the left side and pulling it out a tad gives me some faint left audio and the right side audio goes out completely. It seems the plug and jack don't quite jive... anyone else experience this? It comes with an adapter for the "bigger jack" and upon trying one of my girls iPods, they work fine with the adapter in the mix.
My application is this... I listen to MP3's while riding my motorcycle and the earphones that came with the phone hurt my ears after a while. Plus they don't have the greatest audio quality. Looking for a comfy replacement, but the above issue has me scratcing my head.

Here is a link to the headphones: here

i think...
i think you have the wrong adapter. i tried using the slvrs adapter with my 8125 and it did not work same prob as you. i went to radioshack and got one from there and it did. im most absolutely sure is the inner wiring. what happens is that there's also a connection for a microphone on the 8125 so some adapters dont work.
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~Cingular_8125-559~area~accessories~item~PPCPADPT21.htm
ps my friend got a mono one at radio shack and it worked for him both sides. hes not a audiophile but you get the idea, it has to be the connection of your plug.

The headphones in addition to be being stereo, have the microphone too, I think the paragraph in the page you linked clears up a few questions for me:
Most manufacturers create their devices allowing audio compatibility with only their specific brand headset or headphones. We have designed and engineered several different types of audio adapters to accommodate a variety of devices. Our unique audio adapters give you the freedom to use any standard 2.5/3.5 mm. 3 conductor headset and/or your favorite set of headphones.
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It would seem although the Body Glove headset uses the 2.5mm jack, the internals of the 8125 are off enough that a select few aftermarket stereo headsets with mics will work with the phone. Interesting.

Upon further examination of the jack, it is different than the one that came with the phone. In spite of the BodyGlove being a stereo headet with a mic... just like the one that comes with the phone, the connector is different enough to not with aftermarket stuff I guess. Those dirty rascals!!!
The connector on the left is the one that comes with the 8125, the one on the right is the BodyGlove.

Searched and found this old thread. I went to connect my 8125 Wizard to my cars 3.5 jack using a standard adapter and it only came left channel.
Is there a more cost effective proprietary four-conductor jack to a 3.5 mm converter than posted above at PPC Techs? I was hoping to spend a few dollars.

I'm actually using my old Ngages audio cable to get Stereo sound out of my car stereo. It works but sometimes I can't use the mic on the cell phone to talk.
When it works it's really cool, but otherwise I gotta unplug the cable and use it like a regular phone during phone calls.

Car stereo auxiliary jack silent?

I just got a new car that has an auxiliary jack that says I can play my music from MP3/Ipod players. I bought myself a 3.5 mm cord, plugged it into the HD and the Auxiliary port in the car stereo, but there's no sound.
Is there something else I need to do in order to hook my Blackstone up to my car stereo's Auxiliary jack? I figured the 3.5 mm Auxiliary port would just hook up to the HD's headphone jack as if the stereo would act as headphones. Am I wrong?

With mine, I just plugged the 3.5mm jack into the HD and every sound even phone calls automatically came through the cars speakers.
Try plugging another device with a 3.5mm jack into the car, if there is still no sound the theirs either a setting on the head unit or cable may be faulty.
Here is the cable I used, connected directly to the back of the head unit using RCA connectors.
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=172348

Hmm, does sound (sorry) like a cable problem. I have plugged the HD into external speakers via the 3.5 socket with no problems.
What you are aiming for should work but the cable needs to be right.

You probably have to go to the option on your car stereo. It's just like changing from the fm receiver to the cd player on your car stereo (except you have to go to aux-in).
Look in the car stereo manual how to activate the aux-in option.
If Headsets work fine on your HD this should work as well.
Then it's not a problem with you phone.

Thanks for the replies, everyone. I did switch it to the "Aux" function as opposed to Radio/Satellite/CD/Etc., so I'll see if my son's iPod Touch works or maybe there's something else I have to do with the stereo in the user manual. Otherwise I'll assume the cable is faulty. Hope my wife didn't throw out the packaging just yet! It was just a cheap $7 retractable one I got from Target. Next option is a 3 foot $15 one.

Also, make sure you connected the cable to the aux-in on the stereo and not the aux-out. This isn't always indicated in a clear way (I'm just thinking what it could be).

Timbojames said:
Also, make sure you connected the cable to the aux-in on the stereo and not the aux-out. This isn't always indicated in a clear way (I'm just thinking what it could be).
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Yep, thanks for the input. Luckily it's pretty idiot-proof. It's the manufacturer installed Bose stereo system in a 2009 Nissan Rogue. There's only one input on the front face of the stereo panel labeled "Aux In". And you press a button labeled "AUX" to use it as far as I know. Pretty handy!

i have the same problem with my Alpine stereo,has an AUX Input,Even when i enable aux on the head unit still no sound.Taken it to my local car audio garage and theyre baffled!
Later said to me it could be a faulty HU

Ah, well I am used to after market stereo's with the connections on the back (rca connection).
Sorry that I'm not able to help. Well as long as you get sound through headsets and such it is not a problem with the HD, but I guess you figured that out.

Sadly those RCA's are usually outputs for an amp :'(

I'll test my son's iPod Touch today with the cord and see if his works. If his doesn't work also then I'll try a different 3.5 mm to 3.5 mm cord. If THAT doesn't work then I'll have to assume the stereo is malfunctioning.
Another thing that crossed my mind is what if the headphone jack on the HD doesn't produce enough juice to feed into the stereo. Would that be possible? Although it sounds like others are able to get theirs to work, so I'm assuming the HD puts out enough.
Thanks again for the quick input, everybody!

when you plug the lead into the touchHD, you do get the liitle headfones show up on the topbar of the screen?
you havent muted the media player somehow?
you have removed the 100dB eurolimit on the HD output yes?
vol on the HD is around the 80% on both media player and general system sound?
AUX is actually enabled on the headunit in the car? on my factory fitted headunit, the aux button is switchable between the aux line in and an external cd player... if you have the manual for the headunit, have a look to see if there is this option
the headfone jack on the HD pushes out plenty of power, especially if the 100dB limit is removed (hd tweak or advance config... dont forget to disable audio booster and the EQ as that will really mess up the sound)

scheme elettric microphone and speakers

Hello!
I enabled the aux input of my car radio and wire a cable jacks.
the problem is that when I get a call from my htc hd2, the sound is heard from the speakers but does not work the microphone for conversation because the hd2 course off the microphone of the device active because the headset with microphone.
Is there any way to wire the cable jack (4 pins) and attach a microphone to the cable itself? Some might suggest a scheme electricity?
thanks!
:sorry my bad english

In theory it should work as long as you can get the components and wire the cable correctly. whether or not your mouth would be too far from the microphone might be an issue,

Unfortunately, if I connect the phone jack, hd2 excludes the microphon base to activate the headset that is built, then the conversation can not happen, but I feel he did not hear anything

should understand how the microphone is connected to the headphone series

spippo said:
Hello!
I enabled the aux input of my car radio and wire a cable jacks.
the problem is that when I get a call from my htc hd2, the sound is heard from the speakers but does not work the microphone for conversation because the hd2 course off the microphone of the device active because the headset with microphone.
Is there any way to wire the cable jack (4 pins) and attach a microphone to the cable itself? Some might suggest a scheme electricity?
thanks!
:sorry my bad english
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Depending on where your phone is, you could use a regular 3.5 mm male to male extension going from your radio to the phone. I have mine set up like that and the mic on the phone itself is powerful enough to pick up your voice. I ran a 10ft cable(3.5 mm male to male) from the radio,under the instrument panel, up the side of the door in the molding of the windshield to the sunvisor where my phone is clipped to the visor by the clip on the case. It works fine but you have to adjust the volume between your phone and the radio to find the best combination to avoid major feedback so the caller doesn't hear his own voice echoing in the background. I can't post links yet but if you go to youtube and search "iphone handsfree iphone in car setup" you will see how I did my iphone but I now have the same setup with the Hd2.

keep built-in mic active when 3.5 mm jack is plugged

Hi everyone,
I'm wondering if it's possible to have built-in mic active when a cable is plugged into the 3.5 mmjack. For example...I connect the hd2 to the car stereo and if I get a call i need to disconnect the cable because the built-in mic is inactive.

venz111 said:
Hi everyone,
I'm wondering if it's possible to have built-in mic active when a cable is plugged into the 3.5 mmjack. For example...I connect the hd2 to the car stereo and if I get a call i need to disconnect the cable because the built-in mic is inactive.
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Mine works when I plug mine into my car with a standard 3.5mm stereo cable.
Does the cable you're using have 1 or 2 black stripes on the plug?

i agree, this feature was one of the most pleasant surprises for me with the HD2.
on my kaiser, i used a special HTC headset that had an inline microphone (which i snapped on to my shirt collar) and this headset allowed me to plug in a standard 3.5mm stereo jack, which my car audio was plugged in to. this was the best solution at the time for the kaiser that allowed me to keep all cables connected and be able to use the car's speakers and have a working microphone all at once.
but with the HD2...WOW!!! i plugged in my car stereo's 3.5mm stereo jack straight into the HD2 and put on some music and started driving. a call came in while driving and i just pressed answer because i was still used to my kaiser set up (i had owned the HD2 for less than 24 hours at this point so wasn't quite used to it yet).
i started hearing the other party and i started speaking. and the other party could hear me. and THEN it hit me...i was like, holy hell!!!...what am i speaking in to? how come the other party can hear me?
great features, great phone!

rp-x1 said:
Mine works when I plug mine into my car with a standard 3.5mm stereo cable.
Does the cable you're using have 1 or 2 black stripes on the plug?
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I think it has two stripes since it's a stereo jack. I'm not sure but i think initialy I was able to speak in the car with the leo plugged into the stereo. May be some app I've installed later changed something?!?

the built in mic will stay active unless u have a cable with 4 connections (3 rings on the plug), a regular stereo cable has 2 rings. I've been using this type of setup for a couple of years with my previous phone, a.k.a. iphone. The mic is pretty sensitive and can pick up your voice rather well. I have my hd2 clipped to my sunvisor for easy access and routed the wiring inside the windshield molding down under the dashboard to the stereo and it works pretty good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osLFRLL7qOw

Am I the only one here who tries to use the Epic in a car, in a dock...??

Is anyone else trying to use a dock in their car to listen to music??
I'm on CM7 and when you use the dock in the car.....it removes all bass from the audio stream. Unless my car for some reason doesn't go through it's own amp. when using the "aux" in connection.....
I'm so frustrated at the moment, I bought a phone with all these cool hopes and dreams..
now 1.5 years later, it's ALMOST perfect (no thanks to ****sung) (thanks to DEV's!!) but I go put it in the car dock and the sound is just awful
Just wondering if anyone else has had any success ..

Using stock CM7 kernel or Shadow? From what I understand, bbelos was able to crack the code with Shadow, but maybe the devs were able to port it over to the stock one...
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Using stock CM7 kernel or Shadow? From what I understand, bbelos was able to crack the code with Shadow, but maybe the devs were able to port it over to the stock one...
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I'm using Shadow.
The dock audio works, it just sounds awful, no bass very tinny.
I should add that if you take it out of the dock and plug in an audio cable to the headphones jack and into the aux in of the car it sounds wonderful, full bass great lows and awesome highs.
From what I understand this is something that samsung made the dock do. What a horrible idea on their part.

I use my CM7 Epic in the car all the time. I don't even use the car stereo anymore. When I started using CM7 and realized the audio redirect doesn't work I went back to using what I did before we got Froyo. My stock car stereo doesn't have bluetooth so I bought this:
http://www.amazon.com/BlackBerry-Remote-Stereo-Bluetooth-Gateway/dp/B00170KUM0
It's a bluetooth gateway that uses A2DP to transmit the audio. I also use Tasker to automatically turn on bluetooth when I put the phone in the dock. The phone connects within a few seconds and everything works beautifully. It actually seems to amplify the sound some when using the gateway. I see it's like 90 bucks on amazon now. It was 30 when I bought it so i dunno. You could probably find one cheaper somewhere. But anyway, that's what I do and have had no problems.

using the bluetooth gateway is a good idea. though, imo, A2DP lacks decent quality. I have really only done A2DP streaming with Kensington's LiquidAUX receiver and the Motorola S9 headphones. I would be tempted to try the BB receiver if it was cheaper.
Samsung really dropped the ball on the desk dock. no data when the phone is in the dock while connected to USB? WTF Samsung. I would love to put another one of these in my car if it worked correctly. does the real car dock have the same issues as the desk dock? I am definitely not gonna pay $30+ for a car dock for a phone thats been out 18mo.

JojoSteez said:
I use my CM7 Epic in the car all the time. I don't even use the car stereo anymore. When I started using CM7 and realized the audio redirect doesn't work I went back to using what I did before we got Froyo. My stock car stereo doesn't have bluetooth so I bought this:
http://www.amazon.com/BlackBerry-Remote-Stereo-Bluetooth-Gateway/dp/B00170KUM0
It's a bluetooth gateway that uses A2DP to transmit the audio. I also use Tasker to automatically turn on bluetooth when I put the phone in the dock. The phone connects within a few seconds and everything works beautifully. It actually seems to amplify the sound some when using the gateway. I see it's like 90 bucks on amazon now. It was 30 when I bought it so i dunno. You could probably find one cheaper somewhere. But anyway, that's what I do and have had no problems.
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I actually have a bunch of these, however it just isn't the same sound quality as hard wired.

^yes I agree, BT (A2DP) sound is technically compressed, and combined with a poor DAC, just isn't going to sound as warm as coming directly from the headphone jack (where the DAC has already done its work).
I just spent some time screwing around trying to find the differences in sound between the phone mounted in the dock and using the speaker out, streaming the music over BT with my Kensington LiquidAUX (outputs to 3.5mm), and plugging directly into the phone (w/ Voodoo sound).
Handsdown, best was when hooked directly into the phone. Second place went to the dock, and third was BT. I've just come to the conclusion that Samsung just didn't put any effort into this dock, and the actual DAC inside the dock, just sucks. This is all just going on the assumption that the audio coming out of the USB is digital, and the digital-analog conversion is being done in the dock itself. Seems like the simplest explanation that the output from the USB port is a digital output. My car stereo is a 2008 Mazda Bose system with a 3.5in AUX input.
Now my question is, where can I get a USB-[single]RCA so I can use the phone as a digital output connection with a decent DAC...

dzl said:
^yes I agree, BT (A2DP) sound is technically compressed, and combined with a poor DAC, just isn't going to sound as warm as coming directly from the headphone jack (where the DAC has already done its work).
I just spent some time screwing around trying to find the differences in sound between the phone mounted in the dock and using the speaker out, streaming the music over BT with my Kensington LiquidAUX (outputs to 3.5mm), and plugging directly into the phone (w/ Voodoo sound).
Handsdown, best was when hooked directly into the phone. Second place went to the dock, and third was BT. I've just come to the conclusion that Samsung just didn't put any effort into this dock, and the actual DAC inside the dock, just sucks. This is all just going on the assumption that the audio coming out of the USB is digital, and the digital-analog conversion is being done in the dock itself. Seems like the simplest explanation that the output from the USB port is a digital output. My car stereo is a 2008 Mazda Bose system with a 3.5in AUX input.
Now my question is, where can I get a USB-[single]RCA so I can use the phone as a digital output connection with a decent DAC...
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I actually bought a mini amp for a car just to put inbetween the dock out and my aux in......thinking it'd solve the problem.
Sadly while the sound was awesome, there was a ton of static and other noise even with a ground loop isolator in the mix.
If you figure out a way to get good sounding audio out of the dock while in a car......pleaseee post it up!! For now I guess it's back to bluetooth...it's better then having to manually plug in the sound and power each time i get in....

I just use fm transmitter w/ DSM manager n voodoo control plus, Bass is up bumpin.
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Eh, the BT gateway is not going to give you the same as hard wired. Nothing will beat hardwired. I don't notice enough difference for it to matter, although my car is all stock. I'm big into home stereo, but never cared to spend the money in my car. I don't spend enough time in there to justify it. But to each his own, just a suggestion. Mine sounds better to me through BT than the dock, but that could be something with my stereo.
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J3ff said:
...it's better then having to manually plug in the sound and power each time i get in....
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This is my main reason for the BT gateway. It defeats the purpose of having a dock, if I have to plug in cable separately. Now I just throw the phone in the dock, slide the connector over, start whatever music app I feel like using and I'm on my way.

Are you using the stock radio in your car? The Epic dock output is not amplified, so if the input on your stereo is made for a amplified output (headphone output for example) then you will have a tinny sound.
Most aftermarket receivers will work with both unamplified outputs and amplified outputs, for example on my Pioneer MVH-P8200BT there is not much difference between with the dock and straight from the headphone output (without Voodoo Sound of course).

tbob18 said:
Are you using the stock radio in your car? The Epic dock output is not amplified, so if the input on your stereo is made for a amplified output (headphone output for example) then you will have a tinny sound.
Most aftermarket receivers will work with both unamplified outputs and amplified outputs, for example on my Pioneer MVH-P8200BT there is not much difference between with the dock and straight from the headphone output (without Voodoo Sound of course).
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yes that's the problem.
I'm in a lexus is350 awd ..
I assume that the AUX in for some reason doesn't run through the car's amplifier ??

tbob18 said:
Are you using the stock radio in your car? The Epic dock output is not amplified, so if the input on your stereo is made for a amplified output (headphone output for example) then you will have a tinny sound.
Most aftermarket receivers will work with both unamplified outputs and amplified outputs, for example on my Pioneer MVH-P8200BT there is not much difference between with the dock and straight from the headphone output (without Voodoo Sound of course).
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So you can confirm that the sound is just as good as the headphone out? I have been on the fence about getting a dock, i have an older Pioneer deck & its sound is grate with the headphone jack.
also does any one know of a way to get voodoo with the dock, or is that just imposable?

zman519 said:
So you can confirm that the sound is just as good as the headphone out? I have been on the fence about getting a dock, i have an older Pioneer deck & its sound is grate with the headphone jack.
also does any one know of a way to get voodoo with the dock, or is that just imposable?
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According to supercurio, at least regarding my transformer, it is all about the headphone jack hardware that is why bt output does not get voodoo controls on og transformer, i assume the same is true with epic..

J3ff said:
yes that's the problem.
I'm in a lexus is350 awd ..
I assume that the AUX in for some reason doesn't run through the car's amplifier ??
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It definitely runs through the amplifier, however it is probably calibrated for a headphone output and not a Line-Out output. The only time I have experienced the "tinny" sound is if I hook up headphones to the dock.
zman519 said:
So you can confirm that the sound is just as good as the headphone out? I have been on the fence about getting a dock, i have an older Pioneer deck & its sound is grate with the headphone jack.
also does any one know of a way to get voodoo with the dock, or is that just imposable?
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As I said, on my system there is little difference.. Granted, the speakers I have are not exactly high-end, they are aftermarket and better than most stock speakers.
I have confirmed this by testing the dock on my Monitors. Volume and sound is very close. On my monitors the dock is a bit louder, not quite as clear with a bit too much midbass and over-emphasized highs - slightly compressed sounding. Lower bass levels are nearly identical.
I do not notice this in my car whatsoever. But my monitors cost 5x as much as the component set in my car, so that is expected.
As far as I know there is no way to use Voodoo Sound with the dock.

I have the CleanGB ROM installed and use the stock car dock. I get perfect audio output to my car stereo using a 3.5mm mic -to- RCA cord.

haas599 said:
I have the CleanGB ROM installed and use the stock car dock. I get perfect audio output to my car stereo using a 3.5mm mic -to- RCA cord.
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reallyyyyy and lots of bass? stock car stereo ??

Stock Epic / stock stereo
I have (almost) completely stock Epic (only non-rooted GPS_Fix.zip) and stock stereo (Lexus ES350) and Samsung Car Dock. I use the Dock Sound Redirect app from the Market to direct sound from E4G thru USB to dock stereo phone jack to Aux in on car stereo. The overall sound is fine; not the same as a high-end home stereo but as good as the car stereo & CD. The volume is slightly lower due to non-amped input. Nav audio also runs through this route. Perhaps the issue is stock vs CM7? The Sammy Car Dock works fine for me with the Sound Redirect app.

J3ff said:
I'm on CM7 and when you use the dock in the car.....it removes all bass from the audio stream. Unless my car for some reason doesn't go through it's own amp. when using the "aux" in connection.....
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J3ff, I feel your pain. I bought the Epic shortly after it came out, and the car dock about a year ago. There's a world of difference in audio quality between the headphone jack and the USB audio output that the dock uses. I've used the dock on Froyo, Gingerbread, stock and custom ROM's, it doesn't matter. Haven't tried Shadow kernel on CM7 yet.
The problem becomes even more apparent if you're using something like Voodoo Sound, which affects the headphone jack output but not the USB audio output. I believe Voodoo (and probably DSP Manager, etc., but I can't confirm that) affect the audio on the DAC on the headphone jack, but since the process of converting audio for the USB output is different (and it's not using the Wolfson WM8994 as far as I know)...
I ended up reverting to a $5 cheapo generic car dock that attaches to an A/C vent so I could still use the headphone jack for audio output

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J3ff, I feel your pain. I bought the Epic shortly after it came out, and the car dock about a year ago. There's a world of difference in audio quality between the headphone jack and the USB audio output that the dock uses. I've used the dock on Froyo, Gingerbread, stock and custom ROM's, it doesn't matter. Haven't tried Shadow kernel on CM7 yet.
The problem becomes even more apparent if you're using something like Voodoo Sound, which affects the headphone jack output but not the USB audio output. I believe Voodoo (and probably DSP Manager, etc., but I can't confirm that) affect the audio on the DAC on the headphone jack, but since the process of converting audio for the USB output is different (and it's not using the Wolfson WM8994 as far as I know)...
I ended up reverting to a $5 cheapo generic car dock that attaches to an A/C vent so I could still use the headphone jack for audio output
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Just flip the dock upside down.