Database Users

Push-email now available

Hi,
I'm rather excited to announce the very early stage alpha release of my push-email client which has been an ongoing fun project of mine ever since I dumped my Blackberry for an i-mate Jam (actually I went via a Treo with Chatter which was almost as good as the Blackberry).
What I have implemented is a IMAP transport which supports the IDLE extension. Therefore if you mail server provides IMAP access (many do) you can probably have push-email on your Pocket PC without running exchange and without any intermediaries. And obviously as this is IMAP, all new email and changes are synchronized both directions on your desktop and your PDA. This is only a 'transport' and so you will still use Outlook (or any other MAPI client) as your user-interface.
Now a few comments:
The code is in a pretty early stage, but I have personally been running it for a while now without any problems. I know of a few bugs, and will put up a bug-tracker sometime over the next couple of days; in the meantime, please post here for help and bug reports.
I have tested the IMAP implementation against a few different servers, but there might be some issues. Please post here if you have problems and I'll provide you with a debug version which will allow you to help me diagnose the problem.
A few of the main limitations of the current release: 1) only incoming email (sending is now my top priority for the next release); 2) only one mailbox (and it must be your INBOX) can be synchronized; 3) no attachments at the moment.
Battery life of your PDA will obviously be limited, as a socket connection is kept open. However, I have personally found there to be very little difference under normal usage.
Clearly you need to have a 'data plan' from your provider, and under normal usage the IMAP client will be transmitting data on a regular basis. So if you pay per MB, this is going to cost you. I have been careful to keep this to an absolute minimum, but it will obviously depend on how much email you receive. In 'idle' mode (i.e. with no incoming or outgoing email), the traffic will be less 0.5kB per hour.
There is no particular reason why this shouldn't run on other Pocket PCs. However as I have only tested it on my i-mate Jam, I'll have to leave that up to the patient and brave for the moment (if you do try and have problems, please post or email me, as I'm hoping to provide support for as many phones as possible including Smartphones).
I will eventually support WM5. Why bother as there is already push-email provided with WM5? Because this way you don't have to have an Exchange email server!
So enough from me. If you're still willing to give this ago, I'd very much appreciate your feedback. I've put the downloads and some brief installation instructions here:
http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/
Hope this works for you!
Geoff.

Hi, the 512bytes an hour sounds good, but some providers 'round up' the data, im not sure what rules they follow, and by how much or how often. But you may find that it ends up being 100k an hour because of this rounding.
Does anybody know how to find out the rounding rules for networks in the UK such as Orange and O2 ?

FWIW, T-mobile UK don't round and simply compute the 'total' over a full month.

I'm verry glad I live in The Netherlands. T-mobile NL has a flat rate plan for GPRS/WIFI/UMTS only €9,50 without limitations, even no fair use. As much data as you want. The only limitation is the max. bandwith for UMTS (64KB). Doesn't matter since the MDA has no UMTS.
Greetz,
Giovanni

Hi geoffreycross,
This could be what I'm waiting for. But i cannot get it to work properly. First installed it to storage following your steps and got an error that it couldn't get a socket. After soft-reset I got the error that it couldn't open MAPI interface. Reinstalled it to main, recreated the mailaccount in different orders nothing changed. Errorlog is greyed out, so please send some debug code.
I'm on flatfee TMO, so the data costs or no problem.
Looking forward to your answer,
M

oltp:
I have PM-ed you with a debug version. I forget my email address on the original post. If you have bugs, you will get the fastest turnaround if you email them to [email protected]
The transport can definitely not be installed onto a storage card and I would recommend trying. I'm not sure about the client executable, but I doubt it (and it's pretty small anyway!). I am surprised it worked at all. However the problem does not sound like it is related to the storage card. I'll give a full diagnosis when I see the debug trace.
Geoff.

Well played
only just installed this program, seems to work with Leeds Uni imap accounts. excellent solution to a much overlooked inconvenience.
Who needs BlackBerry with this little gem.
Cheers

Geoff, this looks great! Thanks for your efforts! Question I have is how this solution differs from the existing functionality in the built-in mail client to connect and get mail every x minutes? My understanding is that this is still a pull solution driven by the pocketpc keeping an open socket and querrying the IMAP server on a regular intervals. Am I missing the obvious here? Regards & Thanks

Edited to remove duplicate post. Have no clue how I did that. Apologies.

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GREAT WORK!
Make it works with Gmail and Yahoo Mail and it'll become GREATER!
Keep up the good work

I've got a problem with WebIS Mail 2
I can't choose vgsmail (choice is between POP3 and IMAP) there :
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Is there a way to make it possible ?

k_kirk said:
Geoff, this looks great! Thanks for your efforts! Question I have is how this solution differs from the existing functionality in the built-in mail client to connect and get mail every x minutes? My understanding is that this is still a pull solution driven by the pocketpc keeping an open socket and querrying the IMAP server on a regular intervals. Am I missing the obvious here? Regards & Thanks
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There is an extension to IMAP called IMAP IDLE which I am using. In this mode, you keep the socket open but you don't need to actually do any polling as the server pushes messages down the socket as soon as they arrive. So when a message arrives you will generally receive it within seconds, and when no message arrives there is no data being sent in either direction (with the exception of a keep-alive message very 30 minutes or so). This is exactly how Blackberry and push-email with WM5 works (although they use their own proprietary protocols which require you to use their servers).

DocteurN:
I have just tried out WebIS2, and it seems that they don't use the standard 'MAPI' interface for email (this is slightly surprising and disappointing as the API is designed to be available to 3rd parties). Therefore my transport won't work currently with WebIS. I'm going to have a look and see if I can reverse engineer their storage format and if I can I will be able to support WebIS. In the meantime, I'm afraid you will have to use the built-in Pocket Outlook.
Geoff.

FOSA:
Unfortunately gmail and Yahoo both provide POP but no IMAP which means that you're back to polling on a regular schedule (and that is not 'push-email' really). There are a number of groups trying to pressure Google and Yahoo to implement IMAP support (apparently it is the most requested feature of gmail).
In the meantime, have you considered using a mail provider like www.fastmail.fm which would pull email from the various servers and provide IMAP access to them all?
Geoff.

Isn't this how Seven (Smartner) works?
http://alwaysonmail.com/

BaldBoy said:
Isn't this how Seven (Smartner) works?
http://alwaysonmail.com/
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Yes and no.
Seven does use IMAP, but the connection is made via an intermediary server owned by Seven and your PPC will then connect to the Seven server using a unspecified protocol. Therefore you need to give them your userid and password. The code I have written connects directly to your own mail server and cuts out the 'middle man'. To be honest, I have no idea why Seven implemented it this way (other than to allow them to charge a yearly subscription).

Suggestion
Using the software, so far seems excellent but I've noticed two things so far:
- The setting to only pull messages within X days doesn't seem to work, it's downloading all the messages
- When you connect to the server after losing GPRS connection for a while, when it reconnects it displays new email message despite them not being new. Would you be able to limit the new email message to unread emails only?
Cheers for this excellent application, your effort is much appreciated

herman3101:
1) Yes, there are a number of settings which are currently ignored. The size limit of the initial download is also ignored. I have these on the bug-fixes list. The date limit on the downloads is slightly more complicated as the synchronizing is now constantly happening and so it might appear a bit strange if your messages suddenly disappear as their age 'expires'. I will think about that one.
2) Yes, the 'new email' notifications are a bit screwy. I will fix that asap.

hi geofreeygross
hi. this push email idea is excellent. despite your warning about wm2005. i still install on it and it doesnt work. my inbox when create a new account. i can see your mail option but after finish creating. the account doesnt appear and gprs cannot connect anymore after that. hard reset again. i really hope u will release a beta version for me to test. thank you.

hi. you said that wm2005 already support push email but need the exchange server. how to do that? i need to suscribe to who? is it free? thanks

FREE EXCHANGE MAIL SERVICE FOR POCKETPC w/ DIRECT PUSH MAIL (reopened)

Free exchange mail service for your pocket pc with Outlook Web Access
I run an exchange server and I am welcoming pocketpc users that are in need of an exchange account to activesync with. This service also offers Direct Push for those of you that have have this on your PocketPC. As well as the ability to sync all of your contacts, calander events, and task wirelessly onto your Outlook desktop instantly.
Its totally free and has outlook web access, to sign-up simply point your browser to http://www.port88.org/signup.php, enter your desired account information and I will have your account ready within 24hrs. I even provide documentation on how to setup your wizard or other pocketpc device.
NOTICE: Lots of users have been asking if they can have an alias setup so that it looks like they are sending from thier personal email address (ie gmail, hotmail, yahoo ect..) and the answers is YES! With each account you can have an alias setup so that your recipents see your email address as anything you like! In order to keep this service alive, it is asked that you donate $15.00 USD in order to use this Email Alias service.
If you have/are signing up, it can take up to 48 hours for me to get your account activated. Please make sure to check your junk-mailbox for a confirmation email and then a activation notice! A lot of people are signing up and not activating thier accounts, if you do not activate it with in 3 days it will get deleted, so make sure to check your junk/bulk mail folders so you do not miss the notice of activation which contains your user information.
If you are intrested in other services or want more information, check out http://www.port88.org
This is something I do in my spare time for fun, so it may take me 48 hours before I get you set up. But being a Wizard/MDA user myself, I have found this to be a great tool.
Obviously all this cost money, and lots of it. I have had a few people donate to the cause which has been a great help. But some users ask me for special features that I normally would not offer to a basic user. Well the solution is simple, if more people donate (even a small ammount) I will be able to upgrade the server with more space and better processing power, and in turn more services will be free for everyone to use.
So if you like the service and feel that you can contribute, please send paypal payments to [email protected]
If you think you can donate in other ways (I currently looking for a forum site to be set up), please send me an email!
Keep our community growing, join today!
AK
PS - This time around it's a no nonsence approach that I am taking, so please do not waste my time. Additionally if you find that my emails are short in response, please know that I am not trying to be an ass, I just have a lot on my plate.
REGISTRATION ARE BACK OPEN - June 1st, 2007

awww how sweet!

hey just sent you an email
thx

hey he set it up for me
its working great

What is...
Sorry but what is an exchange server? How will it help me? Thanks for explaining.

not sure how this is supposed tp work but i did send an email and so far nothing. am i missing something here.

Austindkelly,
Thanks for the offer ! How does your service differ from Mail2Web live then ?
I might be interested ...
Cheers
Mark

Don't fall on this!!! Never give personal information over the internet.
:evil: Everyone must be smart enough to notice that this a trap!!

First of all this is totally legit, I do this in my spare time so it might take me a day or so to respond. If you send me an email about signing up, please include the username you would like. If you feel unsafe about sending your 'personal information' dont send me an email, as I will need your Name and a prefered username to sign you up, if you think this is too reveling, do not sign up for anything, or send an email, or use the internet in general. And please do not complain if it takes me more than a few hours to respond, this is free, so chill!

cmarti said:
Don't fall on this!!! Never give personal information over the internet.
:evil: Everyone must be smart enough to notice that this a trap!!
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I am guessing that you are one of those hyper sensative people who don't like having your ssn on your driver's license either? Seriously get a grip and check out his website.
By the way...awesome service.. He sends out emails when the server is going down and gives alot more Customer Support then one of these other free places I am sure.

thank you!

Speaking of which Austin...can i get my login info again Being the dummy i am I never wrote down my password and reflashed my phone :-D sorry to be such a pain.

I want to retract from what i said Austin is providing an excelent service.
PROVEN!
Sorry, Austin :roll:

it's been a few days, just checking to make sure you didn't need anymore information from me to get set up.
Thanks,
Zak Deutsch

i'd be more concerned with my private and business emails being handled and stored on an unknown server.. but if you guys use your mail for fun, jump on this offer!

i sent the email a few days ago and havent recieved anything. am i doing something wrong Austin?? Should i resend??

Not trying to disrespect but what is the difference between this service and mail2web.com??

Okay guys, If you sent me an email I prob did get it! but the odds are that when i replied it got sent to your junkmail (I know yahoo does this) so check there, if you have not recieved anything from me, shoot me an instant message on here, and we can do it that way!
If you have concerns about privacy or hosting information on unknown servers, you should never, ever, ever use the internet again! even google stores the searches you make on some unknown server, and have you ever actually seen a server that host your email ? prob not. But just to reassure all of you skeptics, my server uses 128bit encryption and runs out of Richmond Virginia in a small office building.
As for whats the difference between this and mail2web, well Im assuming that you are using mail2web if you are asking this, so i will just tell you of the additional features:
1) direct push email support
2) sync with outlook web access
3) sync all contacts, events, tasks and email automatically
4) email alias addresses
there is more, but those are the main reasons that i set it up.
I have over a hundred people signed up and still going strong, so if you are intrested, registration is still open so shoot an email to [email protected] and dont forget to check out www.port88.org for more information.
AK

I thought Mail2Web Live supported Push Email? :?:

..... being an Exchange Admin myself, exchange has been setup in my corp so that admins can read everyone's emails if need be... not that i do
Just hope you lot know this when using this service....

Push email recommendations?

I'm getting a Hermes, mainly for the push mail function. Although the problem is that I don't have access to an Exchange server, so I was wondering what services other people use and how they rate them. As I've mentionned in another post, I have a GMail account, and I'd like to try and keep that, although if need be I would be willing to setup another e-mail account.
Many thanks,
Dave

I use www.4smartphone.net and find it amazing. You have to pay a small fee to sign up but it is well worth it.
Mark

Am I right in thinking that I can't use that with my GMail account?

You can forward your gmail account to your exchange account. Gmail has an option to save mail on their server and forward at the same time. I do that.
I use Exchange hosting from http://www.1and1.com they'r reliable and cheapest. $20 for 3 months.
~Karanbir

1and1 has a cheap exchange server if you have a domain. (so like 5 a year for the domain plus whatever their exchange server cost).
It worked but I started to hate that I couldn't put in my "real" e-mail adress. (not sure if all servers are like this, but on theirs all your outgoing mail says exactly what your e-mail is, and I like to use a different reply to mail adress.)
So I stopped using it.
Here is an odd little aside though. The Flexmail beta version works as true push (even though you still can't select the push icon in the comm manager).
But the beta only worked on my everyone.net imap4 account and not on my 1and1 imap4...

mail2web
You can always use www.mail2web.com. And it's free. You get 1 gig e-mail address, push-mail, outlook web acces, and so on. Is supports ActiveSync over GPRS/3G. I think the only drawback is the connection speed, maybe country specific. I live in Romania, and it takes a little while to get synched, even on 3G connection. Anyway, push mail works really great.
Cheers

I too use mail2web. You can send "From:" the mail address of your choice (providing it's yours) as an extra service for a mere 60c per month or so. Otherwise it's free and works great.
Their free service doesn't allow you to set the "From" address to anything other than [email protected], 60c per month gets you anything you like.

Push email
I highly recommend http://www.cortado.com. Their service is fast, reliable and costs only about 6$ a month w/ a two month trial period for free. I have been using this service for about six months and have been very pleased with the service. Their Webmail menus have icons with labels in german, which aren't difficult to figure out. This isn't a problem for me as I hardly ever find myself needing to access my account via webmail.

Alternative solution
Well, I use my HERMES without the Push-Mail feature: As long as you use GPRS you can check your eMails every 5 Minutes without loosing considerably on battery life. I do that with my gMail account (POP3, SSL-encrypted) - works perfectly. Nice feature: gMail will automaticly archive all mails you collected via POP3.
No fees, no forwarding etc. and 5 minutes of "lag" should be ok for most of us.
To switch between 3G/UMTS and GPRS when needed and preserve battery you can use "BandSwitch" - you will find the free application on this site in the Hermes forums. Its beatifully designed.

I've been using mail2web also for quite a while now and I'm very happy with it. Best of all: it's free ;-)

if you don't mind leaving your desktop computer on all the time, then www.emoze.com is a viable option.
It runs an app on your desktop that "pushes" all the mail you receive in your Outlook inbox out to your device...

Yup - web2mail here too. It's free and I generally get my gmail mail pushed to my handset before it gets to my PC. No real complaints.
Also from this site there is http://www.port88.org/ which also free.
The main draw back that I have found from web2mail is that I can not overwrite the reply address to a non-'web2mail' address unfortunately.

Does anybody have any thoughts on how Push versus POP affects battery life?

MetalMushroom said:
Yup - web2mail here too. It's free and I generally get my gmail mail pushed to my handset before it gets to my PC. No real complaints.
Also from this site there is http://www.port88.org/ which also free.
The main draw back that I have found from web2mail is that I can not overwrite the reply address to a non-'web2mail' address unfortunately.
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I have the problem that I can sync over wifi with web2mail, but it doesn't work over 3G web 'n walk dutch t-mobile, any ideas?
Problem found; my 3G is not working on my current location................

lindseyp said:
I too use mail2web. You can send "From:" the mail address of your choice (providing it's yours) as an extra service for a mere 60c per month or so. Otherwise it's free and works great.
Their free service doesn't allow you to set the "From" address to anything other than [email protected], 60c per month gets you anything you like.
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Could you tell me where you found this extra 60c service? I can't find it anywhere on their site??

Mail2web definatly worth a go. I use the push mail feature but also use it as a backup for my contacts, calender and tasks.
REALLY worth it if you tend to flash new ROMs or HArd Reset quite often.

MetalMushroom said:
Yup - web2mail here too. It's free and I generally get my gmail mail pushed to my handset before it gets to my PC. No real complaints.
Also from this site there is http://www.port88.org/ which also free.
The main draw back that I have found from web2mail is that I can not overwrite the reply address to a non-'web2mail' address unfortunately.
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I have been using http://www.port88.org/ offering for a while now and it's very good, there is a thread on this here on xda-developers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273878
I also use the push mail on my Nokia N73 'play phone' which works great as well. There is good documentation for set up (one of which i wrote
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
)

tkeebler said:
Does anybody have any thoughts on how Push versus POP affects battery life?
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I haven't done any testing but when I was just using pop email and checking every 15min then my battery life would maybe go down 10% during my 11hr shift..
Now with push email active I usually go home with around 50% battery life left..Seems to take around 40% more for me. If I used my phone alot it seems that it would be a problem for me..

Free Exchange mail service with Outlook over HTTPS and ALIAS'S

No more free accounts, refer to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305612 for updated information if you want an account. Thanks.

DeniaL said:
I run an exchange server and I am welcoming pocketpc users that are in need of an exchange account to activesync with. This service also offers Direct Push for those of you that have have this on your PocketPC. As well as the ability to sync all of your contacts, calander events, and task wirelessly onto your Outlook desktop instantly.
Anyone that still needs a Exchange account, I can provide one for them. I will be providing up to 50 or so accounts for free, donations will be and are always appreciated. My constraint right now is how much hard drive space I have. If I can get enough donations for a bigger hard drive I would be able to give out many many more accounts. Also, my service will include Exchange over HTTPS as well if you want to use the server with Outlook on whatever computer you want to. I can provide these settings for people that want the service. Just PM me with the e-mail address you want. Domain is @getztek.com .
So if you like the service and feel that you can contribute, please send paypal payments to [email protected]. If you think you can donate in other ways, please send me an email!
Please submit the information in this format:
First Name:
Last Name or Initial:
E-Mail address requested:
Password:
Also, please give me at least 24 hours to set this up as it is a free service and I do have a job/life. Thanks!
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I will be happy to use your service, but I have two questions...
Does your service support sending email using another email adress (so that the receiver sees my primary email instead of the email with your domain)?
Does it require vpn to reach exchange server via desktop outlook?

I will be the most happiest person to use the Direct push service if get one.
Thanks in advance
--tux

tjmvdz said:
I will be happy to use your service, but I have two questions...
Does your service support sending email using another email adress (so that the receiver sees my primary email instead of the email with your domain)?
Does it require vpn to reach exchange server via desktop outlook?
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No it doesn't support sending e-mail using another e-mail address but I can setup an e-mail forward so that everything that comes in to your exchange e-mail box gets forwarded to your other e-mail account as well as staying in your exchange account.
It does not require VPN to use Outlook on your desktop.
You just have to setup Outlook to connect to the Exchange server using HTTPS. There is a guide here showing what you have to do to setup Outlook properly...
http://www.petri.co.il/configure_outlook_2003_to_use_rpc_over_http.htm
This is obviously for a different domain but the configuration is the same.

tux_tux said:
I will be the most happiest person to use the Direct push service if get one.
Thanks in advance
--tux
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Send me a PM with the info as asked in the topic.

Now I am able to sync all my stuff.
How to setup Direct push on wm5 for getztek
1. Download the root cert and copy to \My Documents\filename.cer
2. Start -> File Explorer -> \My Documents (execute filename.cer)
3. Start -> Setting -> System -> Certificates [root tab] and check for the same.
4. Do a soft reset.
5. Start -> Programs -> ActiveSync -> Menu Configure Server
a. Server address: mail.getztek.com
b. Tick on ssl connection
c. Username: name
d. Password: *******
e. Domain: getztek.com
f. Next -> Finish
g. Sync & Njoy
Thanks for Denial activating my account and helping me configuring the same.
--tux

no problem tux...enjoy the account.

CAL's
Don't you need to own a CAL for each user? The CAL's are around 40 dollars a person.

bumpity bump

HAHA
Arn't you the guy that asked if i could help setup your exchange server?

austindkelly said:
Arn't you the guy that asked if i could help setup your exchange server?
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I don't think so. I had asked for help setting up SSL on the server...but that's about all.

what version of exchange are u running

grinny11 said:
what version of exchange are u running
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Exchange 2003

Bumping the post because of alias's

DeniaL, may I ask what kind of Junk filter setup you use? In particular, does it add a Spam tag to the subject line and can filtering be turned off or otherwise adjusted by the end user? I currently heavily pre-screen my email before forwarding it into my not very good Hosted Exchange account (third one I am on...alas!)
I made a fairly lengthy post re some of the header issues coming out of Exchange accounts which trigger false postives. Won't repeat it all here, but my thoughts can be found at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1146784#post1146784
I would be happy to donate, I don't need "free". Just want something a bit cooler and better than the hosted services I have used so far!
I do understand that you are developing this out right now and it is subject to available funds. But if possible, can you give me a rough ball park on the amount of storage you can offer? A PM would be fine if you prefer not to post that estimate here. Many thanks.
This is Exchange 2003 with the messaging service pack 2, right?

flamingcrumb said:
DeniaL, may I ask what kind of Junk filter setup you use? In particular, does it add a Spam tag to the subject line and can filtering be turned off or otherwise adjusted by the end user? I currently heavily pre-screen my email before forwarding it into my not very good Hosted Exchange account (third one I am on...alas!)
I made a fairly lengthy post re some of the header issues coming out of Exchange accounts which trigger false postives. Won't repeat it all here, but my thoughts can be found at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1146784#post1146784
I would be happy to donate, I don't need "free". Just want something a bit cooler and better than the hosted services I have used so far!
I do understand that you are developing this out right now and it is subject to available funds. But if possible, can you give me a rough ball park on the amount of storage you can offer? A PM would be fine if you prefer not to post that estimate here. Many thanks.
This is Exchange 2003 with the messaging service pack 2, right?
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I am using Trend Micro's Antivirus/Antispam suite. I'm blanking on the exact name right now but it works very well. It doesn't add the "spam" tag, it just creates a folder in your outlook called "Spam." It moves any suspect e-mail into that folder. I rarely have an issue with false positives. Let me know if there is anything else I can do for you. How much storage would you need? If you could give me a ballpark, i'll just let you know if that if do-able or not.

Sounds good. But can the end user elect to turn off filtering to the Spam folder within the OWA Options/Rules if desired?
Also, have you seen the problem of legit mail sent from a Pocket PC through Exchange being falsely flagged as Junk when it arrives (unless the other person also uses Exchange)? This is a known and documented issue, but has not been addressed by any Exchange service I have used to date. It is an issue with the headers looking like forged Outlook Spam, plus it having the appearance of bulk mail, even though it's not.
Because of this I only use Exchange to receive forwarded mail for Direct Push. Never to send. I hope that can change some day!
Storage-wise I currently have a commercially hosted Exchange acount with 1GB. I only use part of it, but it does leaves room to archive and grow. So, 500MB to a 1GB would be ideal.
TIA

flamingcrumb said:
Sounds good. But can the end user elect to turn off filtering to the Spam folder within the OWA Options/Rules if desired?
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Yes, I can disable this.
Also, have you seen the problem of legit mail sent from a Pocket PC through Exchange being falsely flagged as Junk when it arrives (unless the other person also uses Exchange)?
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No I have not heard of this issue. I send people e-mail ALL the time EVERY day and have never had e-mail incorrectly flagged as spam. I'm not denying that it is indeed an issue, but I have not experienced it.
Storage-wise I currently have a commercially hosted Exchange acount with 1GB. I only use part of it, but it does leaves room to archive and grow. So, 500MB to a 1GB would be ideal.
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That's not a problem.

Thanks! Sounds like it is a sys admin thing (not a user OWA setting). Correct?
Got a quick question I am going to PM you. Hope that is OK.

Many thanks to DeniaL for helping me pinpoint/confirm a weird interaction between Exchange and another mailserver I use. (This was a generalized thing and not specific to DeniaL's server).
Just wanted to drop in a quick plug for DeniaL, saying this is a nice person who knows the tech stuff and seems very straight up.
This is a very kind offer for some free Exchange accounts. Jump on it while the offer stands ...and though DeniaL does not require it, please, please do make a donation for your account. It's not only basic decency, it might even mean the service can be sustained and/or expanded.
Personally, I can afford (and really need) a commericial account with a formal support channel. Plus I don't want to be taking a slot from someone else who may really need a free service.
But, Hey Denial. if you do ever choose to offer a commerical hosted Exchange service, please let me know! I would be happy to pay for your expertise!

Exchange support

I can't get the standard mail client to work with my company's exchange server. Touchdown on other devices works fine. I haven't tried Touchdown on the Xoom yet, I'm sure it will work fine, but I thought Honeycomb was supposed to have all of this straightened out. Tablet has a pin and is already running in encrypted mode.
Not sure what else to try. Of course this just works on the iPad and IT is rubbing it in...

Do other android devices work? I use corp exchange and it has worked on stock android for me in 2.1,2.2 and 2.3.
You could try k9 mail, it's always a little more updated than the stock app.
EDIT: Also, when I setup my exchange mail I have to not include the domain name.

graphicsman said:
I can't get the standard mail client to work with my company's exchange server. Touchdown on other devices works fine. I haven't tried Touchdown on the Xoom yet, I'm sure it will work fine, but I thought Honeycomb was supposed to have all of this straightened out. Tablet has a pin and is already running in encrypted mode.
Not sure what else to try. Of course this just works on the iPad and IT is rubbing it in...
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I unfortunately cannot help you but can verify that the email app works fine with Exchange 2003 and SSL for me.

works fine with my exchange. i think i had to edit server settings manually. like you enter
"[email protected]"
server settings was set to "company.com"
i had to edit server setting to "webmail.company.com" to get it work

I use Kerio at work (I know this is an Exchange Thread, but Kerio uses ActiveSync, and the corp sync account), and have been really underwhelmed with the email setup.
I get contacts, email, and my one personal calendar, but none of the exposed public folders, public contact lists, or public calendars that my DroidX sees.
I was hoping as well that honeycomb would have these kinks worked out. Sucks to have Gmail be the "main" supported interface, and not really have a robust corp choice.
as a side note, there's a "Touchdown for Tablets" app that works fine with your old touchdown license key and offers more real estate, but I'm just sick of having to use a third party app, and am just using my phone for now. The office is going to Exchange sometime this year, and I can hold out on the tablet until then.

Xooms exchange support is fine. In fact it has the most support its ever had. I use it with both a 2003 and a exchange 2007 server and both were a breeze to setup. The 2003 server does not even have a valid SSL cert and it still was easy.
That being said I would still recommend touchdown. It gives you tons more options and does work pretty darn well. Their tablet support is still a little rough but they will quickly get it better.

Xooms exchange support is fine, best its ever been. I use it both a 2003 and 2007 server and both were a synch to setup.
I would recommend Touchdown though. It has tons more options and is pretty slick. It looks pretty good on tablets but has a few rough edges because of the huge screen.

despich said:
Xooms exchange support is fine, best its ever been. I use it both a 2003 and 2007 server and both were a synch to setup.
I would recommend Touchdown though. It has tons more options and is pretty slick. It looks pretty good on tablets but has a few rough edges because of the huge screen.
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Are you referring to the "Touchdown for Tablets" version?

graphicsman said:
I can't get the standard mail client to work with my company's exchange server. Touchdown on other devices works fine. I haven't tried Touchdown on the Xoom yet, I'm sure it will work fine, but I thought Honeycomb was supposed to have all of this straightened out. Tablet has a pin and is already running in encrypted mode.
Not sure what else to try. Of course this just works on the iPad and IT is rubbing it in...
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What exactly is it doing? I was having problems trying to add my Exchange account when I went through Settings, Accounts. It was telling me my address/password combo was incorrect, and I couldn't get past it.
I tried withing the email app itself, and I could access the manual settings. That worked fine.
Moral of the story is: if you were trying to add from Settings, try adding from within the email app.

I'm adding from within the mail app. I literally get a popup after it talks to the server saying "Server requires security features that your Android device does not support". Identical setup works on iPad and iPhone. I'll try again tomorrow with touchdown.

keitht said:
Are you referring to the "Touchdown for Tablets" version?
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Yea touchdown for tablets. Although I have used the regular touchdown for a long time on my Droid Phone and it was good as well.
Dan

graphicsman said:
I'm adding from within the mail app. I literally get a popup after it talks to the server saying "Server requires security features that your Android device does not support". Identical setup works on iPad and iPhone. I'll try again tomorrow with touchdown.
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Hmm. Sounds like your exchange organization has some restrictions set in the "Exchange ActiveSync Mailbox Policies" that maybe the Xoom does not support. Sounds like the Xoom is saying I can't fully support the security policy they are asking for so for the orginizations sake it's not going to not permit you to setup email.
Using this policy they can Force things in the policy like requiring a password, requiring encryption, password expiration, etc etc. Even items like disabling some features of the "phone" are settable. Every version of Exchange Supports more and more options. As you can see from the attached screenshots of the options from exchange 2007 it has a ton of them.
Luckily mine are not set very stringent. I don't know which one(s) xoom doesn't support but given the multitude of them. It could be a few.
Talk to your Exchange admin and tell them to mellow out on the restrictions some. They CAN setup a policy just for you that is less restrictive. Or try touchdown it may allow you to setup.
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+1 on despich's response.
Buy your Exchange admin a coke (or something he likes), show him your Xoom, and ask him why he thinks you're receiving that error.
Odds are, he'll be enthralled with your Xoom, and will want to get it to work. Odds are, it's some random security policy that needs to be relaxed, though I can't think of what it could be at the moment (based on the error you received), as 3.0 supports full encryption and PIN security, which are the typical security policies enforced.

Touchdown works great. I transferred my regular version (didn't know there was a tablet version) to my Xoom and it works just fine

Aside from the fact it asked for permission for remote wipe of my device from my school, our school's .edu exchange server through outlook.com went swimmingly with stock application.
I mention it because my school does, in fact, have some ridiculous policies associated with the server.

In OWA you can go to the mobile phone tab and turn on logging to see what is happening.

graphicsman said:
I can't get the standard mail client to work with my company's exchange server. Touchdown on other devices works fine. I haven't tried Touchdown on the Xoom yet, I'm sure it will work fine, but I thought Honeycomb was supposed to have all of this straightened out. Tablet has a pin and is already running in encrypted mode.
Not sure what else to try. Of course this just works on the iPad and IT is rubbing it in...
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OP: *edited*
All of the advice above is valid but I will share my experience. In short the exchange auto discovery process seems a little less forgiving than in this OS than some others I have played with. Thes others include, other android versions, ios, and WinMo. The advice about having to use the manual process was the a key for me but I will add some specifics.
My company has changed the name of its exchange server a couple of times in the last few years. Our exchange
Server for webmail and phones was "vexxxx.com", later it was "webmail.vexxxx.com" and later still it was "exwebmail.vexxxx.com."
for some reason other OS have been better able to find the correct server during autolocate but this client stopped trying at the first address "vexxxx.com" the trick is knowing figuring out that address if you don't know it.
If getting the correct info from IT is not convenient you can try this. If you have webmail access for this account you may be able to observe the correct server adress in the URL bar of your desktop web browser when you are at the login page.
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Touchdown has never failed me. I just wish they would clean up their user interface. The native Honeycomb mail clients are crisp and clean, with nice usability touches. Touchdown is long past due to adopt a similar cleaner interface. Until then, it stays off the Xoom.

Right, Touchdown never fails but its like Excel invaded your mail client.

Setup was painless I am on exchange 2010 as well as 2007. Great exchange support
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