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4smartphone.net Exchange Server Service

Greetings all,
I upgraded my 8125 to the Qtek ROM via summiter's ROM upgrade tool, (worked perfectly, thanks summiter!) and I enabled push email.
Since I didnt have and Exchange server, I signed up for one with 4smartphone.net after reading about them in PocketPC Mag. Anyone use them? there's a 15 day trial, but they couldnt get my account setup right after calling them 3 times and about 4 hours wait, then it seemed to work, push email worked great..
Now this morning, they're server is unresponsive again.. jsut wondering if anyone uses them and what their experiance with them is.. i'm not to happy with them right now..

I would also be interested in this. I need to find a good shared exchange provider and I am thinking about going with Intermedia.net.

I wasn't happy with the response I got on a pre-sales query. So I used 1and1.co.uk instead.
They provide push mail (but don't list it) and support a multi-domain email. The only down side is that they don't provide spam filtering. But I figured out how to block it (spam) via filtering.

fowen said:
I would also be interested in this. I need to find a good shared exchange provider and I am thinking about going with Intermedia.net.
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I have been using 4smartphone for about a month w/o difficulty -- I use Outlook rules to send copies of all my office mail to 4smartphone which then pushes them to my k-jam. Only negative in this is that all the msg. come in with my name and address as the sender (no prob changing this if I use reply but it is an extra step). Service is quite fast and so far w/o problems in either direction.

well, just got an email from them about the server outage, with them profusely apologising.. at least they're letting their customers know about it..
another thing i didnt really like is you have to pay for a full year up front.. although right now i'm diggin' the fact that i get push email(tested i get an email within 15 seconds of it being sent), and also that my Outlook on my laptop and my 8125 are fully synced.. if i read it on my 8125, it's listed as read on my laptop and vice versa, so i dont have to re-read anything or whatever.. pretty slick.. they also sync contacts, tasks, calendar, etc too..
they have a 15 day trial, so im gonna give it another week or so and see how it goes..

Just signed up for this at mail2 web. I used to use them ages ago just to check a couple of pop3 accounts at work, but they are doing a beta of a free hosted Exchange service. Even better is that you can get a personal Exchange account for $1.99 a month. You need to create an email address with them, but you can link other pop3 accounts to it as well.
http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/m2wLive/

What I like about 4smartphone.net is that when you send mail through them, it will show as your own pre-set email address and not [email protected].
I just finished the trial and signed up for their Express service. I think you can get your money back (pro rata) if you cancel before your subscription expires.
I was considering 1and1.co.uk or 1and1.com too, but couldn't be asked to change all the settings.

I've been using 4smartphone since January and so far I am very happy with them. I have sent about 4 emails to tech support and I received responses within a few hours and they were very helpful. They even verified that my account switched from SMS notification to direct push when I asked (after I upgraded).

I really like using them, so much so that I got the company I work for to sign up with 4smartphone. There are a total of 9 people at my work. Great customer service and a great price.

I just setup a mail2web account and had some problems getting either the txt message based push to work or the direct push to work.
After I contacted them they told me this functionality hasn't been installed and will be done over the next week.

good service
I used 4smartphone when i was working from my office at home and the service was good. I am in a 30+ staff office now and we use Intermedia which is great to. I've got my email set up on my blackberry and you can check your email through outlook on the web which is convenient as well.

Free Exchange mail service with Outlook over HTTPS and ALIAS'S

No more free accounts, refer to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305612 for updated information if you want an account. Thanks.

DeniaL said:
I run an exchange server and I am welcoming pocketpc users that are in need of an exchange account to activesync with. This service also offers Direct Push for those of you that have have this on your PocketPC. As well as the ability to sync all of your contacts, calander events, and task wirelessly onto your Outlook desktop instantly.
Anyone that still needs a Exchange account, I can provide one for them. I will be providing up to 50 or so accounts for free, donations will be and are always appreciated. My constraint right now is how much hard drive space I have. If I can get enough donations for a bigger hard drive I would be able to give out many many more accounts. Also, my service will include Exchange over HTTPS as well if you want to use the server with Outlook on whatever computer you want to. I can provide these settings for people that want the service. Just PM me with the e-mail address you want. Domain is @getztek.com .
So if you like the service and feel that you can contribute, please send paypal payments to [email protected]. If you think you can donate in other ways, please send me an email!
Please submit the information in this format:
First Name:
Last Name or Initial:
E-Mail address requested:
Password:
Also, please give me at least 24 hours to set this up as it is a free service and I do have a job/life. Thanks!
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I will be happy to use your service, but I have two questions...
Does your service support sending email using another email adress (so that the receiver sees my primary email instead of the email with your domain)?
Does it require vpn to reach exchange server via desktop outlook?

I will be the most happiest person to use the Direct push service if get one.
Thanks in advance
--tux

tjmvdz said:
I will be happy to use your service, but I have two questions...
Does your service support sending email using another email adress (so that the receiver sees my primary email instead of the email with your domain)?
Does it require vpn to reach exchange server via desktop outlook?
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No it doesn't support sending e-mail using another e-mail address but I can setup an e-mail forward so that everything that comes in to your exchange e-mail box gets forwarded to your other e-mail account as well as staying in your exchange account.
It does not require VPN to use Outlook on your desktop.
You just have to setup Outlook to connect to the Exchange server using HTTPS. There is a guide here showing what you have to do to setup Outlook properly...
http://www.petri.co.il/configure_outlook_2003_to_use_rpc_over_http.htm
This is obviously for a different domain but the configuration is the same.

tux_tux said:
I will be the most happiest person to use the Direct push service if get one.
Thanks in advance
--tux
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Send me a PM with the info as asked in the topic.

Now I am able to sync all my stuff.
How to setup Direct push on wm5 for getztek
1. Download the root cert and copy to \My Documents\filename.cer
2. Start -> File Explorer -> \My Documents (execute filename.cer)
3. Start -> Setting -> System -> Certificates [root tab] and check for the same.
4. Do a soft reset.
5. Start -> Programs -> ActiveSync -> Menu Configure Server
a. Server address: mail.getztek.com
b. Tick on ssl connection
c. Username: name
d. Password: *******
e. Domain: getztek.com
f. Next -> Finish
g. Sync & Njoy
Thanks for Denial activating my account and helping me configuring the same.
--tux

no problem tux...enjoy the account.

CAL's
Don't you need to own a CAL for each user? The CAL's are around 40 dollars a person.

bumpity bump

HAHA
Arn't you the guy that asked if i could help setup your exchange server?

austindkelly said:
Arn't you the guy that asked if i could help setup your exchange server?
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I don't think so. I had asked for help setting up SSL on the server...but that's about all.

what version of exchange are u running

grinny11 said:
what version of exchange are u running
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Exchange 2003

Bumping the post because of alias's

DeniaL, may I ask what kind of Junk filter setup you use? In particular, does it add a Spam tag to the subject line and can filtering be turned off or otherwise adjusted by the end user? I currently heavily pre-screen my email before forwarding it into my not very good Hosted Exchange account (third one I am on...alas!)
I made a fairly lengthy post re some of the header issues coming out of Exchange accounts which trigger false postives. Won't repeat it all here, but my thoughts can be found at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1146784#post1146784
I would be happy to donate, I don't need "free". Just want something a bit cooler and better than the hosted services I have used so far!
I do understand that you are developing this out right now and it is subject to available funds. But if possible, can you give me a rough ball park on the amount of storage you can offer? A PM would be fine if you prefer not to post that estimate here. Many thanks.
This is Exchange 2003 with the messaging service pack 2, right?

flamingcrumb said:
DeniaL, may I ask what kind of Junk filter setup you use? In particular, does it add a Spam tag to the subject line and can filtering be turned off or otherwise adjusted by the end user? I currently heavily pre-screen my email before forwarding it into my not very good Hosted Exchange account (third one I am on...alas!)
I made a fairly lengthy post re some of the header issues coming out of Exchange accounts which trigger false postives. Won't repeat it all here, but my thoughts can be found at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1146784#post1146784
I would be happy to donate, I don't need "free". Just want something a bit cooler and better than the hosted services I have used so far!
I do understand that you are developing this out right now and it is subject to available funds. But if possible, can you give me a rough ball park on the amount of storage you can offer? A PM would be fine if you prefer not to post that estimate here. Many thanks.
This is Exchange 2003 with the messaging service pack 2, right?
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I am using Trend Micro's Antivirus/Antispam suite. I'm blanking on the exact name right now but it works very well. It doesn't add the "spam" tag, it just creates a folder in your outlook called "Spam." It moves any suspect e-mail into that folder. I rarely have an issue with false positives. Let me know if there is anything else I can do for you. How much storage would you need? If you could give me a ballpark, i'll just let you know if that if do-able or not.

Sounds good. But can the end user elect to turn off filtering to the Spam folder within the OWA Options/Rules if desired?
Also, have you seen the problem of legit mail sent from a Pocket PC through Exchange being falsely flagged as Junk when it arrives (unless the other person also uses Exchange)? This is a known and documented issue, but has not been addressed by any Exchange service I have used to date. It is an issue with the headers looking like forged Outlook Spam, plus it having the appearance of bulk mail, even though it's not.
Because of this I only use Exchange to receive forwarded mail for Direct Push. Never to send. I hope that can change some day!
Storage-wise I currently have a commercially hosted Exchange acount with 1GB. I only use part of it, but it does leaves room to archive and grow. So, 500MB to a 1GB would be ideal.
TIA

flamingcrumb said:
Sounds good. But can the end user elect to turn off filtering to the Spam folder within the OWA Options/Rules if desired?
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Yes, I can disable this.
Also, have you seen the problem of legit mail sent from a Pocket PC through Exchange being falsely flagged as Junk when it arrives (unless the other person also uses Exchange)?
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No I have not heard of this issue. I send people e-mail ALL the time EVERY day and have never had e-mail incorrectly flagged as spam. I'm not denying that it is indeed an issue, but I have not experienced it.
Storage-wise I currently have a commercially hosted Exchange acount with 1GB. I only use part of it, but it does leaves room to archive and grow. So, 500MB to a 1GB would be ideal.
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That's not a problem.

Thanks! Sounds like it is a sys admin thing (not a user OWA setting). Correct?
Got a quick question I am going to PM you. Hope that is OK.

Many thanks to DeniaL for helping me pinpoint/confirm a weird interaction between Exchange and another mailserver I use. (This was a generalized thing and not specific to DeniaL's server).
Just wanted to drop in a quick plug for DeniaL, saying this is a nice person who knows the tech stuff and seems very straight up.
This is a very kind offer for some free Exchange accounts. Jump on it while the offer stands ...and though DeniaL does not require it, please, please do make a donation for your account. It's not only basic decency, it might even mean the service can be sustained and/or expanded.
Personally, I can afford (and really need) a commericial account with a formal support channel. Plus I don't want to be taking a slot from someone else who may really need a free service.
But, Hey Denial. if you do ever choose to offer a commerical hosted Exchange service, please let me know! I would be happy to pay for your expertise!

Free Exchange Push Mail Server W/ Exch. Over Https And Alias's!

I run an exchange server and I am welcoming pocketpc users that are in need of an exchange account to activesync with. This service also offers Direct Push for those of you that have have this on your PocketPC. As well as the ability to sync all of your contacts, calander events, and task wirelessly onto your Outlook desktop instantly.
NOTICE: Lots of users have been asking if they can have an alias setup so that it looks like they are sending from thier personal email address (ie gmail, hotmail, yahoo ect..) and the answers is YES! With each account you can have an alias setup so that your recipents see your email address as anything you like! In order to keep this service alive, it is asked that you donate $10.00 USD in order to use this Email Alias service. You can use paypal and send the money to [email protected]
Anyone that still needs a Exchange account, I can provide one for them. I will be providing up to 75 or so accounts for free, donations will be and are always appreciated. My constraint right now is how much hard drive space I have. If I can get enough donations for a bigger hard drive I would be able to give out many many more accounts. Also, my service will include Exchange over HTTPS as well if you want to use the server with Outlook on whatever computer you want to. I can provide these settings for people that want the service. Just PM me with the e-mail address you want. Domain is @getztek.com .
So if you like the service and feel that you can contribute, please send paypal payments to [email protected]. If you think you can donate in other ways, please send me an email!
Please submit the information in this format:
First Name:
Last Name or Initial:
E-Mail address requested:
Password:
Also, please give me at least 24 hours to set this up as it is a free service and I do have a job/life. Thanks!
Lastly, I did have this posted in the Wizard forum, but most people don't read both forums and I have more accounts that I can support, hence posting it here as well.

Also, if you want to let me know about something, please repond in the thread, only e-mail / PM your account information.

Hi
I think Im the first to reply, so firstly can I say thanks!
A couple of questions . .
What version of Exchange is this? Any HTML mail support?
How or where do I install the certificate you sent me? I have a mail2web account but that didnt require much setting up but no Outlook access either!
Thanks
Rob

robt2379 said:
Hi
I think Im the first to reply, so firstly can I say thanks!
A couple of questions . .
What version of Exchange is this? Any HTML mail support?
How or where do I install the certificate you sent me? I have a mail2web account but that didnt require much setting up but no Outlook access either!
Thanks
Rob
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It is Exchange 2003. Easiest way to install the certificate is put it on your phone, then tap it. It will run and install itself. Once you do that, just enter your info into Active Sync, easy peezie! The outlook access by itself can be tricky which is why I gave you the link to that tutorial showing you how to set it up. Hope this helps.

Sent you a pm . . .
Rob

Ok, Im now up and running on both my Tytn and Outlook 2003.
So far everything seems to be working just as it should and my initial impression is that its quicker than mail2web. The original sync of contacts and calendar etc seemed to take aout half the time.
All looking really good, what do I do about the email alias thing? Another pm request to Denial?
I will run for another day or so and update, hopefully will be running a new version of WM6 later today )
Thanks a lot DeniaL, this is a generous contribution to the community and I be making a donation shortly.
Rob

robt2379 said:
Ok, Im now up and running on both my Tytn and Outlook 2003.
So far everything seems to be working just as it should and my initial impression is that its quicker than mail2web. The original sync of contacts and calendar etc seemed to take aout half the time.
All looking really good, what do I do about the email alias thing? Another pm request to Denial?
I will run for another day or so and update, hopefully will be running a new version of WM6 later today )
Thanks a lot DeniaL, this is a generous contribution to the community and I be making a donation shortly.
Rob
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Sounds good. Glad to hear that you like it. As far as the e-mail alias thing, when you send your donation just include a note saying what your alias'd e-mail should be and I will set it up and send you an email back letting you know when it's finished. Take care!

Just bumping it so more people can get accounts if they want 'em.

Hi
i sent you an email,
Looking forward to working with your Exchange server
Ridi

Why would someone host their email with some random individual they've never met, and open themselves up to remote wiping? Seems like a pretty big security breach to me...
I mean, you may be totally trustworthy. But you also may not be.

richy240 said:
Why would someone host their email with some random individual they've never met, and open themselves up to remote wiping? Seems like a pretty big security breach to me...
I mean, you may be totally trustworthy. But you also may not be.
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They can choose to trust me or not. I am not in this to screw with people. Just like the majority of this forum, I am just trying to offer a service. You can ask any of the people I offer this service to, I am not trying to screw anyone over.

reo said:
Hi
i sent you an email,
Looking forward to working with your Exchange server
Ridi
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I sent you an e-mail back. In regard's to your alias, I need to receive the $10 donation through paypal before I set that up. Go ahead and setup your phone, make sure everything is to your liking. As soon as you decide that, let me know and when I receive the $10 I will setup the alias'ing. Take care.

After much hassle, I'm finally up and running, haha. I trust him. I let him remote desktop connect to my computer to setup outlook and he didnt do anything fishy. He's legit and the service seems to work flawlessly once setup. Much recommended to anyone needing good push email/exchange. I will be donating to him once my paypal acct is funded on saturday. cheers on one of the best services yet!

hi
i got an error on my PPC :
Security permission was insufficient to update your device
Ridi

reo said:
hi
i got an error on my PPC :
Security permission was insufficient to update your device
Ridi
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Did you install the SSL certificate on your phone...?

yes, but i got this error.
Ridi

reo said:
yes, but i got this error.
Ridi
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Try again, I re-created your account from scratch.

WOOHOO i finally got the same set up configured on one of my home servers!! windows 2003 + exchange server 2003 and i'm golden also got aliases working so now my phone is sending emails as though i'm emailing from gmail, and also synching my work email simultaneously (set up a redirect).
denial, to prevent you getting bogged down i'd be willing to take on a few push accounts too - also SSL based, free push mail
shoot me a PM if anyone's interested!

hi
i would like to verify a few things when setting up the account.
Microsoft exchange server : ???
Exchange Proxy Settings
https:// ????
im trying to setup this account on my outlook 2003.
I changed my handset altogether, im using a TORQ N300/ETEN X500 now.
Ridi

hi
ok i got it
Microsoft exchange server : server.getztek.com
Exchange Proxy Settings
https:// mail.getztek.com
sorted!
got my Xchange outlook 2003, and DP account on my PPC
all good.
Ridi

pushing gmail onto my phone.

prewarning: i'm a complete microsoft exchange newbie, although i have experience in win2003 management / active directory etc.
here's what i'm trying to do.
basically, push my gmail email onto my phone (running windows mobile 5). i don't want pop access, i want actual PUSH.
how i figure this would work:
- forward my email from gmail to my local win2003 machine, which has exchange 2003 running
- exchange in turn pushes the email onto my phone immediately
- i can reply on my phone and it looks like it came from my gmail address, not from my local domain (i.e. my exchange server address).
so far i'm ok with 1 and 2, all is working golden. BUT i can't reply on my phone - it sends the message fine but shows the from address as my exchange server address.
any idea how to fix this? basically would want to set up some sort of mail relay...
any help would be appreciated! would be glad to provide a few free accounts to people who can help!
cheers!

If you have Exchange there is a way to setup an alias to accomplish this. PM me if you would like and I can explain in a PM. Basically what it does is it tricks Exchange into thinking it's sending from another e-mail address but basically it just changes the Reply to field so people see it coming from your gmail instead of your exchange account.

Maybe you should try Push Effect ?

took a look at push effect. not quite what i'd like... i odn't want any more running crap on my phone, especially not some alerting service. i want pretty much seamless integration with my outlook on my phone. it can't be hard, i'd rather do it myself for free rather than shell out something or other for licenses or software.
i'm already using emoze (emoze.com) which is good, but adds a silly little signature at the end of emails with some ad. PLUS it has added software running on my pc and phone, which i don't care much for.

try www.port88.org not sure if it's still free. When i signed up it was... amazing services

yep have seen that site. they have a suggested donation of $50, and even then not sure if they let me set my own "from" address...

chamelion said:
yep have seen that site. they have a suggested donation of $50, and even then not sure if they let me set my own "from" address...
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They require a donation in order to use alias, but then again, most places will. If he is already running his own exchange server, then he can just use that. Check your PMs chamelion I sent you instructions.

got the pm thanks
i did actually did do just that a little while ago and it works great (except for sending myself an email).
i have a whole new issue though, i was tryign to implement certificate authentication and now everythings messed up... it just doesn't synch up any more
i'll figure it out, or just reinstall the whole damn thing!

FINALLY got everything working - the aliases and even the SSL authentication which was a pain in the ass. turns out to have been the smallest stupidest mistake i was making, as it usually is!
if anyone wants free push email like denial is offering, shoot me a PM, i can offer the same
cheers!

Question about Email forwarding

So I work for a Company and we use email pretty regularly to communicate.
I am a store manager and the company is really **** about letting us set up to recieve emails to our phones. We use Microsoft outlook and it is an intranet bassed email service (I cant email my store or other stores from an outside email, it has to be from a store location). I have tried to creat a rule to have them forwarded but they dont forward.
I figured this is were some of the greatest and able bodies are, anybody have a solution? I'm just trying to get the stores email forwarded to my gmail account so I dont miss stuff on my days off. Anybody have any ideas??
Hope this is the correct forum for this

Well if your using outlook at your store, why don't you create a new account in your pocket outlook with your account info. You can find all of it in your settings, then set it to recieve at certain times only.
OR
There is an option to forward an email to an account once recieved. I'm using Outlook '07 so my setup may be a bit different but most outlook versions should have the same options. If you still can't find the rule setup for it just let me know.

mrmikemcguire said:
So I work for a Company and we use email pretty regularly to communicate.
I am a store manager and the company is really **** about letting us set up to recieve emails to our phones. We use Microsoft outlook and it is an intranet bassed email service (I cant email my store or other stores from an outside email, it has to be from a store location). I have tried to creat a rule to have them forwarded but they dont forward.
I figured this is were some of the greatest and able bodies are, anybody have a solution? I'm just trying to get the stores email forwarded to my gmail account so I dont miss stuff on my days off. Anybody have any ideas??
Hope this is the correct forum for this
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Well, there are a few things that come to mind.....
I am a District Manager for a restaurant chain so my first response is to say enjoy our time off
Second, I will probably sound like a jerk but there are reasons that companies limit email access to the physical location of a business, it is much more secure.
Knowing all of that, I personally forward all of my work mail to gmail and use the IMAP access so I do not have to remember if I have checked it or not. I generally get between 30-60 emails a day.
Your email may not be able to be forwarded due to how it is set up. I worked at a place where we did that and the email server we used would not allow an email from the units to be sent to any other domain other than our internal one.
My last thought it that if you are unable to find the email server settings on your own and set your email program on your phone up then you probably should not be messing with it. They are pretty easy to find but you do open your work network up to potential infection of malware or a virus. I know I would get pissed if one of my managers did something like that and caused us to have issues. Beware that they can and do track which IP addresses connect to the email server though.
-asb

Thanks guys,
I appreciate the help. I have put a rule in outlook to forward them to my gmail but it doesnt work.
Believe me, i understand the reason for limiting the location to the stores for email access. I do know that its definately possible because a couple area managers and my DM have it to their phone. I'm honestly not trying to deceitful, and I do enjoy my time off, but I have issues where i dont get important emails so i just wanted to forward them..
I didnt think about setting it up in the phone, i'm going to look into that. Where would i find the settings at in outlook? I know that I using it through my INTRANET and i use outlook through web access, so there isnt a "tools" tab that i can go into to get settings.
I'm going to play around with it.
Thanks again

Well.. some thoughts about the access...
If you you use web access then you know the server address already.
I would start off using the url as the pop3 access.
I'm replying from my phone but I will put up a mini guide later.
-asb

mrmikemcguire said:
Thanks guys,
I appreciate the help. I have put a rule in outlook to forward them to my gmail but it doesnt work.
Believe me, i understand the reason for limiting the location to the stores for email access. I do know that its definately possible because a couple area managers and my DM have it to their phone. I'm honestly not trying to deceitful, and I do enjoy my time off, but I have issues where i dont get important emails so i just wanted to forward them..
I didnt think about setting it up in the phone, i'm going to look into that. Where would i find the settings at in outlook? I know that I using it through my INTRANET and i use outlook through web access, so there isnt a "tools" tab that i can go into to get settings.
I'm going to play around with it.
Thanks again
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Can you create and send a new email to the Gmail account you are trying to forward these messages to? If you cannot then you must first find out if your network is blocking Gmail or if it is a routing issue. If you can successfully send an email to the Gmail account then the problem is merely in the settings of outlook (insert any email client here).
Almost always the outlook application must remain running for the rules to be honored. Creating and managing rules can be tricky. Make sure there are no stop processing rules entries prior to the forward all email rule you created. Also make sure there is not a stop rule in the forwarding rule or any after it will fail as well.

Ok, you said that you use outlook web access to check your email in your location. I would take a look at the url in the address bar. That will most likely be your access point that you will use later.
If you are on an intranet though you might be out of luck.
For example, one company I worked for had things set up like this:
Intranet with everyone having an ip address of 10.10.10.***.
We had an internal DNS server to resolve our intranet based web site and our email server.
Our email server was 10.10.10.101
Our internal web server was 10.10.10.102
Now, for outside access, we had an external IP that was something like 12.225.125.188.
If you only access your email from on the intranet (not INTERNET) then you need to find out the external IP address. You might be able to get it from a higher up but most likely you will be shot down.
Now, for simplicity sake, how about either letting the people at your location check email and call you if something major is going on email wise or just call them a few times each day?
Without the magic numbers (external IP) you won't be able to get access no matter what you try. There is also the remote possibility that the higher ups with access on their phones are using blackberries and the service associated with that or a VPN solution to get on the work intranet.
With out physically looking at the numbers and the set up it would be hard to figure out all of the details so my post is just full of WAG (wild ass guesses).
Just to finish it up, think about this...
Deliberately trying to circumvent your networks protections even accessing email against your companies policies can put you in not only work related trouble but also legal trouble.
-asb

Appreciate the help. I figured if the process wasnt to intracate I would set it up. Appears that it's more trouble than what it's worth.