Hi,
I'm rather excited to announce the very early stage alpha release of my push-email client which has been an ongoing fun project of mine ever since I dumped my Blackberry for an i-mate Jam (actually I went via a Treo with Chatter which was almost as good as the Blackberry).
What I have implemented is a IMAP transport which supports the IDLE extension. Therefore if you mail server provides IMAP access (many do) you can probably have push-email on your Pocket PC without running exchange and without any intermediaries. And obviously as this is IMAP, all new email and changes are synchronized both directions on your desktop and your PDA. This is only a 'transport' and so you will still use Outlook (or any other MAPI client) as your user-interface.
Now a few comments:
The code is in a pretty early stage, but I have personally been running it for a while now without any problems. I know of a few bugs, and will put up a bug-tracker sometime over the next couple of days; in the meantime, please post here for help and bug reports.
I have tested the IMAP implementation against a few different servers, but there might be some issues. Please post here if you have problems and I'll provide you with a debug version which will allow you to help me diagnose the problem.
A few of the main limitations of the current release: 1) only incoming email (sending is now my top priority for the next release); 2) only one mailbox (and it must be your INBOX) can be synchronized; 3) no attachments at the moment.
Battery life of your PDA will obviously be limited, as a socket connection is kept open. However, I have personally found there to be very little difference under normal usage.
Clearly you need to have a 'data plan' from your provider, and under normal usage the IMAP client will be transmitting data on a regular basis. So if you pay per MB, this is going to cost you. I have been careful to keep this to an absolute minimum, but it will obviously depend on how much email you receive. In 'idle' mode (i.e. with no incoming or outgoing email), the traffic will be less 0.5kB per hour.
There is no particular reason why this shouldn't run on other Pocket PCs. However as I have only tested it on my i-mate Jam, I'll have to leave that up to the patient and brave for the moment (if you do try and have problems, please post or email me, as I'm hoping to provide support for as many phones as possible including Smartphones).
I will eventually support WM5. Why bother as there is already push-email provided with WM5? Because this way you don't have to have an Exchange email server!
So enough from me. If you're still willing to give this ago, I'd very much appreciate your feedback. I've put the downloads and some brief installation instructions here:
http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/
Hope this works for you!
Geoff.
Hi, the 512bytes an hour sounds good, but some providers 'round up' the data, im not sure what rules they follow, and by how much or how often. But you may find that it ends up being 100k an hour because of this rounding.
Does anybody know how to find out the rounding rules for networks in the UK such as Orange and O2 ?
FWIW, T-mobile UK don't round and simply compute the 'total' over a full month.
I'm verry glad I live in The Netherlands. T-mobile NL has a flat rate plan for GPRS/WIFI/UMTS only €9,50 without limitations, even no fair use. As much data as you want. The only limitation is the max. bandwith for UMTS (64KB). Doesn't matter since the MDA has no UMTS.
Greetz,
Giovanni
Hi geoffreycross,
This could be what I'm waiting for. But i cannot get it to work properly. First installed it to storage following your steps and got an error that it couldn't get a socket. After soft-reset I got the error that it couldn't open MAPI interface. Reinstalled it to main, recreated the mailaccount in different orders nothing changed. Errorlog is greyed out, so please send some debug code.
I'm on flatfee TMO, so the data costs or no problem.
Looking forward to your answer,
M
oltp:
I have PM-ed you with a debug version. I forget my email address on the original post. If you have bugs, you will get the fastest turnaround if you email them to [email protected]
The transport can definitely not be installed onto a storage card and I would recommend trying. I'm not sure about the client executable, but I doubt it (and it's pretty small anyway!). I am surprised it worked at all. However the problem does not sound like it is related to the storage card. I'll give a full diagnosis when I see the debug trace.
Geoff.
Well played
only just installed this program, seems to work with Leeds Uni imap accounts. excellent solution to a much overlooked inconvenience.
Who needs BlackBerry with this little gem.
Cheers
Geoff, this looks great! Thanks for your efforts! Question I have is how this solution differs from the existing functionality in the built-in mail client to connect and get mail every x minutes? My understanding is that this is still a pull solution driven by the pocketpc keeping an open socket and querrying the IMAP server on a regular intervals. Am I missing the obvious here? Regards & Thanks
Edited to remove duplicate post. Have no clue how I did that. Apologies.
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GREAT WORK!
Make it works with Gmail and Yahoo Mail and it'll become GREATER!
Keep up the good work
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Geoff, this looks great! Thanks for your efforts! Question I have is how this solution differs from the existing functionality in the built-in mail client to connect and get mail every x minutes? My understanding is that this is still a pull solution driven by the pocketpc keeping an open socket and querrying the IMAP server on a regular intervals. Am I missing the obvious here? Regards & Thanks
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There is an extension to IMAP called IMAP IDLE which I am using. In this mode, you keep the socket open but you don't need to actually do any polling as the server pushes messages down the socket as soon as they arrive. So when a message arrives you will generally receive it within seconds, and when no message arrives there is no data being sent in either direction (with the exception of a keep-alive message very 30 minutes or so). This is exactly how Blackberry and push-email with WM5 works (although they use their own proprietary protocols which require you to use their servers).
DocteurN:
I have just tried out WebIS2, and it seems that they don't use the standard 'MAPI' interface for email (this is slightly surprising and disappointing as the API is designed to be available to 3rd parties). Therefore my transport won't work currently with WebIS. I'm going to have a look and see if I can reverse engineer their storage format and if I can I will be able to support WebIS. In the meantime, I'm afraid you will have to use the built-in Pocket Outlook.
Geoff.
FOSA:
Unfortunately gmail and Yahoo both provide POP but no IMAP which means that you're back to polling on a regular schedule (and that is not 'push-email' really). There are a number of groups trying to pressure Google and Yahoo to implement IMAP support (apparently it is the most requested feature of gmail).
In the meantime, have you considered using a mail provider like www.fastmail.fm which would pull email from the various servers and provide IMAP access to them all?
Geoff.
Isn't this how Seven (Smartner) works?
http://alwaysonmail.com/
BaldBoy said:
Isn't this how Seven (Smartner) works?
http://alwaysonmail.com/
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Yes and no.
Seven does use IMAP, but the connection is made via an intermediary server owned by Seven and your PPC will then connect to the Seven server using a unspecified protocol. Therefore you need to give them your userid and password. The code I have written connects directly to your own mail server and cuts out the 'middle man'. To be honest, I have no idea why Seven implemented it this way (other than to allow them to charge a yearly subscription).
Suggestion
Using the software, so far seems excellent but I've noticed two things so far:
- The setting to only pull messages within X days doesn't seem to work, it's downloading all the messages
- When you connect to the server after losing GPRS connection for a while, when it reconnects it displays new email message despite them not being new. Would you be able to limit the new email message to unread emails only?
Cheers for this excellent application, your effort is much appreciated
herman3101:
1) Yes, there are a number of settings which are currently ignored. The size limit of the initial download is also ignored. I have these on the bug-fixes list. The date limit on the downloads is slightly more complicated as the synchronizing is now constantly happening and so it might appear a bit strange if your messages suddenly disappear as their age 'expires'. I will think about that one.
2) Yes, the 'new email' notifications are a bit screwy. I will fix that asap.
hi geofreeygross
hi. this push email idea is excellent. despite your warning about wm2005. i still install on it and it doesnt work. my inbox when create a new account. i can see your mail option but after finish creating. the account doesnt appear and gprs cannot connect anymore after that. hard reset again. i really hope u will release a beta version for me to test. thank you.
hi. you said that wm2005 already support push email but need the exchange server. how to do that? i need to suscribe to who? is it free? thanks
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Hi there,
There is one icon in the Comm Manager program on my device that does not seem to work and I have no idea what it does. It is the third one from the top on the left hand side.
Tapping it does not do anything. :?
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Can someone clue me in?
if gprs is connected, you can use that buttong to disconnect from gprs
thats about it!!
searley said:
if gprs is connected, you can use that buttong to disconnect from gprs
thats about it!!
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Thank you!
The screenshot of the Comm Manager program in my JAMin manual does not show this icon (nor a few of the others), and as I rarely use GPRS I'd never noticed this icon active.
The mystery is solved!
activesync button
Does the activesync button work the same way? - only for disconnecting? Because I can't start activesync from the comm manager.
You are correct, only if Active Sync is connected this button becomes active.
activesync button
Actually, I don't understand how MS thinks... The comm manager should allow us to activate activesync directly.
Personally, I will not go to comm manager to disconnect my activesync as I can do that directly from the actual activesync screen itself. But to start activesync, it'll involve more than a few screen taps depending on how your device is set up. A 1 tap button from comm manager would be very nice...
I totally agree with you. For me, the ideal Comm Manager application would also allow me to set-up a GPRS connection, not only break it off. It would also allow me to turn on and off the infrared and make BT discoverable and non-discoverable with the app. I am glad that MS included more functions in the new Comm manager as compared to the old one without the GPRS, Push Email and Phone radio buttons, but it is still only half of what I want it to do. Hopefully in future releases they will change this. For now I use VJVolubilis, a nice app from Vijay555 that does everything the Comm Manager should be able to do, except for Push Email. VjVolubilis is now my central app for all connection-related issues.
Koksie: I may one day make a GUI for VJVolubilis, although as I've said before, it's actually just a spinoff from VJSihaya.
It should be noted that CommManager is HTC (I think), not MS, since I've got the Mio A701 and that doesn't have anything like CommManager
Of course, VJVolubilis still works on it...
I've not tried PushEmail... if someone tells me the necessary registry settings, I'll build them in. I'll have to see if I can get set up some time... let me find a free push email service.
V
Hi V,
Don't get me wrong, my post was by no means meant to comment on the lack of GUI of VjVolubilis. I am very happy with the app, I put the shortcuts in SPB Plus and in WM5NewMenu and have easy access to all connections now. I don't really need a GUI at all, the set-up I now have is very convenient for me. Of course adding the icons I liked was more difficult, ha ha. A GUI might be nice for other users, but for me it works perfectly like this.
Good point about HTC and MS, I wondered about that.
You can get a free push email account at mail2web.com. I have enabled it and tried it, works perfectly, but I don't have unlimited data yet and don't use it (hotmail is still my most used email. I know, old fashioned, but since everyone I know mails me on it I keep it. Unfortunately no email forwarding, MS has disabled that years ago to my dismay).
edit: If you want a Comm Manager on your A701, use the attached file. it worked well on my Wizard before I upgraded. It is only the old version (4 buttons), I have not been able to find the new one with more possibilities.
Koksie: no problem, I wasn't taking it as an offence about lack of GUI! Merely commenting on future plans.
Offtopic, and as I'm a moderator, feel free to spank me, but:
I've set up a mail2web account, and it works nicely.
However, I may be missing something, since I'm not sure if my Mio has push mail yet and I've never configured it before, but how do I configure push mail with mail2web?
I can see the option to sync when new mail arrives, but that requires a "text messaging address". Does mail2web provide one of those?
V
Hi V,
the text message address is the old push email method I think, in which the provider ( in this case mail2web) sends you the email in sms messages. Your text message address would be your phone number. The MS way of Push email on the new devices is done over GPRS and works like RIM's Blackberry, in which email is pushed by the Exchange Server to your device into your inbox. Push Email is only implemented in the new AKU2.0 ROMs. I don't know if your MIO has such a ROM and if ROM versions for the MIO are available with this feature. On my Wizard, enabling Pusk Email is done through the Comm Manager. I just have to fill in the Mail2web data in the Exchange Server settings in Active Sync and after enabling the push email service in the Comm Manager the service is activated. Hope this info helps you.
greetz, koksie
Koksie - very helpful, thanks! It's as I thought, I don't think the Mio has a push mail rom yet... I'll look into it further.. thanks again.
V
vijay555 said:
It should be noted that CommManager is HTC (I think), not MS, since I've got the Mio A701 and that doesn't have anything like CommManager
Of course, VJVolubilis still works on it...
V
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You're right, V... my mistake. I'm also using several of your awesome applications, but not VJVolubilis. I'll be taking another look at it. Thanx!
Need Help - Using Push Mail
Hi Koksie & Vj,
I'm very interested on the push email thing.
Could you help me to set up the push email step by step?
I've gone to mail2web.com but still cannot find a details way to set up the push email.
Thanks in advance.
I'm getting a Hermes, mainly for the push mail function. Although the problem is that I don't have access to an Exchange server, so I was wondering what services other people use and how they rate them. As I've mentionned in another post, I have a GMail account, and I'd like to try and keep that, although if need be I would be willing to setup another e-mail account.
Many thanks,
Dave
I use www.4smartphone.net and find it amazing. You have to pay a small fee to sign up but it is well worth it.
Mark
Am I right in thinking that I can't use that with my GMail account?
You can forward your gmail account to your exchange account. Gmail has an option to save mail on their server and forward at the same time. I do that.
I use Exchange hosting from http://www.1and1.com they'r reliable and cheapest. $20 for 3 months.
~Karanbir
1and1 has a cheap exchange server if you have a domain. (so like 5 a year for the domain plus whatever their exchange server cost).
It worked but I started to hate that I couldn't put in my "real" e-mail adress. (not sure if all servers are like this, but on theirs all your outgoing mail says exactly what your e-mail is, and I like to use a different reply to mail adress.)
So I stopped using it.
Here is an odd little aside though. The Flexmail beta version works as true push (even though you still can't select the push icon in the comm manager).
But the beta only worked on my everyone.net imap4 account and not on my 1and1 imap4...
mail2web
You can always use www.mail2web.com. And it's free. You get 1 gig e-mail address, push-mail, outlook web acces, and so on. Is supports ActiveSync over GPRS/3G. I think the only drawback is the connection speed, maybe country specific. I live in Romania, and it takes a little while to get synched, even on 3G connection. Anyway, push mail works really great.
Cheers
I too use mail2web. You can send "From:" the mail address of your choice (providing it's yours) as an extra service for a mere 60c per month or so. Otherwise it's free and works great.
Their free service doesn't allow you to set the "From" address to anything other than [email protected], 60c per month gets you anything you like.
Push email
I highly recommend http://www.cortado.com. Their service is fast, reliable and costs only about 6$ a month w/ a two month trial period for free. I have been using this service for about six months and have been very pleased with the service. Their Webmail menus have icons with labels in german, which aren't difficult to figure out. This isn't a problem for me as I hardly ever find myself needing to access my account via webmail.
Alternative solution
Well, I use my HERMES without the Push-Mail feature: As long as you use GPRS you can check your eMails every 5 Minutes without loosing considerably on battery life. I do that with my gMail account (POP3, SSL-encrypted) - works perfectly. Nice feature: gMail will automaticly archive all mails you collected via POP3.
No fees, no forwarding etc. and 5 minutes of "lag" should be ok for most of us.
To switch between 3G/UMTS and GPRS when needed and preserve battery you can use "BandSwitch" - you will find the free application on this site in the Hermes forums. Its beatifully designed.
I've been using mail2web also for quite a while now and I'm very happy with it. Best of all: it's free ;-)
if you don't mind leaving your desktop computer on all the time, then www.emoze.com is a viable option.
It runs an app on your desktop that "pushes" all the mail you receive in your Outlook inbox out to your device...
Yup - web2mail here too. It's free and I generally get my gmail mail pushed to my handset before it gets to my PC. No real complaints.
Also from this site there is http://www.port88.org/ which also free.
The main draw back that I have found from web2mail is that I can not overwrite the reply address to a non-'web2mail' address unfortunately.
Does anybody have any thoughts on how Push versus POP affects battery life?
MetalMushroom said:
Yup - web2mail here too. It's free and I generally get my gmail mail pushed to my handset before it gets to my PC. No real complaints.
Also from this site there is http://www.port88.org/ which also free.
The main draw back that I have found from web2mail is that I can not overwrite the reply address to a non-'web2mail' address unfortunately.
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I have the problem that I can sync over wifi with web2mail, but it doesn't work over 3G web 'n walk dutch t-mobile, any ideas?
Problem found; my 3G is not working on my current location................
lindseyp said:
I too use mail2web. You can send "From:" the mail address of your choice (providing it's yours) as an extra service for a mere 60c per month or so. Otherwise it's free and works great.
Their free service doesn't allow you to set the "From" address to anything other than [email protected], 60c per month gets you anything you like.
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Could you tell me where you found this extra 60c service? I can't find it anywhere on their site??
Mail2web definatly worth a go. I use the push mail feature but also use it as a backup for my contacts, calender and tasks.
REALLY worth it if you tend to flash new ROMs or HArd Reset quite often.
MetalMushroom said:
Yup - web2mail here too. It's free and I generally get my gmail mail pushed to my handset before it gets to my PC. No real complaints.
Also from this site there is http://www.port88.org/ which also free.
The main draw back that I have found from web2mail is that I can not overwrite the reply address to a non-'web2mail' address unfortunately.
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I have been using http://www.port88.org/ offering for a while now and it's very good, there is a thread on this here on xda-developers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273878
I also use the push mail on my Nokia N73 'play phone' which works great as well. There is good documentation for set up (one of which i wrote
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Does anybody have any thoughts on how Push versus POP affects battery life?
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I haven't done any testing but when I was just using pop email and checking every 15min then my battery life would maybe go down 10% during my 11hr shift..
Now with push email active I usually go home with around 50% battery life left..Seems to take around 40% more for me. If I used my phone alot it seems that it would be a problem for me..
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hi,is there a VGA version?!?!
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All,
I've let the first release of Imap Pusher Service out of the bag. It's still pretty rough, but if you configure it right, it works well enough that you may get a lot of enjoyment out of it.
The program runs in the background and subscribes to IMAP IDLE notifications. When the notifications arrive it can do a send/receive on the PocketOutlook account you specify, effectively enabling push email for your Gmail account (or other imap server that supports the IDLE command).
Again, there are some known issues with the current version (I will hopefully address these soon), but I would like to know what you think. Here's the link.
http://www.codeplex.com/ImapPusherService
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Changes: program will atttempt to connect data connection if not connected.
some resource leaks have been fixed, will hopefully prevent the hanging.
Update: version 0.6.0 is released
Changes: program allows you to save your settings, and will not prompt you next time you start it. To get the prompt again, currently you need to delete the settings file. Note that storing your settings stores your encrypted password on your device, and since this is an open source program, anyone can lookup how I do the encryption, so only use this option if you are comfortable, and change your email password if you lose your device!
Great
Great idea but... I can't manage to get it work.
I previously had a Gmail POP3 account which i setup to get mails manually.
Then I ran IMAPPusherservice, filled up parameters, OK... and then still waiting for emails...
What am I doing wrong ?
Thanks
Greg
gregouille said:
Great idea but... I can't manage to get it work.
I previously had a Gmail POP3 account which i setup to get mails manually.
Then I ran IMAPPusherservice, filled up parameters, OK... and then still waiting for emails...
What am I doing wrong ?
Thanks
Greg
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Maybe (hopefully) a simple solution, did you enable imap in your account settings in gmail?
It works great with my GMX account, well done!
But it uses 30% CPU if there is no data connection active, nor does Pocket Outlook play a sound when it receives the email...
works great!
Works great even with google apps gmail. Thanks
I'd like to mention once again the full service of Mail2Web. I'm very happy with it.
For those who don't know: they're offering Free Exchange-Accounts there.
This means you can sync your contacts, todo's, calendar and your e-mail with it. The Microsoft DirectPush is screaming fast!
But another solution i'm taking a deeper look into, is Z-Push. It's an opensource implementation of the ActiveSync protocoll. Which basically means you'd be able to have the same functionality as with an Exchange-Server.
It runs out of the box with a php-enabled webspace (need the right to set aliases via .htaccess). Had to figure it out myself, but the guys in the fora are kind. Another advantage of this solution (beside it is OpenSource and you can extend it yourself) is the possibility to plug it onto various groupware solution.
BTW: Push-GMail is the most popular example in the forum there.
Sry for my english..
Greetz
i have problems with .net framework.
which one do i need?
snudel said:
i have problems with .net framework.
which one do i need?
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I use .net framework 3.5
yeah, this release is quite a rough cut. its not very graceful if you enter your password incorrectly (double chck this if its not getting new mail). Or if you don't have the data connection runing already. for now it would be best to tell your data conection to sty on. I'm on a kaiser and I can easily use kaiser tweaks to do this. ad it was the default mode for my ppc6700 with sprint.
the reason why i'm bothering with this rather mail2web is that with mail2web you are entrusting your mail with yet another party, when google now supports everything you need for push obo.
anyway, if you configure this guy appropriately, even this early release should work for you. but if you are having trouble I hope to have a release out soon that wil identify your problems with ease. it just neds to contend with all the work I get paid to do ;-)
At the moment it requires .NET CF 3.5. This isn't strictly necessary from a functionality standpoint at the moment though, so I may try and downgrade it, if thats a problem.
client seems to disconnect, and not reconnect, after a while (mine was connected for a good 36 hours, this last time). I will have to track this down when I release a version with more tracing information (hopefully tonight).
this would be a great application to have once it starts working properly.
right now i use this other app whcih is a sms switch. you forward gmail to your sms address. when your phone gets the incoming sms for new mail, it automatically opens up poutlock and send/receives and gets you the new mail. this works great because you dont need to always be connected. it only connects when you get new mail. only problem is it uses SMS so if you dont have a unlimited text plan it's gonna really hurt you.
if you can develop this program it would be a great alternative. it would be even better if you dont always have to be connected as to save battery power.
The reason why I have released this is that it works pretty darn well now. With a glitch or two. IMAP IDLE, like ActiveSynch Direct Push require an open data connection though, because of the way that they work. The key is that they don't have to be broadcasting all the time, though. This works pretty well battery wise for most modern phones.
Any other form of notification would have to come through the data interaction your phone makes with the cell towers (like SMS), so you would probably have to pay for it (like SMS).
I've noticed that the new iPhone SDK has some allowance for notification routing, but I would assume this relies on keeping a data connection open.
version .2 is released, check first post for details.
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At the moment it requires .NET CF 3.5. This isn't strictly necessary from a functionality standpoint at the moment though, so I may try and downgrade it, if thats a problem.
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I've been looking for something like this for quite some time now. I'll give the current version a try. Being that most devices come with .NET CF, it would be nice if it wasn't dependent on 3.5.
version .21 is released, should be more stable, see first post or project page for details.
version 0.22 is released, check first post for details.
i have subscribed and keepin my eye out on each release. version .21 worked on and off. it didnt retrieve mail as fast as it should and sometimes it didnt retrieve at all. will try new version soon. thanks for developing it.
do you need to have your inbox running on the ppc for this to work or will it automatically open the inbox? just wondering if i should keep the inbox open in the background at all times as well. i tried it with the box open and close and it didnt work that time so it may be a glitch since it works sometimes when the box was open. but when i tried again with it open and close it didnt work so hard to tell.
I'm now test the lastest version.. I would really like the following features:
- save settings in .ini file
- auto start service if windows mobile starts
- Auto dial if no internet connection is present
This is great, it's working really well. I second the above post about saving the settings and auto-starting, but I'm guessing that's something you're planning on adding anyway?
I used to have Outlook check my Gmail account over IMAP every ten minutes and drop the data connection after two minutes of inactivity. I'm not sure what kind of effect leaving the data connection permanently on will have on my battery, but I'm certainly willing to give it a go for a day or two to see. Emails sent to myself as a test are coming through in well under thirty seconds from sending, and that's over a slow GPRS connection.
The area I live in doesn't have the best reception though, being virtually out in the sticks and all. I've not left the house since installing this, but what can I expect if I temporarily have no signal and the data connection drops? Will I start getting "Cannot connect" type error messages?
Thanks for your hard work, I'll be keeping a close eye on this one.
I can't get the standard mail client to work with my company's exchange server. Touchdown on other devices works fine. I haven't tried Touchdown on the Xoom yet, I'm sure it will work fine, but I thought Honeycomb was supposed to have all of this straightened out. Tablet has a pin and is already running in encrypted mode.
Not sure what else to try. Of course this just works on the iPad and IT is rubbing it in...
Do other android devices work? I use corp exchange and it has worked on stock android for me in 2.1,2.2 and 2.3.
You could try k9 mail, it's always a little more updated than the stock app.
EDIT: Also, when I setup my exchange mail I have to not include the domain name.
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I can't get the standard mail client to work with my company's exchange server. Touchdown on other devices works fine. I haven't tried Touchdown on the Xoom yet, I'm sure it will work fine, but I thought Honeycomb was supposed to have all of this straightened out. Tablet has a pin and is already running in encrypted mode.
Not sure what else to try. Of course this just works on the iPad and IT is rubbing it in...
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I unfortunately cannot help you but can verify that the email app works fine with Exchange 2003 and SSL for me.
works fine with my exchange. i think i had to edit server settings manually. like you enter
"[email protected]"
server settings was set to "company.com"
i had to edit server setting to "webmail.company.com" to get it work
I use Kerio at work (I know this is an Exchange Thread, but Kerio uses ActiveSync, and the corp sync account), and have been really underwhelmed with the email setup.
I get contacts, email, and my one personal calendar, but none of the exposed public folders, public contact lists, or public calendars that my DroidX sees.
I was hoping as well that honeycomb would have these kinks worked out. Sucks to have Gmail be the "main" supported interface, and not really have a robust corp choice.
as a side note, there's a "Touchdown for Tablets" app that works fine with your old touchdown license key and offers more real estate, but I'm just sick of having to use a third party app, and am just using my phone for now. The office is going to Exchange sometime this year, and I can hold out on the tablet until then.
Xooms exchange support is fine. In fact it has the most support its ever had. I use it with both a 2003 and a exchange 2007 server and both were a breeze to setup. The 2003 server does not even have a valid SSL cert and it still was easy.
That being said I would still recommend touchdown. It gives you tons more options and does work pretty darn well. Their tablet support is still a little rough but they will quickly get it better.
Xooms exchange support is fine, best its ever been. I use it both a 2003 and 2007 server and both were a synch to setup.
I would recommend Touchdown though. It has tons more options and is pretty slick. It looks pretty good on tablets but has a few rough edges because of the huge screen.
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Xooms exchange support is fine, best its ever been. I use it both a 2003 and 2007 server and both were a synch to setup.
I would recommend Touchdown though. It has tons more options and is pretty slick. It looks pretty good on tablets but has a few rough edges because of the huge screen.
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Are you referring to the "Touchdown for Tablets" version?
graphicsman said:
I can't get the standard mail client to work with my company's exchange server. Touchdown on other devices works fine. I haven't tried Touchdown on the Xoom yet, I'm sure it will work fine, but I thought Honeycomb was supposed to have all of this straightened out. Tablet has a pin and is already running in encrypted mode.
Not sure what else to try. Of course this just works on the iPad and IT is rubbing it in...
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What exactly is it doing? I was having problems trying to add my Exchange account when I went through Settings, Accounts. It was telling me my address/password combo was incorrect, and I couldn't get past it.
I tried withing the email app itself, and I could access the manual settings. That worked fine.
Moral of the story is: if you were trying to add from Settings, try adding from within the email app.
I'm adding from within the mail app. I literally get a popup after it talks to the server saying "Server requires security features that your Android device does not support". Identical setup works on iPad and iPhone. I'll try again tomorrow with touchdown.
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Are you referring to the "Touchdown for Tablets" version?
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Yea touchdown for tablets. Although I have used the regular touchdown for a long time on my Droid Phone and it was good as well.
Dan
graphicsman said:
I'm adding from within the mail app. I literally get a popup after it talks to the server saying "Server requires security features that your Android device does not support". Identical setup works on iPad and iPhone. I'll try again tomorrow with touchdown.
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Hmm. Sounds like your exchange organization has some restrictions set in the "Exchange ActiveSync Mailbox Policies" that maybe the Xoom does not support. Sounds like the Xoom is saying I can't fully support the security policy they are asking for so for the orginizations sake it's not going to not permit you to setup email.
Using this policy they can Force things in the policy like requiring a password, requiring encryption, password expiration, etc etc. Even items like disabling some features of the "phone" are settable. Every version of Exchange Supports more and more options. As you can see from the attached screenshots of the options from exchange 2007 it has a ton of them.
Luckily mine are not set very stringent. I don't know which one(s) xoom doesn't support but given the multitude of them. It could be a few.
Talk to your Exchange admin and tell them to mellow out on the restrictions some. They CAN setup a policy just for you that is less restrictive. Or try touchdown it may allow you to setup.
Dan
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+1 on despich's response.
Buy your Exchange admin a coke (or something he likes), show him your Xoom, and ask him why he thinks you're receiving that error.
Odds are, he'll be enthralled with your Xoom, and will want to get it to work. Odds are, it's some random security policy that needs to be relaxed, though I can't think of what it could be at the moment (based on the error you received), as 3.0 supports full encryption and PIN security, which are the typical security policies enforced.
Touchdown works great. I transferred my regular version (didn't know there was a tablet version) to my Xoom and it works just fine
Aside from the fact it asked for permission for remote wipe of my device from my school, our school's .edu exchange server through outlook.com went swimmingly with stock application.
I mention it because my school does, in fact, have some ridiculous policies associated with the server.
In OWA you can go to the mobile phone tab and turn on logging to see what is happening.
graphicsman said:
I can't get the standard mail client to work with my company's exchange server. Touchdown on other devices works fine. I haven't tried Touchdown on the Xoom yet, I'm sure it will work fine, but I thought Honeycomb was supposed to have all of this straightened out. Tablet has a pin and is already running in encrypted mode.
Not sure what else to try. Of course this just works on the iPad and IT is rubbing it in...
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OP: *edited*
All of the advice above is valid but I will share my experience. In short the exchange auto discovery process seems a little less forgiving than in this OS than some others I have played with. Thes others include, other android versions, ios, and WinMo. The advice about having to use the manual process was the a key for me but I will add some specifics.
My company has changed the name of its exchange server a couple of times in the last few years. Our exchange
Server for webmail and phones was "vexxxx.com", later it was "webmail.vexxxx.com" and later still it was "exwebmail.vexxxx.com."
for some reason other OS have been better able to find the correct server during autolocate but this client stopped trying at the first address "vexxxx.com" the trick is knowing figuring out that address if you don't know it.
If getting the correct info from IT is not convenient you can try this. If you have webmail access for this account you may be able to observe the correct server adress in the URL bar of your desktop web browser when you are at the login page.
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Touchdown has never failed me. I just wish they would clean up their user interface. The native Honeycomb mail clients are crisp and clean, with nice usability touches. Touchdown is long past due to adopt a similar cleaner interface. Until then, it stays off the Xoom.
Right, Touchdown never fails but its like Excel invaded your mail client.
Setup was painless I am on exchange 2010 as well as 2007. Great exchange support
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