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First post from my new Rogers magic. Thought I would start a thread for Rogers users to discuss it. So far I'm loving the form factor compared to the g1!
Haven't rooted yet...

Thanks for the report. Could you confirm which umts band it has? Do you think if it will compatible with ATT and TMO-US's networks? Thanks.

lovebeta said:
Thanks for the report. Could you confirm which umts band it has? Do you think if it will compatible with ATT and TMO-US's networks? Thanks.
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Here you go: GSM/GPRS/EDGE Bands: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA/UMTS Dual-Band: 850/1900 MHz
Best choice I think would be ATT for the 850 band (I think ATT is on 850?) It will work on Tmobile, but I'm not sure you would have 3G. Obviously being from Canada I'm not as familiar with their spectrums, but I'm sure someone else can confirm.

Same form factor as my HTC Ion.
It will have AT&T 3G since Rogers uses the same bands (850 and 1900).
T-Mobile customers have to wait until the Magic to be launched here in the States.

froesei said:
First post from my new Rogers magic. Thought I would start a thread for Rogers users to discuss it. So far I'm loving the form factor compared to the g1!
Haven't rooted yet...
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Sweet. Just ordered mine on-line, a little disappointing they only had the Black Magic to choose from.
Congrats!

So is there a website for people living in the U.S. to order a Rogers Magic, or is the Rogers branded Magic only available in Canada?

redrazr7791 said:
So is there a website for people living in the U.S. to order a Rogers Magic, or is the Rogers branded Magic only available in Canada?
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Only available in Canada but you could probably find them on eBay or howardforums B/S/T.

Ok, so if you find a retailer that has the Roger's Magic, would it be unlocked or specifically branded to Rogers, to where you would have to get an unlock code?

redrazr7791 said:
Ok, so if you find a retailer that has the Roger's Magic, would it be unlocked or specifically branded to Rogers, to where you would have to get an unlock code?
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I THINK, but don't quote me on this, that if you root the device you should be able to use it on other networks that use the same frequencies. I'm happy to be corrected if that's not the case...

Dang, so I take it...it comes locked specifically for Rogers only? The last thing I want to do is root my $600 phone and probably...knowing my luck...f*ck it up LOL

redrazr7791 said:
Dang, so I take it...it comes locked specifically for Rogers only? The last thing I want to do is root my $600 phone and probably...knowing my luck...f*ck it up LOL
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Just wait... THere will be enterprising ppl to figure out how to unlock it.

Yea I found two websites that sell the unlocked Vodafone version, IMPORTGSM.com and Timtechs.com but do not know how "GOOD" they are. I also just got an email from Rogers.com stating that their phones do come "locked"....ugh T-mobile USA needs to get on this phone already lol.

T-Mobile will release this within the next 3 weeks (end of June or early July). If you want to take advantage of T-Mobile US 3G, wait for the T-Mobile US version or get the Google Ion.
The Rogers HTC Magic is perfect for AT&T users since it has AT&T 3G bands.

Thanks backviet, read your answer over on howards also. I guess i will just have to wait, like you mentioned.....dang!

Yeah, just got mine as well. Things are looking good so far. Only bad spot is, is the exchange activesync that apparently doesnt work (not sure if it's some sort of extension that is needed...there's not much info on it). Anyone else get a problem synching up exchange and getting a "Failed to create the account" Error?
Going to try to solve that later today...

that's strange...i work at a rogers store and as i was playing with a magic today, and i had no problem connecting to our exchange server. you would think that both are running the same software so exchange support would be the same.
we're sold out of magic's so i won't be able to try it out till we get more.
i'm actually thinking about picking one up as well, although i'm not 100% sold on it, it's def. a much nicer device than the dream, at least imo.

Multimedia
Hey guys, just picked up my Magic yesturday from Rogers and loving it. So much fun. Now I am wondering how do we upload pictures and music and videos onto our phone? I plugged it to my PC but unable to access the MicroSD card. Is there a program manager that needs to be downloaded first? Thanks

How do you Root the Rogers ones ?

DarknessTM said:
How do you Root the Rogers ones ?
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you cant just yet

Got myself one two days ago when it came, its pretty good... only problem i had was the wifi kept hanging a simple Settings -> Wifi -> menu -> advance > wifi sleep policy to "never" fixed it.... other than that its pretty good i plan to start some development on the android platform

Rogers Sapphire on AT&T 3G?

Just a curious question, is there a possibility that an HTC Sapphire/Magic from Rogers will work on AT&T's network?

Gunmoku said:
Just a curious question, is there a possibility that an HTC Sapphire/Magic from Rogers will work on AT&T's network?
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I can confirm that it will work on AT&T's 3G coz I'm using it in NYC

so its not locked??? cuz i tried it with the fido sim and it worked....

Apparently
I read that pretty much all current HTC GSM devices from Europe and Asia do indeed work on American 3G networks. For the longest time we were tricked into thinking the HTC Touch HD only worked on American Edge networks. However, a recent document released by HTC proves that it does have support for American 3G bands. I am waiting for the HTC hero to come out for ORANGE. At which point I will drop the big bucks to get it early.

Thats incorrect. the Touch HD papers were before the phone was even released, so those specs were never real. 3G networks in europe uses 2100 whereas at&t in the US uses 850/1900 3G bands. Not compatible.
But Rogers in canada uses the same exact bands as at&t usa. So you will have 3G in america. (Afterall Rogers used to be "Rogers at&t"

internet spazed, double posted. Someone plz delete this post.

I'm on Rogers HTC Magic too on AT&T in California, 3G works fine. You just need to sim unlock it and you're good to go.

Same thing. 3G AT&T in California.

can you guys see all paid apps including documents to go by dataviz? I just purchased a unlocked rogers magic and I can only see some paid apps but not all? Can one of you guys check your appstore? Thanks

motionUS said:
can you guys see all paid apps including documents to go by dataviz? I just purchased a unlocked rogers magic and I can only see some paid apps but not all? Can one of you guys check your appstore? Thanks
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It's locked in the ROM it looks like, because not even market enabler lets me see everything.

Can you see "documents to go" by dataviz on your unlocked rogers magic (not rooted)?

motionUS said:
Can you see "documents to go" by dataviz on your unlocked rogers magic (not rooted)?
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Rooted or no. It's not showing up because Rogers locked down the market a bit through the ROM on the phone.

tribalmunky said:
Rooted or no. It's not showing up because Rogers locked down the market a bit through the ROM on the phone.
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That sucks, so I guess a true sim unlocked phone (not rooted) would have full access to paid apps unless as you are saying rogers has limited the paid apps through the rom.
I was able to purchase copilot today. It seems very strange that I could buy copilot but can't see documents to go.
Is there anyway to remove this lock down on the market? If rogers releases a update to open up the market will our phone get this update?

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That sucks, so I guess a true sim unlocked phone (not rooted) would have full access to paid apps unless as you are saying rogers has limited the paid apps through the rom.
I was able to purchase copilot today. It seems very strange that I could buy copilot but can't see documents to go.
Is there anyway to remove this lock down on the market?
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There's a app called Market Enabler, but it doesn't work.

tribalmunky said:
There's a app called Market Enabler, but it doesn't work.
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from my understanding market enabler would work if you root. The downside of rooting is than losing access to copyright protected apps.

motionUS said:
from my understanding market enabler would work if you root. The downside of rooting is than losing access to copyright protected apps.
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I tried it when I first rooted and I didn't notice any difference.

sorry to necro a bit on this one.
I just picked up the google ION and I also have AT&T cell service (in southern NJ).
So far I have only been able to use edge connections, I have yet to see 3G kick in. I checked the AT&T coverage map and I should be soaked in 3G so Im curious if there are any settings/tweaks I can apply to activate 3G on the ION.
I can confirm that the ION has the proper radios (850/1900) just like the rogers version of the magic.
I would absolutely love to have 3G enabled on this phone so any info would be greatly appreciated.
For reference, the only APN i have set up is wap.cingular (ive looked at many other lists but this is the only one I got to work with data [edge]... this is the only one tech support from ATT gave me that worked as well).
Thanks!

keener31 said:
I can confirm that the ION has the proper radios (850/1900) just like the rogers version of the magic.
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Thats right, it has the right radio frequencies for EDGE. The Ion has 1700/2100 3G bands and there is absolutely no way to get ATT 3G as the frequencies are hard coded into the hardware. Switch to Tmobile if you want 3G on the Ion as it is essentially a MyTouch 3G

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Thats right, it has the right radio frequencies for EDGE. The Ion has 1700/2100 3G bands and there is absolutely no way to get ATT 3G as the frequencies are hard coded into the hardware. Switch to Tmobile if you want 3G on the Ion as it is essentially a MyTouch 3G
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ahhh, so just having the supported bands is not enough, it has to be on the correct specific radio? ive been googling my ass off about this and thats the first concrete response/piece of information ive seen. many thanks.
in light of that information, would I be able to pick up a rogers magic and have it work with ATT 3G then? From what ive read here it appears that the rogers magic has 850/1900 as its 3G radio, correct?
looks like im going to have to put this ion back on ebay, ugh.

yah if you get a rogers magic then you will be good.

Need help on carrier change

Hello everyone!
It's my first post here, I'll try to make this simple and understandable.
I've got an HTC Vogue (obviously), unlocked it last week, installed NFSFAN's ROM, everything is fine. The phone is currently out of plan, which means my contract ended. I want to change carrier (currently on Bell's CDMA), but I don't know where to start. Basically, I want to go with Fido. I read alot about PRL and those ESN, CDMA Tools, etc... Just want some help and small how-to on changing the carrier from Bell to Fido. I have another phone which is with Fido, (LG Neon). Can I get the carrier informations from this phone with some software/hardware or just common sense method (like calling them). At the store, they told me they couldn't get my phone on their network because it was with Bell, but I know there's a way of doing it.. There's a way for everything, and this must be easy.
I qualify myself as moderately advanced in computer skills, so don't be shy to share even the most complicated methods of doing it!

Bump. No one did this before till the Touch Vogue was released?...

I sent you a pm about this a few days ago.

Bell=CDMA
Fido=GSM
Can't switch.
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Somewhat true up until last year. New phones that use SIM cards for Bell/Telus HSDPA network are now interchangeable with Rogers via some handiwork.
But yeah, the Touch is, well, a little bit older no SIM cards for her.
You should be able to switch to another CDMA network though, like Sprint (in the US) or Telus.

edgevision said:
Somewhat true up until last year. New phones that use SIM cards for Bell/Telus HSDPA network are now interchangeable with Rogers via some handiwork.
But yeah, the Touch is, well, a little bit older no SIM cards for her.
You should be able to switch to another CDMA network though, like Sprint (in the US) or Telus.
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But HOW?

Bypassing AT&T

Picked up an Aria and immediately found I was heading overseas. Managed to get it unlocked and put a new sim in, but now it will not connect to 3G networks. It will connect to edge quite nicely though.
HTC told me that the only way to have 3G access was to have the AT&T sim in the phone. I really doubt that, and after reading the threads on here I think I have come to the right place to find a work around.
So any suggestions or fixes??
If this is something easy please forgive the newb.

If you are still in the United States, are you using T-Mobile? If so then the 3g bands are different from At&t's. It will only connect to edge. Also if you go anywhere outside the US then the same is true.

I would think that were the case if the sim carried the frequency settings but the phone does correct?
I am in Israel and when the AT&T sim is in the unlocked Aria I have 3G, put Cellcoms sim in the Aria and 3G goes away. Now if I put the same Cellcom sim in an unlocked mytouch 3G, well there is 3G again. All of this is happening on the cellcom network by the way. So that tells me that there has to be some setting that AT&T's sim is tripping either when inserted or removed??
Now does that make sense..... Or not?

hmmm... that is a pickle then. I couldn't tell you about that. You might want to contact Cellcom and ask them personally about it. I don't know if there is a settings file that changes that. I know it only comes with two bands and maybe the at&t sim is connecting you to another network that you didn't list and maybe that is the mix up.

Yea sat with one of their guys for 2.5 hours yesterday. Was making him crazy, that is why I broke down and called HTC. Thanks for the input.

att aria 3g freqs 850/1900
tmobile touch3g 3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
looks that cellcom carrier freqs are the same as tmobiles since aria does not support those u wont get 3g just edge

Il.spooky said:
Picked up an Aria and immediately found I was heading overseas. Managed to get it unlocked and put a new sim in, but now it will not connect to 3G networks.
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How did you get it unlocked, if you may share?

Gorilla800lbs said:
How did you get it unlocked, if you may share?
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just call customer service in the usa its(was-idk if it still is) a law that companies must unlock upon users request

Nope the law went away...again. They claimed there were no unlock codes yet. I found a place online it was called "HTCsimunlock" I think. Anywho they sent me the code after about 30 min.
BTW. Figured it out have 3G now but only in certain areas with Cellcom. Still working on making it everywhere.
Thanks for the help everybody.

Great, thanks!

[Q] Possible to Unlock?

Hi I wanted to buy this pone from amazon, but the thing is that I would buy the sprint versión with no contract and I don't live in the US, so my question is, can I unlock this pone to use it with any other company? like Movistar? I read that the pone was GSM so I thought it would be posible, however I won't take the risk of paying 590 dollars for a pone that I can't use, thanks

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Won't work. Sprint is NOT gsm
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hyelton said:
Won't work. Sprint is NOT gsm
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if you dont know dont tell !! sprint s4 (gsm-cdma) but gsm its locked (low level lock )

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if you dont know dont tell !! sprint s4 (gsm-cdma) but gsm its locked (low level lock )
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What do you mean if I dont know dont tell? What does that supposed to mean?
I KNOW my Cellular Networks!
Sprint is a CDMA Network!
The ONLY part about sprint that is NOT CDMA is LTE which the sim card slot is LOCKED to sprint.
They MIGHT be a fix but right now there is NOT. Some of the older phones like the Moto Photon its not LTE but its a world phone and people could flash a few things and make it work, But only EDGE in the USA anyway.
But as of right now and problay for a while its NOT going to work.

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What do you mean if I dont know dont tell? What does that supposed to mean?
I KNOW my Cellular Networks!
Sprint is a CDMA Network!
The ONLY part about sprint that is NOT CDMA is LTE which the sim card slot is LOCKED to sprint.
They MIGHT be a fix but right now there is NOT. Some of the older phones like the Moto Photon its not LTE but its a world phone and people could flash a few things and make it work, But only EDGE in the USA anyway.
But as of right now and problay for a while its NOT going to work.
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Thats right sprint CDMA provider YES! but sprint announce more cdma-gsm phones (like blackberry) now sprint sell locked phones (htcone , S4)and this man need know maybe he unlock phone for him country(i think he live in spain(movistar as i know its spain company! right now he not can use gsm in this phone but i think i found solution maybe via nv maybe via modem patch !
sorry for my english )its not my own language !

LIAM83 said:
Thats right sprint CDMA provider YES! but sprint announce more cdma-gsm phones (like blackberry) now sprint sell locked phones (htcone , S4)and this man need know maybe he unlock phone for him country(i think he live in spain(movistar as i know its spain company! right now he not can use gsm in this phone but i think i found solution maybe via nv maybe via modem patch !
sorry for my english )its not my own language !
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Modem patch is not even possible with this phone right now... The phones are ONLY meant to run on GSM for LTE data and NOTHING ELSE

hyelton said:
Modem patch is not even possible with this phone right now... The phones are ONLY meant to run on GSM for LTE data and NOTHING ELSE
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bro you not right ! not only for lte data ! if we unlock this phone we can use it in at&t voice and data and t-mobile too ! belive me i know all about samsung phones !!

LIAM83 said:
bro you not right ! not only for lte data ! if we unlock this phone we can use it in at&t voice and data and t-mobile too ! belive me i know all about samsung phones !!
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I expect Sprint will provide a method soon to unlock the GSM and UMTS functions in the phone to be able to use it internationally. However, I don't expect the GSM and UMTS functions to operate inside the US. Sprint has always disabld them on GSM capable Android and iOS devices it sells.

I don't see why it wouldn't work for you as long as you can get it unlocked.
Sprint is not going to unlock it for you unless you are a long time customer or have the phone with them for 90 days.
hyelton is completely wrong though.. the sim does authenticate lte on sprint but also acts as a gsm sim internationally.
you can also remove the sim and insert any international sim once unlocked providing the carrier uses the correct bands.

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Modem patch is not even possible with this phone right now... The phones are ONLY meant to run on GSM for LTE data and NOTHING ELSE
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You are all kinds of WRONG.
Sprint's GS4 is fully capable of voice and data on international GSM/HSPA+/UMTS 850/900/1900/2100MHz networks. You have to request Sprint to unlock your phone's sim (or find a work around if you're not a Sprint customer), but once unlocked you can pop in any international sim and it will WORK JUST FINE on international GSM networks, they don't have to support LTE. Heck the only thing preventing the SG4 from working on US GSM networks is Sprint locked the Sim from using USofA GSM carrier sim cards.
As long as the OP can get their Sprint SG4 sim unlocked, they can pop in their international sim and use the GSM in their country NO PROBLEM like any other GSM phone.
SO ONCE AGAIN, Sprint's SG4 has a fully functioning GSM modem that supports international carrier GSM/HSPA+/UMTS 850/900/1900/2100MHz bands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You would think someone with almost 2,000 posts and who made a statement like "I KNOW my Cellular Networks!" would know better. Do yourself a huge favor and actually know what you're talking about before you go spouting off again, because you really made yourself look like an ignorant fool.

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You are all kinds of WRONG.
Sprint's GS4 is fully capable of voice and data on international GSM/HSPA+/UMTS 850/900/1900/2100MHz networks. You have to request Sprint to unlock your phone's sim (or find a work around if you're not a Sprint customer), but once unlocked you can pop in any international sim and it will WORK JUST FINE on international GSM networks, they don't have to support LTE. Heck the only thing preventing the SG4 from working on US GSM networks is Sprint locked the Sim from using USofA GSM carrier sim cards.
As long as the OP can get their Sprint SG4 sim unlocked, they can pop in their international sim and use the GSM in their country NO PROBLEM like any other GSM phone.
SO ONCE AGAIN, Sprint's SG4 has a fully functioning GSM modem that supports international carrier GSM/HSPA+/UMTS 850/900/1900/2100MHz bands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You would think someone with almost 2,000 posts and who made a statement like "I KNOW my Cellular Networks!" would know better. Do yourself a huge favor and actually know what you're talking about before you go spouting off again, because you really made yourself look like an ignorant fool.
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Well YES you can easily use your phone overseas, But it was POSTED in the Sprint Forum which is ONLY in the USA and in which using it does NOT apply in the USA. And to get the phone unlocked I`m not sure if a regular unlocking company would be able to do it someone with a sprint account would and it would be MUCH more trouble than just to pick up a ACTUAL GSM carriers Version of the phone.( I should had just said that to begin with) Its VERY pointless to TRY and want to use the sprint Version when they are SEVERAL OTHER varrients that are GSM they could have got to use.

EXCEPT... the op specifically said they wanted to purchase it from Amazon America to use on their country's GSM network.
Why they want to do that? WHO KNOWS, maybe it might be cheaper doing it this way, but that is what they want to do and despite all your unnecessary wrongful information, the OP can do what they asked as long as they can get the sim unlocked.

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EXCEPT... again EXCEPT the op specifically said they wanted to purchase it from Amazon America to use on their country's GSM network.
Why they want to do that? WHO KNOWS, maybe it might be cheaper doing it this way, but that is what they want to do.
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I sell on Amazon and Most people wont ship out of the USA on Amazon. Mostly only Candia but Ive tried ordering a lot of things overseas and 90% I cant as they wont ship here

Amazon sells the Sprint for $599 this is probably why. I bought mine at Best Buy and had them price match Amazon for that price.
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Yea but out of country cant buy FROM sprint...
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Looks like everyone here is an expert in this matter but so far haven't seen a single link to reputable sources... OP call sprint international department and get answer straight from the carrier (888) 226-7212
Even IF the phone is capable of being used in GSM bands internationally, you would have to get it unlocked by sprint and they change policies all the time so just call..
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I got my phone unlocked for international use. I contacted sprint international services. I was initially told that you have to be activated for at least 90 days before they could unlock the phone but would forward my request to some department. After one day I got a email that my phone has been unlocked.

fusiondynamics said:
I got my phone unlocked for international use. I contacted sprint international services. I was initially told that you have to be activated for at least 90 days before they could unlock the phone but would forward my request to some department. After one day I got a email that my phone has been unlocked.
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They unlocked Sprint Galaxy 4?

mkang said:
They unlocked Sprint Galaxy 4?
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Yea.... but it ONLY works internationally AND you have to be a sprint customer.
The POINT I have been trying to get across is that people need to understand Sprint is a CDMA carrier and ONLY relies on GSM for LTE. I think what people think is that they are solely a gsm carrier like most of the world is but its NOT
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