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How about maximize batery lifetime downclocking CPU - from 1 GHz is plenty of space !!!
Using nueDinamicClock or something similar ??!
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Azitrox said:
How about maximize batery lifetime downclocking CPU - from 1 GHz is plenty of space !!!
Using nueDinamicClock or something similar ??!
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As far as I know nueDynamic Clock only works for the older chipsets. As Snapdragon has a different architecture it might not work. But not entirely sure.
Something similar ...
It is not working , of course .
I tried myself , and it can`t be instaled.
But some similar soft , or registry tweak ?
Chalenge for chefs !
Every new Rom release is focusing on Speed and stability , but not a SINGLE one on batery life !!!
Why is that ? Is not Important to you to have an extended period of uptime for your device ?
Here is a chalenge for you Chefs !
Develop a stable Rom with low consumption and great batery life !
Thanks !
Azitrox said:
How about maximize batery lifetime downclocking CPU - from 1 GHz is plenty of space !!!
Using nueDinamicClock or something similar ??!
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the toshiba tg01 has a built in application to do that if we could extract it it will be nice
Anyone ?
Nothing yet ?
The battery life on this phone is pitiful. The phone is professional liability without a spare battery or charger on you. Which totally defeats the purpose of making it slim.
If you cant travel without an extra batter or usb cable then HTC should have just put a bigger bulker battery in.
What happened to practical design. The phone has to function above all else. If you want snapdragon processing (which we all do) you must have a large capacity battery.
Nobody who owns and HD2 can expect to get through a full day of using the phone without the need for juice. I run out of power every single day and I am constantly enabling the in flight wireless shut off to save power.
Which of course means I risk missing phone calls.
Beyond that (and the audio lag) its a great device. Its just not ready for everyone yet. It operates like a prototype for a great phone for me.
TopOfNewYork said:
The battery life on this phone is pitiful. The phone is professional liability without a spare battery or charger on you. Which totally defeats the purpose of making it slim.
If you cant travel without an extra batter or usb cable then HTC should have just put a bigger bulker battery in.
What happened to practical design. The phone has to function above all else. If you want snapdragon processing (which we all do) you must have a large capacity battery.
Nobody who owns and HD2 can expect to get through a full day of using the phone without the need for juice. I run out of power every single day and I am constantly enabling the in flight wireless shut off to save power.
Which of course means I risk missing phone calls.
Beyond that (and the audio lag) its a great device. Its just not ready for everyone yet. It operates like a prototype for a great phone for me.
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I get 3 days out of mine from a single charge. I don't have any push services or overly regular updates. Apart from 1 email account that checks every 15 minutes, I set the others to every hour, set the weather update to every hour and set MyPhone to only run once a week. I was always a little cynical about people saying they could get longer than a day out of it, but then I actually tried it and it works.
Anyway, back to the OP. From what I've read on here, you don't need to "under-clock" the CPU as the chip only runs at its required speed - that's part of the Snapdragon design. Like I said - I'm just repeating what I've read on here.
...but it's already under-clocked during normal usage.
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...but it's already under-clocked during normal usage.
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Are you SURE ?!!!
Get Yourself the new extended battery with 2300 mAh: problem solved
(and now don´t come and say it´s ugly then, either ...... or ......... )
Q.E.D
Finally , the tool I need !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682663
Thanks NetRipper !
A suggestion , if I may :
A new version with dynamic change : when the phone is locked , the cpu goes 200Mhz , when unlock 1000 Mhz !
Is it possible ?
Thanks again !
Search for LeoCPUSpeed
You didn't read his post and follow his link to that exact program, did you?
I was wondering if anybody would be so kind as to give me some pros/cons about overclocking my phone. Or a link to a topic as I'm sure there already is one, I searched but could not find.
Thanks,
Stew
calripkenturner said:
I was wondering if anybody would be so kind as to give me some pros/cons about overclocking my phone. Or a link to a topic as I'm sure there already is one, I searched but could not find.
Thanks,
Stew
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PROS: Your phone goes faster!
It goes slower while it's asleep, so more battery (as long as you program the profile in setcpu)!
CONS:Your phone might overheat.
Thanks man I appreciate the response. When you say overheat do you mean the battery, or the actual phone? haha
calripkenturner said:
Thanks man I appreciate the response. When you say overheat do you mean the battery, or the actual phone? haha
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First one, then the other
calripkenturner said:
Thanks man I appreciate the response. When you say overheat do you mean the battery, or the actual phone? haha
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Why would one, and not the other? They are touching, and crammed together....
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Why would one, and not the other? They are touching, and crammed together....
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Idk just thought I should ask....
I just figure the phone has a failsafe. I have mine at 768 and only gets ridiculously hot when charging running Google navigation. Otherwise it's just slightly warmer. When it overheats the led flashes red green and I figure its slowing the charge or stopping it to compensate.
A computer will shutdown when the heat gets to an unmanageable level to prevent damage. I figure the phone would have something similar.
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PROS: Your phone goes faster!
It goes slower while it's asleep, so more battery (as long as you program the profile in setcpu)!
CONS:Your phone might overheat.
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It doesnt go faster while its asleep.. It scales down like any other rom/kernel would when the phone is asleep.
If you really arent sure then dont ever use an OC'ing app. Just install the kernel and let it scale on its own.
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Thanks man I appreciate the response. When you say overheat do you mean the battery, or the actual phone? haha
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Also the only thermometer thats close to the cpu is the battery. So its not the most accurate thing to watch since its not the actually cpu temps. Just a rough estimate. Also when it get to around 40 C then set the max clock down to around default clock speeds. Or simple just let the phone relax and dont touch it. You can also take the back cover off and let it get more air..
It doesnt get hot extremely easy, so its not like youll be sending a text and it gets hot. Its only after prolonged use or doing something thats keeping the cpu from not scaling down very much (game, tethering, or etc..)
PROS: Your phone goes faster!
It goes slower while it's asleep, so more battery (as long as you program the profile in setcpu)!
CONS:Your phone might overheat.
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It doesnt go faster why its asleep.. It scales down like any other rom would when the phone is asleep.
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I think he meant setcpu can scale at a lower then factory frequency. But that would actually not be overclocking =P
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I think he meant setcpu can scale at a lower then factory frequency. But that would actually not be overclocking =P
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It would actually be underclocking, yes. But it DOES give you better battery life!
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It would actually be underclocking, yes. But it DOES give you better battery life!
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I haven't noticed a difference setting my phone to 245mhz when it's asleep (well positively anyway). But when I unlock it is slow to a crawl, so I just set it 528mhz all the time and my battery life is unaffected but my phone is always very spunky.I don't have fresh toast on my phone so I haven't overclocked it yet (but may eventually)
I only had issues with overheating when charging, especially via USB to a computer. One commonly overlooked side effect is that Li-Ion batteries lose capacity faster at higher temperatures. The capacity degradation is a combination temperature, charge and number of charge cycles. The ideal situation is to be at 40% charge at 0C, but the hotter the battery, the more it degrades with time.
Only had the phone for two days so this should improve even more:
overclocking to 1.4ghz, under clocking when screen off to 0.3. 9 hours screen off, didn't lose a percent, still 100 on desire Z. EPIC!
thats good to hear ! Cant wait till i get my hands on it! damnit ! 5 or more days togo
Did you have any other functions enabled? 3G/WiFi? Sync'ing with FB or Twitter apps? Anything like that?
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Did you have any other functions enabled? 3G/WiFi? Sync'ing with FB or Twitter apps? Anything like that?
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Everything enabled daffa, Twitter every 30 mins, sky news.. no facebook though, weather every hour
Its a power conserving beast;P
JD
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Everything enabled daffa, Twitter every 30 mins, sky news.. no facebook though, weather every hour
Its a power conserving beast;P
JD
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how many hours can you get out of it when you are using it throughout the day, e.g. email, internet browsing, twitter, bit of music and phone calls? using data and wifi?. Im on my 5th day and averaging about 14 hours, hoping that the battery hasnt settled yet, otherwise my hope is for the NAND being hacked and roms for optimal performance!
Do you actually get more real-life performance out of the overclocking (snappier menus, faster app launching), or the only place where it shows is the benchmark? Is Sense faster, or is the difference not visible (0.8 vs 1.4)?
On the other hand, underclocking could be really useful to preserve battery. But doesn't the processor underclock on its own when in standby (by design), do we need to use 3rd party apps?
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Do you actually get more real-life performance out of the overclocking (snappier menus, faster app launching), or the only place where it shows is the benchmark? Is Sense faster, or is the difference not visible (0.8 vs 1.4)?
On the other hand, underclocking could be really useful to preserve battery. But doesn't the processor underclock on its own when in standby (by design), do we need to use 3rd party apps?
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contrary to what you should expect,
overclocking this SoC just hightens the clock's max roof from 800MHz to 1GHz, 1.2 or 1.4GHz, not the "permamnt" MHz count,
because it auto-fluctuates and adapt depending on usage
AND with the SetCPU app (which I assume JupiterDroid is using),
cycles per second can be optimized even more.
The phone won't go up all over the way to 1.4GHz when idle, but will maintain a very low cycles per second clocks, thus improving battery life
Here's my experience w/ battery life and overclocking the Desire Z (for today).
I only have it set to overclock to 1GHz and I have typical SetCPU profiles to underclock to 245MHz when not in use.
My phone has been off the charger since 9am (5.5 hours) and is sitting at 92% battery power. This includes permanent connection to WiFi (no sleep policy), receiving updates to email/gmail and some text conversations with Trillian and a 15 minute email (composed w/ keyboard).
Compared to my old HTC Hero (Running VR 1.5.0), this is a huge improvement, though with VR 1.5.0 I could run JuiceDefender & have similar battery life with the right profile setup.
Yup I even notice better battery life in actual use. My friends were running youtube and doing web searches like crazy on my phone last night + games for a good 5 straight hours and the battery was holding up well.
I've got to say, the battery life on the Desire Z is outstanding... 18 hours with light use and battery still @ 92%!!!
What about 1GHz core compile?
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I've got to say, the battery life on the Desire Z is outstanding... 18 hours with light use and battery still @ 92%!!!
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are you using set CPU and overclock?
Is anybody getting time without a signal percentage in the cell standby item in the battery usage? Im getting 12% sometimes more and im getting about 14 hours battery life with moderate use! I dont feel im getting the best out of the battery and worried this might be part of the issue!
Hi guys.. sorry for the novice post.. i have had my Desire Z for a day and am interested in overclocking it - but
a) are you saying it possibly INCREASES battery life?
b) is the speed diff noticeable in day to day use - or just benchmarks?
c) How do i overclock - what is SetCPU and how does it work?
I don't think my battery has settled yet .. I hope not anyway, and I just (temp) rooted and overclocked to 1Ghz last night, haven't tried higher yet because I feel like my battery is kind of just disappearing so far, none of this epic "all day and then some" stuff some people are reporting. I think it may be that fact that I've been using the device pretty sporadically so far, and it hasn't had a chance to settle.
Also "cell standby" seems to be using a lot of battery, and I'm thinking that's because I'm unfortunately in a spot where I get extremely poor to no coverage most of the day. So I'm thinking the cell radio is using a lot of juice trying to get that 1 bar I sometimes see here. There didn't seem to be a way to easily disable the cell radio without disabling wifi though, until I found this "airplane mode wifi tool" on the market which I just installed.
So now my cell radio GPS and bluetooth are all off while wifi is on, hopefully that will make a difference. I'm wondering if using 802.11n is more draining than 802.11g also I know both my router and the desire z support N but "network info II" reports I'm only connecting at 65Mbps, while my laptop connects at 150Mbps.
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Hi guys.. sorry for the novice post.. i have had my Desire Z for a day and am interested in overclocking it - but
a) are you saying it possibly INCREASES battery life?
b) is the speed diff noticeable in day to day use - or just benchmarks?
c) How do i overclock - what is SetCPU and how does it work?
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I don't think there's any way overclocking can actually increase battery life, but managing CPU speed with SetCPU seems to be more effective than the default behaviour for some reason, so the fact you're overclocking when using it but underclocking when not using it results in longer battery life. I'm pretty sure it does regulate the speed automatically without setCPU but maybe it doesn't clock the CPU down to absolute minimum by default when the screen is off?
Anyway the noob friendly guide to overclocking by JD is on the forum with an [INSTRUCTIONS] tag.. I can't link to it apparently since I'm a noob.
Edit: Added link ~TheRomMistress
Thanks guys. Main thing i'm curious about is whether i just install SetCPU or i have to "root"
Yes, SetCPU needs root access.
Still trying to figure out how the OP is underclocking to .3 using SetCPU.. Lowest I can go is 245..
Unless I'm an idiot and completely missing something.. I'd love to turn this phone way down when the screen right off. As it sits, I'm lucky to get a full day from a fully charged battery.
zappoo said:
Hi guys.. sorry for the novice post.. i have had my Desire Z for a day and am interested in overclocking it - but
a) are you saying it possibly INCREASES battery life?
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Your mileage may vary
You can check by yourself and then uninstall if you are not satisfied (or just reboot and changes will dissappear, since we don't have permanent root yet)
b) is the speed diff noticeable in day to day use - or just benchmarks?
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Again: try by yourself and please report back, we are just starting with the desire Z and every experience/oppinion is welcomed
c) How do i overclock - what is SetCPU and how does it work?
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Hi
If you look at this youtube video it looks like Samsung Galaxy S II also drains batter fast.
Or simply look at this picture and compare battery and time!
I guess they did not think about that when they made the video
This is Stupid. ... How can you conclude it like this. .. !!! Come on man ... Find something proper to post....
Actually looking at the video it seems that the SGS2 charges its own batteries!1
First the battery is at the red level and after that it is back to green level!
dude, it's a prototype, samsung will fix all the bugs before it gets out.
they could use more than one GSII....
What do you guys expect? Battery to last a full week? They made the battery 1650 mAh now.. Screen is bigger, other fancy things.. It's normal that a phone like this will eat battery. It's a half computer!
have you ever been to an expo like MWC?
devices change hands all the time and get max 30mins of charging before they are given to the next journalist...
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dude, it's a prototype, samsung will fix all the bugs before it gets out.
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can't resist...
I agree, just like they fixed the gps bugs on the galaxy s before release.
The bugs are software related, not hardware - so that gives room for xda developers to start twinkering and improving
You can't make good conclusion on just that.
But...
galga2008 said:
dude, it's a prototype, samsung will fix all the bugs before it gets out.
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I almost fell down from my chair laughing
MuayThaiFighter8 said:
What do you guys expect? Battery to last a full week? They made the battery 1650 mAh now.. Screen is bigger, other fancy things.. It's normal that a phone like this will eat battery. It's a half computer!
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Has anyone actually seen the back-cover off displaying a 1650mAh Battery.
I'm not saying the SGS2 won't have one but until I see visual proof I'm running with it being a 1500mAh, regardless to what the written spec states.
Batt consumption can´t be worse than on my HD 2. SGS2 has AMOLED screen which consumes less batt power by 25 %.
But since this is really an "ALMIGHTY" phone one will use it for everything during the day, so will batt-drain SUBJECTIVELY be big...........
What a waste of forum space......a device that is just hitting the market, you didnt even try it yourself, and already speculating about battery performance!!
BTW, which high-end Android phone which such processors, dont drain the battery ??
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What a waste of forum space......a device that is just hitting the market, you didnt even try it yourself, and already speculating about battery performance!!
BTW, which high-end Android phone which such processors, dont drain the battery ??
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Lol "With such processors" these processors are supposed to drain less battery than the single-cores.
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Lol "With such processors" these processors are supposed to drain less battery than the single-cores.
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I am talking about 1000 MHz processors and up.
Do you really thing that a dual-core 1000MHz + processor are going to consume less battery juice than a 480Mhz processor used in some symbian devices?
Can you point out a Android device that is not "draining" the battery?
Which part of "wasting forum space " you didnt understand?
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I am talking about 1000 MHz processors and up.
Do you really thing that a dual-core 1000MHz + processor are going to consume less battery juice than a 480Mhz processor used in some symbian devices?
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no but a dual core 1ghz processor will drain significantly less battery than a single 680mhz processor
betoNL said:
What a waste of forum space......
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wow what a hater.. [email protected] guy, wish the forum had a thumbs down button for people like this
betoNL said:
Do you really thing that a dual-core 1000MHz + processor are going to consume less battery juice than a 480Mhz processor used in some symbian devices?
Can you point out a Android device that is not "draining" the battery?
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Well you are comparing 2 different things. Android allows you to run apps in the background which uses battery, it has a touchscreen (most symbian phones don't have that) which is a huge drain.
It isn't even out yet.
betoNL said:
I am talking about 1000 MHz processors and up.
Do you really thing that a dual-core 1000MHz + processor are going to consume less battery juice than a 480Mhz processor used in some symbian devices?
Can you point out a Android device that is not "draining" the battery?
Which part of "wasting forum space " you didnt understand?
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.... lol.
But really though, go find something else to do with your time.
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Strange as the concept sounds, I get better battery life when I overclock my Epic. At first I thought this was a fluke, since a faster processor (in my head, anyways) HAS to equal more power consumed. Generally speaking, this is true...
But, here's how a higher processor speed actually helps you reduce overall battery life. During daily use, your phone throttles up the processor to get something done, and then goes back to a sleep state. Mine goes from 100 to 400 to 800 to 1100 (my overclocked speed) as I watch it, with my phone just doing it's thing.
The faster it can get a certain thing done (i.e., faster processor), the sooner it can go back to a resting state, which equals more rest and better battery life.
That's it. Of course, this only works for daily use - if you keep it running playing a few games the battery life will most likely be worse. Has anyone else experienced better battery life by overclocking? I'm curious to see if this phenomenon only effects me
My setup:
CM10.1 - Experimental (Jan 20)
NS4G modem, with nitest kernel and patch (Jan 25)
smartassV2 governer/NOOP I/O scheduler
Overclocked to 1100MHz
hmmm interesting thought... i have never overclocked my epic but im just wondering how are your boot times with it overclocked... my daily use on my phone requires bluetooth on all the time and while i am at work i play music and on breaks i play games so i do go through a battery every 2 to 4 hours (I keep 6 spares on hand at all time lol) if it didnt drain battery but sped up boot at battery change would be worth a try just always been scared to oc cause dont want to mess up my phone...
Wow, six batteries? How do you charge them all?
I've been overclocking computers and such ever since I found the clock switch on my old Packard Bell 486. The trick is to not go too crazy and start small. For example, I have two Epics in the house running at 1100, and everything is going smooth. Boot times seem pretty fast, but the overall battery life is better than it's ever been on both.
I tried to clock one of them up to 1200, and I had a couple force closes and a forced reboot, so I backed it down to 1100, and the problems went away. I've heard that others can run at 1200 all day and not have any issues, so it depends on your phone.
I'd like to hear what happens if you do OC yours - my usage is nothing like that!
Sounds about right to me, the cpu isn't working on the same thing for as long and hashes it out quickly so the battery isn't drained as fast.
Just my view, I'm a slightly advanced computer ****.
markmorto said:
Wow, six batteries? How do you charge them all?
I've been overclocking computers and such ever since I found the clock switch on my old Packard Bell 486. The trick is to not go too crazy and start small. For example, I have two Epics in the house running at 1100, and everything is going smooth. Boot times seem pretty fast, but the overall battery life is better than it's ever been on both.
I tried to clock one of them up to 1200, and I had a couple force closes and a forced reboot, so I backed it down to 1100, and the problems went away. I've heard that others can run at 1200 all day and not have any issues, so it depends on your phone.
I'd like to hear what happens if you do OC yours - my usage is nothing like that!
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Definitely dependent on the phone as you said, back in the samurai kernel days my epic could handle 1500 no problem...
I have 2 external charger that came with 3 spare batteries... ebay like 15 bucks or so for 3 and a charger... I may give it a whirl see how it goes... what rom you using now??? Was thinking of just the regular cm10 but I really like the center clock mod of aokp... but thanks for the advice I will let you know how it goes.
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Isn't the default lower-bound clock 200mhz on most roms? Maybe the fact that you have it going down to 100 makes a difference too?
^Pretty sure that all ROMs run 100mhz stock.
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Isn't the default lower-bound clock 200mhz on most roms? Maybe the fact that you have it going down to 100 makes a difference too?
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While the default is 200, 100 and 200 really aren't big enough a difference power wise to make a big jump in battery life...
wizzdome said:
I have 2 external charger that came with 3 spare batteries... ebay like 15 bucks or so for 3 and a charger... I may give it a whirl see how it goes... what rom you using now??? Was thinking of just the regular cm10 but I really like the center clock mod of aokp... but thanks for the advice I will let you know how it goes.
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In the past week, I just upgraded to a Galaxy Nexus, bit still have 2 Epics in the family. One is on CM 10 and tje other is on 10.1. Definitely like to hear how it turns out.
Although this thread is about overclocking, don't ever let your friend that knows how to change the clock speed use your phone. I let my friend use my phone to play a game, and when I got it back, it was really slow, laggy and hot. Because he thought it would be funny to change the max clock speed from 1 Ghz to 200Mhz.
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Although this thread is about overclocking, don't ever let your friend that knows how to change the clock speed use your phone. I let my friend use my phone to play a game, and when I got it back, it was really slow, laggy and hot. Because he thought it would be funny to change the max clock speed from 1 Ghz to 200Mhz.
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LMAO!! That's actually pretty funny
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