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Hi there,
i noticed that some apps start itself automatically and run in the background?! That is very annoying. I am observing this behaviour once or twice a day with taskiller advance. Suddenly apps like ak notepad, last.fm and locale are running even though i didnt started them. I guess this is not normal?
mfg smurf
I have noticed this as well on my Rogers Magic (32A). I think that if a process or other app (like email) needs to, it will activate a related process for it to function (touchscreen, keyboard, etc.)
When using AppKiller after having the phone do nothing for a while or just one app, I'll see a few others listed. Naturally everything ends up loading the "touchscreen" process...
I'm not sure if that means SMS will show up when typing an email because they share the keyboard (as if activating one typing app activates them all)... I've never tested that specifically.
It would be cool if it didn't need to do this, but I've become accustomed to just touching the kill all apps button
Cheers,
Chris
cstretten said:
I have noticed this as well on my Rogers Magic (32A). I think that if a process or other app (like email) needs to, it will activate a related process for it to function (touchscreen, keyboard, etc.)
When using AppKiller after having the phone do nothing for a while or just one app, I'll see a few others listed. Naturally everything ends up loading the "touchscreen" process...
I'm not sure if that means SMS will show up when typing an email because they share the keyboard (as if activating one typing app activates them all)... I've never tested that specifically.
It would be cool if it didn't need to do this, but I've become accustomed to just touching the kill all apps button
Cheers,
Chris
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that sound reasonable but why is tunewiki starting for no reason or dolphin browser? Could it be bad programming? I noticed this behaviour only with a few apps but its quite anoying. They eat up memory and slow down the phone if i am correct?!
smurf said:
that sound reasonable but why is tunewiki starting for no reason or dolphin browser? Could it be bad programming? I noticed this behaviour only with a few apps but its quite anoying. They eat up memory and slow down the phone if i am correct?!
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He has a point there, I don't think a third party app would start another third party app, unless they worked in conjunction. As for the problem, try reinstalling the apps.
Anartic said:
He has a point there, I don't think a third party app would start another third party app, unless they worked in conjunction. As for the problem, try reinstalling the apps.
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i already tried. It doesnt matter if it is a stock, cyanogen or dwang rom. Taskkiller is showing me all this selfstarting apps after reboot and then they randomly start with no reason. Most annoying is dolphin browser. Kill it and its back in a matter of seconds eating up precious ram. Tunewiki, AK Notepad stay at least closed...
I've also wondered this and I've noticed Dolphin Browser and the TorProxy app always running, and respawn when they are terminated. I am sure it's because the apps are somehow configured to run as services, so started looking at linux services in adb. In adb shell I checked 'service list' but they were not in there, I wonder if there is a generic service that is there to keep apps alive. I'm interested to know the answer if anyone can throw some more light on it!
I noticed whenever I kill all apps, then for example, switch from 3g to wifi, or 3g to 2g, etc., dolphin browser and imusic will open in the background.... which is annoying.
Why would switching to 3g, 2g, or wifi make these apps open?
curious...
porky1981 said:
I noticed whenever I kill all apps, then for example, switch from 3g to wifi, or 3g to 2g, etc., dolphin browser and imusic will open in the background.... which is annoying.
Why would switching to 3g, 2g, or wifi make these apps open?
curious...
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i tried this and after switching 3g and wifi off an on an instance of wifi static, sms/mms and handcent spawned. Even though the usual suspects didnt start most of this automagically starting programms are indeed in need of a data connection (tunewiki, dolphin browser, locale...). We could start a list of self starting programms!?
okay, i am pretty sure now that apps are starting when wifi is on, an then the phone is switched off, then wifi goes to sleep and when the phone is turned on again wifi also and apps which need wifi are starting.
Is this only bothering me? I mean it does deplete ressources/battery life, right? I am using a tasmanager which says that i have about 45mb of free memory. After resuming from sleep with all those self starting apps it is reduced to 25-30mb.
Can anybody confirm that this shouldnt happen?
btw dolphon browser seems to have been fixed. It doesnt start after waking up the phone.
EDIT: okay, i just found this little app:
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-elsdoerfer-android-autostarts-jppi.aspx
maybe this is the solution. I am going to try it.
yeah I have the same issue both on cyan and dwang. on first boot ill run task manager and have a huge list of things, sometimes i have to kill a few times. then ill notice the phone is bogged, and check task manager and have tons of things running again.
Helo my beloved community!
So, since the HD2 utilizes quite a lot of the data connection quite frequently (mostly for weather updates), it would be good to have an option to disconnet the data connection automatically. I presume that this is probably a registry hack. This feature can be found for example in TD2/TP2 Tools. I don't want to wait until HD2 Tolls (or Tweaks or something else) shows up (I hope it will quickly because its always something very welcome!), so maybe someone could answer quickly where to tamper with the registry to do that?
Thx in advance!
any update on this?
my gprs doesnt shutdown when its not being used
sharpey said:
any update on this?
my gprs doesnt shutdown when its not being used
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I've used an old tweak I found which seems to have done the trick, not really watched it closely enough to find out as not had time yet.
Go here: http://www.andrewsayshello.com/windows-mobile/auto-disconnecting-idle-data-connections-in-wm6/
Report back and see if it does work for you!
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I've used an old tweak I found which seems to have done the trick, not really watched it closely enough to find out as not had time yet.
Go here: http://www.andrewsayshello.com/windows-mobile/auto-disconnecting-idle-data-connections-in-wm6/
Report back and see if it does work for you!
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Thx a lot, I'm still waiting form my HD2 to ship, so I'll try this as soon as possible
kinnyfaifai said:
I've used an old tweak I found which seems to have done the trick, not really watched it closely enough to find out as not had time yet.
Go here: http://www.andrewsayshello.com/windows-mobile/auto-disconnecting-idle-data-connections-in-wm6/
Report back and see if it does work for you!
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thanks for the reply but ive installed the cab and restarted but it doesnt seem to do anything
I just did the mentioned reg edits but it didn't seem to work. Then installed the cab to countercheck for my mistake. Didnt change the result, didn't work...
Even though I noticed the CacheTime setting existed from the start and was set to 600 (10 minutes).
SuspendResume original value was "~GPRS!"
Data charges are not so much the issue, I'm just concerned it might drain the battery quicker if the connection remains open permanently.
Ciddy said:
I just did the mentioned reg edits but it didn't seem to work. Then installed the cab to countercheck for my mistake. Didnt change the result, didn't work...
Even though I noticed the CacheTime setting existed from the start and was set to 600 (10 minutes).
SuspendResume original value was "~GPRS!"
Data charges are not so much the issue, I'm just concerned it might drain the battery quicker if the connection remains open permanently.
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Try to do the regedits like this:
SuspendResume=GPRS_bye_if_device_off
CacheTime=5 (decimal)
VPNCacheTime=5 (decimal)
It works on my TD2, which to my knowledge has the same WM6.5 as the HD2 does. By the way, did You set the end call button long press to "terminate data connection"? If You did, then UNDO it
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Try to do the regedits like this:
SuspendResume=GPRS_bye_if_device_off
CacheTime=5 (decimal)
VPNCacheTime=5 (decimal)
It works on my TD2, which to my knowledge has the same WM6.5 as the HD2 does. By the way, did You set the end call button long press to "terminate data connection"? If You did, then UNDO it
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how do i check the endcall button?
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how do i check the endcall button?
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Right, You can't check it, as none of the HD2's hardware buttons are configurable Just ignore that question. Anyway, I think Ive figured it out to some point. It looks like the registry hack works whenever the phone connects to the web to for example browse the internet or update stocks. But it DOESN'T WORK if the phone connects to download weather updates. It looks like the Sense weather app is somehow preventing the data connection to shut down. But I think it only happens when automatic weather updates downloading is set.
hmm you do appear to be correct... now why is the weather app hanging onto the data session
Well, just tried setting both CacheTime and VPNCachetime and when checking mail I can confirm it works.
Thanks a lot! Mail checking schedule set up.
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hmm you do appear to be correct... now why is the weather app hanging onto the data session
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absolutely no idea I think someone smarter than us should try to find the answer. Ive already done a rather brief look around the registry and tried to find something that would get the weather app such privileges but with no success. Im thinking of addressing a new topic about that, so its more visible to the community
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Right, You can't check it, as none of the HD2's hardware buttons are configurable Just ignore that question. Anyway, I think Ive figured it out to some point. It looks like the registry hack works whenever the phone connects to the web to for example browse the internet or update stocks. But it DOESN'T WORK if the phone connects to download weather updates. It looks like the Sense weather app is somehow preventing the data connection to shut down. But I think it only happens when automatic weather updates downloading is set.
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Twitter app doesn't close the data connection either
This is really annoying me. My battery was draining fast and could not find out why. Now I have found out that it is because I am constantly connected to Mobile Web on O2. I have tried terminating it but it starts again. Even after unchecking auto update for weather and twitter it still turns on and never off. I have mail set to download automatically but if i turn that off too then what is the point of having this phone and feature?
I have tried the setting in HD Tweak app to turn off data after 1 minute but noy joy.
Any help? Pleaseee.
tboy2000 said:
This is really annoying me. My battery was draining fast and could not find out why. Now I have found out that it is because I am constantly connected to Mobile Web on O2. I have tried terminating it but it starts again. Even after unchecking auto update for weather and twitter it still turns on and never off. I have mail set to download automatically but if i turn that off too then what is the point of having this phone and feature?
I have tried the setting in HD Tweak app to turn off data after 1 minute but noy joy.
Any help? Pleaseee.
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Theres one more thing you should check out. The biggest connection-demander was always the NOT PROPPERLY CLOSED OPERA. If you use the opera browser, be sure to close it NOT with the X in the upper right corner, but through Opera Menu->exit function. If you close it with X, it only goes minimized and does not shut down the connection. Even if you close it, because opera is still running, after some time it will want to refresh a page and conect again. Thats why you have the imression that the phone connects by itsself. Thats not the phone, its opera
jgal said:
Try to do the regedits like this:
SuspendResume=GPRS_bye_if_device_off
CacheTime=5 (decimal)
VPNCacheTime=5 (decimal)
It works on my TD2, which to my knowledge has the same WM6.5 as the HD2 does. By the way, did You set the end call button long press to "terminate data connection"? If You did, then UNDO it
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I did the above and it works thanks!
Also as stated, weather, opera etc will keep your data connection active...so end task and it should shut down a few seconds later.
hussan882 said:
I did the above and it works thanks!
Also as stated, weather, opera etc will keep your data connection active...so end task and it should shut down a few seconds later.
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What do you mean by "end task"?...
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What do you mean by "end task"?...
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I have installed a shortcut to taskmgr in my quicklinks - so if i see something constantly running i end task...it shuts it down rather than minimising it which is what happens when you hit the little X in most cases. The taskmgr tip is in the sticky at the top of the page.
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I have installed a shortcut to taskmgr in my quicklinks - so if i see something constantly running i end task...it shuts it down rather than minimising it which is what happens when you hit the little X in most cases. The taskmgr tip is in the sticky at the top of the page.
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Yes I know what you mean but you can't kill the weather app or twitter in this fashion as they run within Sense itsself. Besides, killing processes is not the point. The point is to have an automatic data disconnection, so you dont have to do or kill anything
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Try to do the regedits like this:
SuspendResume=GPRS_bye_if_device_off
CacheTime=5 (decimal)
VPNCacheTime=5 (decimal)
It works on my TD2, which to my knowledge has the same WM6.5 as the HD2 does. By the way, did You set the end call button long press to "terminate data connection"? If You did, then UNDO it
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Hey guys,
Can any one tell me what the VPN cache time was originally set as?
I tried everything and can't get rid of it! i dont use it and dont intend to. Anyone has an idea how this can be removed as at the moment its on all the time=battery goes dead quicker.
panjote said:
I tried everything and can't get rid of it! i dont use it and dont intend to. Anyone has an idea how this can be removed as at the moment its on all the time=battery goes dead quicker.
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You can't. Need to wait for root
If you can handle it I found a Factory reset seemed to stop Moxier being active and I got almost instant results.
See the Power Use thread for more.
You can't uninstall from the phone - not sure if you can just delete the thing from the SD card though - it may cause it to fall over...
Hi all, thought I'd ask SE for help on this one.. and this was the response.. I'm going to try it and see...
Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson support centre regarding your Sony Ericsson X10 handset.
We can confirm that you can not remove any application that came preinstalled on the Sony Ericsson X10 handset. Therefore Moxier mail can not be removed. We have however included some steps which should enable Moxier from starting up when not in use.
1. Go into your menu and select settings.
2. Select Applications
3. Select manage applications
4. Select Moxier mail
5. Select clear data then select Ok
6. Then go down to Coontrols and select Force stop
This should disable the Moxier mail.
Kind Regards,
Emma Anderson
Sony Ericsson UK Customer Services
I click on Force Stop and nothing happens ...
@ SE...
I don't think anything will visibly happen.. it's more about what shouldn't happen!! ie Moxier starting up on its own!!
Ok, then SE needs an UI (or is UX) guy there to tell them about the feedback the user should receive after taking an action ...
SE support really are hopeless... I've just tried this (with startup auditor switched off.) and guess what.... moxier started up when I switched the wifi off... and so I killed it.. and it started again when I switched the wifi on.. back to startup auditor I think!
Startup Auditor won't help with that because Moxier Mail starts up when Data Connection Change event fires (ie whenever you switch from 3G to WiFi or vice versa), and that's an event SA doesn't autokill apps at.
I've alerted the developer and he's going to add it back in so long as it doesn't cause issues.
Hi guys,
New poster here but have been lurking for a while. I too have been having the same issues as others with Moxier Mail so got on to SE Support to help. My first email was greeted with the same response as one of the posters above so I responded with the following:
Me said:
Hi Emma,
Thank you for your prompt response but I regret to inform you that the method you suggested for disabling the moxier application only works for 5-10 seconds until another data connection is made or another call is received. This ridiculous piece of software is ruining what should be an amazing phone. Whoever thought it a good idea to let it run the way it does should be given a stern talking to at the very least.
If you or anyone else in your technical department have any suggestions on how to get rid of moxier to make my phone last longer than 8 hours without needing a charge, even though I haven't used it, then I would be greatly appreciative.
Kind regards
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To this they responded with:
SE Support said:
Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson support centre regarding your Sony Ericsson X10 handset.
Could you please confirm when it is exactly that Moxier is enabled on your handset?
Is it when you receive a message or any other sort of notifications?
And what exactly happens when Moxier is enabled?
Kind Regards,
Emma Anderson
Sony Ericsson UK Customer Services
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My response:
Me said:
Hi Emma,
I should have said in my last email, but I don't have moxier set up at all. I have entered no settings in to it to activate it, nor do I intend to.
It seems to start up as soon as any data connection is initiated. Be it turning on wi-fi or turning it off and going back to GSM or 3G. It will initiate on resuming from sleep mode and when a normal phone call is made. I know that I am not the only person with this problem. It is literally happening the world over according to the numerous fora dedicated to the x10 that I have found.
Kind regards,
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Replied to with:
SE Support said:
Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson support centre regarding your Sony Ericsson X10 handset.
We can advise that your details and information is being passed through to our tech team who are going to investigate the problems you are experiencing further. In order for them to investigate the matter further could you email us back with the software version on your handset and your network provider please. Find steps below which will guide you to the software version on your handset
1. Go into your menu then settings
2. Select About phone
3. Note down Baseband version
Kind Regards,
Emma Anderson
Sony Ericsson UK Customer Services
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My final response so far was with all the info that they should need:
Me said:
Hi Emma,
Thanks for that. There are other programs doing the same thing like voice dialling but Moxier is the worst. All phone info is below.
Model: x10I
Firmware version: 1.6
Baseband version: 1.0.16
Build number: R1FA016
Kernel version: 2.6.29 - rel [email protected] #2
If you need an other information please do not hesitate to ask.
Kindest regards,
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Now we shall see what the techs supposedly have to say. I will keep you informed if there is anything useful in their next email.
Apologies for the long post but I figured it might help and also might be an idea if we all get onto the SE Support on this issue.
Thanks.
Thanks DBSS - I've replied with a similar comment when I got their first hopeless response!.. No reply yet.. We should compare solutions as they arrive!
panjote said:
I tried everything and can't get rid of it! i dont use it and dont intend to. Anyone has an idea how this can be removed as at the moment its on all the time=battery goes dead quicker.
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I am having to use android task killer to periodically kill moxier. I have never done anything with it either and my battery was down to 50% within an hour or so after it had been on charge overnight. Since using task killer its been much better.
Only had X10 about 3 days and impressed with most things but very annoyed for the general consumer who would never use an exchange server but forced to not be able to uninstall moxier stuff on an other wise Flagship phone. maybe Sony can supply a firmware update which allows us to remove or disable it.
im_iceman said:
Thanks DBSS - I've replied with a similar comment when I got their first hopeless response!.. No reply yet.. We should compare solutions as they arrive!
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Most definitely im_iceman.
For what it's worth by the way I am on O2 Ireland with this phone, locked to them.
Seems we all are having these issues with the freaking Moxier. My solution is Task Panel all the way and adding moxier to the Kill section.
Cant wait to root and forget about this little thingys that are screwing up the total enjoyment of this expensive device!
Diamond777 said:
Seems we all are having these issues with the freaking Moxier. My solution is Task Panel all the way and adding moxier to the Kill section.
Cant wait to root and forget about this little thingys that are screwing up the total enjoyment of this expensive device!
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Looks like this is going to be the only way. I just called Sony Ericsson's help desk and got put through to a vegetable. He advised that there was no way to shut it off, even though i didn't activate it, Sony wouldn't come up with anything to alter it as it's part of the phone and it does that to make switching easier (after i told him i hadn't used it and never planned on using it), and there was nothing they could do.
Gotta love customer service lol
Does anyone know if it can be updated to the latest version at least? Everytime I do the update, it says I have the latest version which is not true. Thanks in advance.
Why do you need to uninstall Moxier ? Just because it is in the kernel stack does not mean it's using any resources...
I use Moxier daily and it has little effect on my battery.....
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cashaw said:
Why do you need to uninstall Moxier ? Just because it is in the kernel stack does not mean it's using any resources...
I use Moxier daily and it has little effect on my battery.....
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That's a good point.. I was wondering about it myself today.. I don't use moxier, but there seems to have been a wave of mistrust developing about the app...I've currently got Startup auditor and task manager keeping it off.. but actually not run any tests to see if it's a problem... tell you what.. right now at.. 2217.. I'll take it out of Startup auditor and task manager and see what happens.. will report back later!
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That's a good point.. I was wondering about it myself today.. I don't use moxier, but there seems to have been a wave of mistrust developing about the app...I've currently got Startup auditor and task manager keeping it off.. but actually not run any tests to see if it's a problem... tell you what.. right now at.. 2217.. I'll take it out of Startup auditor and task manager and see what happens.. will report back later!
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any success?
ooh.. do you know what.. I can't remember exactly what happened now.. but I've got startup auditor and task manager both trying to keep moxier off.. so it must have seemed like it got worse!!.. I'll run another test... see what happens.
Anyone actually use the Genius button on a regular basis ?
Anyone else find it to be a stupid useless waste of space like I do ?
Discuss/your thoughts on it.
we have a Genius Button??? i havent even touch it once! USELESS for me, would love to find a way to remove the function and put something else that is usefull.
There is a thread in the dev section IIRC on how to remap it. I've tried it a few times, but it does not seem entirely useful or time saving.
I used it in the car when running stock. At the moment I'm using cm7 and it's mapped to Google Voice Search, which is similar in capability.
HTC Glacier running CM7 #28
Never used it while I was stock. In CM I have it remaped.
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Anyone actually use the Genius button on a regular basis ?
Anyone else find it to be a stupid useless waste of space like I do ?
Discuss/your thoughts on it.
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I used it to quickly while in the car call someone over bluetooth...but since i switched roms too desire HD rom I dont have that luxury anymore =_(
I use it in CM7 for Google Search.
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I use the hands free mode all the time. Since I learned you can use it to open apps, change settings and more, I've used it a lot more, I just wish it wasn't so slow. It would be my favorite app if it was faster!
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Anyone actually use the Genius button on a regular basis ?
Anyone else find it to be a stupid useless waste of space like I do ?
Discuss/your thoughts on it.
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I use the Genius button fairly often and allthough you are entitled to your opinion, it is not a stupid useless waste of space. It is a nice app with alot of function.
msong06 said:
we have a Genius Button??? i havent even touch it once! USELESS for me, would love to find a way to remove the function and put something else that is usefull.
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There are plenty of ways to remove it and you can actually use that button to open any app you want. Interested in how? Check out the button mod thread in my signature.
Genocaust said:
There is a thread in the dev section IIRC on how to remap it. I've tried it a few times, but it does not seem entirely useful or time saving.
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There are threads in the dev section and app section here in the MT4G forum that tell you how to do it or do it for you. Remapping the button can be extremely usefull and time saving. Interested how? See the button mod thread in my sig.
nexus9988 said:
I used it to quickly while in the car call someone over bluetooth...but since i switched roms too desire HD rom I dont have that luxury anymore =_(
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You can add Genius to any Desire HD rom and most other roms by visiting my thread HERE or HERE
CyberStorm98 said:
I use the hands free mode all the time. Since I learned you can use it to open apps, change settings and more, I've used it a lot more, I just wish it wasn't so slow. It would be my favorite app if it was faster!
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If you are having a problem with it verifying your contact list often try this:
When it activates and asks you to speak push the menu button. It will pull up the Settings and from there you can turn off the contact verification by going into Phonebook Updates and selecting manual. Or make some other adjustments to help speed it up a little.
I tried it and it worked well, but it takes 20 seconds for it to startup initially, and isn't very fast even after that.
So I remapped the keys so a press gives me search and a press-hold gives me voice search instead of the Genius Button app. Now I use it and find it useful. I'm tempted to see if I can turn it into a dialer button so I can always get to the phone app, since this is a phone....
using it to activate google voice search is better for me.
excarnate said:
I tried it and it worked well, but it takes 20 seconds for it to startup initially, and isn't very fast even after that.
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Dude, what are you talking about? It dont take more than one second to open. I press the button and it opens just as fast as google voice search would. You need to go into Settings/Phonebook Updates and set it to manual. Then it wont try to update your contacts every few times you use it.
TrueBlue_Drew said:
There are threads in the dev section and app section here in the MT4G forum that tell you how to do it or do it for you. Remapping the button can be extremely usefull and time saving. Interested how? See the button mod thread in my sig.
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To clarify: I did not mean to infer the threads on how to remap the button were not helpful or time saving, but rather that I do not find the button very helpful or time saving for my own use.
I always use google voice in the car. Works great!!!!
TrueBlue_Drew said:
Dude, what are you talking about? It dont take more than one second to open. I press the button and it opens just as fast as google voice search would. You need to go into Settings/Phonebook Updates and set it to manual. Then it wont try to update your contacts every few times you use it.
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When we mentioned it taking forever to open, we weren't talking about the contact list updates. Mine has been on manual since I bought the phone. The app opens right away, but it doesn't actually start listening for commands, for at least 30 seconds, if not sometimes more. It isn't scanning or doing anything else you can turn off, it's just VERY laggy to start listening.
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When we mentioned it taking forever to open, we weren't talking about the contact list updates. Mine has been on manual since I bought the phone. The app opens right away, but it doesn't actually start listening for commands, for at least 30 seconds, if not sometimes more. It isn't scanning or doing anything else you can turn off, it's just VERY laggy to start listening.
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Hmmm...wierd, I dont have that problem at all. It starts listening as soon as I hit the button and the app opens. I even just tested it again and timed it with my stop watch.. From the time I longpress my button and it vibrates to open Genius it took 3.7 seconds for it to open and say "listening", me say "open rom manager" and it repeated it back to me and opened it. That is total time from the button press to when Rom Manager was actually open.
I am not sure what rom you guys are running or if you are rooted or not but if it is taking 5, 10, or 20 seconds for it to accept a command from you, then u got something going on. I am on CM7.
I am not here to argue with anyone over the opinion of a app. To each his own. But what I dont like to see is someone calling a app a useless waste of space, when it isn't. It is just like any other app, some people use and like it and some dont.
TrueBlue_Drew said:
Hmmm...wierd
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"weird", not "wierd".
...it took 3.7 seconds...total time
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Mine took:
20 seconds the first time, 4 seconds the second time (I found the shorter time didn't last all that long in actual use). Yes, I had it on the default setting of updating contacts automatically. I don't see why I should have to change a default and give up the functionality for it to work. Still, I changed the setting, since I don't care about it, and rebooted my phone. 2 seconds to prompt me. I tried to open "Timer" and it kept opening "Camera" but that's a different topic. Nice to know it can be reasonably fast (thank you for the tip!), but the Google voice search is faster still and lets me call all contacts, even new ones.
I am not sure what rom you guys are running or if you are rooted or not but if it is taking 5, 10, or 20 seconds for it to accept a command from you, then u got something going on. I am on CM7.
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No, *I* don't have something going on, the phone does. It did this from stock, it did this on several phones (I kept trying til I got a good screen), it does this rooted.
If the automatic update of contacts is so tough for it, it was a poorly chosen default, but it hardly constitutes my having something going on.
I am not here to argue with anyone over the opinion of a app. To each his own. But what I dont like to see is someone calling a app a useless waste of space, when it isn't. It is just like any other app, some people use and like it and some dont.
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You are getting way too worked up over this. He didn't say it is a "useless waste of space", he asked if anyone else found it to be a "useless waste of space like I do", which is quite different. Even so, it would clearly be his opinion.
I generally find the Genius Button app to be accurate, not withstanding the above, but the Google voice search does nearly as much and works out of the box. It isn't worth my time to re-edit the keys to bring the app back.
Please note, I said "my time", not "your time" or "everyone's time"
Anyone, I don't suppose there is a way to make the physical "genius" button a general 'Find' like it is on my wife's Droid X?
Google voice search seems too be more intuitive, less intrusive, and launches much faster in my opinion. I've remapped genius button to launch google voice search.
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hey excarnate,
1st...thanks for correcting my spelling
2nd...dont assume that I am worked up over something so trivial as if you or anyone else likes, wants to use or doesn't want to use a app. I could really care less and was only trying to let people know there are settings that can be adjusted to make it faster.
3rd...While I think that Google voice search works great I don't think it has all of the capabilities that Genius does but Genius has all of the ones that Voice search does. So to compare the two is a little harder than just saying that Google voice search is better because it is faster. Genius wins hands down when it comes to the amount of things it does in comparison to Google Voice search. Try telling Google voice search to "turn on wifi", "Open Settings", "turn of GPS"
4th...I am not sure what the "find" feature is on the droid phone but since you have taken the time to remap your genius button you can use the app called Button Shortcut (free in market) or Launchkey (free on xda) to open any other app with the long press of Genius/Search button.
Not sure why you decided to try and pick apart my post, but its all good.
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Heh, I have smilies adblocked so didn't notice til I hit reply. I'm just glad you didn't use "lol" as punctuation.
4th...I am not sure what the "find" feature is on the droid phone but since you have taken the time to remap your genius button you can use the app called Button Shortcut (free in market) or Launchkey (free on xda) to open any other app with the long press of Genius/Search button.
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Originally I used Button Shortcut to launch the Genius Button app, but after rooting my current phone (with a good screen!) I gave up on Genius Button. If I knew I could have turned off one of the defaults to make it perform acceptably, I would have made it the long press default. Maybe I still will, if I remap the button for any other reason.
Find, is simply find within the current app. If I'm in contacts, the find button lets you find something in contacts. If I'm in a webpage, I believe it lets one search in the webpage (I don't use her phone much so I'm not sure about this).
[mini rant about the contacts app on the MT4G deleted]
So my new take on the Genius Button is: it is worthless out-of-the-box. If your contacts are stable, disable automatic updates and only remap the long press (if desired). If your contacts aren't stable and are important, dump it for the Google search & voice search.
[New information: Even with manual updates of contacts it is very slow to start when on hands free (hands free mode or not). I plan to freeze it in Titanium Pro.]
Hello to all, I am new to this forum, so, please be kind to me!
Here is my question: I paired my new Atrix with the radio in my car to use the hands free option as I did with my previous BB. Since I installed Skype every time I call a contact, the screen of the radio freezes after pressing the green phone Icon. Recently I discovered that the phone asks (only in the phone´s screen) if I want to use "Dialer" or Skype. Once confirmed on the touchscreen, the call originated at the radio proceeds normally. I searched all alternatives but cannot find the menu to make all calls by default using "dialer". As this is quite annoying I was thinking of deleting Skype cause I actually don´t use it that much. Can anyone give me a clue?
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Hello to all, I am new to this forum, so, please be kind to me!
Here is my question: I paired my new Atrix with the radio in my car to use the hands free option as I did with my previous BB. Since I installed Skype every time I call a contact, the screen of the radio freezes after pressing the green phone Icon. Recently I discovered that the phone asks (only in the phone´s screen) if I want to use "Dialer" or Skype. Once confirmed on the touchscreen, the call originated at the radio proceeds normally. I searched all alternatives but cannot find the menu to make all calls by default using "dialer". As this is quite annoying I was thinking of deleting Skype cause I actually don´t use it that much. Can anyone give me a clue?
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go to settings>applications>manage applications>downloaded and find skype. tap it. and scroll down and press clear defaults. hope that helps
BTW Welcome to XDA its fun in here
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go to settings>applications>manage applications>downloaded and find skype. tap it. and scroll down and press clear defaults. hope that helps
BTW Welcome to XDA its fun in here
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Thanks a lot for your help.... but it did not work (no defaults were set!) I used the "force stop" option... but this did not work either. It seems there is sort of a resident command line that asks "dialer or Skype" which runs even if Skype is off :-(