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Warning Wing owners: callers can hear you while phone rings!

A word of caution to fellow T-Mobile Wing owners:
I've found out that (occasionally) when my phone is ringing, the microphone is on and the caller can hear everything! My wife mentioned that she notices this when she calls. She can hear the ringer, and can hear me talking to others BEFORE I answer the phone! This can be really bad! The last thing I need is someone calling and hearing me mutter "What the #$%^ does this $%^& want now?" Plus it gives a big feeling of lack of privacy.
I thought surely it was a fluke, so called my self via landline and found it happened about 1 out of 10 or 15 times.
My next thought was it was software - some 3rd party app or tweak had caused it, so I hard reset back to the default stock ROM and still had the same problem. I installed a few different cooked ROMs, and still had the same problem.
The next troubleshooting step is to rule out hardware. My brother and coworker also use a Wing. I tried the same test and found the same issue there, so it wasn't unique to my device.
I called T-Mobile support to see if there was anything they could do, and they gave me a few bonehead suggestions: swap sim cards, hard reset, make sure the battery is fully charged...
Since this issue occurs:
1. With a clean stock ROM
2. With different cooked ROMs
3. On multiple devices
I don't really know what can be done about this. All I can do is watch my mouth while my phone is ringing until the T-MO Diamond or whatever Android phone they release comes out...
Anyone have any ideas? All you other Wing owners may want to try this yourself, or ask someone who calls you often if they've noticed it!
Ryan

oh wow no wonder.
its happend to me before.
but only once so im good.
thanks for clarification

This happens to me quite frequently. If you quickly put the phone to your ear when you answer you can hear your ringtone still playing, but hear the person on the other line as well. I think it's more along the lines of a delay in your ringer shutting off rather than the mic turning on.
Just my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong.

Untalented said:
This happens to me quite frequently. If you quickly put the phone to your ear when you answer you can hear your ringtone still playing, but hear the person on the other line as well. I think it's more along the lines of a delay in your ringer shutting off rather than the mic turning on.
Just my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong.
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I do experience what you're describing, but this is different. If I leave the phone sitting on the counter, then somebody calls me, they can hear my ringer and anything going on around the phone even if I don't touch it.
It's like the phone mic occasionally turns itself on, and the caller hears the open mic instead of the normal dialing tone.
Ryan

funny thing is i can actually believe that t-mobile said "make sure the battery is fully charged"

kidnamedAlbert said:
funny thing is i can actually believe that t-mobile said "make sure the battery is fully charged"
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TMobile rocks da house *g*

You may be under FBI surveillance :
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1029_3-6140191.html?part=rss&tag=2547-1009_3-0-10&subj=news

Isn't there a setting that says "automatically answer phone after 3 rings"? Could that be it?

Bakkendance said:
You may be under FBI surveillance [/URL]
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lol!
Kar98 said:
Isn't there a setting that says "automatically answer phone after 3 rings"? Could that be it?
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But that's the thing... the phone isn't picked up. After about 30 seconds, it rolls over to voicemail and shows as a missed call...
Ryan

Call Connection Problems

Hey, I've been lurking these forums for a while but I thought I'd come on to ask a question. I tried asking on sprintmogul.net but they didn't really help.
I've had my mogul for a few months but lately it's been developing a really annoying problem. I'm really not sure where it started exactly so I can't blame any apps in particular. When I receive a call the caller ID / ring and vibrate go off perfectly - the problem happens when I try to answer the call. Generally one of three things happens:
1 - The call connects instantly and just works - this happens pretty rarely, I remember the last time it happened the person calling was also on Sprint, if that makes any difference.
2 - The phone will just sort of hang there for about 10 seconds, caller ID popup still there, the ring stops though. Eventually the popup disappears and I get a missed call notification, as if I never clicked the answer button. This is what usually happens.
3 - The phone hangs like in situation 2, but the call eventually connects. This only happens if I press answer almost immediately after the phone starts to ring.
I'm on winMo 6.1 with the latest radio and am not running any major mods or hacks, just a few reg edits. I'll probably try a hard reset soon but ideas on things to try would be appreciated!

I am seeing this also, on both my own xv6800 and my wife's. It's VERY annoying.

no out going calls

hey guys so i can't make out going calls on my htc vogue touch Verizon
i can send text, and reserve text, incoming call and and even get voice mail notification, but no out going calls, it just started today and i spent hours on the phone with Verizon tech support
they had me use ##778 to go in and reset a few things but steel no go
if anyone has had a problem please help
thank you

Which rom and radio are you using? Also, when you say that you cannot make calls. Does the phone not connect when you hit the green button? Or does it come back telling you a network error message "MPL 01... your call cannot be completed as dialed" or something like this?

egzthunder1 said:
Which rom and radio are you using? Also, when you say that you cannot make calls. Does the phone not connect when you hit the green button? Or does it come back telling you a network error message "MPL 01... your call cannot be completed as dialed" or something like this?
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I'm using Rom NFSFan 1.15 and Radio 3.37.77
when i make a call the phone will say connected, and then the min counter will start after 30sec-1min the phone will drop the call with no error message or anything

Have you tried using a different rom? While I doubt it, it could be rom related. Do you at least hear the ringing when you dial out (before getting the dropped call)?

egzthunder1 said:
Have you tried using a different rom? While I doubt it, it could be rom related. Do you at least hear the ringing when you dial out (before getting the dropped call)?
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no ringing no sound at all just dead air and then dropped call i don't think its the rom because it has the same problem if i boot into Android also

evilclosetmonkeynate said:
no ringing no sound at all just dead air and then dropped call i don't think its the rom because it has the same problem if i boot into Android also
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There has to be something wrong in your EPST settings. Your carrier has to give you all your NAM settings or else you will never make it work properly.

[Q] End Call Disconnects Both calls when in call waiting

When you are on a call and receive a second call.... I can answer the 2nd call and swap between the 2
However, when you press END CALL on the active call.. it disconnects BOTH calls. That NEVER happened on my S4.
Is this a software glitch? Anyone else have this issue?

rushfanx1 said:
When you are on a call and receive a second call.... I can answer the 2nd call and swap between the 2
However, when you press END CALL on the active call.. it disconnects BOTH calls. That NEVER happened on my S4.
Is this a software glitch? Anyone else have this issue?
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I think mine has always done this on every android phone I have ever owned..
Others might has something different to say..
SOrry..
Bleeds

bleeds said:
I think mine has always done this on every android phone I have ever owned..
Others might has something different to say..
SOrry..
Bleeds
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My Galaxy S4 handled it correctly. It disconnects only the active call
I actually tested it out yesterday on a friends S4

I just found this on Verizons website
o Initiate Call Waiting:
When you're on the line and a second call comes in, you'll hear a tone to let you know you have another call. When that happens, you have three choices:
Put the first call on hold by pressing SEND. You'll automatically be connected with the second call. To return to the first call: Press SEND again. To switch between the two calls: Press SEND.
Or, end the first call by asking the first caller to hang up. This automatically connects you to your waiting call.
Really.. I have to ask the other person to hang up? That so F'n Stupid... I know this worked on my S4..

That's how the note 3 works and how the s3 worked. You hit swap when you are done. Not intuitive. I've accidentally hung up on many a caller.
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tpike said:
That's how the note 3 works and how the s3 worked. You hit swap when you are done. Not intuitive. I've accidentally hung up on many a caller.
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Seems thats the way it works... I definitely know that on the S4, it correctly hung up only the active call...
Oh well... Phone is still great. I live with it.

Calls going silent

I have been experiencing this problem with making some phone calls where it connects to the line I am calling, but it goes silent. They can hear me, but I can't hear them. I have found that it usually depends on who you are calling. I just did a test with a friend's cell phone and a land line. I called the land line 10 times in a row and there is never a problem. But when calling my friend's cell phone, it is random. Would go silent the first time, then be ok the next 2 times, then silent again, and so forth. Also, my friend's cell phone is set so that it only rings one time, and then the voice mail picks up. I know this from looking at the top right of the phone screen where it says "Dialing", and when the call connects, you will see a time counter. When the time counter is running, it is still silent.
I wiped the phone app cache and system caches, but the problem still occurs.
Any ideas why this is happening?

legaldeejay said:
I have been experiencing this problem with making some phone calls where it connects to the line I am calling, but it goes silent. They can hear me, but I can't hear them. I have found that it usually depends on who you are calling. I just did a test with a friend's cell phone and a land line. I called the land line 10 times in a row and there is never a problem. But when calling my friend's cell phone, it is random. Would go silent the first time, then be ok the next 2 times, then silent again, and so forth. Also, my friend's cell phone is set so that it only rings one time, and then the voice mail picks up. I know this from looking at the top right of the phone screen where it says "Dialing", and when the call connects, you will see a time counter. When the time counter is running, it is still silent.
I wiped the phone app cache and system caches, but the problem still occurs.
Any ideas why this is happening?
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Using bluetooth by chance?

dottat said:
Using bluetooth by chance?
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Nope

legaldeejay said:
I have been experiencing this problem with making some phone calls where it connects to the line I am calling, but it goes silent. They can hear me, but I can't hear them. I have found that it usually depends on who you are calling. I just did a test with a friend's cell phone and a land line. I called the land line 10 times in a row and there is never a problem. But when calling my friend's cell phone, it is random. Would go silent the first time, then be ok the next 2 times, then silent again, and so forth. Also, my friend's cell phone is set so that it only rings one time, and then the voice mail picks up. I know this from looking at the top right of the phone screen where it says "Dialing", and when the call connects, you will see a time counter. When the time counter is running, it is still silent.
I wiped the phone app cache and system caches, but the problem still occurs.
Any ideas why this is happening?
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Similar issue here....I use the Ice View case....do you? I go in and out of silence with people all the time.

No, but I'm not sure how the case would have anything to do with it

legaldeejay said:
No, but I'm not sure how the case would have anything to do with it
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well considering I get weird behavior from the case all the time (25% of the time wont show music controls on double tap when music is playing, occasionally doesn't pick up or hang up on swipe)....I think its quite possible it could affect call quality/mic volume if it can exhibit these odd/wrong behaviors as much as it does.