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tempted to get an iphone..

Build quality is superb,video is amazing, I feel like my evo will disintegrate within 6months.. I never had ATT but i'm sure I will hate them but I'm not much of a talker or texter.. I just like to browse the net on my phone, upload some videos on facebook/youtube,listen to my music and play a few games..
i feel my evo is consuming my life with all these new roms and such, I have very little self control, instead of focusing on school work im obsessing over the next new hack for my 002 novatec, or when I can upgrade to an 003,.. I think I need to dumb it down and get an iphone lol

Disintegrate?
Does the Evo really feel that cheap in your hands?
And, for goodness sake, glass on the BACK of the phone? Yikes.

Go get the iPhone then, no one is going to stop you but yourself. To me it sounds more like your into the most popular phone atm then anything else.
Sent from HTC Evo 4g

I really don't get a cheap feel with the Evo ... design / material / quality wise.
Just because the iPhone has glass (OMGhana) all these people seem to think that it's all high end. Maybe I don't want glass. Maybe I have too much glass in my life. Christ. I digress. It's all a matter of what best suits the user.

beesneazy said:
Hit submit a few minutes after typing that ... I see you edited the post. Guess I thought you meant build quality ... and maybe you did ... but I really don't get a cheap feel with the Evo ... design / material / quality wise.
Just because the iPhone has glass (OMGhana) all these people seem to think that it's all high end. Maybe I don't want glass. Maybe I have too much glass in my life. Christ.
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The EVO's front is amazing. But I have to say, the back could have been improved upon, no offense. I'm an HD2 owner, and I'm sure you can understand why I say what I say.

beesneazy said:
Hit submit a few minutes after typing that ... I see you edited the post. Guess I thought you meant build quality ... and maybe you did ... but I really don't get a cheap feel with the Evo ... design / material / quality wise.
Just because the iPhone has glass (OMGhana) all these people seem to think that it's all high end. Maybe I don't want glass. Maybe I have too much glass in my life. Christ.
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well its the screen separation (screen is sinking! barely push against it and it sinks in itself, affects accurate touch operations) and the flimsy backcover that makes a squeeky noise now when I hold it, the kickstand as well is making a noise, wheres the WD-40! sorry I didn't clarify this.

Yeah I can agree on that, not a big fan of the camera sticking out. Nothing a case can't fix though.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4g

Tundricles said:
Build quality is superb,video is amazing, I feel like my evo will disintegrate within 6months.. I never had ATT but i'm sure I will hate them but I'm not much of a talker or texter.. I just like to browse the net on my phone, upload some videos on facebook/youtube,listen to my music and play a few games..
i feel my evo is consuming my life with all these new roms and such, I have very little self control, instead of focusing on school work im obsessing over the next new hack for my 002 novatec, or when I can upgrade to an 003,.. I think I need to dumb it down and get an iphone lol
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The monthly bill will be a lot more then what you pay now (unless you can get a good discount). Don't forget that AT&T got rid of their Unlimited plan so....I hope you can keep it under 2 gigabytes or you will have to pay a fee.
Either way...your best bet is to do your own evaluation with them and their network. To each his own, but I wouldn't go back!

Truth be told there are things about the Evo that I don't necessarily "love." The shape of the back case, which I know is what it is for a reason.
In terms of the iPhone ... I'll admit to liking the newer design in terms of it being more "Squared" and flatter. Didn't like the rounder previous iPhone's, which is something I sort of see with the Evo but since it's a bit "thicker" it works. But it's still a sharp looking device, for whatever that's worth. Not to suggest the Evo isn't.
Held the iPhone 4, and yes, it does have that "feel and look" but it didn't necessarily sit in my hands, landscape mode (as that's how I'm usually holding the phone), as comfortably as my Evo did. I like the little bit of heft and size you get with the EVO, in the end it just felt more comfortable.
The new iPhone does look cooler than last generations ... but it's still a got damn iPhone.

redrazr7791 said:
The monthly bill will be a lot more then what you pay now (unless you can get a good discount). Don't forget that AT&T got rid of their Unlimited plan so....I hope you can keep it under 2 gigabytes or you will have to pay a fee.
Either way...your best bet is to do your own evaluation with them and their network. To each his own, but I wouldn't go back!
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Had the evo for nearly a month now (june 4th) I agree overall sprint is the better network
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beesneazy said:
Truth be told there are things about the phone that I don't necessarily "love." The shape of the case, which I know is what it is for a reason.
In terms of the iPhone ... I like the newer design in terms of it being more "Squared" and flatter. Didn't like the rounder previous versions, which is something I sort of see with the Evo. But it's still a sharp looking device.
Held the iPhone 4, and yes, it does have that "feel and look" but it didn't necessarily sit in my hands, landscape mode (as that's how I'm usually holding the phone), as comfortably as my Evo did. I like the little bit of heft and size. It just feels more comfortable.
The new iPhone does look cooler ... but it's still a got damn iPhone.
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My neighbor let me play with her iPhone for a little bit and imo, I hated the feel of it in my hand. I was more of a fan of the rounded back. The phone was fast but nothing that made me feel amazed. Overall I didn't feel like it was a worthy upgrade over the 3gs, but again I'm not a big Apple fan. For those that like/love the iPhone/Apple I'm sure you like it though.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4g

The things that keep me from getting an iphone again are:
No flash, I love watching flash on fail blog or assorted sites
No .wmv player. One off my favorite sites puts up their videos in that format
No widgets. Going in and out if programs for basic info gets old.
Small screen. After the evo I don't think I can go under 4 inches.
Email attachments are handled fairly ****ty on the iphone especially if the device doesn't recognize them. I can download anything through the gmail.com site.
Notifications suck on the iphone. Not a total deal breaker for me but still on the list.
No swype.

I don't get it with people. It's like they have to come in and justify why they buy or not buy a phone. Do you do the same with your car, home, clothes?
Do you tell your friends I am buying a Honda now that my Ford's build quality isn't what I like. No offense to Ford owners
The Iphone's build quality is not all that - i think you have read some of the reviews. It's slick I will give them that. But once you put a case on it how does it feel now?
There are already signs of them getting scratched up. Once you put a thicker case on it guess what? It's not a sleek and small as you once thought it was. No different from the EVO. I put on my case and I see all screen.
You put on the bumpers to the Iphone 4 and you see all screen.
I don't care what phone anyone gets. I don't get into the fanboy fight either way. I like what I like and I buy it. Android happens to be my OS of choice and the EVO my phone. Windows Phone 7 will be my next phone as well. If the Iphone came in a 4" or larger screen I would have considered it. BUT...this forum and these developers and people are the real reason so many of us are into these phones the way we are.
I am sure the HD3 will be pretty slick. I can almost guarantee you that if the design concepts comes close to the real deal that it will be amazing.

Just so you guys know Ive read quite a few posts complaining about light leaking on the iphone 4 aswell. If thats what causes your gripes on building quality you may be disappointed with the iphone as well.
On top of that the iphone shatters when dropped from little over a foot. My evo has already survived a nastier one from waste height.

Tundricles said:
well its the screen separation (screen is sinking! barely push against it and it sinks in itself, affects accurate touch operations) and the flimsy backcover that makes a squeeky noise now when I hold it, the kickstand as well is making a noise, wheres the WD-40! sorry I didn't clarify this.
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I have minor screen separation that I only noticed when I saw a mention of it while floating around. Yes, I admit the screen is coming up on mine. Lower left, gives a little bit of light leakage. But no one would notice it unless I pointed it out to them. Or they're already aware of the issue and they looked to see ... I don't really see the sinking thing. I feel like the screen seems pretty solid actually. Does this have anything to do with the folks talking about different displays or whatever? I dunno ... cause I definitely don't feel like my screen "sinks" when I man handle it.
I don't get a squeaky noise ... is this a sweaty hands to surface squeak?
My kick stand doesn't make a noise ... but it does get warm when I'm maxing my phone out .... as far as a noise I cannot honestly say I've heard this.

Remember to hold the iPhone 4 correctly.
With your fingertips.

I blame my ISP.
Sorry for the double post.

Tundricles said:
well its the screen separation (screen is sinking! barely push against it and it sinks in itself, affects accurate touch operations) and the flimsy backcover that makes a squeeky noise now when I hold it, the kickstand as well is making a noise, wheres the WD-40! sorry I didn't clarify this.
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Why don't you exchange it?

Tundricles said:
Build quality is superb
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You're kidding, right?

Beejis said:
My neighbor let me play with her iPhone for a little bit and imo, I hated the feel of it in my hand. I was more of a fan of the rounded back. The phone was fast but nothing that made me feel amazed. Overall I didn't feel like it was a worthy upgrade over the 3gs, but again I'm not a big Apple fan. For those that like/love the iPhone/Apple I'm sure you like it though.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4g
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I totally get what you are saying. I almost felt that holding the phone vertically felt alright ... but sitting horizontally I wasn't entirely feeling it.
Although I should admit that there are some other phones out there that are entirely MORE uncomfortable. It's a matter of preference, I know, and even with that a lot of folks throw cases and what not on. I do not, so that's something I would be forced to get used to. Not cool.
Especially if forced to rock a bumper ... I would cry.
Well ... here ya go - no squeaky kickstand issues;
And to think everyone was laughing at the kickstands .... it just makes sense.
Who laughs now!!1! Who laughs now!

I'm sort of tired of the design complaints...

... More so because all these big tech blog sites always opine on something as personally preferential as the build quality and design and almost pass it off as a "fact" and then you see other sheeps complaining about the same issues most of the time, based off what they read; simply because most people aren't capable of thinking for themself, and like typical consumers, they just get fed what others tell them.
I, for one, have liked the designs and the build qualities of the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy S III over that of the bland and dull looking iPhone and HTC One X. That's just my personal opinion, but what I don't understand is the constant complaints about the build quality.
iPhone has always been praised for its "premium feel" - but really, what are you getting in actuality? The Cheap glass+steel composition that is a shatter magnet? The plastic body on the Galaxy S series is not only in my opinion, superior, in terms of aesthetics, but it's also so much more durable and managable without any sort of expensive casing to protect these more sensitive "premium" builds.
I even see some of the cons of the Galaxy S lines by some people or tech sites being something as subjective in actuality, as design and build quality. It's just downright annoying and I think people should find more legitimate gripes.

megagodx said:
... More so because all these big tech blog sites always opine on something as personally preferential as the build quality and design and almost pass it off as a "fact" and then you see other sheeps complaining about the same issues most of the time, based off what they read; simply because most people aren't capable of thinking for themself, and like typical consumers, they just get fed what others tell them.
I, for one, have liked the designs and the build qualities of the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy S III over that of the bland and dull looking iPhone and HTC One X. That's just my personal opinion, but what I don't understand is the constant complaints about the build quality.
iPhone has always been praised for its "premium feel" - but really, what are you getting in actuality? The Cheap glass+steel composition that is a shatter magnet? The plastic body on the Galaxy S series is not only in my opinion, superior, in terms of aesthetics, but it's also so much more durable and managable without any sort of expensive casing to protect these more sensitive "premium" builds.
I even see some of the cons of the Galaxy S lines by some people or tech sites being something as subjective in actuality, as design and build quality. It's just downright annoying and I think people should find more legitimate gripes.
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Op you're wrong. It's not cause the tech sites have said that they don't like the design that everyone else doesn't, its cause they expected something newer, more original. I like the design of the S3 and already preordered mine, but I would be lying if I say that I didn't expect the design to be more slick like the HOX. Still I'm liking it more everyday but as the most anticipated android device EVER, people were expectating something more original and a phone's looks matters a lot. The HOX has so many issues, horrible battery life, screen flickering, sense crashing and reloading... And yet I still wanna buy that phone just because it is a thing of beauty. I saw it for the first time yesterday and I personally think it is the most beautiful phone ever made HANDS DOWN. If only the S3 had a better looking body, all the people saying that the S3 is a disappointment wouldnt complain as much. But again I like the s3 design more and more but as the flagship Samsung phone you can't knock people for expecting something better looking.

IMO, HOX looks way better, albeit a bit skate-board'ish (took a while to find the right word) but I aint buying phones for the looks (like my bro who regrets it with sensation).
Build quality and design are 2 different things btw, and HTC's build quality is derp.. they use fancy materials but there are nuff examples of bad-glued screens, light leaks, yellow spots or w/e with 1x and chipping with 1s and it's uber fancy hyped satellite NASA aluminum.

Yeah, well say that to my gs2 owning friend whose phone *creaked* after two weeks of usage.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

abhijit1289 said:
Yeah, well say that to my gs2 owning friend whose phone *creaked* after two weeks of usage.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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What about my friend who broke her HTC Incredible's screen 2 times already? See I can do that too. It goes both ways.

barondebxl said:
Op you're wrong. It's not cause the tech sites have said that they don't like the design that everyone else doesn't, its cause they expected something newer, more original. I like the design of the S3 and already preordered mine, but I would be lying if I say that I didn't expect the design to be more slick like the HOX. Still I'm liking it more everyday but as the most anticipated android device EVER, people were expectating something more original and a phone's looks matters a lot. The HOX has so many issues, horrible battery life, screen flickering, sense crashing and reloading... And yet I still wanna buy that phone just because it is a thing of beauty. I saw it for the first time yesterday and I personally think it is the most beautiful phone ever made HANDS DOWN. If only the S3 had a better looking body, all the people saying that the S3 is a disappointment wouldnt complain as much. But again I like the s3 design more and more but as the flagship Samsung phone you can't knock people for expecting something better looking.
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I am not wrong, I'm merely stating my opinion and I made that clear numerous times. You're trying to overshadow my point as invalid to yours or a few others who mirror your sentiment based on some sort of construct that what you feel personally goes. That's sort of the indulgent mind frame we have nowadays.
I could go as far as to say that I'm right and you're wrong based on the same logical thought process you're using.
abhijit1289 said:
Yeah, well say that to my gs2 owning friend whose phone *creaked* after two weeks of usage.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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No phone is indestructible. But you put it up to comparison to the iPhone per se, I'm sure it would have incurred damage far greater and in less the time; it sounds as if your friend is a bit reckless with his gadgets. I've dropped my Galaxy S II various times without a case and at worst, I got a few negligible nicks on the side of the phone, but the screen has never gotten any gashes or cracks.

megagodx said:
I am not wrong, I'm merely stating my opinion and I made that clear numerous times. You're trying to overshadow my point as invalid to yours or a few others who mirror your sentiment based on some sort of construct that what you feel personally goes. That's sort of the indulgent mind frame we have nowadays.
I could go as far as to say that I'm right and you're wrong based on the same logical thought process you're using.
No phone is indestructible. But you put it up to comparison to the iPhone per se, I'm sure it would have incurred damage far greater and in less the time; it sounds as if your friend is a bit reckless with his gadgets. I've dropped my Galaxy S II various times without a case and at worst, I got a few negligible nicks on the side of the phone, but the screen has never gotten any gashes or cracks.
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You're too angry, take a chill pill. This is what you said ...
"More so because all these big tech blog sites always opine on something as personally preferential as the build quality and design and almost pass it off as a "fact" and then you see other sheeps complaining about the same issues most of the time, based off what they read; simply because most people aren't capable of thinking for themself, and like typical consumers, they just get fed what others tell them...".
what makes you think that everyone else is sheep and it isn't their opinion? Just because most people have the same feeling means their sheeps? And you think you're right about it? If you go to the Galaxy s2 I9100, many users are not satisfied with the new look of the S3 and you would think they should be satisfied since their coming from the Galaxy S2. It proves that theyre not just following what engadget or androidcentral or whatever tech site is saying, they really think it is a disappointment. I see where they coming from. But personally I'm liking it that's why I preordered it and already paid for it. You being mad and saying that everyone is a sheep and following what the tech sites are saying is just silly.

I actually agree somewhat with the OP in that tech blogs do sway peoples opinions even if it's a little. Along with the massive amounts of Hype unseen in any mobile device it's a surprise it's not shot down even more lol.
I personally think it's a freakin beautiful phone. Which is good cause thats all that matters to me.
I really hope this thing does not come with the S4 on T-Mo

The Verge is right. Samsung has the resources to make the most unique and exclusive design ever but the SIII is very generic looking. It's not ugly but it is generic. I would not mind carrying it around but they could have done a lot better.

Gnarfsan said:
The Verge is right. Samsung has the resources to make the most unique and exclusive design ever but the SIII is very generic looking. It's not ugly but it is generic. I would not mind carrying it around but they could have done a lot better.
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I couldn't agree more, you're absolutely right. It is like Samsung made a " safe" bet on the design. They definitely could have done better.

I would love to know what this "unique" phone looks like. Most encompass the very typical form. What you consider generic, others consider to be justright. Some time too much deviating isn't always a good thing.
Again, it goes back to my point, if legitimate users want to have a bone to pick with the form, that's their own personal experiences, legitimized by the fancy of that particular user. We're all abstract with our preferences. To have some blog site slamming a particular device based on perception materialistic reason is still a bad way to present a phone to readers.

megagodx said:
I would love to know what this "unique" phone looks like. Most encompass the very typical form. What you consider generic, others consider to be justright. Some time too much deviating isn't always a good thing.
Again, it goes back to my point, if legitimate users want to have a bone to pick with the form, that's their own personal experiences, legitimized by the fancy of that particular user. We're all abstract with our preferences. To have some blog site slamming a particular device based on perception materialistic reason is still a bad way to present a phone to readers.
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Just look at the thousands of concept renders for phones released each year by artists. With a little imagination and creativity, anything is possible.

megagodx said:
I would love to know what this "unique" phone looks like. Most encompass the very typical form. What you consider generic, others consider to be justright. Some time too much deviating isn't always a good thing.
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If you see an HTC phone for the first time, even from a distance, you immediately know who made it because they all have some distinct design features. With this phone, I can't think of anything that makes it stand out from the crowd and screams Samsung. You have to check the brand on it to know. It lacks distinct design features which I my self and a lot of reviewers find disappointing. But you may not. Thats how it works.

For me it couldnt look any better basically It's like a big iphone 3gs, no rectangulars, no nasty edges. Its sexy and i'm pretty sure it will lie good in the hand.
And i think high quality plastic is a good choice. It doesnt block signals like most forms of metal, its lightweight, it can be easily colored, it doesnt brake as easily as other materials. Only negative people always bring up is "it feels cheap".
Of course it does matter how something feels to you, but i'd rather have a cheap feeling than signal problems because of full aluminum backs^^

I fully agree with the thread title, since I don't care much about the design although I like the looks of the S3.
The thing that really pisses me off is, that there isn't just one or two threads discussing the design. No, in allmost every thread be it about the display, the cpu, connectivity, sound,... if the people run ot of arguments why their beloved phone <insert name here> is so much better than the S3, they fall back to "but it's so ugly"

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Just look at the thousands of concept renders for phones released each year by artists. With a little imagination and creativity, anything is possible.
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yeah, because the artists actually first off "know ****" about what is actually manufacturable (think of the teardrop shaped iPhone renders) and secondly do the artist never bother to think if that design is actually copyrighted or patented by another company.
as the androidpolice article stated: the design of the galaxy s3 may be only the way it is, because someone allowed apple to actually patent a touchscreen phone design which was already in place before apple first used it and would be a sensible choice to built on on.
to quote the infringement claims by apple:
a rectangular product shape with all four corners uniformly rounded
the front surface of the product dominated by a screen surface with black borders;
as to the iPhone and iPod touch products, substantial black borders above and below the screen having roughly equal width and narrower black borders on either side of the screen having roughly equal width
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so you see that not using these attributes in a phone does very much restrict the available designs.
it is not samsungs fault that they wanna play fair now.
it is the fault of the patent institution that apple was able to patent such things in the first place.
others like HTC have more freedom in their design choice because apple does not feel threatened by them. You can bet that apple would have sued HTC to their last dollar, if HTC actually would be threat to apple, but since they are not apple just does not care for the moment.
i personaly like the design of the galaxy s3 and am just withholding because i wanna see some more thorouh reviews of it.

v1rtu4l said:
"to quote the infringement claims by apple:
so you see that not using these attributes in a phone does very much restrict the available designs.
it is not samsungs fault that they wanna play fair now.
it is the fault of the patent institution that apple was able to patent such things in the first place.
others like HTC have more freedom in their design choice because apple does not feel threatened by them. You can bet that apple would have sued HTC to their last dollar, if HTC actually would be threat to apple, but since they are not apple just does not care for the moment.
i personaly like the design of the galaxy s3 and am just withholding because i wanna see some more thorouh reviews of it."
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At last, someone with a good sense !
+100
Best regards

Apple advised Samsung to build ugly phones
On 6.12.2011 a german tech. news site posted the following article
http://www.chip.de/news/Apple-raet-Samsung-Baut-haessliche-Handys-Tablets_53208546.html
(use google translate...)
The headline reads "Apple advises Samsung to build ugly Phones"
It basicly says, that apple send Samsung a letter on how they should design their future phones to avoid being sued over.
When I first read it back then, I thought "WTF!!!".
So it isn't "the S3 was designed by lawyers", but rather "Apple designed the S3"

yeah, the funniest thing is following trademarked feature:
- display coloured icons on the display, when device is on
this is ridiculous!

I will say that the official launch didnt really do the S3 justice for its design. I poked through a gallery yesterday of it and it really is a damn good looking phone. I'm not too concerned with the "feel" of it as I usually throw a slim case on my phones anyway. People said the GS2 felt cheap compared to the HTC Vivid and I didn't feel that. I felt the GS2 was lighter but that doesn't directly relate to a cheap feeling for me. I will most likely be getting the GS3 as my next phone because I've had it with HTC/AT&T locking bootloaders. I feel the AT&T One X is destined for the same failures the Vivid saw for having the bootloaders locked for so long after its release.
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Samsung Talks About Galaxy S III Design

Galaxy S III, Let’s Talk Design
June 1, 2012 | 4 Comments | Tomorrow Works
The phone we’ve all been waiting for has officially been announced in London. The Samsung Galaxy S III is being said to be one of the biggest launches of the year.
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One of the most notable differences between the Galaxy S III and other Galaxy products is the design. The nature-inspired minimal organic design identity is reflected in the smooth and non-linear lines of the device. To learn more about the design of the Galaxy S III, we had a sit-down with Vice President Minhyouk Lee (Product Design Team).
Simple and intuitive, anything not must go.
The words tell the meaning itself. ‘Minimal organic’, of course, refers to a simplified design. VP Minhyouk Lee explains that “A minimalistic design means that you remove all complexities so that only the essence remains. Bold statements like this shines more in the complicated world we’re living in”. The Galaxy S III provides an ergonomic and comfortable experience, and everything was designed with ‘people’ in mind. Its comfortable grip, gentle curves, and organic form deliver a rich human-centric feel. Inspired by nature, its design concept is the flow and movement of nature. “Most elements in nature come from curves. Instead of straight artificial lines, we focused on the elegant curves” he says. Elements of wind, water and light are all evoked in the physical construction of the Galaxy S III and you can discover different curves from each angle you approach the device.
Realizing ideas and setting the trend
Samsung always tries to set the trend and create innovations. The design for the Galaxy S III also has it all. “Even companies with 100- 200-year long histories strive to innovate. It is because they are able to read and capture the trends and present their customers with new things that they are continuously successful.” The same philosophy was applied in designing the Galaxy S III.
Though Samsung is already regarded as one of the top manufacturers with cutting edge technology, we went one step further. It wasn’t easy to put all the different design elements mentioned above into mass-production. New coating and molding techniques were applied to the Galaxy S III which, to be honest, made it a bit more difficult to manufacture. A lot of effort was put in to ensure quality, which is why we’re quite pretty confident. You’ll also find the slick classy ‘HyperGlaze’ intriguing.
HyperGlaze is the name of Polycarbonate we used on the back cover of Galaxy S III. Polycarbonate is lightweight, solid and is already being widely used in the mobile industry. It was chosen as the best material to represent the minimal organic design of Galaxy S III.
Using three layers of high quality, pure and clear polycarbonate, not only is the phone’s aesthetic elevated, but the durability and scratch resistance is maximized.
Accessories too?!
Another striking thing about the Galaxy S III is the accessories. There are quite a few designed exclusively for the Galaxy S III. If you want to fancy-up your phone, there's a range of covers, docks and chargers, as well as a C-Pen stylus. These accessories were designed in line with the product design concept.
“At first I didn’t like the idea of covering our beautiful product with a case” said Jacob. “However, many users do use a variety cases and we had to think ‘why’. Therefore, we decided to design accessories, including covers, so that it would blend with the design concept. You can now express your style with a variety of accessories”.
The design is the technology and vice versa. They’re not separate anymore
“Taking part in this project, I wanted to make the Galaxy S III the most wanted, most desirable and most popular smartphone ever”.
VP Minhyouk Lee proudly said, "Trying totally new designs and materials, we went through a great number of prototypes. Molding and Coating techniques also had to be developed. We did our best not only to provide the most creative and innovative product, but also to match the expectations consumers hold. Everything from their lifestyles to simple habits was taken into account. Not only aesthetic but also technological design was a great factor”.
To the designer of the product, the Galaxy S II is…
“Many groups within the company worked together to make it happen. And as the Galaxy S III bears the Samsung logo, we tried very hard to preserve the high standards of the ‘Samsung’ brand. I hope this reaches the hearts of our customers and makes them happy.”
http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=15035

I think they did a tremendous work on the ergonomics of the phone. It feels and looks superb in the hand, and I actually prefer the feel over the HOX for example. The thing is is that it's completely unphotogenic and pictures just don't do it justice.

I studied industrial design and the one thing you learn is concepts look great, then the engineers start making restrictions and the design changes.
The phone was limited by production and manufacturing technology not by vision of the designer. Simply put it, this is the best they could do with the current constraints for now.
Technology keeps progressing along with manufacturing processes.
Its a lovely device, and is pushing boundaries .
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You're having a laugh, design looks and feels better in the hand, Its the complete opposite especially when you compare it to hox.
Samsung are really marketing this good on them but they screwed up with three plastic design. Designed by scrooge for maximum profit."

I have to admit, I was very nervous about receiving this phone from just seeing pictures. I decided as I was going to get a white s3 I would go and have a hands on with a white hox. I did not like it, not slanting the phone in anyway the hoax to me was ugly. Fantastic to play with, and never actually using sense before I liked that part, just not the phone itself.
Then my s3 arrived, and nervously unboxing it, I absolutely fell in love with it, I was over the moon!! The pictures do NOT do this phone any justice at all, and you do need to have this in your hands to understand the quality and the beauty that this phone is
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Played with the HOX and S3 instore yesterday and definitely prefer the S3. Its like it melts into your hand. It just fits perfectly.
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I have to admit, I was very nervous about receiving this phone from just seeing pictures. I decided as I was going to get a white s3 I would go and have a hands on with a white hox. I did not like it, not slanting the phone in anyway the hoax to me was ugly. Fantastic to play with, and never actually using sense before I liked that part, just not the phone itself.
Then my s3 arrived, and nervously unboxing it, I absolutely fell in love with it, I was over the moon!! The pictures do NOT do this phone any justice at all, and you do need to have this in your hands to understand the quality and the beauty that this phone is
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+1. Having come from using a SGS1, I was worried about the larger size and wasn't a huge fan of the styling (from the photos I saw on the internet). After getting my white SGS3 yesterday, I'm in love with the size, and it's absolutely comfortable to hold. Pictures don't do the device justice at all.

I really like the feeling when it's in my hand.
So comfortable to hold and use with one hand.
My hand is just an average size for Asian but it's possible to use it by one hand just like the iphone 4s.
I feel the design of s3 is also top notch.
Looks so premium and much better than in the photo. Personally I more like the design of s3 than the one x and the iphone 4s.(I own both)
Believe me you'll never be disappointed
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Agreed, the ergonomic aspect of the design is fantastic. (Except for a difficult to operate home button) . But there's more to anthropomorphic design IMHO than ergonomics alone and that is style. The s3 has style, but is also lacks style, for example when it uses plastic materials to mimic steel.
Overall the ergonomics of the design are awesome. But it lacks some non functional, purely aesthetic design aspects. In that respect the HOX is better.

I love the design but everyone said plastic this, plastic that. When you put the protective cover on, would it matter anymore? I have a frosted white cover which I'm absolutely love. I don't know anyone in the right mind to have their phone naked so they can feel their glass/aluminum/ceramic etc... back cover
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Agreed, the ergonomic aspect of the design is fantastic. (Except for a difficult to operate home button) . But there's more to anthropomorphic design IMHO than ergonomics alone and that is style. The s3 has style, but is also lacks style, for example when it uses plastic materials to mimic steel.
Overall the ergonomics of the design are awesome. But it lacks some non functional, purely aesthetic design aspects. In that respect the HOX is better.
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Samsung Talks About How they Disguised the S III
Don’t Bring Your Work Home..Ever!
June 14, 2012 | 11 Comments | Tomorrow Works
The Samsung was GALAXY S III announced on May 3, 2012 in London, UK. With a flurry of rumors hitting the web prior to the official announcement, it was plain to see that a lot of people were eagerly awaiting the GALAXY S III. Though some marketers might have been happy about the buzz, the engineers, it turns out, had a hard time with all the attention.
Just about everything about the GALAXY S III, including patents and technology used on the device, was top secret. Accordingly, the engineers agreed that security was among the highest priorities of the GALAXY S III.
No I can’t tell you that the GALAXY S III is … @#$%^&*!
In movies and TV shows, the classic predicament of top-secret agents is the need to keep their identity secret – even to close family. Many engineers found that working on the GALAXY S III led them into living a “double-life”.
“I got so many questions about the GALAXY S III from friends and family”, said Senior Engineer YoungDoo Jin (S/W R&D). “But I’d say ‘don’t ask me or you’ll get me fired.’ I told them to check it out after it was officially made public.” Thankfully, the people around him were understanding and cared enough to respect his work.
Principal Engineer ByungJoon Lee (Mechanical R&D) was also grilled by family members.“My eldest son is in 6thgrade,” he shared.“He knew that I had worked on theGALAXY S and S II.So I guess he assumed that I’d do S III also. Every time he saw an article on the internet about the GALAXY S III he’d ask ‘Dad! You’re making the S III, right?’ But all I could say was ‘I don’t really know.’ It was really awkward.”
While his peers shared how sensitive they were about the issue, Senior EngineerYongMin Ha (S/W R&D) simply laughed.“I love my wife and my adorable kids. But I just never told them about my job from the beginning. Haha.”
For Your Eyes Only..
Yes, security is always important and Samsung runs a tight ship when it comes to information security. However, it was a bit more special for the GALAXY S III. For other projects, there’s usually a lot more teamwork. When a problem pops up, or when somebody gets stuck, everybody in the team gets an opportunity to chip in and help resolve the issue. But not for the GALAXY S III.
There was a separate labwith security cards, fingerprint readers and everything,designated only for the few that were approved for this top-secret project. Prototypes were put in security boxes to be moved, even just across the hallway, to prevent passers-by from catching a glimpse.
Deliveries of prototypes to partners and suppliers abroad weren’t outsourced to 3rd party logistics services as is usual practice, but were done in person. People in charge had to do a multi-country tour just to deliver prototypes, and testing procedures were monitored day and night to make sure no leaks in security occurred.
For security reasons, taking pictures was, of course, not permitted. This caused headaches for a lot of different teams, as you can imagine.
“Because we were only permitted to see the products and others weren’t,” explained Principal Engineer ByungJoon Lee (Mechanical R&D),“we couldn’t send pictures or drawings. We had to explain the GALAXY S III with all sorts of words. The Procurement Department had to set a price for the GALAXY S III and purchase the materials based on our verbal explanations. It was hard for everyone I guess.Hahaha.”
Dummy boxes and multiple prototypes
Generally, the design is settled on first and then engineers get to work to realize the product on schedule. However, development of the GALAXY S III was a totally different story.Therewere three different prototypes to avoid any design leaks. All were made like final products. This meant making three totally different, continuously changing models in the same time frame.Engineers had to repeat the same process for all three types.
“I was in charge of the antenna,” said Senior Engineer BeoungSun Lee (H/W R&D). “Generally, we manufacture the antenna based on the final design and request for authorization. However, for security reasons, we had to make the antenna over and over. We had to come up with a new antenna every time the new design came out. To be honest, it was quite tiring and frustrating”.
WooSun Yoon(Principal Engineer, H/W R&D) agreed. “There were many prototypes and yes,it takes more time and effort to make more working prototypes. It’s even more difficult when you’re sending those to different places for testing and yet at the same time hiding it from everyone. Time constraints pushed me to take a lot of helicopter rides back and forth. I’m glad we were able to keep the new GALAXY S IIIunder wraps to the end, but I can’t stress enough how hard it was.”
Principal Engineer WooSun Yoon (H/W R&D) also told us how disguises were used. “We had to make three types of the GALAXY SIIIto prevent the design from leaking. And on top of that, whenever any of these had to go out for testing, we put them inside ‘dummy boxes’, which are cases that hide the design of the device, to disguise it. Even if people, inside or out of the campus, saw the device, I doubt they would have known what it was.”
The Samsung GALAXY S IIIimpressed the world yet once again on May 3rd. The engineers deserve a lot of credit not only for making such a wonderful device, but also for all their efforts to keep the information secret. Next time we’ll explore a few more episodes regarding the development of the GALAXY S III.
http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=15267

Nexus 4 son of iPhone 4

So I was looking at the LG nexus 4 design and I liked it until I saw the back it looks too much like the iPhone 4/4s, I would be ashamed to pull this out of my pocket infront of a crowd. When people see it they are not going to say "hey thats the new nexus" their going to say "look LG copied the iPhone". So many android fans criticised iPhone for easily breaking but when a nexus phone COPIES it then it becomes okay, talking about being biased.
I mean I'm no head of design for apple but it's just an absolute copy if their where lots of phones with glass backs then it would be just another phone with a glass back, but the only phone that has that and has had that for 2 years is the iPhone I just can't understand. I was watching a video made by verge in google hq about the nexus 10, 7 and they said they choose the design to their liking then they obviously are a fan of the iPhone. I like the nexus 4 design but its been taken by another company I want apple to sue LG this is absolutely wrong companies like samsung and LG don't end up in court for no reason.
Another thing I noticed was the camera was underneath the glass panel but the camera flash light had a black ring around it which looked awful. if your going to copy someone atleast do it properly. It just goes to show that this is LG where talking about. I've heard a saying a person who copies another cannot do it better then the original because they intend to also inherit the same mistakes as the original. I've come to conclusion that all the mistakes to iphones made by shattering easily LG just did. I don't care if LG copies but this is a nexus android flagship, it is this device which will be compared to the iPhone /4s/5. How do you feel about the design I think they should have gone for the same back casing as nexus 10.
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I'm all for public appearances, but don't you think that not getting a phone because of what "people will think" when you pull it out of your pocket is a bit... well, selling what the device is a little short?
If you don't like the design, that's one thing, but not buying a phone because of what you think other people will think is convoluted to even type. xD I'd just a soon take the opportunity to tell them, "Heck no this isn't an iThing! It's the Nexus 4 and waaaaay better. Check out what Android can do." If even by your own admission it's a nice design, why let the fact that an iThing has it degrade it? If anything, it's a time to claim look who did it best!

aliHTCDHD said:
So I was looking at the LG nexus 4 design and I liked it until I saw the back it looks too much like the iPhone 4/4s, I would be ashamed to pull this out of my pocket infront of a crowd. When people see it they are not going to say "hey thats the new nexus" their going to say "look LG copied the iPhone". So many android fans criticised iPhone for easily breaking but when a nexus phone COPIES it then it becomes okay, talking about being biased.
I mean I'm no head of design for apple but it's just an absolute copy if their where lots of phones with glass backs then it would be just another phone with a glass back, but the only phone that has that and has had that for 2 years is the iPhone I just can't understand. I was watching a video made by verge in google hq about the nexus 10, 7 and they said they choose the design to their liking then they obviously are a fan of the iPhone. I like the nexus 4 design but its been taken by another company I want apple to sue LG this is absolutely wrong companies like samsung and LG don't end up in court for no reason.
Another thing I noticed was the camera was underneath the glass panel but the camera flash light had a black ring around it which looked awful. if your going to copy someone atleast do it properly. It just goes to show that this is LG where talking about. I've heard a saying a person who copies another cannot do it better then the original because they intend to also inherit the same mistakes as the original. I've come to conclusion that all the mistakes to iphones made by shattering easily LG just did. I don't care if LG copies but this is a nexus android flagship, it is this device which will be compared to the iPhone /4s/5. How do you feel about the design I think they should have gone for the same back casing as nexus 10.
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To say the Nexus 4 looks like a iPhone just because of a glass back is insane. It looks NOTHING like the iPhone. It has a pattern on the glass and it is rounded more than that Brick.

So iPhone users should be ashamed to use the pull down notification in the crowd according to your logic?
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When I said I didn't like the nexus 4 back design it wasn't because I care what people think that was just an example of what it reminds people of. I know that the nexus 4 does'nt look anything like an iPhone but the back does. Yes I know it has some sort of crystals but it still looks like an iPhone because only the iphone has a glass back, if more then the iPhone had a glass back then it would be okay but only the iPhone has a glass back.
Their was no need for the crystal effect that they used, only because without that it really would look like the back panel of an iPhone. Those crystals or what ever they are called are usually used on girly products handbags, jewellery etc I'm not saying men can't have diamonds and crystals on their clothes and products but they do say diamonds are a girl's best friend and they do attract the female audience more. If a girl sees the phone they will say how pretty because believe me it will attract them its true.
Another thing why hasn't anyone criticised it for being easily shattered like the iPhone or slippery. One more thing the nexus 4 does share a lot in common with the iPhone 4 double sided glass,metal or aluminium around it. I know the nexus is more rounded and it is absolutely identical to the galaxy nexus but the back panel is just wrong. One of the comments said that if anyone thinks the nexus 4 looks like the iPhone 4/4s because of the glass back panel are crazy then you are seriously insane for think it doesn't, why could they have not used polycarbonate or aluminium. Believe me because of this design the nexus 4 will probably be ban in some countries by the ITC, Apple already attempted to ban the nexus but dut to it having a battery hump and camera humo they failed but not this time especially with the use of a micro-sim and sealed battery.
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aliHTCDHD said:
Another thing why hasn't anyone criticised it for being easily shattered like the iPhone or slippery.
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Because we don't have any real REVIEWS and there is no indication that it's any more slippery than other devices? Have you held this device yet?
I don't really know why I am responding... you basically just said you think it's a girly device because of a pattern on the back. Feeling a bit insecure about sequins?

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Another thing why hasn't anyone criticised it for being easily shattered like the iPhone
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Gorilla glass2..... nuff said...

Zaihanzainal said:
Gorilla glass2..... nuff said...
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Meaning it wouldn't shatter just as easy? naaaaaaah glass will break period.
Gorilla Glass is just a brand name hell it might even be worse than some other third party and the glass is just efficient for minor scratches by like your nail not drops

I'm not a spokesperson for gg but if you see my other post about how my phone has been used and abused i think you'll understand why I'm pretty confident in it.... granted it doesn't stand much chance against sand and stuff but I'm pretty confident about it not shattering too easily...
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I want apple to sue LG this is absolutely wrong companies like samsung and LG don't end up in court for no reason.
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You want Apple to sue LG because it also have a phone with glass back? That is pretty ridiculous. Since when am I a consumer who is not allowed to buy any product made of glass unless it has an Apple logo?
Just don't buy the phone if you're ashamed of others seeing you with it. Personally, I do not buy phones to make status or fashion statements, I'm going to be doing more fun stuff on the actual device, it'll probably be in a case anyway.

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IMAGINE STUPID FANBOY OR TROLL PICTURE HERE THAT CLAIMS TO JUST SAY IT ALL!
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Although it's just plain petty to worry about whether some will regard your phone as a replica, it's just downright brain-dead to post these troll/fanboy posts. This is XDA for god's sake. For all things holy and respectable, can you please just cut out these dumb post-pics and just add to the discussion, if there even is one at this point? I mean, aren't you just getting sick of the words troll and fanboy? Personally, I would just as soon throw them into the incinerator and let them die a slow death.

2 separate screen protectors needed for the front and the back... Le sigh...

floepie said:
Although it's just plain petty to worry about whether some will regard your phone as a replica, it's just downright brain-dead to post these troll/fanboy posts. This is XDA for god's sake. For all things holy and respectable, can you please just cut out these dumb post-pics and just add to the discussion, if there even is one at this point? I mean, aren't you just getting sick of the words troll and fanboy? Personally, I would just as soon throw them into the incinerator and let them die a slow death.
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umadbro?... :silly:

i was kinda hoping for this back

I love that tactile sensation on iPhone 4, now it on best android device. Glass back - this is great!
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noobdeagle said:
i was kinda hoping for this back
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Give me a pink Brony edition with glittered back any days.
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Precisely
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This entire thread is pretty amusing, especially the OP.
I'm not going to argue for or against it looking like an iPhone or whatever.
However, I was under the impression that Apple picked glass for functional reasons and not purely for aesthetics. I believe it allows wireless signals through more easily than most metals and is tougher than most plastics.
So LG may have chosen it for the same reasons?

htc one matches macbook pro design

I was reading a review of the HTC One (I know, I'm behind) and I came to the realization that the design of the HTC One nicely matches the design of my Retina Macbook Pro. It has the same white aluminum design, speaker grilles are the same type, and white accents match the ports and other white accents of the Macbook. Compare these:
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It makes me wonder why there isn't a very consistent design ethos with Apple's products, I feel like it would be really cool if they kept the same design cues.

paravorheim said:
I was reading a review of the HTC One (I know, I'm behind) and I came to the realization that the design of the HTC One nicely matches the design of my Retina Macbook Pro. It has the same white aluminum design, speaker grilles are the same type, and white accents match the ports and other white accents of the Macbook. Compare these:
It makes me wonder why there isn't a very consistent design ethos with Apple's products, I feel like it would be really cool if they kept the same design cues.
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I think you're reading too much into it; both devices use aluminium and speakers have a grid of holes to allow for passage of sound.
There's nothing cool about "keeping design cues" across companies -- only leads to litigation and overall aggravation.

I think its pretty nice to be rocking all aluminum devices. Aluminum is just so nice looking. The only reason I would ever want a Macbook would be because of the build quality. I like my custom PC though, and don't really have the need to carry around a laptop. If I did though it would probably be a macbook. Either that or an expensive Asus since they also have some nice aluminum style laptops/ultrabooks for high prices. Maybe one day.

Dr Doppio said:
I think you're reading too much into it; both devices use aluminium and speakers have a grid of holes to allow for passage of sound.
There's nothing cool about "keeping design cues" across companies -- only leads to litigation and overall aggravation.
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I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. For that, I apologize. I meant that it would be cool if Apple kept design cues across its own entire line, not between separate companies' products.

xXxG0dzRAgexXx said:
I think its pretty nice to be rocking all aluminum devices. Aluminum is just so nice looking. The only reason I would ever want a Macbook would be because of the build quality. I like my custom PC though, and don't really have the need to carry around a laptop. If I did though it would probably be a macbook. Either that or an expensive Asus since they also have some nice aluminum style laptops/ultrabooks for high prices. Maybe one day.
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The problem I have with ASUS laptops is that their touchpads were always so finicky. Although, I really do want one of their touchscreen ultrabooks. My rMBP is pretty good in terms of performance and battery life, plus the screen is downright gorgeous.

I have been an iphone user since 3gs. Had all models except the iphone 5 which was a great dissapointment. I expected a radikal design change and got...meh. Design like the HTC One was more or less what I expected from iphone 5 but never got. And also the fact that IOS has looked the same since my 3gs back in 2009 made me switch to Android.
This was what I was expecting from iphone5: http://www.inrumor.com/in/technology/iphone-5-design-by-patrick-eckert-brilliant-concept/
Doesnt matter now, HTC One looks great. Cant wait to get it . Dont really know what I meant by above rambling except that I agrees that it looks like macbook pro design

paravorheim said:
I was reading a review of the HTC One (I know, I'm behind) and I came to the realization
that the design of the HTC One nicely matches the design of my Retina Macbook Pro.
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Another Apple product design ...which directly references (rips off) most of Dieter Rams' designs for Braun in the 1960's
But Apple will most probably still try to sue HTC

compact_bijou said:
Another Apple product design ...which directly references (rips off) most of Dieter Rams' designs for Braun in the 1960's
But Apple will most probably still try to sue HTC
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Don't think apple will sue HTC they made a deal or something

paravorheim said:
I was reading a review of the HTC One (I know, I'm behind) and I came to the realization that the design of the HTC One nicely matches the design of my Retina Macbook Pro. It has the same white aluminum design, speaker grilles are the same type, and white accents match the ports and other white accents of the Macbook.
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Oh dear. This means Apple might sue HTC for copying if the HTC One is successful.

AW: htc one matches macbook pro design
Dosen't Apple sue every successful competitor - irrespective of the prospects?
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This was the first thing i thought to myself when i first saw the One. It looks like a Mac. Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that HTC copied anything; i'm saying that the One is one fine ass device, just like a Mac. I bet Jony Ive is pulling the hair he has left on his head, and screaming "THIS! This is beautiful! This should be an iPhone!", because this could be an iPhone. It's currently the best looking piece of tech out there.

glumardok said:
Dosen't Apple sue every successful competitor - irrespective of the prospects?
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I believe that Apple was sue-happy when Jobs was in power, but Tim Cook is pretty against it. It doesn't seem like the HTC One really infringes on Apple design patents, but I'm not an IP lawyer, so...

LordManhattan said:
This was the first thing i thought to myself when i first saw the One. It looks like a Mac. Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that HTC copied anything; i'm saying that the One is one fine ass device, just like a Mac. I bet Jony Ive is pulling the hair he has left on his head, and screaming "THIS! This is beautiful! This should be an iPhone!", because this could be an iPhone. It's currently the best looking piece of tech out there.
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I like how it tapers just like the macbook pros. Not as much as the Air (cause that would just feel weird in your hand) but tapering to a thinner edge. It provides that super-thin illusion. But it's just that, an illusion. Which kind of pisses me off. Looking at other designs, it seems that HTC definitely could have engineered a thinner phone, but left an extra couple of mm's. Not that it truly matters, but it's those kinds of things that people like to compare in the real world.

paravorheim said:
I like how it tapers just like the macbook pros. Not as much as the Air (cause that would just feel weird in your hand) but tapering to a thinner edge. It provides that super-thin illusion. But it's just that, an illusion. Which kind of pisses me off. Looking at other designs, it seems that HTC definitely could have engineered a thinner phone, but left an extra couple of mm's. Not that it truly matters, but it's those kinds of things that people like to compare in the real world.
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Yes, you're totally right. It LOOKS thinner than most phones out there, but its actually "fatter". It's only 4mm at the edges, so that's the reason.
The iPhone 5 is 7.5(?)mm thin, but the One looks as thin. The S4 is under 8mm thick, but it looks kinda chubby compared to the One. Nexus 4 is 8.5mm or something, but it looks like a freaking brick. Now, 9.3mm isn't thick at all, but even a thinner device can look like a brick. Xperia Z is 7.7mm, looks fatter than the One too.
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First thing Steve Jobs did when he got through the pearly gates was Sue God for claiming to have invented the apple.