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Hating this @#&!% Phone; ready to toss it like John Locke

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Came from WinMo 6.5.x HD2 and a former Blackberry user. First go at Android. Got my Evo on launch day and I was super happy with it and the OS in general. Fast forward to a week later and I'm ready to toss it.
1. First there was a dead pixel and yellow streaks on any white background.
2. A little light leaking at the bottom but I had already read about that before buying in.
3. Then now the screen is rising at the bottom. Pressing down on it makes it feel like the screen has suspension; what is this a Blackberry Storm?!?!?!
4. And my fav is the fact that my device likes to reset itself at will. The phone just sits on my desk and all of a sudden the screen lights up and then it begins the reset 4G logo and all that jazz. It's now happened over a dozen times in just the last 3 days (Maybe more while I slept).
Now RadioShack keeps telling me they are getting more in and then they all get sold before I get there. They keep telling me they are going to hold one for me but of course they don't do so and instead make a new sale. Told them just now, that I'm done and am just going to bring my phone back and end my new contract and take my business somewhere else.
I do not trust the Evo! Anyone who has an Evo and says they don't have issues is just setting themselves up for issues later. The Evo has issues sooner or later. For some of us it has been sooner, and for the rest of you, it will be later. I've had 3 HD2's and still have one and they never had any of these issues. The build quality on the HD2 was much better, not to mention the thinness made for a perfect size and feel. If you are used to the feel of the HD2, then you'll miss how this it is once you handle the Evo. Days later and I still dislike how thick the Evo is (all other dim are just fine).
Now the question is what to get next??? I do really like Android but the Nexus One is an ugly little phone to my eyes and all the rest also have screens too small. I guess I don't have little princess girlie hands and so I can't understand the complaints about 4 inch + screen devices being too big. At this point I'm ready to try the iPhone 4G even though the small screen and no removable battery, bug me a lot. So they claim Apple has great build quality and that's one thing I want for sure. Then again I also want to try the Samsung Galaxy S but I can't get confirmation as to when it will be release here and on what carrier first. The Cell Phone Gods are really raining something wicked on this gadget loving dude........
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Why not just go to a Sprint Corporate store with your phone and have them order you a new one.. Atleast then you won't get the run around from Radio Shack. I agree, you've got some issues there, but that's not to say your next phone will be the same. Sounds like you got a total lemon to me...

A lot of the issues you describe seem to be specific to one particular hardware revision of the EVO. If you search around on the forum you will see that people with units from earlier batches seem to be plagued by this stuff. My experience has been exactly the opposite, with the only unwanted resets occurring when I've been hacking the phone. If you can hold out for a replacement from a newer batch, I'm sure you will be a lot more satisfied.

They have a 30 day return period, right? It is there to remedy users like you feeling like they are stuck with a device they don't want. *edit* Maybe not since you indicated you bought at the crap shack. I'm not familiar with their return policy as I bought online from Sprint direct.
Even jailbroken, I will never be on the iPhone band wagon with you, but I hope it works out on your end.
As far as XDA goes, if you stay you will be isolated in the iPhone general forum here.
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WOW....you know whats funny?..The same story your telling happened to me, BUT i had an HD2. The HD2 was the biggest POS i have ever owned in my entire life. The EVO has treated me well and i have NONE of the issues stated.
Clearly you have a bad phone. I say you either try and wait to snatch up a good working phone OR jump ship, iPhone 4. I had an iPhone for 2years...its a great phone!

what will ranting do? we see these posts daily on android forums, ppc geeks and xda.... htc nor sprint are looking at these posts.
look, if you are not happy with the device, return it for a FULL REFUND. then go to bestbuy tomorrow and pre order the iphone4. easy peasy lemon squeezy...

marctronixx said:
what will ranting do? we see these posts daily on android forums, ppc geeks and xda.... htc nor sprint are looking at these posts.
look, if you are not happy with the device, return it for a FULL REFUND. then go to bestbuy tomorrow and pre order the iphone4. easy peasy lemon squeezy...
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Funniest thing i have heard all day

Thanks for your input guys!
Last night I read page after page on all the popular forums and blogs. It seems that these issues (mainly the screen rising) are happening to many folks out there. Some people are claiming the same things are happening on replacement phones as well. And again, I'm sitting here playing around with both the Evo and HD2 and I just keep wishing that the Evo will look over at the HD2, get inspired and suck in its stomach to be a little thinner like the HD2. Ha!
The pictures of the glue being the issue with the screen, really leads me to believe that it's just a matter of time until it happens to all of the current Evo's sold or about to be sold. I'm sure they’ll fix the issue with yet to be assembled Evo's but I don't trust the current batch to stay solid. I just don't want to invest hours and hours of my life tweaking the heck out of a device and then have to get rid of it in a few months. As I type right now, I thought my phone was about to start ringing but nope it was the resetting again.
Oh well......Gotta do something though because having a working phone is a must......

marctronixx said:
what will ranting do? we see these posts daily on android forums, ppc geeks and xda.... htc nor sprint are looking at these posts.
look, if you are not happy with the device, return it for a FULL REFUND. then go to bestbuy tomorrow and pre order the iphone4. easy peasy lemon squeezy...
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Relax! Just letting off a little steam and sharing my experience with the rest of the class. After all this is a forum for sharing the good, bad and everything in between........
If I do go for the iPhone, I think I'll be the only person who gets a case just to cover up the Apple logo on the back. I really dislike doing the popular phone. Around my town, there is a whole breed of kids who drive Volkswagen Jetta's (or BMW 3 series with lease payments they can hardly afford); shop at The Gap and drink Starbuck daily if not hourly and all have iPhones. I'd like to stay away from becoming more and more like them. Okay all joking aside, I'm not an Apple fan but I would like to just stick with something nice this month.

If you do switch...
Which I think if you just try one more time, you'll stay.. If not then I would get the Iphone 4, It looks pretty sweet. I came to this new Evo from being a 3GS PROUD owner, I loved that phone, there wasn't a thing that I couldn't do with that phone. or a single App, widget or way I couldn't make it behave. (sorry)
I used and abused that phone. Battery worked like new after 2 years of abuse and tethering. Not one single problem with that phone. As for jailbreaking future, they will have 4.0 broken, they already do. and thats all you need to get everything you want.
What I would do is, and I'm startin to think about it too...
Go up to the main store like dude up top said, and give it a try, if you still have like a week left you can slow play it out to the last second and if they don't get it or refuse, then just cut it off. Get your money back and go get a freakin Iphone! and even tell em when you leave, "F*** THIS! I'M GETTI'N A IPHONE!!

have to agree that the hd2 build quality blows the evo away. most people wouldn't notice the things i notice but the power button on my evo is uneven and the camera is slightly crooked. not a deal breaker just bad quality. i did return my first unit because of a dead pixel.

BAleR said:
Which I think if you just try one more time, you'll stay.. If not then I would get the Iphone 4, It looks pretty sweet. I came to this new Evo from being a 3GS PROUD owner, I loved that phone, there wasn't a thing that I couldn't do with that phone. or a single App, widget or way I couldn't make it behave. (sorry)
I used and abused that phone. Battery worked like new after 2 years of abuse and tethering. Not one single problem with that phone. As for jailbreaking future, they will have 4.0 broken, they already do. and thats all you need to get everything you want.
What I would do is, and I'm startin to think about it too...
Go up to the main store like dude up top said, and give it a try, if you still have like a week left you can slow play it out to the last second and if they don't get it or refuse, then just cut it off. Get your money back and go get a freakin Iphone! and even tell em when you leave, "F*** THIS! I'M GETTI'N A IPHONE!!
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I've been using 4inch + screens since 2004 (HP Pocket PC's) and I'm not sure I'll be able to go smaller so right now that's my main issue with the iPhone. Going to the 4.3" screen of the Evo, could you see yourself going back to a 3.5" screen?

Sounds like you have a lemon. No need to *****, bring it back to sprint or radio shack and get a new one or your money back.
Simple solution. If they don't have one ask sprint to order it for you.

AshMa said:
Days later and I still dislike how thick the Evo is (all other dim are just fine).
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I hate to admit it but you are a much better man than I.
I cannot tell a 1.7mm difference in my hand when not holding both together, side by side, even then it's tough. (considering that a microSD card is approx. 1mm in thickness). Nor can I tell the difference of 13 grams in weight (.4585 ounces).
You must have superhuman senses or a micrometer.

Aridon said:
Sounds like you have a lemon. No need to *****, bring it back to sprint or radio shack and get a new one or your money back.
Simple solution. If they don't have one ask sprint to order it for you.
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So just to be clear; if someone goes to a forum devoted to a device and begins to explain their experience with said device, it is *****ing as long as said experience is negative in nature? However, should one's experience be positive; then those comments are not to be considered *****ing? Okay, glad we're all on the same page here. Makes all the sense in the world......
Again as I've already stated; I ported in from T-Mobile. If I return my phone to RadioShack, then I will be ending my new Sprint contract and have to start a new contract elsewhere and in doing so, I will most likely not be able to keep my number of 10 years (not an option or risk I can take).

misticjeff said:
I hate to admit it but you are a much better man than I.
I cannot tell a 1.7mm difference in my hand when not holding both together, side by side, even then it's tough. (considering that a microSD card is approx. 1mm in thickness). Nor can I tell the difference of 13 grams in weight (.4585 ounces).
You must have superhuman senses or a micrometer.
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Haha! Really, I'm 6'1 and I'm guessing I have pretty big hands because I don't think any 4"+ screen device is too big. And the Evo can fit in my shirt or pants pockets with no problem. But after 2 months on the HD2, I really do miss how slim it's profile feels. I just picked them both up and I can't see how you or anyone else couldn't feel a difference. It may not be a big a big deal to many and would be even less so to me, had I never had the HD2 first.

boredmug said:
Why not just go to a Sprint Corporate store with your phone and have them order you a new one.. Atleast then you won't get the run around from Radio Shack. I agree, you've got some issues there, but that's not to say your next phone will be the same. Sounds like you got a total lemon to me...
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Agreed, you got a lemon, go back and replace it. Sprint is good on that except since there is a shortage you might have to wait a bit... :\
good luck on the next one. It's honestly a good & cool phone. All the phones i have seen in person hasn't had any of these issues.

Hating my Evo now but still loving Android
So I have issues with my Evo and a hunch that I'm not alone in having problems. But does posting about it, make me a troll? That would be strange considering I wrote the below post right after I got my hands on an Evo.
My Evo experience from another post, BEFORE the issues started:
"I should be thanking you one last time for making the best ROM for the last and best WinMo 6.5 device which should go down in history someday. I'm already missing this thread; the email alerts and all of your updates you do here, plus the regular peeps around here have been real helpful and nice here on your thread.
I'll send you a PM about my HD2 for sale. I figure I'll sell it and add a lot of my paid apps along with it on a disc and then give away the rest to anyone who wants/needs them.
I don't want to turn you or anyone else away from the HD2 because I still really love and respect it. However, I thought I'd share some of my thoughts today after getting to know the EVO.
The thinness of the HD2, beats the EVO as you hold them both, you can feel the extra bulk of the evo, even though the weight difference is not much, not too bad as the reviews I've read. A pretty big difference for me right off the bat, was that the evo' screen def looks brighter than that of the HD2. Not just at first glance but all throughout today, I keep checking them out and I say wow what is it about the evo screen as if it's brighter and has a higher resolution. But I thought they both had the same screens?!
I've been tapping away on the evo screen all day and I also have to say that even though the screen is glass, it DOES NOT feel as thick/solid (for lack of a better word), as the one on the HD2. If you tap your fingernail on the evo screen and then the HD2 screen, you can feel that it seems thinner, almost, almost seems just a bit plastic like. Perhaps people, who aren't used to the HD2, might not notice this. And then again perhaps it's all just in my head from a lack of sleep (was on my way to Radio Shack at 5:30AM after 3 hours sleep).
Moving on to things that I know you guys can relate to here on this thread. MESSAGING!!!! It works VERY WELL and looks just fine. Fine as in very good. No more of the messaging tab (no tabs at all). Swype is framed right and seems to work a bit faster and smoother than on the HD2. Also the HTC keyboard, by a huge leap, works much better on the evo. I don't know why that is but I can use the HTC keyboard now and be pretty fast, fast enough to think twice about always using Swype. Really guys, the keyboard is much improved somehow. And the best part of the HTC evo keyboard is the voice to text WORKS REALLY well. I got a text while I was driving on the freeway with the A/C mid speed, I hit the speech button and spoke 120+ characters and it got them all right. And yes I know I should not be looking at my phone while driving (which makes the whole speech thing that much more useful).
This morning I was driving to get the evo and I started to wonder if I really wanted to walk away from WinMo and my HD2. I thought about all the apps I love on the HD2 and how there are a number of things I can do with the HD2, that can't be done or done the same on Android. I would keep the HD2 because I like it that much, but at the end of the day, I'm not a wasteful person and I do appreciate the things in my life, so I figure I shouldn't just burn $400.00 (cost of the phone plus the T-Mobile early termination fee) for a device I've had for only a couple of months. I think all the flashing I did, made the HD2 feel old to me because I don't feel like I've owned it only since March 24th.
The HD2 is smooth in terms of hardware/design and even the OS (thanks to Kumar), but the evo is even more smooth in all the same ways and then some. I wouldn't have known just how much I like the device and even the OS, until I brought the device home. No longer having to worry about any app or OS feature being finger friendly, seems to matter to me, more than I realized.
Again, I'm not trying to sell anyone here on the evo. Rather I'm just sharing my thoughts and excitement about this beautiful device, which happens to be related to another beautiful device known as the HD2.
I've already rooted the evo (was a very painless process) and now comes the painful part in testing 100 apps and all that tweaking stuff......
BTW' Kumar, It's too bad about the CDMA thing because that would have been really nice, if you were doing your work on this device, right alongside the HD2.
Sorry for this novel size post"

danknee said:
They have a 30 day return period, right? It is there to remedy users like you feeling like they are stuck with a device they don't want. *edit* Maybe not since you indicated you bought at the crap shack. I'm not familiar with their return policy as I bought online from Sprint direct.
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Well, no need to get derogatory Radioshack has the same 30-day window that everyone else has; can't sell a phone without it, part of standard negotiations with carriers. That said, replacing a defective phone is generally very easy, but with the EVO, the way it's flying off the shelves, it's not easy to get ahold of one.
Here's the problem: if a store gets ten preorders, they might get five extra phones. When those phones come in, EVERYONE who missed out before KNOWS it, because they've been asking all week, and they show up bright and early. Things can get a little hectic. If you had one set aside for exchange, oftentimes not ALL of the employees are aware (unfortunately, this sometimes happens), and said employee sees a phone and sells it. It's a risk you take with a phone like that; I personally will never buy a phone in its first batch partially because of that exact issue.
What you need to do if contact the store you bought it at, tell them to take down your name and number on a large piece of paper, and write "HOLD EVO FOR EXCHANGE" on it in huge letters. Ask them to inform EVERY employee so there can be no mistakes. That way, when the phones come in, they can physically put it aside (hide it if necessary) and call you so you can do the swap at your leisure.
Some stores just don't do many wireless exchanges, so they space things off, I'm sad to say. Sorry you've had such a miserable experience so far.

AshMa said:
Haha! Really, I'm 6'1 and I'm guessing I have pretty big hands because I don't think any 4"+ screen device is too big. And the Evo can fit in my shirt or pants pockets with no problem. But after 2 months on the HD2, I really do miss how slim it's profile feels. I just picked them both up and I can't see how you or anyone else couldn't feel a difference. It may not be a big a big deal to many and would be even less so to me, had I never had the HD2 first.
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Mostly just funnin' with ya... you'll notice in my signature that I own an HD2 as well (Telstra ATT 3G). Running an ENERGY ROM on it and love it as well. Problem for me is that WinMo has run its course and I really like Android. At the end of the day they are both nice phones, perhaps a small nod to the HD2 for design, but not enough to keep me away from the EVO.

Onnia 7 QC issues?

(why is there no omnia 7 forum?)
I've just been told by t-mobile that the Omnia 7 has QC issues and their deliveries yesterday were returned to their suppliers, anyone know what these might be?

I just picked one up today from Orange!.. I wonder if mine is affected
I heard from vodafone store that their delivery of LG Optimus (Win7) came in and had to be recalled immediately without sale due to a bluetooth issue.

The build quality of the Omnia is one of the things that worries me after reports like this and the issues with the Galaxy series.
Evilanglic, since you now have your hands on one, what are your impressions of the device? Does it seem solid?

Much more solid than I was expecting. I thought it would feel like a light plastic shell like the Samsung Galaxy S.
It really is very nice, no creaks, just a solid slab of deep black technology! Good times.
The back is actually wrapped in metal to the edge of the screen on the sides, it is only the top and bottom of the device which are solid plastic sort-of-cap/ends of the device.
You definitely can't call it a unibody (or can you?..) but as I say... sort of mostly 'wrapped' in a sheet of metal.
It was a close call between the (SAMOLED) Omnia and the (very nice crisp LCD) HTC Mozart, the latter fits the hand better of course due to size, but in the end the slick all black face of the Omnia, adorned with its high contrast SAMOLED screen, just made it worth it despite the low actual PPI!
It would have been nice if the rockers and camera buttons where more metallic or... metal, but instead they are old school black plastic. They work well nonetheless.
The home button is also not the most premium of push switches (compared to iPhone of course) but it is nice to have a soild key!
I would urge you to get both of these devices side by side in the store if you can, but be careful because it took me at least 20 minutes to tell the man which one I wanted to take out lol...
Here are a few pics of the construction as links:

I'm jealous. I have about 2 weeks before WP7 comes out in the US. That and you guys got the better selection of phones (minus Micro SD expansion). I am definitely getting the Focus though. Best choice out of the options available in my opinion.

ryotgz said:
I'm jealous. I have about 2 weeks before WP7 comes out in the US. That and you guys got the better selection of phones (minus Micro SD expansion). I am definitely getting the Focus though. Best choice out of the options available in my opinion.
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It's very un-Microsoft!

Freypal said:
The build quality of the Omnia is one of the things that worries me after reports like this and the issues with the Galaxy series.
Evilanglic, since you now have your hands on one, what are your impressions of the device? Does it seem solid?
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Yeah. I wont touch a single Samsung phone after the trouble the Vibrant gave my stepmom. It's not fun trying to give tech support to someone 1500 miles away, over the phone with the issues, to a lady with no clue about technology.
EDIT: It reminded me of the time I had to help someone with Windows ME. They didn't know where the "desktop" was! As you can imagine, that was a loooooong phone call.

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Yeah. I wont touch a single Samsung phone after the trouble the Vibrant gave my stepmom. It's not fun trying to give tech support to someone 1500 miles away, over the phone with the issues, to a lady with no clue about technology.
EDIT: It reminded me of the time I had to help someone with Windows ME. They didn't know where the "desktop" was! As you can imagine, that was a loooooong phone call.
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I've owned a few samsungs in the past (years ago lol), and they didn't give me any trouble. I suppose it was before the major smartphone race of the the last few years though haha.
I only went for the Omnia after holding it myself, there was no way I was going to order a Samsung phone without getting into a store and exploring it - but it was more solid than expected.
Hopefully if there are any support problems in the future, I will just take it to the high street store I got it from and play super dumb and demand a replacement or different phone lol... no harm done.
It seems like a negative thing to say but keep in mind that the phone really is good right now, no problems at all, everything works perfectly so far.
Note for those not in the know: the location based issues of Android Samsungs are not present here! On maps it focuses down with GSM triangulation and GPS pinpoint kicks in a couple of seconds later, super speedy!

Well that's a relief. I suppose the biggest factor that makes it feel so much better is that it's got some metal, right?

Mine's just arrived.
First impressions are very good. It feels very sturdy with no creaks and the metal casing is nice. It feels much more solid than my HTC Blackstone, although I am worried about such a large screen getting damaged!
It's going to have to stay off whilst the sim card registers. Annoying wait ahead!

How come you got this over the mozart?

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How come you got this over the mozart?
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I was reading conflicting reviews on the Mozart's camera and since I mainly use my mobile for web browsing the extra screen acres sold it for me.
The screen quality is awsome by the way. The device also looks way better in the flesh. It seems it may also have Cornings gorilla glass which would be a welcome addition!

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I was reading conflicting reviews on the Mozart's camera and since I mainly use my mobile for web browsing the extra screen acres sold it for me.
The screen quality is awsome by the way. The device also looks way better in the flesh. It seems it may also have Cornings gorilla glass which would be a welcome addition!
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For web browsing I might have thought it possibly more comfortable to use the Mozart's SLCD with RGB pixels (higher subpixel count) if you have good eyes that is lol.
I just cant get over how amazing the 4" SAMOLED looks though...
Because of the all black screen surround, and the nature of the WP7 text laid out to the edge of the screen, it sort of looks like your phone is just one massive display, which a lot of it is... lol
The blacks of the SAMOLED just merge with the black surround! So cool.
Where does the screen end?! lol
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I am a happy omnia 7 owner. Just like what the other said, solid construction, beautiful screen.
But the build in app is sub-par (vs lg optimus) and I hope I don't regret choosing a device with 8GB of storage.
Cheers

A user over on MoDaCo forums is reporting that their T-Mobile account manager has told them that the Omnia 7 has been temporarily pulled due to software issues.
I've been waiting on one of these for some time as well, and was told today that their most recent update for handset stocks (issued internally today) did not include a new batch of Omnia 7s. The CSR I spoke to wouldn't be drawn on any specific problems with the handset, except to say that "there have been a few issues" with the ones we've received, and that I would be receiving a call in due course to let me know when mine would be delivered.
Does anyone else know anything about this?

gcaw - apparently they have dispatched Omnia 7's now on T-mobile, so I'd get on the phone ASAP.

risq - many thanks for letting me know about that. As it happens, fifteen hours after I'd made my previous post, I received a call from T-Mobile to let me know that they had stock and confirming delivery later today, but I'm grateful that you informed me of that - and hopefully others will have taken note of that information and successfully placed orders themselves.
I was also pleased to hear from the CSR (the same one I spoke to yesterday) that T-Mobile is extending the same deal to new Omnia 7 owners as it offers to Android buyers, giving 3GB of monthly data usage at no additional cost, rather than the standard 1GB offered under the fair usage policy for other handsets.
Compared with the rather pitiful 500MB offered on O2's contracts, that's a pretty awesome deal.

QC seems top notch!
Posted this on another forum. I'm happy about the build:
Well it had to happen sooner or later, in under a week I've dropped the Omnia 7 while lazily trying to hit snooze just moments ago (typing this message with my phone now lol). Dropped from about table height, and while it was dark, sounded like it landed on a corner first... Picked it up in the dark and dropped it again, this time hitting face flat on the ground.. My floors got a wood finish on top of a normal concrete slab so its pretty solid. Shocked and not feeling so lazy anymore, turned lights on, inspected phone, and absolutely no scratches to be seen...i think this is due to the matte looking polycarbonate plastic they use, plus the color looking like its been amalgamated with the actual plastic, I say this because I remember on my htc touch HD the bezel would scratch/chip so easily because all it was was some cheap paint over plastic/metal? As for glass, i read it's gorilla glass, whether or not it is, I'm glad it isn't scratched... My screen protector can't come soon enough,
Either way, I'm glad to know the Omnia7 is a solid beast . Though in truth, after dropping it, my excitement and feelings of it being a new toy has slightly washed off... My feeling now is 'it might be damaged somewhere'

Atrix owners question

Just wanted to know if this phone is an upgrade from the Captivate (prefer a former or current owner of both phones to chime in...)
I know the screen is not as pretty, and there are issues with the bootloader unlocking time will solve that I am sure =).
next month my contract is up so I am looking for a cappy replacement.
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I had it but there were just too many issues (you can search these threads as there have already been plenty of them pointed out) so I returned it. I am waiting for the summer phones to come out. If you don't care to have a custom kernel / full fledged ROM then it may be a good upgrade for you. I however would like a bit more control over my device

I jumped from the captivate to the atrix. I personally love it. Its gps among other things work out of the box.
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I came from a captivate to the atrix and I like it. I flashed a new rom on my cally like every third day hoping to fix its issues. The atrix doesn't have any real roms yet but every thing already works great on the atrix so I'm content. I'd be happy if I got it to OC and enabled hsupa.
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had cappy now atrix.
everything about teh atrix works better and faster.......even with atrix being stock VS my cap with custom rom/kernel and overclocked.
im annoyed that the bootloader is locked, but when it comes down to it, theres not a better phone on at&t at the moment.

My wife loves her Atrix, but she is new to android. I am going to keep my Atrix so long as I don't have any problems with this one. My first one would shut down on its own with 60% battery still.
Someone above mentioned returning theirs because of problems, but seriously I think its a select few with different problems. I dont see many people popping up with the same problem. Obviously do some research before buying it. If you enjoyed flashing roms on your captivate because you liked to tinker with it, then dont get this phone. If you only flashed roms because your phone didnt do what you wanted to, then I'd say give this phone a shot. I love the webtop and the car dock for this thing. The comment that made me want to keep mine was someone in a similar thread saying "2 cores and 1 gig of ram vs 1 core and 512 meg of ram..." eventually the software will be able to bring this thing beyond the captivate, and in the mean time it is running at least as good, if not better, than the captivate.
oh and for all the qHD complaints, I just took my screen protector off and the screen looks better and responds better now. I already have a parts teardown guide for this so hopefully if I need to replace the screen it wont be too difficult.
just my 3 or 4 cents

Yeah I am not too concerned about how locked down it is, as long as I can root it and install what I want I am happy with that (bootloader will be hacked in due time or openly unlocked by the MAN), my main concern was the screen quality, and if there were more or less functions than the cappy, Note: not that the captivate really fully functions as all of us gps users know.
However the cappy has such a nice screen and coming from a 3GS to the captivate even with its flaws was an upgrade.
I just want to make sure that going from the captivate if I sacrifice the higher contrast nicer color/responding touch screen to the Atrix's higher resolution but less fancy screen that its not going to be a deal breaker. In the end it comes down to function.
Thank you guys also for getting back to me your input is valuable.

Athailias said:
oh and for all the qHD complaints, I just took my screen protector off and the screen looks better and responds better now. I already have a parts teardown guide for this so hopefully if I need to replace the screen it wont be too difficult.
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Uhmm .. dumb question .. what screen protector are you talking about

eclypse3demons said:
Yeah I am not too concerned about how locked down it is, as long as I can root it and install what I want I am happy with that (bootloader will be hacked in due time or openly unlocked by the MAN), my main concern was the screen quality, and if there were more or less functions than the cappy, Note: not that the captivate really fully functions as all of us gps users know.
However the cappy has such a nice screen and coming from a 3GS to the captivate even with its flaws was an upgrade.
I just want to make sure that going from the captivate if I sacrifice the higher contrast nicer color/responding touch screen to the Atrix's higher resolution but less fancy screen that its not going to be a deal breaker. In the end it comes down to function.
Thank you guys also for getting back to me your input is valuable.
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I had the captivate before the atrix as well, and at first i was nervous because i read these forums sayin the screen quality was pretty bad on the atrix. However, maybe i'm blind or have different tastes but i find the screen to be much more natural. When i place the cappy next to the atrix, the cappy looks like it's trying to induce a seizure with all the poppin colors.
The only thing i don't like (probably easily fixable), is the stock keyboard. It seems the harder you press the less responsive the keyboard is. Instead of downloading a new keyboard (i will in due time) i just turned off the vibration and it seemed to help a bit.
I will not be giving up my cappy though, but it will not be my main phone. I will use it to flash the bajesus out of it, cause lets face it, that's a great hobby

The only thing I would add is that you will want a new launcher. The screen resolution makes the icons small. I bought ADW launcher EX as it allows for resizing icons. I do not miss my captivate - no lag and better email and calendar on Attic.
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I will say if you sit the Atrix next to an iPhone 4 it makes the screen on the Atrix look 10 years old. Say what you want to defend that but it's the truth. The qHD screen doesn't even belong in the same league and I am by no means an Apple fanboy.
The phone was about 80% plastic, although it was very light to carry.
Now that is just my opinion and I would suggest you go look at one for yourself before making your decision.
Edit: Also there were a lot of small things that I didn't like, design wise. The ear piece speaker looked like it was just stuck on there quickly, wasn't aligned. Same with the camera hole, it was not aligned with the hole on the case, etc. You would never find these "flaws" or whatever you want to call them with a well designed piece of hardware. Overall it felt like a cheap built phone.

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Uhmm .. dumb question .. what screen protector are you talking about
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The AT&T store had a custom fitting screen protector that made the screen look like an old crt monitor. When I replaced my phone I didnt buy another screen protector and the display is pretty nice without it. I cant be sure that its more responsive without the screen protector as i have not put one on this specific phone, but its more responsive than the one I replaced.

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Just wanted to know if this phone is an upgrade from the Captivate (prefer a former or current owner of both phones to chime in...)
I know the screen is not as pretty, and there are issues with the bootloader unlocking time will solve that I am sure =).
next month my contract is up so I am looking for a cappy replacement.
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Overcome owned a captivate and now own an Atrix. I loved my captivate and would probably still have it if it weren't for the battery life. It couldn't go longer than like 6 hours for me, the Atrix om the other hand has gone as long as 14h for me. I miss my captivates screen but ill trade that for battery life. And motoblur has been a non factor for me. But If you have a captivate and like it, I probably wousldnt get the Atrix.
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Overcome owned a captivate and now own an Atrix. I loved my captivate and would probably still have it if it weren't for the battery life. It couldn't go longer than like 6 hours for me, the Atrix om the other hand has gone as long as 14h for me. I miss my captivates screen but ill trade that for battery life. And motoblur has been a non factor for me. But If you have a captivate and like it, I probably wousldnt get the Atrix.
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See thats the thing, there are so many things wrong with the captivate including GPS and Battery and to be honest the reception is not all that great, and neither is the speaker, or speakerphone so I guess I have one of two choices get the Atrix or wait for the S2(and there is no guarantee Samsung will get their act together with that model either..)

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My wife loves her Atrix, but she is new to android. I am going to keep my Atrix so long as I don't have any problems with this one. My first one would shut down on its own with 60% battery still.
Someone above mentioned returning theirs because of problems, but seriously I think its a select few with different problems. I dont see many people popping up with the same problem. Obviously do some research before buying it. If you enjoyed flashing roms on your captivate because you liked to tinker with it, then dont get this phone. If you only flashed roms because your phone didnt do what you wanted to, then I'd say give this phone a shot. I love the webtop and the car dock for this thing. The comment that made me want to keep mine was someone in a similar thread saying "2 cores and 1 gig of ram vs 1 core and 512 meg of ram..." eventually the software will be able to bring this thing beyond the captivate, and in the mean time it is running at least as good, if not better, than the captivate.
oh and for all the qHD complaints, I just took my screen protector off and the screen looks better and responds better now. I already have a parts teardown guide for this so hopefully if I need to replace the screen it wont be too difficult.
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i couldn't find a screen protector for mine

I'll chime in again. I said this on the forums for the cappy.
I would rather have a phone that works out of the box and is great than a phone that could have been great out of the box but was broken and required custom roms in order to make it just good.
The atrix has its issues, but compared to a captivate, it is solid and useable. I've given up my iphone 4 and my captivate for this phone and while it took some adjusting to daily routines, I am happy with the choice.
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Coming from an XDAndroid (WinMo phone), to a Dream (G1), then to a Cappy, and finally to the Atrix- I must say I actually really like this device.
The email and calendar is actually really nice. It literally blows the captivate away. I am a business user, so exchange was a big one to me. The craptivate had really bad email and calendar support. The emails were plain text, non formatted, and replies were somewhat lame looking. The Atrix is legit in this field- it has HTML and RichText support. It parses HTML too so the emails come in properly. Very good plus. Also, the Blur sucked in my exchange info the first time and did it properly, which the captivate never did (always had to manually do it).
I went ahead and rooted and deodex'd, sideloading enabled, tether and webtop enabled. The webtop, I must say, is completely OVER RATED! I got it on there and was like, "wow glad I didnt drop $500 for that!". Even with as little support this phone has in the way of Dev (ATM), I must say I am really satisfied. I still have the cap to flash with if I want and I think the G/F is getting an inspire so that should hold off the itch...
The overall performance of the phone is very nice. It's snappy and I havent really found all that many bugs. The one thing I have noticed is occasionally the home screen will look like its in 16bit mode, but a touch of the home button it comes back to normal.

Athailias said:
The AT&T store had a custom fitting screen protector that made the screen look like an old crt monitor. When I replaced my phone I didnt buy another screen protector and the display is pretty nice without it. I cant be sure that its more responsive without the screen protector as i have not put one on this specific phone, but its more responsive than the one I replaced.
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FWIW - One of the Atrix Reviews said the glass on the Atrix is Gorilla glass. If so, then no screen protector would be needed. Check the Corning website on gorilla glass - its is so tough that you can't scratch it with a coin or pen point.

Went from iPhone 4 -> Captivate -> Focus -> Nexus S -> Atrix. Atrix is my favorite so far. Just dont let all the nay sayers on the General Atrix section discourage you, 80% are trolls.

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I will say if you sit the Atrix next to an iPhone 4 it makes the screen on the Atrix look 10 years old. Say what you want to defend that but it's the truth. The qHD screen doesn't even belong in the same league and I am by no means an Apple fanboy.
Although I admit the iPhone 4 screen is much nicer, the added size of the Atrix screen makes up for it in my opinion. I would rather have a SAMOLED over both of them, but I enjoy the Atrix more than my Nexus S and Captivate. I wouldnt call it 10 years old.
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Thats a 10 year old cell phone
The phone was about 80% plastic, although it was very light to carry.
As was the iPhone 3g / 3gs
Now that is just my opinion and I would suggest you go look at one for yourself before making your decision.
Edit: Also there were a lot of small things that I didn't like, design wise. The ear piece speaker looked like it was just stuck on there quickly, wasn't aligned. Same with the camera hole, it was not aligned with the hole on the case, etc. You would never find these "flaws" or whatever you want to call them with a well designed piece of hardware. Overall it felt like a cheap built phone.
Im not sure about this either. my camera lines up perfectly as well as the speaker. While its not the iPhone 4 as far as beauty in build, i would put money on the Atrix being more durable. Its not two slates of glass, and with the gorilla glass its an added plus. On top of that the Digitizer isnt fused to the screen like the iPhone 4, so if you did crack it you dont have to spend $150ish for a new entire front assembly.
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Just IMHO..

Nexus 4 son of iPhone 4

So I was looking at the LG nexus 4 design and I liked it until I saw the back it looks too much like the iPhone 4/4s, I would be ashamed to pull this out of my pocket infront of a crowd. When people see it they are not going to say "hey thats the new nexus" their going to say "look LG copied the iPhone". So many android fans criticised iPhone for easily breaking but when a nexus phone COPIES it then it becomes okay, talking about being biased.
I mean I'm no head of design for apple but it's just an absolute copy if their where lots of phones with glass backs then it would be just another phone with a glass back, but the only phone that has that and has had that for 2 years is the iPhone I just can't understand. I was watching a video made by verge in google hq about the nexus 10, 7 and they said they choose the design to their liking then they obviously are a fan of the iPhone. I like the nexus 4 design but its been taken by another company I want apple to sue LG this is absolutely wrong companies like samsung and LG don't end up in court for no reason.
Another thing I noticed was the camera was underneath the glass panel but the camera flash light had a black ring around it which looked awful. if your going to copy someone atleast do it properly. It just goes to show that this is LG where talking about. I've heard a saying a person who copies another cannot do it better then the original because they intend to also inherit the same mistakes as the original. I've come to conclusion that all the mistakes to iphones made by shattering easily LG just did. I don't care if LG copies but this is a nexus android flagship, it is this device which will be compared to the iPhone /4s/5. How do you feel about the design I think they should have gone for the same back casing as nexus 10.
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I'm all for public appearances, but don't you think that not getting a phone because of what "people will think" when you pull it out of your pocket is a bit... well, selling what the device is a little short?
If you don't like the design, that's one thing, but not buying a phone because of what you think other people will think is convoluted to even type. xD I'd just a soon take the opportunity to tell them, "Heck no this isn't an iThing! It's the Nexus 4 and waaaaay better. Check out what Android can do." If even by your own admission it's a nice design, why let the fact that an iThing has it degrade it? If anything, it's a time to claim look who did it best!

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So I was looking at the LG nexus 4 design and I liked it until I saw the back it looks too much like the iPhone 4/4s, I would be ashamed to pull this out of my pocket infront of a crowd. When people see it they are not going to say "hey thats the new nexus" their going to say "look LG copied the iPhone". So many android fans criticised iPhone for easily breaking but when a nexus phone COPIES it then it becomes okay, talking about being biased.
I mean I'm no head of design for apple but it's just an absolute copy if their where lots of phones with glass backs then it would be just another phone with a glass back, but the only phone that has that and has had that for 2 years is the iPhone I just can't understand. I was watching a video made by verge in google hq about the nexus 10, 7 and they said they choose the design to their liking then they obviously are a fan of the iPhone. I like the nexus 4 design but its been taken by another company I want apple to sue LG this is absolutely wrong companies like samsung and LG don't end up in court for no reason.
Another thing I noticed was the camera was underneath the glass panel but the camera flash light had a black ring around it which looked awful. if your going to copy someone atleast do it properly. It just goes to show that this is LG where talking about. I've heard a saying a person who copies another cannot do it better then the original because they intend to also inherit the same mistakes as the original. I've come to conclusion that all the mistakes to iphones made by shattering easily LG just did. I don't care if LG copies but this is a nexus android flagship, it is this device which will be compared to the iPhone /4s/5. How do you feel about the design I think they should have gone for the same back casing as nexus 10.
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To say the Nexus 4 looks like a iPhone just because of a glass back is insane. It looks NOTHING like the iPhone. It has a pattern on the glass and it is rounded more than that Brick.

So iPhone users should be ashamed to use the pull down notification in the crowd according to your logic?
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When I said I didn't like the nexus 4 back design it wasn't because I care what people think that was just an example of what it reminds people of. I know that the nexus 4 does'nt look anything like an iPhone but the back does. Yes I know it has some sort of crystals but it still looks like an iPhone because only the iphone has a glass back, if more then the iPhone had a glass back then it would be okay but only the iPhone has a glass back.
Their was no need for the crystal effect that they used, only because without that it really would look like the back panel of an iPhone. Those crystals or what ever they are called are usually used on girly products handbags, jewellery etc I'm not saying men can't have diamonds and crystals on their clothes and products but they do say diamonds are a girl's best friend and they do attract the female audience more. If a girl sees the phone they will say how pretty because believe me it will attract them its true.
Another thing why hasn't anyone criticised it for being easily shattered like the iPhone or slippery. One more thing the nexus 4 does share a lot in common with the iPhone 4 double sided glass,metal or aluminium around it. I know the nexus is more rounded and it is absolutely identical to the galaxy nexus but the back panel is just wrong. One of the comments said that if anyone thinks the nexus 4 looks like the iPhone 4/4s because of the glass back panel are crazy then you are seriously insane for think it doesn't, why could they have not used polycarbonate or aluminium. Believe me because of this design the nexus 4 will probably be ban in some countries by the ITC, Apple already attempted to ban the nexus but dut to it having a battery hump and camera humo they failed but not this time especially with the use of a micro-sim and sealed battery.
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Another thing why hasn't anyone criticised it for being easily shattered like the iPhone or slippery.
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Because we don't have any real REVIEWS and there is no indication that it's any more slippery than other devices? Have you held this device yet?
I don't really know why I am responding... you basically just said you think it's a girly device because of a pattern on the back. Feeling a bit insecure about sequins?

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Another thing why hasn't anyone criticised it for being easily shattered like the iPhone
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Gorilla glass2..... nuff said...

Zaihanzainal said:
Gorilla glass2..... nuff said...
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Meaning it wouldn't shatter just as easy? naaaaaaah glass will break period.
Gorilla Glass is just a brand name hell it might even be worse than some other third party and the glass is just efficient for minor scratches by like your nail not drops

I'm not a spokesperson for gg but if you see my other post about how my phone has been used and abused i think you'll understand why I'm pretty confident in it.... granted it doesn't stand much chance against sand and stuff but I'm pretty confident about it not shattering too easily...
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I want apple to sue LG this is absolutely wrong companies like samsung and LG don't end up in court for no reason.
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You want Apple to sue LG because it also have a phone with glass back? That is pretty ridiculous. Since when am I a consumer who is not allowed to buy any product made of glass unless it has an Apple logo?
Just don't buy the phone if you're ashamed of others seeing you with it. Personally, I do not buy phones to make status or fashion statements, I'm going to be doing more fun stuff on the actual device, it'll probably be in a case anyway.

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IMAGINE STUPID FANBOY OR TROLL PICTURE HERE THAT CLAIMS TO JUST SAY IT ALL!
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Although it's just plain petty to worry about whether some will regard your phone as a replica, it's just downright brain-dead to post these troll/fanboy posts. This is XDA for god's sake. For all things holy and respectable, can you please just cut out these dumb post-pics and just add to the discussion, if there even is one at this point? I mean, aren't you just getting sick of the words troll and fanboy? Personally, I would just as soon throw them into the incinerator and let them die a slow death.

2 separate screen protectors needed for the front and the back... Le sigh...

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Although it's just plain petty to worry about whether some will regard your phone as a replica, it's just downright brain-dead to post these troll/fanboy posts. This is XDA for god's sake. For all things holy and respectable, can you please just cut out these dumb post-pics and just add to the discussion, if there even is one at this point? I mean, aren't you just getting sick of the words troll and fanboy? Personally, I would just as soon throw them into the incinerator and let them die a slow death.
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umadbro?... :silly:

i was kinda hoping for this back

I love that tactile sensation on iPhone 4, now it on best android device. Glass back - this is great!
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noobdeagle said:
i was kinda hoping for this back
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Give me a pink Brony edition with glittered back any days.
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Precisely
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This entire thread is pretty amusing, especially the OP.
I'm not going to argue for or against it looking like an iPhone or whatever.
However, I was under the impression that Apple picked glass for functional reasons and not purely for aesthetics. I believe it allows wireless signals through more easily than most metals and is tougher than most plastics.
So LG may have chosen it for the same reasons?

This phone has the worst build quality ever.

My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.

Pictures?

Venekor said:
My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.
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think you were just very unlucky (or else they were trollin' and kept sending you the same one back lol)
my second one isnt 100% perfect, but for me even a 100% perfect galaxy s4 wouldnt be close to tempting me away from a 99% perfect One.

Venekor said:
My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.
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FYI, the Nexus 4 was made by LG...
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hmm
Venekor said:
My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.
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i think this phone build quality is really great if i'm honest, the Samsungs plastic feel/build quality is a lot worse, perhaps you were just unlucky in the handsets you received out of the box

We have more than few threads discussing imperfections and issues on early batch
HTC subtly admitted it when they delayed the entire launch and specifically mentioned camera and casing as the reason, yes they called it short of supplies but it actually meant they discovered low yields
Anyway all you can do is either wait for the April batches and exchange or start now until u get a perfect one
What is for sure however what you have now is not a proper representation for this device final build quality
keywords: Defect, Warranty
We had the same drama during the One X, defects cleared within 2 months, or took me 2 exchanges, my final one was manufactured in April

Enjoy the GS4 :thumbup:
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Venekor said:
My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.
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in 13 march you said
,,I want plastic, I want a removable battery and a Micro SD. You know the only reason they want to design these features out is cause it saves money, they can charge for cloud storage and they blame a removable battery and Micro SD for helping piracy along. It's all about stopping your choice and the irony of it is, taking these features out probably costs less, is less premium and these "premium" metal and glass materials just means more money for this companies in repairs, especially with a non removable battery.,,
and you didn,t like either htc one camera
,,The camera has a lot of noise, not very sharp either,,
but you still bought HTC ONE, and also changed TWICE...
VERY INTERSTING FACTS

I'm gonna have to refund it and get another phone soon because you only get like a month to change your mind....
The camera I didn't think would be this bad quality, it's like super grainy to the point where if you zoom in slightly, there is no quality what do ever.
The only thing I like is the speakers on the front, though the headphone quality sucks? It's nowhere near as good as my 920 was. The screen is too small also for a 1080 display... I don't see anything super exciting about it.
Just not impressed and the imperfections disappoint me.
Edit: Also why does the phone only charge when it is off?

Pictures of your defects please or don't blame anyone accusing of trolling

Venekor said:
I'm gonna have to refund it and get another phone soon because you only get like a month to change your mind....
The camera I didn't think would be this bad quality, it's like super grainy to the point where if you zoom in slightly, there is no quality what do ever.
The only thing I like is the speakers on the front, though the headphone quality sucks? It's nowhere near as good as my 920 was. The screen is too small also for a 1080 display... I don't see anything super exciting about it.
Just not impressed and the imperfections disappoint me.
Edit: Also why does the phone only charge when it is off?
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are you sure you didn't get one of these?? LOL
http://fenxiao.hdc.cn/product_detail-106.aspx

djbenny1 said:
are you sure you didn't get one of these?? LOL
http://fenxiao.hdc.cn/product_detail-106.aspx
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Venekor said:
I'm gonna have to refund it and get another phone soon because you only get like a month to change your mind....
The camera I didn't think would be this bad quality, it's like super grainy to the point where if you zoom in slightly, there is no quality what do ever.
The only thing I like is the speakers on the front, though the headphone quality sucks? It's nowhere near as good as my 920 was. The screen is too small also for a 1080 display... I don't see anything super exciting about it.
Just not impressed and the imperfections disappoint me.
Edit: Also why does the phone only charge when it is off?
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Yeah you clearly stated you would never own a phone without an SD slot or removable battery. You either changed your mind from a very long winded statement bashing the one or your trolling. And three phones? You have had three defective phones Sent to you?
With a delayed launch and low inventory and the phone just released you have been able to get three phones?
Bull****
Edit. This is obviously a troll thread and should be closed
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Just another f*cking (HTC-)Hater/(Samsung-)Fanboy...
Nothing to note here.
Hater or Fanboy... whatever... IGNORE...
Objective opinion...
Subjective opinion...
There is no perfect phone
There is also no scrapphone (except I(gitt...)Phone) :laugh:
Close this ****

He has had the s2 and s3 lol. I mean yeah everyone has an opinion but this is just bizarre behavior. Maybe Samsung is paying him like twenty dollars or whatever currency he uses to write this.
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Dam trolls!

fernando sor said:
He has had the s2 and s3 lol. I mean yeah everyone has an opinion but this is just bizarre behavior. Maybe Samsung is paying him like twenty dollars or whatever currency he uses to write this.
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Sounds a lot like he just took information from threads where people said they didn't like x feature, combined them all into one massive "I hate this phone" thread, and probably doesn't even own the phone.

I was wondering how he could see dead pixel on 468 PPI
I'm loving my HTC One. What a phone
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it wouldn't be a surprise, its not the first thread of such nature