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So i was reading this blog and bam i finally got slapped with a pretty cool rumor that got me a little excited so i wanted to share because of all the 2.2 questions maybe this will shed some light
http://an.droid-life.com/2010/12/06/samsung-phones-to-get-gingerbread-first/
Rumors are not post worthy.
adrynalyne said:
Rumors are not post worthy.
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Beat me to it. I'd highly doubt we see an official version of 2.3.
scriz said:
Beat me to it. I'd highly doubt we see an official version of 2.3.
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I'm beginning to doubt I'll see 2.2 by the time my two-year contract runs out in 2012..
I heard from this guy that he saw Elvis at a truck stop yesterday. thought I'd let yall know
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Highly doubtful.
Epic just upgraded to 2.2, and Vibrant was scheduled last week but got postponed a week. If we were going to see 2.3 instead, then we'd have to wait months...first Samsung would release to International Galaxy S, then give it to all the carriers who then make modifications.
At this point all the carriers have been working on 2.2 so I doubt they would drop doing their work on this to skip over froyo.
i wouldnt be surpised if we skip all updates straight into 3.0 after all not the first time samsung ****ed us(all galaxy s will get 2.2 SHORTY after release).
At this point, I don't have too much hope for 2.2. I've seen in the past with other devices and OS that VZW skip a release or two because it failed their internal testing or something. I wouldn't be surprise if 2.2 was like that
I'm not worried about updates anymore...
I'm just waiting for my contact to end so u can leave Verizon.
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iTz Nicholas72 said:
I'm not worried about updates anymore...
I'm just waiting for my contact to end so u can leave Verizon.
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Really miss t-mobile.
How about class action suite? ;-)
CNemo7539 said:
How about class action suite? ;-)
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For what? The fact that I miss t-mobile?
iTz Nicholas72 said:
I'm not worried about updates anymore...
I'm just waiting for my contact to end so u can leave Verizon.
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Seems this is becoming a common sentiment. Go figure, right?
It seems as if Verizon is putting all of its eggs in the Motorola basket. They get updates/fixes galore.
I will be furious if the Fascinate goes the way of the Droid Eris (what I JUST upgraded from). Fortunatley, instead of burning an upgrae, I bought off of Craigslist.
maybe we will at least see a 2.3 leak one day!
We're going to get 2.3 eventually.
You guys can't blame Verizon for us not having froyo. If t mobile is so great why don't the vibrant have it? And sprints testing is poopoo, if you read about their new froyo, I don't think anyone is impressed
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Yeah I absolutely love the irony of everyone jumping ship from Verizon when the other devices haven't got Froyo either. When T-Mobile gets Froyo onto the Vibrant we shall see. The Epic is different hardware (different enough that Samsung probably shipped different drivers/RIL). This entire attitude of "verizon sucks" is just laughable at this point.
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No, I really do miss t-mobile and their 4g with gsm.
RacerXFD said:
No, I really do miss t-mobile and their 4g with gsm.
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T-Mo sucks and has the spottiest data coverage of any carrier I have ever used. I can remember driving down the highway, using my Nexus One in the car cradle, and having to wait for Google Maps to load up my current location because the buffered map areas couldn't keep up since the data connection kept going up and down. I could get across the city so quick on the highway that the network could not seemlessly handle me moving across the network so fast. Verizon has been a breath of fresh air compared to T-Mo, and the only thing I miss is the control I had with my Nexus One. That said, the screen on this phone is nice and is really the top of the class. We will get 2.2 soon enough, and with the proper foundation, I would think creating 2.3 ROMs will be an easy prospect.
What's this?
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/09/nexus-one-for-vodafone-receiving-android-2-2-1-update/
I thought that Nexus phone will ALWAYS get update directly from Google?
So, if you buy from T-Mobile, there is a chance you need to wait from T-Mobile as well?
I don't get it.
NOTE: Before people shouting that this should be put specifically to the Nexus One forum. I think this is still valid information for us, who will buy Nexus S just because of the Google experience, like the old Nexus One. Hoping to get first update directly from Google when Google releases any new update. Apparently, that might NOT be the case! Well, hope NOT *finger crossed* ...
I cant speak for the rest of the world but US customers always get their updates directly from Google.
I have a Nexus One right now and have gotten 3 over the air updates directly from Google.
gogol said:
What's this?
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/09/nexus-one-for-vodafone-receiving-android-2-2-1-update/
I thought that Nexus phone will ALWAYS get update directly from Google?
So, if you buy from T-Mobile, there is a chance you need to wait from T-Mobile as well?
I don't get it.
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you can always root the phone and load the stock built from google. But being an android enthusiast i rarely do OTA as you lose root and have to wait, i rather wait for devs to build new roms or optimize the official roms.
Regardless if the Update is pushed from Google or pushed from Samsung it will be the First phone to get it, quite possible along with the N1 so what does it matter?
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Regardless if the Update is pushed from Google or pushed from Samsung it will be the First phone to get it, quite possible along with the N1 so what does it matter?
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It matters with future updates ;-)
tekkitan said:
It matters with future updates ;-)
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Im pretty sure Google can handle the software and OTA's on their own, they did well enough with the N1
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Im pretty sure Google can handle the software and OTA's on their own, they did well enough with the N1
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I didn't say they couldn't. I prefer Google handles them because I am still sitting here with a Fascinate running 2.1
Vodafone had a different build of Android for the phones they directly sold, I believe. No massive changes, but the update process is in their hands for their N1s
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You are correct, they only released FRG83D yesterday!
Why is this on the nexus s forum? There is a nexus one forum you know
JD
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JupiterDroid said:
Why is this on the nexus s forum? There is a nexus one forum you know
JD
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haha I just noticed. Well I hope Google will be putting out the Nexus S updates and not Samsung
Wonder if whatever it does get will be OTA, or via Kies like the GS?
Geez ... This is still a valid question for this Nexus S.
Why?
Because there will be a lot of people using "Pure Google" experience reasoning to decide whether to buy Nexus S or not.
Like me, one of the thing that I like with Nexus S is the direct update from Google.
Then I found that is NOT ALWAYS the case! That Nexus One from Vodafone for example.
So, I asked to this forum, probably someone in the know ...
Probably with this, people will know in the future if their Nexus S must wait Vodafone or T-Mobile or God knows who
See? Happy now?
JupiterDroid said:
Why is this on the nexus s forum? There is a nexus one forum you know
JD
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In the UK, the CarPhoneWarehouse sells unbranded phones and just couples them with with a SIM from whatever provider you've picked, so they shouldn't be subject to carrier interference.
I know I am not the only one... man, when Froyo came out it was OCD.
As far as I know, gingerbread isn't even out yet. Just the sdk.
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I know I am not the only one... man, when Froyo came out it was OCD.
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Naw not really
Pretty sure Google wants to have the Nexus S come out first on the 16th and then OTA the update to us on the 17th or so
Yeah, ask again next Thursday. No reason to believe we'll see it before then.
pfmiller said:
Yeah, ask again next Thursday. No reason to believe we'll see it before then.
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Unless the famous Football has anything to do with it. If I don't see a leak for the nexus by next wednesday, I'd be surprised
I'm pretty wrapped up in senseui 2.0 right now, gingerbread can wait
What's the point of waiting just for the next day to release the ota for n1? There's no real gain in that for google.
I suspect we'll have to wait longer than 1 day.
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What's the point of waiting just for the next day to release the ota for n1? There's no real gain in that for google.
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How about they sell more Nexus S devices because geeks can't wait to get their hands on Gingerbread so they rush out to buy the phone anyways? Surely we all know it's coming to the Nexus S but look at the thread title, people are going nuts for Gingerbread as it is! LOL
Surely they could just do what Apple does and release the update the day before for the older phones but i guess we'll see
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What's the point of waiting just for the next day to release the ota for n1? There's no real gain in that for google.
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There is a good reason to wait.
Now when the SDK is out all the developers can test their apps against the Gingerbread and fix all the bugs and incompatibilities.
What do you think would happen, if goog realeases their 2.3 update and some popular apps don't work anymore? This forum would literally explode with screams like "fix this immediately or else", "I hate google", "gingerbread killed my cat" and so on. Why google would do that to themselves?
Jw but how is doing the dial in update thing different from the check for updates in the settings?
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There is no check for updates in the settings, that's how.
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Jw but how is doing the dial in update thing different from the check for updates in the settings?
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I'm sure he's doing both just in case one yields different results. Supposedly I've heard that the Settings Updater doesn't always check, but caches the answer for an allotted time. Doing a "checkin" actually goes out and pings google (or wherever) and comes back with a result after a few seconds. The Settings app just flat out tells you no.
@Rusty is says there is under the about phone section
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@Rusty is says there is under the about phone section
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No there isn't. That section doesn't 'check' for updates, it tells you the result of the last system check for updates, which is done automatically, or forced through the dialer.
Going to that part of the settings does not force a check.
Damn, beat me too it Clarky
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What's the point of waiting just for the next day to release the ota for n1? There's no real gain in that for google.
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The point would be so that the Nexus S can be marketed as the first phone with Gingerbread.
Yeah they will probably either delay it to just after Dec 16th or release it some time next week. I'm betting on just after though.
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The point would be so that the Nexus S can be marketed as the first phone with Gingerbread.
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True, but its not like they would lose any buyers anyway.
The N1 is only sold as a dev phone. And how many ppl have a N1? compared to SGS or others...
Also, like when they released froyo...many apps didnt work with 2.2 and had to be updated.
There are alot of devs out there with a N1 as a devphone. Giving out 2.3 before the NS release thus giving time for the devs to update their apps before launch would give android better publicity. And happier customers
I dont know if this is an issue with 2.3 though...
(I know the SDK is out)
I was referring to 1 day vs 1 week or more. More seems more appropriate, as you all say.
The only place I'll be "checkin" with is the Development section chef's.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/...pdate-now-rolling-out-across-europe/#comments
kinda sad that a phone thats been out for almost a year is getting gingerbread before the atrix. i think its ATT's fault. they seem to delay OS updates, at least they did for the captivate. both rogers and bell got froyo months before att. maybe ATT wants to make sure all the features it wants disabled are in working like wifi hotspot?
True. Im already regretting buying my Atrix, too late to return it though. But also Motorola was asking for beta testers to sign up to test 2.3.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/...pdate-now-rolling-out-across-europe/#comments
kinda sad that a phone thats been out for almost a year is getting gingerbread before the atrix. i think its ATT's fault. they seem to delay OS updates, at least they did for the captivate. both rogers and bell got froyo months before att. maybe ATT wants to make sure all the features it wants disabled are in working like wifi hotspot?
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Looks like this is for unbranded galaxy s phones though. In the US it takes longer cause the carriers are modding the OS to add all their useless bloatware crappola an it's usually the carrier that pushes the updates not the manufacturer. But hopefully with the update to enable hsupa we get a couple of extra goodies.
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Magic_Bunny said:
True. Im already regretting buying my Atrix, too late to return it though. But also Motorola was asking for beta testers to sign up to test 2.3.
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motorola is getting beta testers for gingerbread? did they put up a sign up like for the update or just announce it?
Motor is asking for beta testers? If so...then GB will be released
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Motorola isnt beta testing 2.3
blaque72 said:
Motorola isnt beta testing 2.3
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+1.
I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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it makes sense that the phone that's been out for a year gets it first....
since google released the 2.3 source code, the company has been doing nothing but preparing an update most likely. motorola however, needed to iron out kinks in their initial 2.2 release before they can consider developing a 2.3 OS, and then allowing carriers to modify it to your liking.
obviously you didn't think about what has to be done to come up with a polished 2.3 update before it can be released as an official OTA update. you really can't fault motorola for this not being out yet. it takes a lot of time, testing, and effort to release a finished product.
Raybond, I agree with everything you said, but its hard to cut Motorola any slack for this when the phone should have come with 2.3 in the first place. On top of that they lock the bootloader so we cant get 2.3 working on our own either....
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Raybond, I agree with everything you said, but its hard to cut Motorola any slack for this when the phone should have come with 2.3 in the first place. On top of that they lock the bootloader so we cant get 2.3 working on our own either....
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well, the problem is that they probably started dev for the atrix's OS before 2.3 was released, so it would have been even more work, and probably would have caused delays in their release of the phone if they had shipped it with 2.3
I know locked bootloader is a massive drag for 3rd party dev, but you really can't fault moto for any decisions they've made with this phone other than that.
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Looks like this is for unbranded galaxy s phones though. In the US it takes longer cause the carriers are modding the OS to add all their useless bloatware crappola an it's usually the carrier that pushes the updates not the manufacturer. But hopefully with the update to enable hsupa we get a couple of extra goodies.
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I guess this is the price we pay for having a subsidized drvice. Unfortunately... although we pay double for it in years of service.
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I guess this is the price we pay for having a subsidized drvice. Unfortunately... although we pay double for it in years of service.
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not really, you are going to be paying a carrier either way just without a contract. the cost of the subsidy doesnt get added to your bill. either this or buy a phone for full price like in europe.
i read that google is going to be releasing ice cream sandwich sometime this summer. maybe motorola is going to skip gingerbread? i wouldnt mind waiting until the end of the year if it means we get 2.4.
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not really, you are going to be paying a carrier either way just without a contract. the cost of the subsidy doesnt get added to your bill. either this or buy a phone for full price like in europe.
i read that google is going to be releasing ice cream sandwich sometime this summer. maybe motorola is going to skip gingerbread? i wouldnt mind waiting until the end of the year if it means we get 2.4.
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You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...
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I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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Yes moto does.
I read it on moto official forum.
And you need to fill a form or something before a date...
I would if my phone wasn't unlocked..
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EDIT:
My fault!!!! Sorry guys!!!
I didn't read the whole post from moto forum. At the end of that post there is an edit, that says it was about the 1.5.7 update we already got! My mistake, my fault, sorry
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You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...
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actually you're not skipping honeycomb....
honeycomb is a totally different series in Android OS, tablet-specific series to be precise (3.0)
So, gingerbread is 2.3, and ICS is 2.4. Also, rumour has it that ICS will have full dual-core support, so it would make logical sense for Moto to not waste any time with 2.3 and go straight for dev in 2.4
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You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...
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ice creme sandwich is a blend features of both gingerbread and honeycomb made specifically for phones. you will not be seeing honeycomb on an android phone backed by google. that one reason google is not releasing honeycomb source yet, they dont want to have honeycomb phones out there.
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So, gingerbread is 2.3, and ICS is 2.4. Also, rumour has it that ICS will have full dual-core support, so it would make logical sense for Moto to not waste any time with 2.3 and go straight for dev in 2.4
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i thought gingerbread is suppost to be optimized for dual cores too.
Paschalis said:
Yes moto does.
I read it on moto official forum.
And you need to fill a form or something before a date...
I would if my phone wasn't unlocked..
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link please?
neotekz said:
ice creme sandwich is a blend features of both gingerbread and honeycomb made specifically for phones. you will not be seeing honeycomb on an android phone backed by google. that one reason google is not releasing honeycomb source yet, they dont want to have honeycomb phones out there.
i thought gingerbread is suppost to be optimized for dual cores too.
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i believe that it has some modicum of support for dual core, but is not completely optimized for it as 2.4 will be.
that's just my understanding, if someone could provide a link to prove me wrong then i'd freely accept it.
Gingerbread as currently released for SGS has some glitches but guess what Samsung just released the source code! So we should be seeing fixes and tricked out kernels/ROMS/system apps very soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12992329&posted=1#post12992329
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I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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I saw the signup sheet too. It never hurts to waste a little time each day looking through these forums. I swear I saw a link for it. I looked at it and saw some sign up thingy on Motorola's website.
BGR say new super Nexus coming around Thanksgiving with 4.0 ice cream goodness
i heard of it on another site....heard it was going to be for ATT to launch there 4G campaign
..... cool thanks i Never would've guessed Google would release another nexus device and make it the first to be release with their newest version of android ....
but for real though ... thanks it was done with good intentions
iSaint said:
..... cool thanks i Never would've guessed Google would release another nexus device and make it the first to be release with their newest version of android ....
but for real though ... thanks it was done with good intentions
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Lol
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TecHNieK said:
i heard of it on another site....heard it was going to be for ATT to launch there 4G campaign
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I heard this as well..
i like how there's no link to the article. way to keep it clean
if you dont' know why you're not getting much response, its cause this came out last week
Ice cream sammich: melts in your hands, not in your bottom.
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i like how there's no link to the article. way to keep it clean
if you dont' know why you're not getting much response, its cause this came out last week
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/1...exus-device-possibly-detailed-will-be-4g-lte/
im personally waiting for the next Sprint Nexus with LTE.. I figured our little 4g now isn't going to be upgraded much within the next year and I already dont get it as it is.. Lets just hope that Sprint can figure out that damn GPS problem with the LTE we just signed up with..
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im personally waiting for the next Sprint Nexus with LTE.. I figured our little 4g now isn't going to be upgraded much within the next year and I already dont get it as it is.. Lets just hope that Sprint can figure out that damn GPS problem with the LTE we just signed up with..
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They already did. And its going to be set up as planned
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You think they will release a version for T-mobile or do you suspect they will put both t-mobile's and AT&T's bands on this phone?