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BLUETOOTH PROBLEMS !(for TomTom GPS receiver) HELP ME please

hi guys i'm a newby (this forum is great!)
i'm from Italy
i've a problem for my S100-Jam-Magician smartphone.
The Bluetooth doesn't work...
i tried before to connect a my friend's phone via bluetooth, the magician recognize the phone (i can read the name of the phone in the bluetooth settings) but the communication doesn't work.
i cant't upgrade the phone on clubuimate, (i don't have the time to explain) so i'm here.
now i've bought this GPS receiver (Sirf STAR III) http://www.handnav.co.uk/product_details.php?id=228
and i've installed the tomtom navigator 5 software (it works) with italian Map.
as for the phone The Magician relevate the name of the receiver, but it doesn't work, there are problems and the bluetooth connection go down automatically. (i've tried normal ways e all normal settings combination - port 4 , 5 , but nothing-9
Appears continuosly the message
"Desligue o modo de voo em primeiro lugar!"
i think it's spanish or portoguese, but i don't undestand why, because i have the italian rom. U(maybe because i had installed before another version of tomtom navigator with portoguese map?)
i've read other post about bluetooth but the tools doesnìt work and i haven't founded the .cab file that maybe solve bluetooth problems.
Can you help me ?
i'm in troubles !
SOLUTIONS :
1) some patch to install that resolve bluetooth problems
it should better because the phone works good...
2) upgrade magician ROM
i don't know which is my rom version
during the magician rebooting appear
R 1.05.00 G 1337.39 D 1.06.04 ita
however i think it is old...
with an official (on clubimate) newer version are there bletooth improvings ?
IMPORTANT
a - i'd like a working italian version
b - i have seen the upgrading post for magician and i HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD ANITHING...because i'm not a tecnich or expert...only a normal user ... forgive me
there is a easier and more detailed tutorial?
is there some italian user that can help me?
my msn accont is [email protected]
thankyou

The ?best? bt patch can be found here: O2 MINI NEW BLUETOOTH STOCK.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33532&highlight=magician+stock+bt
Login to be able to download.
Find yourself a rom on the ftp, either shipped-rom (.exe) or image file (.nb1) and give me signal what you've chosen. I'll send you the instructions for the necessary steps.
Cheers, M

Hello!
Before upgrading your Magician, You should test your bt GPS connection with an other little GPS software like cemonitor ( download link--> http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/download.asp?dl=1 )
Try to find your BT GPS com Port normally is com 5. If not I give you a little soft that map the com5 automatically at start. It is "tomtom5patch.exe" that must be on your "\windows\Startup\" folder.
SoftReset your Magician after this install.
In CEmonitor, set the com 5 and look if your GPS communicate.
I forgot to tell you to set the BT GPS on the windows settings, with the correct password. You probably made it before.
Try it and ask again...

nothing to do
the first patch is good but doesn't resolve my problem
that damned write in spanish continues to appaer when i try to make bluetooth work and bluetooth shut down.
the second patch doesn't work, when
i think i have installed a wrong or damnaged software on the PDA in the past that has ruined something...
THANK YOU for the helping,
now i'll try to install a new rom with your help.
have you got any suggestion for the rom to install?
do they work all fine, even in italy? wìhich is the best one in your opinion?
is there the risk to damnage the magician?

There's a 1.12ITA shipped-rom on the ftp under magacian. This is the safest upgrade.
- make a backup of every piece of data you want to keep, especially contacts, calendar, tasks. Everything will be lost & programs need to be reibstalled
- synchronize with outlook via Act.Sync
- Download the ITA1.12 shipped-rom
- execute the downloaded file
- follow instructions on your PC & watch the progress on the magician as well
- when finished, you'll be asked to hard-reset
- hard-reset & enjoy the upgraded magician
- synchronize the outlook data
- reinstall your programs
That's it.
Regards, M

it seems simple...
now i try

grazie !!
thank you all
now al things work perfectly.

You're welcome.

Hi,that message(desligue o modo de....)compare from a few time on my magician.The rom is the same from 8 month,and the messagge compare from 1 month.The only things that I change are the 2 giga sandisk,and I installed 3 different navigator on my device.I don't think the problem comes from rom(1.12 ita),maybe from sd or other navigator?

Very quick tomtom question?

Just checked my version of tomtom on my xda and it says 5.00??? is this correct i thought 5.00 would'nt work under WM5?
cheers

ferritt said:
Just checked my version of tomtom on my xda and it says 5.00??? is this correct i thought 5.00 would'nt work under WM5?
cheers
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I think It would if you have tomtom gps receiver!

It works with a regular bluetooth gps to. Just need to know howto hexedit a file...

MADJID said:
ferritt said:
Just checked my version of tomtom on my xda and it says 5.00??? is this correct i thought 5.00 would'nt work under WM5?
cheers
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I think It would if you have tomtom gps receiver!
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? So your saying version 5 will work if I have an original tomtom bluetooth receiver?
ok maybe i'm not fully understanding this? If version 5.00 works on WM5 (my xda mini s) which it does why all the fuss about you must upgrade to 5.21 if you have WM5?
the only eason i ask is because my 5.21 version of tomtom stoped working after a while (dont know why),but when i reinstalled i forgot to update, so at the moment mine says version 5.00 and it's working fine with no problems
cheers

For my knowledge I think because it work already once with tomtom 5.21 some necessary files has been already loaded into the storage card & the device therefore when you reinstall TT v 5.00 it work just fine because you already have the com port existing therefore everything was ok.
To my knowledge when I install the TT 5.00 I cant find the com port for the gps then after I install the update version it appear depend on were you set it.
Hope this help clarify :roll:

MADJID said:
For my knowledge I think because it work already once with tomtom 5.21 some necessary files has been already loaded into the storage card & the device therefore when you reinstall TT v 5.00 it work just fine because you already have the com port existing therefore everything was ok.
To my knowledge when I install the TT 5.00 I cant find the com port for the gps then after I install the update version it appear depend on were you set it.
Hope this help clarify :roll:
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i get ya mate. Just waiting to get my new BT receiver so i'll give it a good check to see if it will fully work.
cheers

In need of urgent help!
Right i've finally got a BT receiver so i can now use my xda to replace my old ipaq. Thing is I cant get my bt receiver to work with tomtom. Firstly i cant get the gps control panel to appear in settings/connections. I've done the reg edit then soft reset but stil nothing? I've read all the threads i could find but just cant get it to work. Stupid question but do i need to do the reg edit? Could someone please tell me how they installed and got it to work? please!
I have included pic of what my reg edit looks like.
please help
cheers

that looks correct, then when you go into "connections you should have a new icon "GPS"
one thing to check, if you have another regeditor check the same place in the registry
you may find what you are looking at at the moment has not been saved.
may sound silly but you may be viewing something like cache memory.
which editor are you using? (sorry if you have already said)

i'm using PHM regedit. And that pic was after i saved and exited and soft reset. As you can see the reg edit is still there after reset just no gps icon???
If i'm running tomtom 5.21 would i still need to do the edit?
cheers

tomtom5.21 without reg Editor
hi, I give you my steps that I did and it work for me even in the xda exec .
1 first connect your gps with your pda trough Bluetooth accept serial (thick the box)
Then create an outgoing serial port any (free one in my case com6)
2 after you copied the files of tomtom v5.00 into your storage card, in your ppc do file explore and look for a folder Inside your storage card called 2577 open it, (installing cab) ,first click gps then pimaddin then ttn then wzd install them all to your device.
3 now go to the update file 5.21 click on setup follow the screen the you will get a message saying the previous version……… just click ok .after the installation finish
then voila all should be fine just follow the screen you will be asked to enter your activation code again * (if you dont have email me )then setup tt5 as you like for the gps setting you will find the com6 added,simple for tt gps reciver but If you have a third party gps receiver just use the port that you created earlier (outgoing port com6 in my case) .
it should work no need to edit any registry becouse I havent and is working 100% in my mda vario and xda exec.
hope this help :lol:

cheers mate. managed to get it working. Just have probs with my bt receiver now. very poor signal.
cheers

Tomtom Navigator 5.21 WM5 - No Maps Detected - FIX

Hello,
I have installed TTN5 to my device rom.
Now I have put the "Florida-Map" in the root directory of my mini-sd card.
When I start TomTom it says there's no maps detected.
I have read some other forum about it but no one has found a solution.
Any ideas please ?
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I found the solution for the NO Maps Detected:
Your problem like many others is not your version of TomTom its your versions of the map.
I realise the maps you currently have used to work on your older tomtom version.
Look for complete map sets of the USA. USA Eastern-Map, USA Western-Map...and so on.
DO not ask me or PM me for where to find those files.
Look on file sharing networks or buy them from TomTom
Hope this helps
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TomTom Bluetooth GPS Ports WM5 Working Setup 100% Easy Step By Step !
First of all I would like to say thank you to "thereaperman" from Modaco Frums for this great help ! I took this from him and making it accessible to this forum easily for others to use !
Here are his steps:
STEP 1 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
You do this by copying the CAB files from the CDROM (eg F:\PocketPC) to the K-JAM and launch one by one from there with the explorer of the K-JAM
.
You can install voices the same manner by copying the CAB files to the K-JAM (eg from F:\Voice on the CDROM)
STEP 2 : UPGRADE TO V5.1
EDIT: Please use the tomtom official site to obtain the update here
STEP 3 : ACTIVATE THE GPS CONTROL PANEL
Fire up a registry editor (eg http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/phmregistryeditor.shtml )
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MASCHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings.
STEP 4 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In BT, select the OUTGOING port to 6.
3. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 0 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 0 free. Select COM 0 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM 6 (before we set it up at 0).
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 0.
7. Back again to GPS control panel and select NONE.
8. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
FOR THE Wizard or IF NOT WORKING ON YOUR DEVICE TRY:
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to WHATEVER NUMBER IS AVAILABLE EXCEPT 6.
7. Back again to GPS control panel and select NONE.
8. Finally start TT5 and
CHANGE GPS BT PORT SETTINGS TO WHATEVER NUMBER YOU CHOSE IN STEP 6
it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
Hope this helps all of you !!!

1. Create a txt file on your pc called Currentmap.txt
2. In txt file write "\xxxx-xxx\yyyyyyy"
xxxx-xx = name of your sd card as shown in file explore
yyyyyy = name of you current map file as shown in file explorer
3. Save the txt file
4. rename the txt file to Currentmap.dat
5. On you Wizard create a folder in your My Documents folder called TomTom
6. Copy the Currentmap.dat file into this directory
7. Start TTN and hopefully it will see the map

THank you,
But didn't work for my situation. I even tried to take the CureentMap.dat file from my instalation from my JAM but that didn't do it either !
Any other suggestions please ?
This seems to be a problem on multiple forums that no-one has figured out yet.

Same problem, here. I got an older map which I used on my Treo 650 which doesn't seem to work with WM5 version. I presume these maps are interchangeable since it's strictly data. Put California-map in the root directory and has the same issue as the OP's.
I've read from another forum that old maps (5.0?) do not work with 5.21. Is that the case? Appreciated if someone can confirm so I don't have to waste my time playing w/ this.

here is how I did it:
On your desktop, launch Notepad.
Type & \Storage Card\New-England_and_Mid-Atlantic-Map\ or whatever the name of your main map folder is on your mini-SD card. Do not forget to add the final backslash and a have a space between the ampersand and the first backslash.
Save the file as CurrentMap.dat. Make sure it doesn't end up as CurrentMap.dat.txt!
Put the file in My Documents/TomTOm on your device.
Worked for me with my Benelux Map.

canada and USA maps doesn't work with tomtom 5. You can make it work using bakonl version 5.1 but not higher

As far as I know 5.21 only works with the plus maps.

I had a WM2003 PDA and had TT V5 on it.
I now have a new device with WM2005 OS and I installed TT V5. TT Worked (including finding maps) but could not see the BT GPS.
I upgraded to TT V5.21 and it worked. It sees all the European Maps.
However to install TT V5 I had to do it manually because the install did not like connecting to the device using Activesync. I did it by creating the required directories on the Phone manually, extracting TTN.cab on the PC, renaming the extracted files and manually copying them to the Phone. The TT V5.21 installed the upgrade OK over Activesync.
If anyone wants the full instructions on how I did it I will post them.

Please provide instructions!

OK - Heres what I did - please note that this is the exact process I followed (twice) and it worked for me. If it doesn't work for you I'm not sure what you can do. But I used TT V5 and the UK/France/Italy/European Maps that came with it.
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step 1 : INSTALL TOMTOM5 Manually
On the PC, Extract the files from within the cab ttn, (its in the PocketPC directory of the install CD.)
Rename 000file0.001 to dat.chk
Rename 000file1.002 to TomTom Navigator.exe
Rename 000file2.003 to CurrentMap.dat
Create a folder in on the device in 'my device-> Program files->' and call it Navigator - place data.chk and TomTom Navigator.exe in here.
Create another folder in 'my docs' called tomtom and place remaining file CurrentMap.dat in here.
For voices I only installed a 'celebrity voice' so I put the files for it in a directory I created called 'voices' in 'my device'.
If you have them OK, if not you will have to get them from a previous install - or create your own.
Now copy the Map Directory of your choice from your TT CD to your Storage Card.
step 2 : SETUP GPS DEVICE
1. Pair your device with your GPS BT unit and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In the COM PORTS setting for the BT, select 'New Outgoing Port' and for the BT GPS unit set it to 7
Now launch TT and hopefully it will start and go through the install process. When you get to the point where it asks you to select the GPS device - select 'Another bluetooth GPS', and you will be asked to select the Port. If you see COM 7 free - select it. (If not - mine didn't -, select another port to get through the startup, but when TT starts it will report no GPS device found.)
If you did not see COM 7 when you ran TT5, then the chances are you need to upgrade to V5.21 and once upgraded start TT and go to 'Change preferences' - 'GPS Status' and configure the GPS unit again when COM 7 should appear (mine did).
The upgrade also added a standard voice which was not there before.
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Good Luck

optical said:
I've read from another forum that old maps (5.0?) do not work with 5.21. Is that the case? Appreciated if someone can confirm so I don't have to waste my time playing w/ this.
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On my iPAQ i origionally loaded TTN v3 with all the associated maps. When TomTom announced the upgrade to TTN v5 i took the oppertunity (All the maps of western europe for £60 seemed to be a bargain). After updating to version 5.0 I have been using it ever since. A few months ago i updated it to v5.21, (essentially its a pair of cab files that do all the upgrading to 5.21) this only updates the software, and does not alter the maps in any way.
TomTom nav v5 maps are all similar, the plus maps just contain newer information (like newly built roads). What TTN5 will not do is read the maps from earlier versions of TTN, like v3 or v2 maps.

any more ideas? Played around with this for long time and can't still get it to load the NA map. Keep getting that "Maps not found' error when I start the program.

NA map?
I assume thats North America.
Have you tried any others?

No. I figure it should not make any difference and I only have the USA map. I am very frustrated at this as GPS is a big function I need on my MDA.
Would manual install help in my situation?
My install was very straight forward. This is what I did on my install, perhaps someone can point out on what I did wrong
1. Just ran the TTN 5.21 and installed the TomTom and Navigator both on minSD.
2. copied my California-map folder into Storage Card\California-map\ directory
3. Modified the currentmap.dat file to say "& \Storage Card\Californai-Map\
4. Ran the damn TTN and got that maps not found error.
What am I doing wrong? Please help.

It sounds like you have done all the right things, but the only other thing I can suggest is that your TTN software has not been activated to accept all maps. There is a patch you can use which "opens" your software to use all maps.
PM me for more info

Re: Tomtom Navigator 5.21 WM5 - No Maps Detected
magnusbaron said:
Hello,
I have installed TTN5 to my device rom.
Now I have put the "Florida-Map" in the root directory of my mini-sd card.
When I start TomTom it says there's no maps detected.
I have read some other forum about it but no one has found a solution.
Any ideas please ?
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I have noticed this too (with 5.21 only) . What worked for me was to put another map (besides the not-detected one) on the device. THEN both will be detected. I believe this is an activation issue somewhere in the s/w.

Koksie said:
here is how I did it:
On your desktop, launch Notepad.
Type & \Storage Card\New-England_and_Mid-Atlantic-Map\ or whatever the name of your main map folder is on your mini-SD card. Do not forget to add the final backslash and a have a space between the ampersand and the first backslash.
Save the file as CurrentMap.dat. Make sure it doesn't end up as CurrentMap.dat.txt!
Put the file in My Documents/TomTOm on your device.
Worked for me with my Benelux Map.
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I have just installed TomTom and was getting the map not found error, performed the procedure above, but it didnt work first of all, this is what i had to do to get TomTom working and find the maps.
1. Create the folder TomTom under My documents on the phone (note TomTom folder created with capital T's)
2. Create the file Currentmap.dat with the following entry
& \Storage Card\TomTom\Great_Britain-Map
and copied it to the My documents\TomTom folder i created above
3. Copy the Great_Britain-Map directory that is on the storage card\TomTom directory to the ROOT of the storage card...!! THIS is the what made it work.
You may now remove the Great_Britain-Map folder in the TomTom directory on the storage card to save space.
A combination of creating the Currentmap.dat file (even though it points to a folder i have removed!!!!) and copying the map folder to the root of the storage card worked.
Without the currentmap.dat, tomtom would just hang on me and have to perform a soft reset.
I hope this helps, thanks to this thread i managed to get TT working on my wizard, cheers baz

Funny how you can go on about a subject when the answer is alreeady given in the tread. So maybe I wasn't clear enough. I'll explain better now:
Tomtom 5.21 can read all maps provided by tomtom, as long as they are for the version 5
Patched version of tomtom can read v5 maps too, but only if you put two of them at the root of your SD card. It means two maps that are normaly reconised by tomtom 5 (europe and australia mainly). People complaining about not finding a single map are using an illegal version.
The US maps floating around on p2p are v4 maps. They are not valid for tomtom v5. Maybe the latest "whole US in one map" is compatible, but the splitted one, with one folder for each state, is a v4 map.
The legal version of tomtom v5 cannot read v4 maps. If you put one v5 and one v4 map in your SD card, the patched version will not work because it will only find one map at the root.
The only patched version able to see the v4 maps are (to my knowledge) the bakonl version for v5 and v5.10. This version will hang if you use POI in the "plus" version maps available for most european contry. You will have to choose you executable depending on your maps.
All other problems, described in the previous posts, are for the first time setup. They just help getting the program running for the first time.
SO to answer clearly to the first poster: get a patched version 5.10 by backonl, and don't use it with "plus" version maps. If you want to use them, switch to patched 5.21

and apologies for those that contacted me for the file that makes the maps recognised. I checked to see if I still had it, and I have lost it since i reloaded my PC.

Hey I still have the problem.
I have put the Benelux map on my storage card and the Florida map too.
Only the Benelux one gets detected.
this is my CurrentMap.dat that is the My Documents\TomTom folder
& \Storage Card\Benelux-Map\
& \Storage Card\Florida-Map\
I have the Bakonl 5.21 release.
Hope someone can find a solution !
Thanks you

magician with OS 1.12.00 O2 and bluetooth problem

my magician is with this fimware OS 1.12.00 / ExtROM 1.12.920 / Radio 1.12 and i have a GPS bluetooth after sucessfull paring i need to create a New outging virtual com port but when i click on my GPS device for creating a com port on the dropdown menu for selecting com i cant see any com1 com2 com3 etc so the magician automaticaly attach the com0 for my GPS but my igo gps soft dont have a com0 on gps reciver config menu what to do any help thx.

Install Pocket Bluetooth Tools. It can solve your problem.

Need help in installing and run Tomtom 6 on D810 Chinese / HK version

I have the D810 Chinese / HK version and installed the Tomtom 6 but after the installation it cannot read the voice and cannot read any maps
Anyone can show me detailed instructions of how to install and run the Tomtom 6 properly?
Thank you very much.

Try:
Start menu, settings, connections tab, bluetooth, FTP tab, uncheck "Enable Bluetooth Explorer".

why related to bluetooth?
do I need to modify the registry or path in order to make Tomtom 6 able to run and able to use the voice and be able to read the map??

yes, u do need to modify the registry in order for tom tom to read.
go to HKML\system\storagemanager\profiles change all chinese wordings of storage card into 'storage card', save the setting and soft reset.

tomtom actually have map for hong kong???
i never knew
i thought only mapking have maps available in asia