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should i buy the usa tmobile version of the galaxy tab or Acer Aspire TimelineX AS1830T-3505 Notebook? to me they both are around the same price with a bit of a difference here and there but the most noticeable difference is the keyboard. i know i should get the notebook because ill use it mainly to scan my textbooks and put them in pdf so i dont have to carry heavy textbooks and can view them on these light devices but besides that i want a more usage comparability. just want to get some input from those who have used either or and can perhaps help me decide. thanks.
Go to best buy and play with the tab. See if you like it. Best advice I could give
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I am not a specialist, but I own an Eee Pc and a galaxy tab. Now that I have my Tab, I use my Eee Pc much less. Reading is much better on the tab. Also it is nicer to hold in your hands. An laptop is different, so I use it for different tasks. I read Ebooks on my tab, browse the internet, visit these forums, compose small e-mail messages etc. When I really have to write something, I use my Eee Pc. On Holidays I take both with me. My photos are stored on the Eee Pc (it has a 64GB SSD), but I read my mail on the Tab.
Get the Acer 1830T netbook - yep, anything below 12-inches is a netbook for me. You will be able move between documents at a much faster rate than the Tab. Also, don't forget the extra real estate on the 1830T (1366x768) and feature-rich PDF readers.
I am not a Tab-hater, but for OP's needs, a netbook will be a better option.
For your needs i'd get the netbook, i have a high spec laptop and an msi netbook and i only use the tab, unless i really need processing power.
yea i think the galaxy is very "cool" for entertainment not so much for me (college) because im planning to put chapters to pdf/ebook so i dont have to carry so many textbooks plus writing notes is always better with a actual keyboard. damn i kinda wanted the galaxy though because its light and looks cooler but notebook is better for my needs. thanks for the replies.
Donesnt the acer timeline x (all of them) have a really flexy keyboard
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There is a keyboard dock and you can use a bluetooth keypad with the gsm ones
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Galaxy Tab - hands down
the most useful thing i have invested in
It's my browsing device, secondary music player, secondary emergency phone, portable movie/picture dvd/viewer, emergeny camera, e-books, gaming machine (replaced my ipod)
Get one, you won't regret it
olyloh6696 said:
Galaxy Tab - hands down
the most useful thing i have invested in
It's my browsing device, secondary music player, secondary emergency phone, portable movie/picture dvd/viewer, emergeny camera, e-books, gaming machine (replaced my ipod)
Get one, you won't regret it
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i would use it for those very reasons but if only it could be more note taking capable i would have got it on release date.
D200P13 said:
i would use it for those very reasons but if only it could be more note taking capable i would have got it on release date.
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Ade these for any specific reasons? are you a student? i would say yes,the note taking capabilities are good, but a bigger screen could help abit. also a better notes app (quick office, or what ever it is for MS Office) is rubbish! this is where my WM comes in handy
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Ade these for any specific reasons? are you a student? i would say yes,the note taking capabilities are good, but a bigger screen could help abit. also a better notes app (quick office, or what ever it is for MS Office) is rubbish! this is where my WM comes in handy
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what is WM? yes i am a student and about to go get me that notebook unless im convinced otherwise. ive never liked typing on touch screen and unsure how i will use the galaxy as a on the go student getting school things done (ie some sites dont let me in because i am on a android) so this is another reason.
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what is WM? yes i am a student and about to go get me that notebook unless im convinced otherwise. ive never liked typing on touch screen and unsure how i will use the galaxy as a on the go student getting school things done (ie some sites dont let me in because i am on a android) so this is another reason.
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WM =Windows Mobile. it has official MS Office. i suggest yoh can get a data plan to use free internet and acess any site in your college/uni. you can buy an extended keyboard dock for the Tab which is awesome! it is £40
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WM =Windows Mobile. it has official MS Office. i suggest yoh can get a data plan to use free internet and acess any site in your college/uni. you can buy an extended keyboard dock for the Tab which is awesome! it is £40
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yea i think ima just stick to a notebook and get the galaxy when it comes in wifi only because ill get more use out of a notebook (compatibility).
I think you should get the tab and a keyboard for the long typing sessions. CourseSmart is coming out with an Android app soon, but it is very useable in the browser too.
I take my tab to every class. Very handy for classes with small seats. (my 17' laptop doesn't fit on some desks)
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The acer timelines do have the keyboard issue though
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I use my tab for my textbooks in classes and it works great. I use the Dropbox app to store the scanned pdf files of the textbooks and I can access them from anywhere, my Tab, home desktop, and my laptop.
I don't type very well, physical keyboard or onscreen, so I still take notes the old fashioned way, paper and pencil. I do scan my notes into the tab using an app called CamScanner.
I also use an app called Class Buddy for class scedules and assignment organization. So far the tab is working out great for my school related needs. I wish I would have had it when I first started. Lugging around my laptop got old really fast.
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i would use it for those very reasons but if only it could be more note taking capable i would have got it on release date.
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You can take notes very easily using a stylus! I forgot the name of the app but its on the market.
I just picked up a Tab on eBay for $469, bought a pre-paid data SIM from the TMO store for when I need/want mobile connection without wifi (which I expect to be rare). After <1 day with the Tab, I've already decided my EEEPC900 is going on eBay. No one in the family uses it.
Have 3 15" notebooks and 2 Vibrants in the house too. Just realized that's 6 screens for 4 people, WTF?!? Five y.o. watches Thomas the Tank Engine videos on YouTube pretty much unassisted on one of the laptops. Haven't taught him to use YouTube on the Vibrants or Tab -YET!
You probably made a decision already but I thought I would give my two cents since I'm a college student as well. I do not carry around any textbooks; I haven't for a couple years. I find PDF versions of my textbooks or I make them by scanning them. I have all my textbooks on my tab and it works great. Yes sometimes 7" is too small but its manageable. I bought one of those cases that fold into a stand and I just prop up the device on my device and do my work. When I'm doing math I have my textbook open on the tab and my notebook to write and do my problems. When I'm in chem class taking notes I use a paper notebook. If those Bluetooth styluses came out I would have bought one; I think it would have worked very well. Multitasking is limited of course and I wish there was a faster way to switch between apps. I saw the new version of iOS4 which incorporated gestures for switching apps. That's something I desperately need! I've tried different app switchers but its not the same. I use my tab as my primary phones/notebook. Sure it pisses me off when it doesn't act right but that's technology for ya. I have learned to touch type in landscape mode using Smart Keyboard so its easy for me to take notes on my tab when I have write something (like in political science) and use conventional pen & paper when I'm drawing mechanisms in chem. I passed on a netbook because it was just too big and it ran windows (didn't wanna take the time to make it into a hackintosh). With capable PDF readers like ezPDF it makes reading textbooks great. I have connected a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard (Apple trackpad) to it and it works great. Almost feels like a netbook, especially when surfing the internet. I'm in the market for a cheap mini Bluetooth mouse, I might pass on the keyboard since I mentioned I can touch type prettying quickly. Ultimately, the decision is yours but for me, I said no to a netbook for college.
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Hi,
I am a writer and I need a tablet for writing. I am looking for a moderately light weighted device on which I can use word/word like app to read, write, edit, open ms office docs ( with the slightest of changes possible)
I am not sure whether I should go for ipad or Transformer- In pages ( ipad) they provide a lot of features similar to word and you need to compromise on footnotes etc. Also I guess some slight inconveniences in import/export
Transformer - Polaris can open ms word files and edit
so am a bit confused which one to buy ...looking forward to suggestions
The answer you're pretty much going to get here will be the TF. But that's not without good reason. Both are useful, but with the developer support here and the open environment of Android, you really can't go wrong with the TF.
plus the keyboard doc makes it so much more useful for writing with.
For what you describe I would recommend the TF, but this is the TF forum isn't it !
iPad is great for media consumption & there is a lot of developer focus on it right now, so the apps are abundant and very good.
Android on the TF feels like a good start - it is stable, provides a neat way to use the device & app support will grow rapidly.
Using the TF from a h/w perspective you can't go wrong - without the dock it is a good tablet and handles well - with the dock it becomes a good device for production of data, whether in word processing or spreadsheet.
I bought one last week & my wife (a total Luddite) is incredibly happy with it for writing her school reports, doing her home & work email & accessing all sorts of websites (even those with Flash).
iPad users can only do what their gawd Steve allows them to do.
I dropped the ipad plus keyboard in favor of eee pad plus dock.
Typing with ipad is simply not practical because of dull keyboard support, and I'm beeing polite.
Eeepad is close to netbook and probably 90% of laptop usage potential. Keyboard is not perfect but with the mouse on top, it does allow for productive work.
Still, iOS is very very good at reading. Very really.
The other plus plus is usb and file system access.
I'm sure it will come to iOS soon but you never know the odd limitations you'll get.
Eeepad filesystem support is 100% out of the box and more if you root it.
I realized that producing documents requires that soon enough. I thought I could use Ipad + apps but the bottom line is that it didn't really allow the same producivity as Eeepad.
And the cost.....
doe eyes said:
Hi,
I am a writer and I need a tablet for writing. I am looking for a moderately light weighted device on which I can use word/word like app to read, write, edit, open ms office docs ( with the slightest of changes possible)
I am not sure whether I should go for ipad or Transformer- In pages ( ipad) they provide a lot of features similar to word and you need to compromise on footnotes etc. Also I guess some slight inconveniences in import/export
Transformer - Polaris can open ms word files and edit
so am a bit confused which one to buy ...looking forward to suggestions
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My vote goes to the TF!!! With the docking station, you can't go, especially in your field of work!!!
This is exactly why I got the Transformer: I do a good deal of long-form writing, and wanted a platform that would give me a device I can take anywhere without worrying about power, is easy to use in a variety of circumstances, and has a good physical keyboard.
The Transformer works on all accounts. I use Quickoffice Pro HD for writing/editing Word docs, and sync via SugarSync. The only problem with this scenario is that there's a Honeycomb bug that doesn't allow for offline syncing via SugarSync. So, if I know I'll be away from an Internet connection I need to plan ahead re: which documents I take with me. That doesn't happen often, however, and there's always tethering via my phone in a pinch.
The keyboard on the dock is outstanding for pure writing, probably the best I've used on such a small machine. It's a bit smaller than standard, but has a very nice feel and performs well with the tablet (no lag whatsoever anywhere outside of the stock browser, where it doesn't really matter for me). And, the dock/tablet combo is preferable to a standard netbook/notebook in that it lasts for a solid 15-16 hours on a single charge between the dock and tablet batteries, and runs cool. That means I can use it at night in bed without worrying about covering any heat vents or having a flat surface to balance a tablet and separate Bluetooth keyboard.
And, the tablet itself works great for all the standard modern tablet stuff of media consumption, browsing, email, Twitter, etc. Simply put, as a writer, I can't think of a more functional, productive, and fun tool--and certainly, none for $550 total.
Highly recommended.
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If you were to ask this question on an Apple forum, the response would be the exact opposite. Good luck.
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Hi mate,
I own both an ipad and a TF. From a comfort of use point of view for content creation I vote the TF
This is the unfashionable thing to say on this forum but have you considered not using a tablet but getting a netbook instead?
Don't get me wrong - I love tablets and android but if this is a work tool you should ask yourself what feels good to use. You may find that a nimble little netbook with windows offers you more of what you need. lots of people prefer the familiarity of windows for work purposes.
It all just comes down to what your are most comfortable with.
eli.kennedy said:
This is the unfashionable thing to say on this forum but have you considered not using a tablet but getting a netbook instead?
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Which is why the Transformer STILL wins over the iPad. Get the dock and it becomes a Netbook.
Win/Win.
I have a Transformer and a 1 gen iPad. Ever since I got the Transformer.....the iPad collected dust.
I just got an iPad 2, and it is significantly lighter and easier to hold.
the screen quality is also around as good as the transformer's screen, except the low resolution on the ipad is very disappointing.
I've used both versions of the iPad before, and although the ipad 2 is much easier to hold, things tend to stick to the aluminum body of the iPads.
right now, I'm still stuck to the transformer
I'm a writer also and I opted for the TF over the iPad2. I assume that he wants the tablet for reading, and not actually writing on it. The TF is heavier which can make your arms tired if you dont rest it against something which is a pretty big negative. Otherwise the TF wins in every other category imo.
cottinghamm said:
iPad is great for media consumption & there is a lot of developer focus on it right now, so the apps are abundant and very good.
Android on the TF feels like a good start - it is stable, provides a neat way to use the device & app support will grow rapidly.
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This sums it up for me too.
I came from the iPhone as my first smartphone and real mobile device.
After switching to android, with Epic 4G, I was a little disappointed at the lack of apps in comparison. However, this is fixed with time and I like the android approach better.
I can deal with a few bugs here and there and a few force closes because I am comfortable with computers and troubleshooting etc. I am not sure if this is true of the average iPad buyer.
The dock on the TF sealed the deal for me. It is a fantastic mobile device. Long battery life, always on - no boot time, keyboard access, usable touchscreen interface (vs a touch tablet windows os or something), no fans, no heat, no noise. It is a bit different from a netbook.
Although, I also have a full 17" laptop... for real work purposes. For productivity and efficiency, I can't function that well with a small screen, low resolution, small keyboard etc. No idea how people can do it hehe.
For all the little things, that a tiny portable awesome device needs to do, the TF seems to work for me.
Whilst I agree you will get a more 'pro tf 'view on here you will also get a better overview in here than on an apple forum as many tf users have tried both. On an apple forum you may struggle to find anyone who has even heard of a Tf.
I have a tf and my laptop now gathers dust .......
So I was looking for a tablet for me to use as a PDF reader for book and for browsing the web.
The first one that came to mind was the iPad 2 which I know is great at it.
Then I thought of this one, but I remembered reading that because it's shape is a little more rectangular than it feels a bit heavier to hold in portrait mode.
Please comment on this statement
So my actual question is:
How good is this as a browsing / reading device? (how is the amazon kindle app on it?)
Is it worth getting over an iPad 2 as a reading / browsing device?
Thank you
matanc1 said:
So I was looking for a tablet for me to use as a PDF reader for book and for browsing the web.
The first one that came to mind was the iPad 2 which I know is great at it.
Then I thought of this one, but I remembered reading that because it's shape is a little more rectangular than it feels a bit heavier to hold in portrait mode.
Please comment on this statement
So my actual question is:
How good is this as a browsing / reading device? (how is the amazon kindle app on it?)
Is it worth getting over an iPad 2 as a reading / browsing device?
Thank you
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How good is it? That's kind of a personal opinion. I'm enjoying it a lot for browsing and reading. Still searching out the best browser, they all have plus/minuses, but the experience itself is fine. Aldiko reader is good, very readable in both orientations. I find portrait has too much text per screen, doesn't quite give you the 'book' feel, but that's a personal quibble.
I'll always say anything is worth getting over an ipad But I definitely think this is worth it. The form factor just seems to make more sense on the tab, plus I can actually hold it with one hand, which I can't with the ipad (for more than a couple minutes anyway).
If you're really just looking for basic reading/surfing, you could consider something like the nook color, just as a though. But I'm really enjoying my tab, and looking forward to seeing what the dev's here can get out of it!
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I have a kindle for reading, and nothing comes close to it for every day reading, especially sunlight and ease of viewing, battery life, etc. If you want an eReader, get a kindle, lol. If you want a multimedia device that does apps, videos, music, and videos... then a Galaxy tab is the way to go.
iPad is designed for 5 year old or a 95 year old to pick up and figure out. That's great, but the downside is with that comes a dumbed down OS in line with that. People like android because if they want to change the way the icons are laid out on the screen they can.
Check out Google Books and Kindle for Android Tablet, both are great options for someone wanting to use the tablet as a book. However, nothing is going to compare to the pure reading experience of a Kindle....
... but a Galaxy tab is waaaay more fun.
And PS - iPad sux... u can't even view flash, lol... how you going to browse the web without flash? Might as well go back to dialup internet and a VCR. hah
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I have a kindle for reading, and nothing comes close to it for every day reading, especially sunlight and ease of viewing, battery life, etc. If you want an eReader, get a kindle, lol. If you want a multimedia device that does apps, videos, music, and videos... then a Galaxy tab is the way to go.
iPad is designed for 5 year old or a 95 year old to pick up and figure out. That's great, but the downside is with that comes a dumbed down OS in line with that. People like android because if they want to change the way the icons are laid out on the screen they can.
Check out Google Books and Kindle for Android Tablet, both are great options for someone wanting to use the tablet as a book. However, nothing is going to compare to the pure reading experience of a Kindle....
... but a Galaxy tab is waaaay more fun.
And PS - iPad sux... u can't even view flash, lol... how you going to browse the web without flash? Might as well go back to dialup internet and a VCR. hah
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The flash is the main reason why I'm asking.
But again, I'm looking mainly for PDF files which I want to read(which I've found from using eReaders that they have a problem displaying PDFs with pictures) and for browing (which I think both the android and the iPad will do fine except that the iPad doesn't have flash).
But once again, no one really answered my question about reading on it:
I want to know if it'll be uncomfortable reading on it (if my hand will start hurting after 10 min of holding it).
Another thing, does it get warm?
matanc1 said:
The flash is the main reason why I'm asking.
But again, I'm looking mainly for PDF files which I want to read(which I've found from using eReaders that they have a problem displaying PDFs with pictures) and for browing (which I think both the android and the iPad will do fine except that the iPad doesn't have flash).
But once again, no one really answered my question about reading on it:
I want to know if it'll be uncomfortable reading on it (if my hand will start hurting after 10 min of holding it).
Another thing, does it get warm?
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Regarding PDF, you can install native Adobe Acrobat Reader on Android, so you can actually read (and edit even) as indented... so not sure what the remaining concern is. Seems like you're trying to come up with excuses not to get it. Yeah eReaders have issues with PDF, but eReaders don't have Adobe's Acrobat PDF Reader installed, hehe.
Regarding comfort, that's not really a question someone can answer. Many people say getting tattoos aren't uncomfortable, but many would disagree. I think if it hurts to hold a 1 pound object, then you'll have to stick to books under about 300 pages anyhow, so it's somewhat a moot point, hehe.
You can always try, and if you don't like, return or sell online. It's not really something someone can answer for you, since it's a personal issue that varries from person to person. My Kindle weighs about 1.8th of a pound and it is still uncomfortable to hold for extended periods... so I just hold it on the desk or airline tray table, or whatever... it's not a big deal.... with any device.
No it does not get warm.
I reviewed a bunch of reader apps on the GT10.1. I looked at FBReader, Moon+ reader, Nook, Kindle, Google Books, Alkido and a couple of others.
My favorite is Nook. I base that on:
1) integrated shopping experience. Some of the other readers, like FBReader, and I think Moon+ required to you download a book somehow, then put it on your SD card, etc. Or the shopping experience sucked. Kindle/google/nook all had a good in-app shopping experience
2) The page turn. This might not be your highest priority, but I found the page turn experience to be very important to me. Google books and Nook both have a 3d page turn that I liked. nooks is slightly better because it reacts in a more realistic way.
3) Notes/highlighting/bookmarks. Nook wins out over google books.
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Regarding PDF, you can install native Adobe Acrobat Reader on Android, so you can actually read (and edit even) as indented... so not sure what the remaining concern is. Seems like you're trying to come up with excuses not to get it. Yeah eReaders have issues with PDF, but eReaders don't have Adobe's Acrobat PDF Reader installed, hehe.
Regarding comfort, that's not really a question someone can answer. Many people say getting tattoos aren't uncomfortable, but many would disagree. I think if it hurts to hold a 1 pound object, then you'll have to stick to books under about 300 pages anyhow, so it's somewhat a moot point, hehe.
You can always try, and if you don't like, return or sell online. It's not really something someone can answer for you, since it's a personal issue that varries from person to person. My Kindle weighs about 1.8th of a pound and it is still uncomfortable to hold for extended periods... so I just hold it on the desk or airline tray table, or whatever... it's not a big deal.... with any device.
No it does not get warm.
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Thing is, I don't live in the U.S. I can't buy it and return it.
So I can either go with the iPad 2 or the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
The software isn't an issue (there are tons of PDF reading / editing apps on the market). I'm just asking for someone to compare it to the iPad 2 from the design point of view (mostly putting the focus on holding it for an extended period of time).
In other words:
Does it do a better job of reading / browsing than the iPad 2 (in the non software sense)
matanc1 said:
Does it do a better job of reading / browsing than the iPad 2 (in the non software sense)
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Browsing I think will be a little better on the 10.1 based on the Flash issue. I haven't used an ipad for internet browsing but I would imagine that would get a little annoying.
Reading is six in one hand half dozen in the other. I think the aspect ratio of the ipad was designed with reading in portrait orientation in mind. That being said, you should be able to read text larger on the screen (in portrait orientation) before having to scroll left and right to see the beginning and end of the lines respectively. That's not to say that this is a major issue on the 10.1, but if your eyes require larger text it may be a problem.
Both the iPad2 and 10.1 are incredibly thin, light devices. I don't really think holding one over the other will cause significant arm strain. you could go into a store and try holding each for 10 minutes. Considering you're willing to drop $500 on something, you should definitely be sure.
Tab is lighter, and IMHO, more comfortable to hold than the iPad2 (a few of my co-workers have iPad's)
The screen resolution is higher on the Tab, it is easier on my eyes (your eyes might react differently), and my co-workers agree for the most part.
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Tab is lighter, and IMHO, more comfortable to hold than the iPad2 (a few of my co-workers have iPad's)
The screen resolution is higher on the Tab, it is easier on my eyes (your eyes might react differently), and my co-workers agree for the most part.
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So the galaxy screen's width being smaller would be a problem if I wanted to read on it in book like font sizes without having to scroll to the sides all the time?
One more thing: Is it hard reading in landscape mode then?
Do the kindle / nook readers have that option?
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So the galaxy screen's width being smaller would be a problem if I wanted to read on it in book like font sizes without having to scroll to the sides all the time?
One more thing: Is it hard reading in landscape mode then?
Do the kindle / nook readers have that option?
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Just looking at one of the default books that comes on it, it looked fine portrait orientation. The text displayed larger than typically print text without having to scroll left and right. Like I said though, its worth a hands on test for yourself.
I'm sure kindle and nook have landscape options, especially on a tablet. I've been reading a technical text book (with exercises to follow along with) in landscape mode for the most part, however, I'm using whatever is the default pdf reader.
nook works in landscape mode, as does aldiko. I've been reading on it the past couple nights in both orientations and it's fine.
The resolution definitely makes a difference reading - on the ipad, text at my preferred size always looked slightly blurry, just enough to be annoying.
matanc1 said:
So the galaxy screen's width being smaller would be a problem if I wanted to read on it in book like font sizes without having to scroll to the sides all the time?
One more thing: Is it hard reading in landscape mode then?
Do the kindle / nook readers have that option?
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Nope you don't need to scroll left/right in portrait mode, it scales the text to fit the screen width.
No issues using Google Books or Kindle app in landscape or portrait - I do prefer portrait for reading, but landscape for browsing.
matanc1 said:
Thing is, I don't live in the U.S. I can't buy it and return it.
So I can either go with the iPad 2 or the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
The software isn't an issue (there are tons of PDF reading / editing apps on the market). I'm just asking for someone to compare it to the iPad 2 from the design point of view (mostly putting the focus on holding it for an extended period of time).
In other words:
Does it do a better job of reading / browsing than the iPad 2 (in the non software sense)
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I've always been down the middle. I suppose I can give honest feedback as I owned iPad 1, and got rid of it because it was too heavy and cumbersome to hold, then I got iPad 2 because in order for iPad 1 to be useful I had to jailbreak it, then on iPad 2 there's no jailbreak available (yet). even so, the screen quality on iPad 2 is so bad... so grainy, you can see every pixel. Then I got the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and it's neat being able to customize, widgets, flash etc. Where it falls short is media.... it's a pain in the ass a) finding a media file that will actually play without having to convert 10x, and b) managing a sync between device and computer... so for me that's where iPad wins... their sync management is just great.
But at the end of the day, Galaxy tab wins by a decent margin because it's open... I can put my icons where I want, customize the hell out of it, and don't have to live within the confines of "take it or leave it" when it comes to the way I use it. It's just so nice to be able to go away for the weekend and just take a tablet knowing it'll handle any website I can throw at it. Ipad I couldn't even use some travel websites because of the flash issue.... that and their multitasking was a joke.
I use tthe GT10.1 and the nook app, I have not tried the ipad but reading on the tab is great in either orientation. With the nook app you can adjust font size easily so should be fine for any age of eyes in any orientation.
Good luck
Has anyone tried to use the Note to replace a phone, tablet and laptop? If so how successful was it and was there anything you could not do such as printing?
It can't replace a laptop but it can do quite a bit including printing.
I'd be able to do many things with the Note if I had to if my laptop broke. But for everyday use - no way. Playing games, reading stuff, browsing, media etc. - yes. Writing an official letter several pages long comfortably- no.
Basically, no it can't replace a laptop but it'll replace a phone and tablet quite easily (in fact, tablets will seem excessively bulky after you get used to the Note). Perhaps in a few months/years when developers actually make good software for Android that rivals that of Apple's App Store, it could replace a laptop, but until then it won't.
It's quite capable hardware-wise of replacing all three but its missing the software component of it - the software available on the Market and preinstalled just isn't taking full advantage of the phone's capabilities. It's sad, really. Hopefully this will change with ICS and the release of the Pen SDK.
Depends on what you use your laptop for. If its just browsing the web and some multimedia stuff then maybe. If its things like word processing then probably no.
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Has anyone tried to use the Note to replace a phone, tablet and laptop? If so how successful was it and was there anything you could not do such as printing?
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Has anyone tried to use the Note to replace a phone, tablet and laptop? If so how successful was it and was there anything you could not do such as printing?
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It will never replace a Laptop/Notebook. At least NOT in the next 5-10 years to say a minimum. Before everyone starts shooting at me... Why? I will try to explain my opinion in a simple manner:
A Desktop/Tower PC: You have a keyboard and a screen but its not portable.
Laptop/Notebook(13"-18.4"): You have a screen and a keyboard and it's portable.
Netbooks(10"-13"): You again got have a screen and a keyboard and it's portable but the small screen is not very comfortable to use. Subjective so NO bushing please. For me it's not, but I agree those tiny things are very portable.
Tablet(7"-10.1"): Good performance, NO hardware keyboard on most, virtual typing on flat surface or even in a angle NOT very comfortable for long typings and (usually)half the screen is GONE also and it's NOT even near to a Laptop/Notebook/Netbook's usage comfortability.
For everyone else that does not require often writing or specific tasks, it's near perfect.
Tablet(7"-10.1") with keyboard dock: Android might be good, but is NOWHERE near or close to Windows or OCX or Linux as every day usage for almost everything.
And also to be honest here. A Tablet with a keyboard dock? Then the main difference with the Netbooks, is the Operating system. Think about it.
And last but NOT least, Phoneblets: Same performance as Tablets, PERFECT MIX to a phone and a tablet, it CAN indeed replace them, but it will NOT directly replace the Tablets(might replace it for some that are satisfied with 5.3", like me) or neither any above categories for the above aforementioned reasons.
The main reason is the smaller screen. A 7-10.1" might not be very pocketable, but it's much more easy to work on those screen sizes.
Everything exists in it's own category. Before you ask why, because other people need/want what we DO NOT need or want. E.g: I don't need Tablets, I own a Notebook/Laptop which is a 18.4".
Why that screen size? Because I need/want a 17-18" Laptop/Notebook. Like people need/want a Tablet or a Netbook or a Phoneblet or a economic car, while others don't care and get a 5.0L V8 instead of a 2-3L Hybrid.
In the end? They will give us/make what the Market Demands. That's all there is to it. Market demand and profit. Where's a Market to get into, there's profit. If not, they move on.
P.S: While I love my GNote and I never owned personally a Tablet (had a GTab for 2 weeks), if I had own one, it would have replaced it. Hell, I barely use my Laptop now(fiance does tho ) and mostly I'm on my Desktop and my GNote.
And productivity is going very well also. GNote for social "work" and some quick emails(also some games, funny apps, killing time, oh and calling) and if I need something more "advance" or specific, I just use my PC.
But when I visit friends, I usually take the Laptop/Notebook with me. Even if I love my GNote it cannot replace it as of now. But the future is looking very promising tbh.
Gaugerer said:
Has anyone tried to use the Note to replace a phone, tablet and laptop? If so how successful was it and was there anything you could not do such as printing?
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The obvious answer is, of course, what do you do?
The biggest difference between a laptop and a smartphone is the operating system. Only being able to have one app open at once is a dealbreaker as far as productivity goes. And that's just one difference.
People bring up mouse/keyboard but you can use a bluetooth keyboard/mouse with the Note. So that's irrelevant.
Highly dense text/apps would be much easier on the eyes with a tablet. I've already hit a few games that had just unbearably small text. The new amazon store has quite small text, but still readable.
As a phone - no question it works, unless you tend to use pockets that would be too small to hold the note. ( The note is far more pocketable than people think though ).
- Frank
I have found very little use for my laptop since I bought the Note.
My main machine is a desktop with 2x 24" monitors, so that's where my design work happens. Anything else is a satellite to my desktop, and the Note replaces both my old Android (Desire HD/Ace) and my laptop for pretty much everything, with the added advantage of having stylus input. Being able to write to USB stick over OTG cable is a big win too.
I used to have a tablet, but a 7" device isn't pocketable so I left it at home all the time. The Note is small enough to pocket but big enough to show clients images, layouts, videos, Flash, and to annotate effectively, especially with the laptop-level resolution.
I haven't received my Note yet. I get it next Wednesday.
But as a Dell Streak, HP TouchPad, and Macbook Pro owner my usage ranking is; Macbook Pro, Dell Streak, then TouchPad.
I like the larger tablet with some activities, but as an all around tablet I take the smaller 5" Streak every time. The Note will do everything my Streak does but better.
Soon, I'll just be a Macbook Pro and Note owner. I think that's my ideal form factors... and there is a specific void they both fill well.
Gaugerer said:
Has anyone tried to use the Note to replace a phone, tablet and laptop?
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replacing laptop? what have you been smoking son?
There are many "levels" of laptops. From netbooks to workstations. You have to be more specific. I mean do you think the Gnote can replace my W520 that I use to run adobe software while driving three external monitors?
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replacing laptop? what have you been smoking son?
There are many "levels" of laptops. From netbooks to workstations. You have to be more specific. I mean do you think the Gnote can replace my W520 that I use to run adobe software while driving three external monitors?
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For those that use the Laptops just for surfing the net, occasional e-mailing, some text writing and in general very, very basic stuff, then yes, it possible to replace them.
But then again laptops for the mentioned usage(performance wise) are much cheaper than the Note.
for me it easily replace phone (htc hd2 runnig android) and tablet (galaxy tab 7" still prefer tab over note over ebook while i have both under my hand) but laptop i dont think so as koniakki said if you only surf, email, office it may replace laptop for you at some situations but generally it cant replace laptop.
let's have some more inputs on this from note/note 2 users.....
can it really replace a laptop...?
for someone who is mostly uses the laptop for surfing the web, listening to music, watching videos reading ebooks/pdf and travels often carrying the laptop around, Can the note/note 2 be considered a laptop replacement device....?!?
No it can't replace laptop completely. I use btooth keyboard and mouse and it almost replaces laptop until when I need to do serious photo editing or work on a complex excel sheet or compile few c# codes. These exceptions are once in a blue moon stuff and hence I wouldn't feel comfortable to give up laptop for Note or Android tablets. Windows 8 tablet may finally replace laptop.
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No it can't replace laptop completely. I use btooth keyboard and mouse and it almost replaces laptop until when I need to do serious photo editing or work on a complex excel sheet or compile few c# codes. These exceptions are once in a blue moon stuff and hence I wouldn't feel comfortable to give up laptop for Note or Android tablets. Windows 8 tablet may finally replace laptop.
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Although the Note is an epic device, and can do almost anything, For situations like that ^^ it cannot replace a laptop / pc
I use mine for everything, I do all my emailing / surfing / movie /music watching + streaming on the Note ( Mainly because im too lazy to move to the other side of the room to access the PC lol)
I would imaging for your average user then yes, It can / could replace a laptop, But at some point there will be a moment where you think 'Damn it ! wouldn't this just be easier on my computer?'
I must also add, Im super lazy, I have remote desktop app on my Note so I can access my computer and print files without leaving the sofa, I also have the Viera connect app so I can control my TV when I cannot be bothered to reach over for the remote control lol..... All I need now is for someone to pump my chest every few seconds so I dont have to waste energy breathing :laugh:
I adore my Note. Still it will never replace my PC/laptop. The specific reason for me is productivity. Productivity means MS Office, Digital Audio Workstations, large screen, large and higher precision input devices (mouse, normal size keyboard). Although I have been able to tackle some productivity tasks using the Note - "send me a PDF of the paper document you filed at the registry office", "take a look at this excel and tell me when it can be ready" etc.
Hm, now that I think of it - I often read XDA on the Note but have written only 1 post from the Note - I'd really rather do it using a normal keyboard.
well before my htc desire broke down i was planing to buy tablet... and when it broke down i had no choice but to use my money to buy new phone... i had to chose between sony xperia s (i think, cant be sure now) and note... i chose note cos i hoped that it will satisfy my need for tablet...
it didnt.
i end up buying tablet few months later
so NO! it cant replace not even tablet, and definitely not pc/laptop
tatkovladko said:
I adore my Note. Still it will never replace my PC/laptop. The specific reason for me is productivity. Productivity means MS Office, Digital Audio Workstations, large screen, large and higher precision input devices (mouse, normal size keyboard). Although I have been able to tackle some productivity tasks using the Note - "send me a PDF of the paper document you filed at the registry office", "take a look at this excel and tell me when it can be ready" etc.
Hm, now that I think of it - I often read XDA on the Note but have written only 1 post from the Note - I'd really rather do it using a normal keyboard.
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I agree. Note hardly replaces my notebook for the productivity. However, it can be used as a substitute while you travel light. Reading and sending emails, paying bills, communicating, reading news and books, watching movies, listening music, playng games all are possible. Great gadget for me. The best.
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I stopped bothering switching on my laptop long before i got the GNote.
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good evening guys and excuse my bad english .
I am a economic sciences student and i wanted to ask if the Nexus 7 is a tab that i can use for studiying etc. I had the Ipad 3 for several months but i sold it because it sucked.
I nerver had a 7 inch Tab in my hand so i cant realy say if i can use it for all this stuff
braxas said:
good evening guys and excuse my bad english .
I am a economic sciences student and i wanted to ask if the Nexus 7 is a tab that i can use for studiying etc. I had the Ipad 3 for several months but i sold it because it sucked.
I nerver had a 7 inch Tab in my hand so i cant realy say if i can use it for all this stuff
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Coming from education technology, I have seen pluses and minuses.
You are right, being able to hold it comfortably in 1 hand is nice (it is MUCH lighter than an iPad) and I've found the voice recognition for taking voice notes very accurate. However, typing papers is not really practical, but I'm assuming you have a standard computer for that.
The biggest drawback is getting your books in a format that is compatible with the N7/Android. If you can get them (or just scan them) in simple PDF, you are golden, but many of the secure proprietary formats that publishers are using and distributing through college bookstores are not quite there yet in the ability to display them on a tablet---some are using flash, others are using different secure formats (such as CaféScribe) so they can keep the book from being copied and distributed.
The foolproof solution is to take any books you have to Kinkos and have them chop the spine and feed scan to turn them into PDFs (which you can legally do as long as you don't distribute the PDF) for a small fee, which they can do pretty quickly.
Good luck, I love the N7 for reading.
Yeah but i need t o know if i can use the N7 for some more then PDF reading xD. Because 250 € for PDF reading while i can print those PDF's for 20 €is a huge difference
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Yeah but i need t o know if i can use the N7 for some more then PDF reading xD. Because 250 € for PDF reading while i can print those PDF's for 20 €is a huge difference
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Then you probably just answered your own question. Only you know what reading material you need.
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I just think just the N7 for "just" reading is wasted. I would like to use it for some more things but i dont know if i can with that 7 inch Display.
I would like to use a good navigation Software and some other things.
braxas said:
I just think just the N7 for "just" reading is wasted. I would like to use it for some more things but i dont know if i can with that 7 inch Display.
I would like to use a good navigation Software and some other things.
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navigation? how big is your campus? lol
i thought you're asking the use for "studying" (ps: does not spell "studiying" - i hope you're taking econ in a non-english univ), and here are my thoughts: (im an Econ student too)
- reading: it's hit and miss. depend on what you need to read (papers and other docs distributed/recommended by your prof, or generic PDF out in the internet).
- typing: sucks. i dont know about you, but i still write faster than typing. you can try installing Swype or some other app to type faster, but on a 7+ inches monitor, it's still not comfortable. 4~5" on a phone is easy to swype with your thumb. 7"? go landscape and practice.
now, aside from the above points, everything else is good with a Nexus for the following points:
1. it's cheap. $199 for a quad-core device?
2. it's small and light.
3. it has nice apps. Evernotes. Calendar. Emails. Browser. Office products. voice recorders. and they're mostly cheaper (if not free) compared to iPad apps.
4. it's a Tegra3 device with high resolution display. download some games and it's solid for in-between study or during a boring lecture.
Here's how I use my Nexus for studying: as a handy references device. it doesn't replace my notes, textbooks, and the all-important highlighter... but for a quick internet search or reference sources, it's way easier than booting my laptop... and i can schedule my exams, study period, check emails, and check classes on a screen bigger than my phone's.
claymoses said:
The foolproof solution is to take any books you have to Kinkos and have them chop the spine and feed scan to turn them into PDFs (which you can legally do as long as you don't distribute the PDF) for a small fee, which they can do pretty quickly.
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Really? I can't find any information about this service on their website. So..you can give them like a 200 page book (small and large book), and they'll make a PDF of it for you? I want that so badly.
I hate typing on the N7.. I am 3x as fast on my 4 inch phone it just doesn't gel with me.
May not be your experience but no way in could note take.
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Not the navigation for the campus i mean car navigation ^^. I'm using atm Navigon for navigation. My english was better but I haven't used it barely for 1 1/2 years so excuse me .
I need to thank you R3dbeaver because you showed me what you are doing with your N7. We are getting all our PDF files from our prof. so the quality of the PDF file is goood ( writen on PC and this **** ).
I am also someone how writes faster than typing. I think i will buy the N7 and use it exactly like you. A good combination of both things.
I would appreciate if you could recommend me some usefull apps
What they do is remove the spine and run it through a feed scanner, then spiral bind the book. From there they can save it in any format you desire. It's probably not something you're going to see advertised because I imagine it's not something they get asked to do a lot, but they do do it. It sounds like a lot more work than it actually is. I do this for a living for students with print disabilities, but I send students that don't qualify for the service to Kinko's if they want to do their own books.
Good luck, let me know if you have any other queations on getting it done.
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I use the nexus 7 to read my heavy PDF textbooks with diagrams and pictures. Use ebookdroid (awesome app!) to auto crop pages and use landscape mode. Yes a bit extra scrolling but comfortable otherwise.