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should i buy the usa tmobile version of the galaxy tab or Acer Aspire TimelineX AS1830T-3505 Notebook? to me they both are around the same price with a bit of a difference here and there but the most noticeable difference is the keyboard. i know i should get the notebook because ill use it mainly to scan my textbooks and put them in pdf so i dont have to carry heavy textbooks and can view them on these light devices but besides that i want a more usage comparability. just want to get some input from those who have used either or and can perhaps help me decide. thanks.
Go to best buy and play with the tab. See if you like it. Best advice I could give
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I am not a specialist, but I own an Eee Pc and a galaxy tab. Now that I have my Tab, I use my Eee Pc much less. Reading is much better on the tab. Also it is nicer to hold in your hands. An laptop is different, so I use it for different tasks. I read Ebooks on my tab, browse the internet, visit these forums, compose small e-mail messages etc. When I really have to write something, I use my Eee Pc. On Holidays I take both with me. My photos are stored on the Eee Pc (it has a 64GB SSD), but I read my mail on the Tab.
Get the Acer 1830T netbook - yep, anything below 12-inches is a netbook for me. You will be able move between documents at a much faster rate than the Tab. Also, don't forget the extra real estate on the 1830T (1366x768) and feature-rich PDF readers.
I am not a Tab-hater, but for OP's needs, a netbook will be a better option.
For your needs i'd get the netbook, i have a high spec laptop and an msi netbook and i only use the tab, unless i really need processing power.
yea i think the galaxy is very "cool" for entertainment not so much for me (college) because im planning to put chapters to pdf/ebook so i dont have to carry so many textbooks plus writing notes is always better with a actual keyboard. damn i kinda wanted the galaxy though because its light and looks cooler but notebook is better for my needs. thanks for the replies.
Donesnt the acer timeline x (all of them) have a really flexy keyboard
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There is a keyboard dock and you can use a bluetooth keypad with the gsm ones
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Galaxy Tab - hands down
the most useful thing i have invested in
It's my browsing device, secondary music player, secondary emergency phone, portable movie/picture dvd/viewer, emergeny camera, e-books, gaming machine (replaced my ipod)
Get one, you won't regret it
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Galaxy Tab - hands down
the most useful thing i have invested in
It's my browsing device, secondary music player, secondary emergency phone, portable movie/picture dvd/viewer, emergeny camera, e-books, gaming machine (replaced my ipod)
Get one, you won't regret it
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i would use it for those very reasons but if only it could be more note taking capable i would have got it on release date.
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i would use it for those very reasons but if only it could be more note taking capable i would have got it on release date.
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Ade these for any specific reasons? are you a student? i would say yes,the note taking capabilities are good, but a bigger screen could help abit. also a better notes app (quick office, or what ever it is for MS Office) is rubbish! this is where my WM comes in handy
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Ade these for any specific reasons? are you a student? i would say yes,the note taking capabilities are good, but a bigger screen could help abit. also a better notes app (quick office, or what ever it is for MS Office) is rubbish! this is where my WM comes in handy
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what is WM? yes i am a student and about to go get me that notebook unless im convinced otherwise. ive never liked typing on touch screen and unsure how i will use the galaxy as a on the go student getting school things done (ie some sites dont let me in because i am on a android) so this is another reason.
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what is WM? yes i am a student and about to go get me that notebook unless im convinced otherwise. ive never liked typing on touch screen and unsure how i will use the galaxy as a on the go student getting school things done (ie some sites dont let me in because i am on a android) so this is another reason.
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WM =Windows Mobile. it has official MS Office. i suggest yoh can get a data plan to use free internet and acess any site in your college/uni. you can buy an extended keyboard dock for the Tab which is awesome! it is £40
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WM =Windows Mobile. it has official MS Office. i suggest yoh can get a data plan to use free internet and acess any site in your college/uni. you can buy an extended keyboard dock for the Tab which is awesome! it is £40
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yea i think ima just stick to a notebook and get the galaxy when it comes in wifi only because ill get more use out of a notebook (compatibility).
I think you should get the tab and a keyboard for the long typing sessions. CourseSmart is coming out with an Android app soon, but it is very useable in the browser too.
I take my tab to every class. Very handy for classes with small seats. (my 17' laptop doesn't fit on some desks)
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I use my tab for my textbooks in classes and it works great. I use the Dropbox app to store the scanned pdf files of the textbooks and I can access them from anywhere, my Tab, home desktop, and my laptop.
I don't type very well, physical keyboard or onscreen, so I still take notes the old fashioned way, paper and pencil. I do scan my notes into the tab using an app called CamScanner.
I also use an app called Class Buddy for class scedules and assignment organization. So far the tab is working out great for my school related needs. I wish I would have had it when I first started. Lugging around my laptop got old really fast.
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i would use it for those very reasons but if only it could be more note taking capable i would have got it on release date.
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You can take notes very easily using a stylus! I forgot the name of the app but its on the market.
I just picked up a Tab on eBay for $469, bought a pre-paid data SIM from the TMO store for when I need/want mobile connection without wifi (which I expect to be rare). After <1 day with the Tab, I've already decided my EEEPC900 is going on eBay. No one in the family uses it.
Have 3 15" notebooks and 2 Vibrants in the house too. Just realized that's 6 screens for 4 people, WTF?!? Five y.o. watches Thomas the Tank Engine videos on YouTube pretty much unassisted on one of the laptops. Haven't taught him to use YouTube on the Vibrants or Tab -YET!
You probably made a decision already but I thought I would give my two cents since I'm a college student as well. I do not carry around any textbooks; I haven't for a couple years. I find PDF versions of my textbooks or I make them by scanning them. I have all my textbooks on my tab and it works great. Yes sometimes 7" is too small but its manageable. I bought one of those cases that fold into a stand and I just prop up the device on my device and do my work. When I'm doing math I have my textbook open on the tab and my notebook to write and do my problems. When I'm in chem class taking notes I use a paper notebook. If those Bluetooth styluses came out I would have bought one; I think it would have worked very well. Multitasking is limited of course and I wish there was a faster way to switch between apps. I saw the new version of iOS4 which incorporated gestures for switching apps. That's something I desperately need! I've tried different app switchers but its not the same. I use my tab as my primary phones/notebook. Sure it pisses me off when it doesn't act right but that's technology for ya. I have learned to touch type in landscape mode using Smart Keyboard so its easy for me to take notes on my tab when I have write something (like in political science) and use conventional pen & paper when I'm drawing mechanisms in chem. I passed on a netbook because it was just too big and it ran windows (didn't wanna take the time to make it into a hackintosh). With capable PDF readers like ezPDF it makes reading textbooks great. I have connected a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard (Apple trackpad) to it and it works great. Almost feels like a netbook, especially when surfing the internet. I'm in the market for a cheap mini Bluetooth mouse, I might pass on the keyboard since I mentioned I can touch type prettying quickly. Ultimately, the decision is yours but for me, I said no to a netbook for college.
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So I was looking for a tablet for me to use as a PDF reader for book and for browsing the web.
The first one that came to mind was the iPad 2 which I know is great at it.
Then I thought of this one, but I remembered reading that because it's shape is a little more rectangular than it feels a bit heavier to hold in portrait mode.
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So my actual question is:
How good is this as a browsing / reading device? (how is the amazon kindle app on it?)
Is it worth getting over an iPad 2 as a reading / browsing device?
Thank you
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So I was looking for a tablet for me to use as a PDF reader for book and for browsing the web.
The first one that came to mind was the iPad 2 which I know is great at it.
Then I thought of this one, but I remembered reading that because it's shape is a little more rectangular than it feels a bit heavier to hold in portrait mode.
Please comment on this statement
So my actual question is:
How good is this as a browsing / reading device? (how is the amazon kindle app on it?)
Is it worth getting over an iPad 2 as a reading / browsing device?
Thank you
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How good is it? That's kind of a personal opinion. I'm enjoying it a lot for browsing and reading. Still searching out the best browser, they all have plus/minuses, but the experience itself is fine. Aldiko reader is good, very readable in both orientations. I find portrait has too much text per screen, doesn't quite give you the 'book' feel, but that's a personal quibble.
I'll always say anything is worth getting over an ipad But I definitely think this is worth it. The form factor just seems to make more sense on the tab, plus I can actually hold it with one hand, which I can't with the ipad (for more than a couple minutes anyway).
If you're really just looking for basic reading/surfing, you could consider something like the nook color, just as a though. But I'm really enjoying my tab, and looking forward to seeing what the dev's here can get out of it!
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I have a kindle for reading, and nothing comes close to it for every day reading, especially sunlight and ease of viewing, battery life, etc. If you want an eReader, get a kindle, lol. If you want a multimedia device that does apps, videos, music, and videos... then a Galaxy tab is the way to go.
iPad is designed for 5 year old or a 95 year old to pick up and figure out. That's great, but the downside is with that comes a dumbed down OS in line with that. People like android because if they want to change the way the icons are laid out on the screen they can.
Check out Google Books and Kindle for Android Tablet, both are great options for someone wanting to use the tablet as a book. However, nothing is going to compare to the pure reading experience of a Kindle....
... but a Galaxy tab is waaaay more fun.
And PS - iPad sux... u can't even view flash, lol... how you going to browse the web without flash? Might as well go back to dialup internet and a VCR. hah
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I have a kindle for reading, and nothing comes close to it for every day reading, especially sunlight and ease of viewing, battery life, etc. If you want an eReader, get a kindle, lol. If you want a multimedia device that does apps, videos, music, and videos... then a Galaxy tab is the way to go.
iPad is designed for 5 year old or a 95 year old to pick up and figure out. That's great, but the downside is with that comes a dumbed down OS in line with that. People like android because if they want to change the way the icons are laid out on the screen they can.
Check out Google Books and Kindle for Android Tablet, both are great options for someone wanting to use the tablet as a book. However, nothing is going to compare to the pure reading experience of a Kindle....
... but a Galaxy tab is waaaay more fun.
And PS - iPad sux... u can't even view flash, lol... how you going to browse the web without flash? Might as well go back to dialup internet and a VCR. hah
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The flash is the main reason why I'm asking.
But again, I'm looking mainly for PDF files which I want to read(which I've found from using eReaders that they have a problem displaying PDFs with pictures) and for browing (which I think both the android and the iPad will do fine except that the iPad doesn't have flash).
But once again, no one really answered my question about reading on it:
I want to know if it'll be uncomfortable reading on it (if my hand will start hurting after 10 min of holding it).
Another thing, does it get warm?
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The flash is the main reason why I'm asking.
But again, I'm looking mainly for PDF files which I want to read(which I've found from using eReaders that they have a problem displaying PDFs with pictures) and for browing (which I think both the android and the iPad will do fine except that the iPad doesn't have flash).
But once again, no one really answered my question about reading on it:
I want to know if it'll be uncomfortable reading on it (if my hand will start hurting after 10 min of holding it).
Another thing, does it get warm?
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Regarding PDF, you can install native Adobe Acrobat Reader on Android, so you can actually read (and edit even) as indented... so not sure what the remaining concern is. Seems like you're trying to come up with excuses not to get it. Yeah eReaders have issues with PDF, but eReaders don't have Adobe's Acrobat PDF Reader installed, hehe.
Regarding comfort, that's not really a question someone can answer. Many people say getting tattoos aren't uncomfortable, but many would disagree. I think if it hurts to hold a 1 pound object, then you'll have to stick to books under about 300 pages anyhow, so it's somewhat a moot point, hehe.
You can always try, and if you don't like, return or sell online. It's not really something someone can answer for you, since it's a personal issue that varries from person to person. My Kindle weighs about 1.8th of a pound and it is still uncomfortable to hold for extended periods... so I just hold it on the desk or airline tray table, or whatever... it's not a big deal.... with any device.
No it does not get warm.
I reviewed a bunch of reader apps on the GT10.1. I looked at FBReader, Moon+ reader, Nook, Kindle, Google Books, Alkido and a couple of others.
My favorite is Nook. I base that on:
1) integrated shopping experience. Some of the other readers, like FBReader, and I think Moon+ required to you download a book somehow, then put it on your SD card, etc. Or the shopping experience sucked. Kindle/google/nook all had a good in-app shopping experience
2) The page turn. This might not be your highest priority, but I found the page turn experience to be very important to me. Google books and Nook both have a 3d page turn that I liked. nooks is slightly better because it reacts in a more realistic way.
3) Notes/highlighting/bookmarks. Nook wins out over google books.
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Regarding PDF, you can install native Adobe Acrobat Reader on Android, so you can actually read (and edit even) as indented... so not sure what the remaining concern is. Seems like you're trying to come up with excuses not to get it. Yeah eReaders have issues with PDF, but eReaders don't have Adobe's Acrobat PDF Reader installed, hehe.
Regarding comfort, that's not really a question someone can answer. Many people say getting tattoos aren't uncomfortable, but many would disagree. I think if it hurts to hold a 1 pound object, then you'll have to stick to books under about 300 pages anyhow, so it's somewhat a moot point, hehe.
You can always try, and if you don't like, return or sell online. It's not really something someone can answer for you, since it's a personal issue that varries from person to person. My Kindle weighs about 1.8th of a pound and it is still uncomfortable to hold for extended periods... so I just hold it on the desk or airline tray table, or whatever... it's not a big deal.... with any device.
No it does not get warm.
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Thing is, I don't live in the U.S. I can't buy it and return it.
So I can either go with the iPad 2 or the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
The software isn't an issue (there are tons of PDF reading / editing apps on the market). I'm just asking for someone to compare it to the iPad 2 from the design point of view (mostly putting the focus on holding it for an extended period of time).
In other words:
Does it do a better job of reading / browsing than the iPad 2 (in the non software sense)
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Does it do a better job of reading / browsing than the iPad 2 (in the non software sense)
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Browsing I think will be a little better on the 10.1 based on the Flash issue. I haven't used an ipad for internet browsing but I would imagine that would get a little annoying.
Reading is six in one hand half dozen in the other. I think the aspect ratio of the ipad was designed with reading in portrait orientation in mind. That being said, you should be able to read text larger on the screen (in portrait orientation) before having to scroll left and right to see the beginning and end of the lines respectively. That's not to say that this is a major issue on the 10.1, but if your eyes require larger text it may be a problem.
Both the iPad2 and 10.1 are incredibly thin, light devices. I don't really think holding one over the other will cause significant arm strain. you could go into a store and try holding each for 10 minutes. Considering you're willing to drop $500 on something, you should definitely be sure.
Tab is lighter, and IMHO, more comfortable to hold than the iPad2 (a few of my co-workers have iPad's)
The screen resolution is higher on the Tab, it is easier on my eyes (your eyes might react differently), and my co-workers agree for the most part.
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Tab is lighter, and IMHO, more comfortable to hold than the iPad2 (a few of my co-workers have iPad's)
The screen resolution is higher on the Tab, it is easier on my eyes (your eyes might react differently), and my co-workers agree for the most part.
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So the galaxy screen's width being smaller would be a problem if I wanted to read on it in book like font sizes without having to scroll to the sides all the time?
One more thing: Is it hard reading in landscape mode then?
Do the kindle / nook readers have that option?
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So the galaxy screen's width being smaller would be a problem if I wanted to read on it in book like font sizes without having to scroll to the sides all the time?
One more thing: Is it hard reading in landscape mode then?
Do the kindle / nook readers have that option?
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Just looking at one of the default books that comes on it, it looked fine portrait orientation. The text displayed larger than typically print text without having to scroll left and right. Like I said though, its worth a hands on test for yourself.
I'm sure kindle and nook have landscape options, especially on a tablet. I've been reading a technical text book (with exercises to follow along with) in landscape mode for the most part, however, I'm using whatever is the default pdf reader.
nook works in landscape mode, as does aldiko. I've been reading on it the past couple nights in both orientations and it's fine.
The resolution definitely makes a difference reading - on the ipad, text at my preferred size always looked slightly blurry, just enough to be annoying.
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So the galaxy screen's width being smaller would be a problem if I wanted to read on it in book like font sizes without having to scroll to the sides all the time?
One more thing: Is it hard reading in landscape mode then?
Do the kindle / nook readers have that option?
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Nope you don't need to scroll left/right in portrait mode, it scales the text to fit the screen width.
No issues using Google Books or Kindle app in landscape or portrait - I do prefer portrait for reading, but landscape for browsing.
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Thing is, I don't live in the U.S. I can't buy it and return it.
So I can either go with the iPad 2 or the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
The software isn't an issue (there are tons of PDF reading / editing apps on the market). I'm just asking for someone to compare it to the iPad 2 from the design point of view (mostly putting the focus on holding it for an extended period of time).
In other words:
Does it do a better job of reading / browsing than the iPad 2 (in the non software sense)
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I've always been down the middle. I suppose I can give honest feedback as I owned iPad 1, and got rid of it because it was too heavy and cumbersome to hold, then I got iPad 2 because in order for iPad 1 to be useful I had to jailbreak it, then on iPad 2 there's no jailbreak available (yet). even so, the screen quality on iPad 2 is so bad... so grainy, you can see every pixel. Then I got the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and it's neat being able to customize, widgets, flash etc. Where it falls short is media.... it's a pain in the ass a) finding a media file that will actually play without having to convert 10x, and b) managing a sync between device and computer... so for me that's where iPad wins... their sync management is just great.
But at the end of the day, Galaxy tab wins by a decent margin because it's open... I can put my icons where I want, customize the hell out of it, and don't have to live within the confines of "take it or leave it" when it comes to the way I use it. It's just so nice to be able to go away for the weekend and just take a tablet knowing it'll handle any website I can throw at it. Ipad I couldn't even use some travel websites because of the flash issue.... that and their multitasking was a joke.
I use tthe GT10.1 and the nook app, I have not tried the ipad but reading on the tab is great in either orientation. With the nook app you can adjust font size easily so should be fine for any age of eyes in any orientation.
Good luck
I am planning on getting a tablet for college and was hoping to see if the note was good for viewing pdfs on? I had the Asus Vivo Tab and it was just awful for pdfs so I returned it. Does pdf run smoothly on it? Also I was wondering how customizable it is? I'd like to download more apps then what is available on the microsoft market. Is it a good tablet overall?
This tablet would be perfect for a student. It gives you the ability to write using a pen, record voice notes and view pdf files easily. You are also able to modify and annotate the pdf files on your tab....
Agreed
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The note is by far far far the best tablet for a student
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This is by far the best, most thoughtfully put out product I have ever used. As a student, I can't imagine going to school without one of these now.
Good to hear, I purchased one earlier for that purpose earlier and it's currently charging.
The tablet is very customizable, just check out the available ROMs for it.
For PDFs, you can use Adobe Reader. You can annotate and even write on them.
For taking notes I suggest using Lecture Notes.
And of course, everything looks and works great on this tablet.
Can I get adobe flash player to work on the note?
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Can I get adobe flash player to work on the note?
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Yes. Just enable unknown sources in settings then download & install apk from the internet browser.
Also to answer your original question, this is a great tablet for students. I take it to all my lectures. I used to use a laptop, but the battery couldn't get me through one lecture. This tablet gets 10 hours of screen on time doing anything except gaming.
I wish a tablet like the note 10.1 existed back when I was in college. Well yet again, I was a broke a$s guy back then and I don't know if I could have afforded it.. But to answer the question, yep, S Note (an app that comes by default on the tablet) will be your friend. It can take notes, record your notes, take a pic and insert it on your notes, insert and solve formulas, diagrams, etc, etc, and so forth and so forth...
I have flash player installed on mines. It was still available on the Play Store when I installed it. I don't know if the Play store still allows you to install. I know for sure it's not allowing me to install it on my Note 2 phone.
I am a college student and s note is perfect and being able to add pictures/diagrams to your notes is very convenient
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I'll second the recommendation of lecture notes. I could never get long well with snote for some reason. I use the tab for note taking at school and work. It is great. hopefully they come out with it's big brother in a year or so so i can upgrade.
You wouldn't believe how many times people sitting beside me have been like "whoa that's so cool, what tablet is that?"
How smooth is the note for running big pdfs? I'm talking 1000+ pages since they're textbooks.
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How smooth is the note for running big pdfs? I'm talking 1000+ pages since they're textbooks.
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My motorcycle shop manual is 1200 pages and I have no issues surfing thru it on eZPDF (paid app from the play store)
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How smooth is the note for running big pdfs? I'm talking 1000+ pages since they're textbooks.
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I do that and It all runs fine
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I'm a graduate student, and I've been using it to take notes mostly. It's basically the ultimate tool for me, allowing me to read, write, and everything in between without adding to my bag's weight. I have viewed up PDFs up to about 500 pages mostly (not a lot of physics reference books go up past 500 pages as far as I can tell). My notes are finally something I can refer to, since they're not scattered in fifty billion places (I wasn't the most organized student..).
In any case, I can see that people have given you recommendations already, and I'll add my praise to LectureNotes, Edroid Reader, and Adobe Reader.
Sample notes: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x1rbyi3jrzsn4bb/Quantum Mechanics.pdf
I do all of my homework on my tablet and send it electronically to my professors. I was worried that they would not be on board, but I actually received compliments from all of them. I also take all of my notes on the tablet. Shape tools and different colors make diagramming and organizing big messy equations much easier than on paper.
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On tests I feel handicapped with a pen/pencil and paper. No copy/paste my own handwriting?!?! Erasing leaves marks?!? You've gotta be kidding me.
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I'm a graduate student, and I've been using it to take notes mostly. It's basically the ultimate tool for me, allowing me to read, write, and everything in between without adding to my bag's weight. I have viewed up PDFs up to about 500 pages mostly (not a lot of physics reference books go up past 500 pages as far as I can tell). My notes are finally something I can refer to, since they're not scattered in fifty billion places (I wasn't the most organized student..).
In any case, I can see that people have given you recommendations already, and I'll add my praise to LectureNotes, Edroid Reader, and Adobe Reader.
Sample notes: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x1rbyi3jrzsn4bb/Quantum Mechanics.pdf
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Nice notes.
What program do you use to anmotate pdfs?
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I bought and used the Note for all of last semester. I haven't used it to view PDFs much but I did use it to take down notes during lectures. It's quite good for that but it is compromised because it does not feel like writing on paper. My handwriting is quite bad on it but I adjust a little bit and it gets better (still not perfect). This is compounded by the fact that Samsung quality control is kind of ****ty and my pen leaves little tails at the end of strokes so the writing looks even worse (search, someone else had this issue as well). I ordered the standalone larger pen for it from South Korea (because Samsung CAN NOT or REFUSES to get its **** together regarding accessories unlike Apple) and it does not leave tails, or they're less pronounced. Problem is, the nibs on this pen are super slippery. Anyway, like all Samsung devices everything is a compromise so don't get your hopes up too high.
At the end of the day, it's the only tablet in this category at this price range so I wouldn't have anything else for school. No more multiple notebooks, Evernote syncing, LectureNotes (great app), no more multiple colored pens. Try it out.
The 2nd Gen Nexus 7 was announced not long ago, and is in stores on the 30th. So what I was thinking is using that instead of a laptop.What I want to know is if anyone has any experience of using a tablet in place of a laptop for general use, and college use. I was planning to get a small keyboard to lug around and maybe a stand. I've never owned a tablet, so I dunno what would be best. Opinions, advice, experiences?
No, an Android or iOS tablet will not replace your traditional Windows laptop.
For college I think it would be better to just get a laptop because it will be an overall better experience in that regard. For personal home use though I think a tablet is a great replacement in most not all situations
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I used my N7 for university and its great for lecture notes, browsing etc and also weighs nearly nothing when compared to a laptop. However I still lug my laptop along when i need Autocad
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The 2nd Gen Nexus 7 was announced not long ago, and is in stores on the 30th. So what I was thinking is using that instead of a laptop.What I want to know is if anyone has any experience of using a tablet in place of a laptop for general use, and college use. I was planning to get a small keyboard to lug around and maybe a stand. I've never owned a tablet, so I dunno what would be best. Opinions, advice, experiences?
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For your intended purposes, a tablet would be a good tool to augment the laptop, not to replace it.
I used my N7 with Google keep and thumb keyboard to type notes, colour coded according to subject.
When lecture notes were available beforehand, I used repligo reader to insert text boxes below the slides, upload to Google drive, then print at home.
To all the naysayers... Quit the generalisation that 'tablets are only good for consumption', that line is getting old...
Being able to access university books anywhere, and highlight, makes this indispensable, especially on the commute. Portability and lightness is key. Reviewing lectures on the bus is great.
I only take my laptop now to take notes, when I have a day of 8hrs of lectures where I need the battery life and physical keyboard. So yeah, won't replace a pc, but it can get 80% of the job done for me..
Sorry for the rant
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I used my N7 with Google keep and thumb keyboard to type notes, colour coded according to subject.
When lecture notes were available beforehand, I used repligo reader to insert text boxes below the slides, upload to Google drive, then print at home.
To all the naysayers... Quit the generalisation that 'tablets are only good for consumption', that line is getting old...
Being able to access university books anywhere, and highlight, makes this indispensable, especially on the commute. Portability and lightness is key. Reviewing lectures on the bus is great.
I only take my laptop now to take notes, when I have a day of 8hrs of lectures where I need the battery life and physical keyboard. So yeah, won't replace a pc, but it can get 80% of the job done for me..
Sorry for the rant
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No one made or implied said generalization. What has been stated is that a tablet is good as an augment to, not a replacement for, a computer. You even closed your rant with that very same observation.
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No one made or implied said generalization. What has been stated is that a tablet is good as an augment to, not a replacement for, a computer. You even closed your rant with that very same observation.
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Yes.
My rant was intended to inform others that come across this thread, it was not directed to any of the above posters.
Apologies if you or anyone else took it that way.
But seriously, people just dismiss tablets so easily without actually using them, if i got a dollar for every time i read the statement "tablets are only good for consumption", i'd have enough to back the ubuntu edge...
Do you think the 2014 version of this tablet will be worth it. I know there is already other topics on this but I wanted to know if the additional $250 is worth it over the previous model. All I would be using it for would be taking notes and having my PDF books on it. I would also like to be able to write/highlight on the pdf books with the pen if that is possible.
I don't own one/not gonna buy one of the Note 10.1s (I have a tablet as my signature suggests and despite the age of it and the S-Pen my current one suits me just fine)
But I've used two of the first Note 10.1s and for a pretty mediocre tablet (in terms of specs and everything) its still a pretty good device to use for school, which my friends use it for.
The 2014 model does make it easier to take notes and so on, with Action Memo and everything else in there, plus chances are the S-Pen functionality has been improved.
With writing all over pdfs, there are apps on the market, both free and paid, that work pretty well with the S-Pen. I don't know what app it is, but my friend uses one of these on his Note 10.1 (the original one), and it works pretty well. I have iAnnotate PDF on my own one. Dunno whether that functionality is built into the tablet itself- whether you can write all over pdfs by default- but there are apps to do it as well.
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450rider22 said:
Do you think the 2014 version of this tablet will be worth it. I know there is already other topics on this but I wanted to know if the additional $250 is worth it over the previous model. All I would be using it for would be taking notes and having my PDF books on it. I would also like to be able to write/highlight on the pdf books with the pen if that is possible.
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I have the 2012 version. I use it mainly for taking notes and a little bit of media if I'm in bed. If you're going to be reading lots and lots on it, then you might want to opt in for the newer version as the resolution is much better. The 2012 version's resolution is a little lackluster, but it is adequate for reading. I will not be upgrading, as I do not need the new features.
New not 10.1 is lighter, has better screen resolution and s pen functionality, so the answer is yes.
450rider22 said:
Do you think the 2014 version of this tablet will be worth it. I know there is already other topics on this but I wanted to know if the additional $250 is worth it over the previous model. All I would be using it for would be taking notes and having my PDF books on it. I would also like to be able to write/highlight on the pdf books with the pen if that is possible.
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I used the original 10.1 for a semester at school. It got the job done for the most part, but I ran into certain compatibility issues for school work that needed flash in the browser or whatever other codings / plugins android doesn't support well.
I sold it and bought a Samsung 500T windows tablet refurbished(only $360 on amazon). While the thing can be extremely slow in certain situations, I'm much more happy with it. In my opinion, Onenote is a better program than Snote or Lecturenotes. Example: for my accounting homework online, I can print the entire webpage to onenote and write out calculations and journal entries on the side. While I could do screen clippings on the note 10.1, I don't believe there's a way to do the entire webpage without multiple clippings (which can be very time consuming in the middle of class).
In all, I prefer Onenote over anything on android and I enjoy having it synced through Dropbox so I can get my notes on my desktop instantly as well. The process of printing lecture slides from powerpoint to Onenote is much faster as well.
From experience, I would personally recommend something windows based for school.
450rider22 said:
Do you think the 2014 version of this tablet will be worth it. I know there is already other topics on this but I wanted to know if the additional $250 is worth it over the previous model. All I would be using it for would be taking notes and having my PDF books on it. I would also like to be able to write/highlight on the pdf books with the pen if that is possible.
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I currently have the older 10.1 model in my possession and I'm using it for school. I love it. S-notes is wonderful and there is a youtuber named rhea white who posted a lot of videos that really sold me on on it. You can import PDF's into S note and write on them from there. A lot of my professors like to use power points so I just download them, save them as PDF's and then import then into s note.
One issue I've had with it though is when I want to see two s note files at once. Sometimes I'll have someone in another note that I want to reference really quickly without having ot export it as a PDF and open it in another app. the 2014 model is supposed to support multiple instances of the same application which is why I was stoked and preordered one. the older model can also bit a bit slow when opening a note or creating a new one which got annoying when I was trying to keep up with what the teacher was saying. these haven't been issues so serious that would make me go back to pen and paper though.
as another poster mention you might find yourself a little limited in terms of working with online solutions. for example some of my professors use webassign, and I've found that I can't work directly on the site with the tablet which is where a tablet with a full OS would probably be better. However consider those types of tablets are more expensive i'm more than happy with my 10.1 and look forward to working on teh 10.1 2014 edition.
Just a question for those of you using a Note for school and annotations, etc.
I've been out of school for about 25 years now. We didn't even use desktop computers, let alone laptops (no, I never learned to use a slide rule. We did have calculators. Slide rules were before my time), etc. I understand using a tablet for taking notes (I'm not THAT antiquated!). I know that PowerPoints and, from what I'm reading, pdf's, are used nowadays; however, I'm not accustomed to modern teaching practices.
Where are you getting the pdf's from? Do the profs email them to you? Do you scan handouts and import them? In my day I used to get a buzz because of the lithograph ink and the alcohol(!) in them. That sometimes made the boring classes bearable.
I'm just curious, that's all. I'm reading all that people are writing, and it's bugging my curiosity.
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Just a question for those of you using a Note for school and annotations, etc.
I've been out of school for about 25 years now. We didn't even use desktop computers, let alone laptops (no, I never learned to use a slide rule. We did have calculators. Slide rules were before my time), etc. I understand using a tablet for taking notes (I'm not THAT antiquated!). I know that PowerPoints and, from what I'm reading, pdf's, are used nowadays; however, I'm not accustomed to modern teaching practices.
Where are you getting the pdf's from? Do the profs email them to you? Do you scan handouts and import them? In my day I used to get a buzz because of the lithograph ink and the alcohol(!) in them. That sometimes made the boring classes bearable.
I'm just curious, that's all. I'm reading all that people are writing, and it's bugging my curiosity.
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In my classes, they upload the PDFs and PowerPoint's to a centralized DB. Depending what classes you're enrolled in you have access to those DB, in a nice GUI.
I download them from piratebay and those kind of websites lol
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In my classes, they upload the PDFs and PowerPoint's to a centralized DB. Depending what classes you're enrolled in you have access to those DB, in a nice GUI.
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Ah...that's how it's done. Thank you.
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450rider22 said:
Do you think the 2014 version of this tablet will be worth it. I know there is already other topics on this but I wanted to know if the additional $250 is worth it over the previous model. All I would be using it for would be taking notes and having my PDF books on it. I would also like to be able to write/highlight on the pdf books with the pen if that is possible.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKYsYUNFFkg
The original has been great for me. I read a lot of pdfs and highlight and annotate with ezpdf. I use Lecturenotes for taking down info.
I'm interested in the new Note mainly for the improved resolution but tbh I can read technical pdfs perfectly well as is so I'm very doubtful that it's worth the extra cost to trade up.
I think I am going to wait until my first trimester is done and hopefully the price will have gone down. Thanks for all the advice.
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I used the original 10.1 for a semester at school. It got the job done for the most part, but I ran into certain compatibility issues for school work that needed flash in the browser or whatever other codings / plugins android doesn't support well.
I sold it and bought a Samsung 500T windows tablet refurbished(only $360 on amazon). While the thing can be extremely slow in certain situations, I'm much more happy with it. In my opinion, Onenote is a better program than Snote or Lecturenotes. Example: for my accounting homework online, I can print the entire webpage to onenote and write out calculations and journal entries on the side. While I could do screen clippings on the note 10.1, I don't believe there's a way to do the entire webpage without multiple clippings (which can be very time consuming in the middle of class).
In all, I prefer Onenote over anything on android and I enjoy having it synced through Dropbox so I can get my notes on my desktop instantly as well. The process of printing lecture slides from powerpoint to Onenote is much faster as well.
From experience, I would personally recommend something windows based for school.
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Given that the base model is now $550, I am interested in Windows tablets now too such as the new Dell Venue Pros with Baytrail Atom CPU's. However, I don't want to learn a new OS and don't want to learn a new program. I actually was very active at using Onenote in college 5 years ago but it was a flawed app and Microsoft really didn't give it the kick it needed until Evernote started showing them how things should be done on the cloud. But I think I may very well trade in a note 10.1 for a good windows 8 tablet if the feature-set is there. An all-day battery life, powerful pdf annotation tools on the level of iannotate for Ipad, and good multitasking would be my priorities.
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The original has been great for me. I read a lot of pdfs and highlight and annotate with ezpdf. I use Lecturenotes for taking down info.
I'm interested in the new Note mainly for the improved resolution but tbh I can read technical pdfs perfectly well as is so I'm very doubtful that it's worth the extra cost to trade up.
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I am trading up for exactly that reason. The 720p resolution kind of makes my eyes bleed and ezpdf renders pages too slowly for me. In full-window mode, most texts are fine but I like to multi-window with a note-taking app as well next to the PDF I'm reading. For this purpose, 720p is just too slow a resolution for me. I got a note 3 and pdf rendering is far faster than it was on the Note 2 which is great because I am often flipping quickly through hundreds of pages at once back and forth. I am hoping for that same kind of improvement in the Note 10.1 2014. If the Note 10.1 2013 was 1080p, I probably would wait to upgrade until there's a sale but 2560x1600p is like 4x the pixels of 1280x720p so to me its a huge increase in workflow efficiency given how much I use my note daily.
I currently use the 12' version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. I'm in my first year of medical school and I use this for everything. I actually converted many of my ipad using friends to getting a note as well, mainly for its multiwindow capability and s-pen. EZpdf and LectureNotes are my go to apps in lecture and studying. For students this tablet is miles ahead of the Ipad. I'm look forward to getting my new note 2014 on Friday. Ok now back to studying.
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I currently use the 12' version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. I'm in my first year of medical school and I use this for everything. I actually converted many of my ipad using friends to getting a note as well, mainly for its multiwindow capability and s-pen. EZpdf and LectureNotes are my go to apps in lecture and studying. For students this tablet is miles ahead of the Ipad. I'm look forward to getting my new note 2014 on Friday. Ok now back to studying.
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jaztech, I'm in the same boat...first year of med school. I'm currently using my iPad with Notability, but it's hardly ideal. Any tips you have for apps specifically for med students would be awesome. I'll be getting the two you recommended. Thanks again!
noleafclover830 said:
jaztech, I'm in the same boat...first year of med school. I'm currently using my iPad with Notability, but it's hardly ideal. Any tips you have for apps specifically for med students would be awesome. I'll be getting the two you recommended. Thanks again!
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You're welcome Visible Body is an excellent app and I use it to supplement Netter's anatomy. It's especially great for getting a 3-D visualization outside of anatomy lab. Price is a little up there but it is completely worth it. Also check out this website: http://www.imedicalapps.com.
When the first edition came out last year there was really no competition.
However windows has grown so much... there are a handful of wimdows tablets from dell and so on that are worth considering.
My main thing is the ability to fully use onenote.
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You're welcome Visible Body is an excellent app and I use it to supplement Netter's anatomy. It's especially great for getting a 3-D visualization outside of anatomy lab. Price is a little up there but it is completely worth it. Also check out this website:
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I have Essential Anatomy on my iPad which is pretty stellar, but Visible Body has a few other features that I like as well. Was contemplating getting it for the iPad, but I may opt for the android version instead. Still trying to work out my over all workflow. I may keep the iPad for a "reference" screen (apps, books, etc) and use the Note for taking my notes and making my study guides. Thanks for the tip!