As the title really, I'm not struck on the desire dialer, is there anyway to replace it with the standard android dialer?
andrewpmoore said:
As the title really, I'm not struck on the desire dialer, is there anyway to replace it with the standard android dialer?
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I don't think the standard Android componenets are available on the Desire, like the Dialer or the Home, and not sure if the Dialer can be installed as an application.
But was wondering why would you want to replace the HTC dialer with the Android one? HTC Dialer is waaaaay better in my opinion!
salahag said:
I don't think the standard Android componenets are available on the Desire, like the Dialer or the Home, and not sure if the Dialer can be installed as an application.
But was wondering why would you want to replace the HTC dialer with the Android one? HTC Dialer is waaaaay better in my opinion!
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I think it's each to their own. After owning HTC devices (WM) for years, I eventually got sick of HTC's design and generally avoid their applications. I know lots of people like sense ui and their applications, but I'd prefer my desire to be just more like the nexus one.
I'd have got a nexus one I could have got one on contract in the uk on my network operator.
Yes I get what you mean, I'd go for the pure android too, if it had HTC's Dialer, Keyboard and easier moving between screens (On Sense UI just a little quick swipe moves the homescreens).
What I meant about being better is not the design or interface, but the way you can easily and in a second find your contact. Where as you click, it brilliantly searches in numbers and names.
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Hi,
This is my first post here. I got my htc hero a couple days ago and I've spent most of that time tinkering with it. I'm generally loving it, although I prefer the original android home screen to htc's custom interface. I've noticed that some things like the phonebook are quite laggy, and am under the impression that android's stock phonebook would feel much snappier.
So I would like to install a stock cupcake or donut android to my phone. The thing is, I'm really new to this so I'm not even sure if it's possible. Can it be done? Has any of you guys done it? Even if I succeed, will I be able to use my phone to call and send messages, or will I need to do extra stuff? Can I backup everything in my phone, so that I'll be able to revert it if I break something or I decide that no, the sense ui was better after all?
You see that's a lot of questions, I really hope you guys can give me a hand with this.
Cheers!
After reading some other threads, I think I have some of my questions answered. But do you guys know if any of the stock android builds works with the hero? Can I install anything to it, apart from the system that came with the phone?
you can only install Hero builds on your phone! currently there are none as the phone just came out. So just be patient. If you think the UI is too laggy.. clear default home screen and use regular launcher..
The HTC touchflo stuff works on top of android so If you REALLY wanted to revert back to basic android then i guess you could after rooting and installing a basic android ROM. WARNING though, i dont think that has been done yet. reasons in include
WHY WHY WHY?
Hero has exchange support, basic flash support.
barryallott said:
The HTC touchflo stuff works on top of android so If you REALLY wanted to revert back to basic android then i guess you could after rooting and installing a basic android ROM.
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Well minogue seems to think otherwise... has anyone tried actually?
Anyway, if I use nandroid to backup my system I shouldn't risk anything right?
I think I'll just wait but, can you point me to a basic android Rom? I've seen there are lots of them and I would't know which one to pick.
I written this with the phone, by the way. Awesome keyboard
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Well minogue seems to think otherwise... has anyone tried actually?
Anyway, if I use nandroid to backup my system I shouldn't risk anything right?
I think I'll just wait but, can you point me to a basic android Rom? I've seen there are lots of them and I would't know which one to pick.
I written this with the phone, by the way. Awesome keyboard
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And you would lose this 'awesome' keyboard!
Just turn off SenseUI. The rest of Android runs underneath.
Where are the default Calendar and Contact apps ?
I'm in exactly the same boat as frandavid100. I love the Hero's hardware, but most of SenseUI is too flashy; I don't care about most of the improvements (seven home screens, irritating widgets, lots of Facebook/Twitter/Flickr integration, exchange support) and I'd say some of them are worse than the alternative (the calendar doesn't show as much information in the month view; Flash in the browser just makes websites much, much slower and doesn't work for video).
On the other hand, apparently 1.5 is much faster, and 2.0 (on release) will have multitouch in Google Maps as well as in the browser, so I'd like to get running the stock Android operating system.
I don't know anything about cooking ROMs, though, so I'll wait for a kind benefactor. Hopefully it's not just frandavid100 and I who want a faster version of Android...
Glad to see I'm not alone.
Anyway, is there a way to test the stock android keyboard and phonebook? I kinda dig htc's keyboard, with its compact qwerty layout, but I hate the phonebook and I haven't found a decent alternative in the market.
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Beeing used to G1 I would also prefer simple UI .. not that Sense is bad
but I prefer simple that sexy UI Then we could benefit of full hero
power on cupcake or donut ...
phcollignon said:
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Beeing used to G1 I would also prefer simple UI .. not that Sense is bad
but I prefer simple that sexy UI Then we could benefit of full hero
power on cupcake or donut ...
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You already effectively have Cupcake on the Hero - firmware version is V1.5, which is a Cupcake build. If you just drop Sense UI, your back to almost a vanilla G1 build, which the exception you have HTC keyboards and apps as opposed to Google ones. Given that the hardware in the Hero is pretty similar to the Magic (at least those with 288mb RAM), there isn't exactly any additional "power" to harness either!
With respect to Donut, as far as I'm aware there are *no* operational Donut ROMs available for the G1, Magic, or Hero as yet.
Regards,
Dave
I do also prefer the clean fast Android interface over HTC's one, I know how to make the default home screen to be the Android one but touchflo keeps running in the backgroupd eating more than 30MB RAM and wondering if it is safe to uninstall this package and probably others too. In brief, disable the sense UI. It is maybe nice but at this point is slow compared to the Android interface
yeh, i would like to remove the touchflo altogether as it keeps running in the background even though i use the default home screen. Or at least have some sort of of startup manager to stop things running at boot.
must be out soon, there is some leaked screenshots here including the widget.
http://androidguys.com/?p=6260
OK - so the Her is already running Cupcake, but with SenseUI on top, and while you can disable some parts of SenseUI from running, you can't actually get rid of them.
In that case I think I'll wait and see what happens around Donut. If HTC release an updated Hero ROM, I'll go with that, and if they don't, I can wait for a generous ROM chef to bake a nice, basic Donut ROM for the Hero. Thanks for everyone's help.
You'll need to root your phone to do it:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...if-you-wanted-to-get-rid-of-rosie-completely/
Me tooo
I would love to be able to 'downgrade' my Hero to the stock android.
At the very least, I'd love an easy way to install the stock android applications on top of the HTC ones, and hopefully uninstall the ones I don't use so as to save some application space.
Hi:
I´ve seen videos presenting both the HTC Bravo and Legend with the expected Sense upgrade. I saw on Bravo home screen weather animation and animated backgrounds...as on the HTC HD2 while in Legend, static weather and static bakcgrounds.
Which one do you think we will get?
Legend kind...because of the mhz alikeness or Bravo style inspite the mhz differences?
Hoping it is Bravo....assuming it is Legend...
Maybe Bravo´s rom can be ported to Hero, I used to have HTC HD running HTC HD2 roms and it worked pretty good!!!!
Any comments?? Does anyone cares about this or just me?
Bye
i think that every 2.1 sense will be the same. and i just found that video of the legend WITH that animation (actually you can just see it for about 1 second) but it isnt static.
Cant wait to get all those new updates =)
Here's the link to that vid:
http://video.golem.de/handy/2836/praesentation-von-htc-desire-und-legend-auf-dem-mobile-world-congress-2010.html
Yes, you are right, I saw the weather animation....bad luck...no wallpaper animatin.
Well...something is something...!!!!
WTF is up with all those videos????
They are all the same. Is it really soooo interesting to see someone flip through the home screens? Didn't it occur to some reporters to also check other features and bugfixes (like the one where you can't select text in a website with the trackball). Now, you could say it's because the home screen has most of the new features. Well I beg to differ. If that's really all they have now, why the **** did it take them so long? If it's 2.1, there must be 2.1 features of which these guys could show the Senese UI integration.
I have just seen a danish interview with a talks person from HTC saying 2.1 sould be out for the Hero 1. april
I'm seriously getting annoyed by either htc, who doesn't announce properly, by the local divisions that announce too much ****, or the press and users doing that...
I had a look around on some videos.
It looks like the legend sense 2.1 does not have the voice to text feature but the desire does! (Looking at each keyboard)
Its sad that they took out some of android 2.1's features. (Hopefully im wrong)
Also noticed that there is an editable dictionary with sense 2.1.
I hope HTC will not start marketing by disabling software features like Nokia does. I hope thatthe only difference, usability wise, betwen Legend, Hero and Desire will be screen resolution.
I would consider very much about buying thesetwo new phones though, they will probably not release updates on time just like with Hero, for the same marketing reason.
As i seen that are few Android builds but most of them doesn't have a Sense build i thought we can give a hand to the chefs...
So i'll start a poll and let's see how many of us want Sense or not!
with Sense
I hate sense...
I like with HTC Sense because of the looks and functionality as phone and sense widgets!
And it's closer to HTC look from winmo...
Cheers!
sense in winmo owns sense in android.. so I vote for non sense..
but I really like the Facebook inegrated with contact in sense.. like the link thingie...
sense is just another HTC winmo layer over android.. Not my taste.
i don't like the sense.....
I like sense cos it makes my phone look like a premium device
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no sense
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For me I say Sense!
Most for the language part...
I say "with Sense"... but I said that in the other poll about this subject too
Why a double thread:
Search before starting new threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735787
With Sense as UI on Android is like this
Plain Android Froyo - first photo
Android with Sense UI - Second Photo
I thought there were sense build in to Android now :S?
I vote with!
I don't mind, the way I see it Sense is not as bad as some users here describe it...
waldemator said:
I don't mind, the way I see it Sense is not as bad as some users here describe it...
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Guten Morgen!
I made this poll in order for the chefs to take into considertion our opinion about how they make builds with or without sense...
If moderators consider to delete this post... i have nothing against it.
And yes i would like the latest android build to have sense
cheers
Tough one really. I like "some" bits of sense... but to be honest I think i prefer Android without. I prefer the stock keyboard.
Although I 'do' like the 'scenes' you can pick from, using Sense
hmmmmmmm decisions decisions!
definitely with sense. android sense is much better than winmo sense, it does not hog the cpu or anything, plus it is highly customizable. you can choose what options you want and dont want.
It makes the phone look really cool, rather than the boring homescreen with just shortcuts
I prefer sense. Been using a standard build since the 18th and its cool but I like built in customization sense offers. Plus I love the weather animations on my screen :lol:
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Now that our HTC Vision's were S-off'ed and rooted, we now have the choice of using either the G2 environment or the Sense environment. I don't want to start a religious war of either version. As a MoDaCo subscriber, I have access to either environment, and honestly, I can't decide which one to pick.
The Sense version actually uses the EU image, so it lacks the English (Canada) locale among other things and the G2 has the T-Mobile G2 bootanimation (which honestly I can change anytime). But those are trivial issues.
The Sense UI has that fast boot/hibernation thing going for it, but honestly, I rarely powerdown my phone.
The Google UI has that minimal thing going for it. It's a pure Google phone (especially when you don't put those T-Mobile ware on it) and I like that.
As a end user, what makes you like more one or the other?
Before really using sense with my Desire Z I would have definitely chosen minimal Froyo but I really feel that HTC has done a wonderful job with sense. The UI is definitely very attractive, runs smoothly and I love the greater level of integration it has with facebook and whatnot. Definitely going to be using sense for now but am looking forward to Gingerbread
As an Android noob, I too would be interested to know what on my Desire Z is 'basic Android' and what is part of the HTC Sense addon. Or to put it another way, what features would I lose if I went back to pure Android?
I have noticed that there are about 5 different apps for mapping/location/etc, which all seem to do very similar things: Maps, Locations, Places, Lattitude and Navigation. Same with Facebook/Twitter interfaces. Why so much confusing duplication and cross-over?
Andre
andrewilley said:
As an Android noob, I too would be interested to know what on my Desire Z is 'basic Android' and what is part of the HTC Sense addon. Or to put it another way, what features would I lose if I went back to pure Android?
I have noticed that there are about 5 different apps for mapping/location/etc, which all seem to do very similar things: Maps, Locations, Places, Lattitude and Navigation. Same with Facebook/Twitter interfaces. Why so much confusing duplication and cross-over?
Andre
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Yeah same here... What is this "sense" people keep talking about. and why is it so bad in some people eyes.
Hi everybody,
one week ago I bought a new Samsung Galaxy S4.
It is a great mobil phone, but I really miss HTC Sense from my HTC One X+
So my question is:
Is there anywhere a "rom" or an other possibility to get HTC Sense on the S4??
Thx for your help.
tobi
Some people might be able to port it but they won't, infact lets say the most easy port will be for the I9505 only since the Exynos octa is too complicated and needs different librarys and files.... and another thing is that eventually when it ports your GS4 features won't work anymore since the Sense wizard doesnt support them which makes the GS4 useless it used to matter on old Cells when the hardware and software were almost identical and only the appearance changes but nowadays its a badass mutation that these pieces of Tech are going through
maybe someone will give you a launcher but not the whole Sense Wiz
Tobbbeeeey said:
Hi everybody,
one week ago I bought a new Samsung Galaxy S4.
It is a great mobil phone, but I really miss HTC Sense from my HTC One X+
So my question is:
Is there anywhere a "rom" or an other possibility to get HTC Sense on the S4??
Thx for your help.
tobi
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You'll never have sense 4/5 on Samsung device many reasons for that lemme give you a few.
1. It would take forever to try and port it ( while the port would have sh1t load of buggs )
2. Pretty much requires the whole system cuz of framework.
3. Different drivers ( tho would be easier to port it on snapdragon s4)
4. HTC is never gonna give their codes since then everyone would have blink feed, HTC gallery etc, Zoe, you name it. Same with Samsung, everyone would have multiwindow etc what doesn't require hardware.
The only way you can have some type of sense would be getting launcher and downing icon packs.
Best would be flashing cm /aokp / aosp.
Getting icon pack for the launcher and downloading sense theme for cm
As for widgets there are bunch of them on the market or you could download uccw and make yourself some.
Anyway whatever you do it'll never be good as original. You'll always miss key features.
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On the other hand if you don't like the touch wiz you can pretty much have full Xperia system
Widgets, walkman, bravia, gallery, etc, you name it. Just look at xda or use search button.