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Froyo coverd with sense ui for evo? ......

I hate sense UI I love the vanilla look, lockscreen, dialer, etc. Htc has already disabled google launcher with update, so now i fear our froyo will be waterd down in with htc sense. What do you guys think. If its true bye bye evo.

watered down my @ss HTC sense is a much better looking functioning version of the android ui although I can sympathize with people liking stock everything.

iceman99393 said:
I hate sense UI I love the vanilla look, lockscreen, dialer, etc. Htc has already disabled google launcher with update, so now i fear our froyo will be waterd down in with htc sense. What do you guys think. If its true bye bye evo.
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Of course HTC will include Froyo with Sense, it's HTC, what do you expect? However, there's an easy solution -- just set the Vanilla UI as your default and not Sense.
And just because the Evo will have a Froyo with Sense, you plan on saying good bye to your phone?? Have you seen what the devs and themers here can create? Not to mention, its extremely easy to rip out Sense if you want to, there are tons of people like you that don't care for Sense, there will definitely be a Senseless Froyo when it comes out.
I quite frankly think Sense is great (highly customizable), the Vanilla Android isn't anything special -- thus the reason why Google plans on making drastic changes too it in the future Gingerbread update.

Cant even set vanilla as default now with recent ota

iceman99393 said:
I hate sense UI I love the vanilla look, lockscreen, dialer, etc. Htc has already disabled google launcher with update, so now i fear our froyo will be waterd down in with htc sense. What do you guys think. If its true bye bye evo.
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I hear that palm treo is nice. You should get rid of your evo and go get one of those babys! VANILLA to the max!!!
If you dont like sense then get a different phone or root and change it to whatever you want. hell make your own theme. Complaining about sense would be the same as buying a car and complaining that it was red. Sure you could change it to blue if you REALLY wanted but you didnt think about what you wanted when you got it so now you would rather complain.

pseudoremora said:
Of course HTC will include Froyo with Sense, it's HTC, what do you expect? However, there's an easy solution -- just set the Vanilla UI as your default and not Sense..
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I think the OP's point was that with the latest update, they removed the option to do what you're saying, you can no longer go to stock Android and are forced to use Sense.
It'll suck for those that don't want to root their phone. For everyone else, I'm sure we'll be able to disable sense if we wish. Just another reason in a long list to root our phones.
If you don't want to root and you don't like sense, then I guess your only real option for a vanilla android phone will be a nexus one, or maybe a Droid if you can disable their UI's as well.

Sirchuk said:
I think the OP's point was that with the latest update, they removed the option to do what you're saying, you can no longer go to stock Android and are forced to use Sense.
It'll suck for those that don't want to root their phone. For everyone else, I'm sure we'll be able to disable sense if we wish. Just another reason in a long list to root our phones.
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Yea, I tested the the method and well it seems the new update did take away vanilla option. But... I'm sure someone will find away around it or you can always find a ROM without Sense.

Use launcherpro. It does what the stock launcher does only better.

Porting Sense to Vibrant?

Is this possible?

As of right now I think the development are worrying about getting a recovery on our phones and we need the recovery to flash roms unless there's another way...

Not only that but sense is a cpu hog. Such a horrible UI.

CM6 is all I care about getting on here. FB/Twitter integration all exists in 2.1, Sense adds little other than pretty looking widgets.

Isn't cm6 2.2??
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robavila721 said:
Isn't cm6 2.2??
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Yes, I was just referring to the fact that we havent needed Sense UI for anything but pretty widgets since Android SDK 2.1

Why would you want Sense over TouchWiz? If you we're looking for pretty there are lots of HTC Sense packing HTC phones on the market. The myTouch Slide is kind of running an ugly version of Sense but it still is Sense.

One more thing to consider, also. You won't find any reputable developer such as Cyanogen putting sense in their roms because of legality issues. So, if you do happen to come across a rom for this phone running sense, chances are its going to be pretty bunk.

Sense has some very appealing factors, such as the hibernate support and of course, the cosmetics of it
In addition, the new version of HTC sense is supposed to have a lot of optimizations meaning it will be faster than before.
At the very least, is it possible for a dev to port the algorithms used for hibernate to the Vibrant?

Use this. its not sense but its a launcher close to it. has 3d drawer and everything.

sombionix said:
One more thing to consider, also. You won't find any reputable developer such as Cyanogen putting sense in their roms because of legality issues. So, if you do happen to come across a rom for this phone running sense, chances are its going to be pretty bunk.
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but there are many more reputable developers then CM

kingkurry said:
Is this possible?
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Possible? perhaps...
Desireable? perhaps not...
Likely? Given the legal issues involved? not very...

I am also interested in this.. But to be honest if it where to happen, it won't happen until the developers get the source code for 2.2 and haber time to play with it.
So, if we are lucky and someone does decide to work on this.. knowing the possible legal issues. It would take a few weeks (after official 2.2) to get it done.
But I have no doubt in my mind that it would work in our phones.
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KingKlik(sp?) made a lot of sense roms for the MT3G and a lot of people seemed to like them. I just think Sense looks terrible, compared to any UI on any new age smartphone I have seen(except maybe Windows Mobile). I'm mainly talking about the launcher tough, the part that people for some reason like to throw on their phone even if they don't have sense.

Poll: CM6 or future 2.2 sense

Like many other peoples i started with stock(duh) moved to liberated and then to CM6. But today i did some researching and the new sense is pretty cool, hopefully will be added to liberated 2.2. My question is, will you guys be moving back to sense 2.2(hopefully with new sense) or staying with CM6?

I'll probably try Froyo Sense when it gets put in Liberated, but I'll probably stick with CM6 unless I'm completely blown away. I do miss parts of Sense though.

Yes. I know that people are quick to dismiss Sense but I like it a lot, especially after using Motorola phones, that are garbage.
I have used every ROM available for this phone and Froyo with HTC Sense would be perfect for me.
I keep going back and forth between CM6 and a ROM that I tinkered with that is like a hybrid. I really hope they have an official update soon or a ROM that combines everything.
Is that asking for too much?

maevro said:
Yes. I know that people are quick to dismiss Sense but I like it a lot, especially after using Motorola phones, that are garbage.
I have used every ROM available for this phone and Froyo with HTC Sense would be perfect for me.
I keep going back and forth between CM6 and a ROM that I tinkered with that is like a hybrid. I really hope they have an official update soon or a ROM that combines everything.
Is that asking for too much?
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Ditto.
Now to wait and see.
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I want froyo sense mmmmmm.

As long as CM upgrades to using the new kernel thats supposed to be released with Froyo I'll stay loyal to CM.

I'd rather have sense -

For me it will depend on if they add in extra features into the Sense that aren't likely to be added into CM.

CM has been a blessing for this little Aria phone, but I do miss Sense UI.

Does this mean htc's 2.2 for aria is around the corner?:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/HTC-Bee-En-Route-to-Verizon-Leaked-ROM-Emerges-160263.shtml

If given a choice, I'd definitely prefer 2.2 Sense!

I'd go with Sense as I like the UI and many of its widgets.

I enjoy some elements of Sense, as they're very carefully designed and work effectively. Conversely, I will only install a ROM if it's as open and customizable as CM6. Android is supposed to be about a more open system and I don't understand why these companies can't understand the needs of power users.

Sense 2.2
I hate to admit it but I miss the pretty. I also carry the iEvil and it's tough to pull out CM6 and not winch a little. For all the UI haters, there is a good reason big companies spend tons of money on the user experience. Functionality can be enhanced with a great UI.

BelacNongaw said:
Does this mean htc's 2.2 for aria is around the corner?:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/HTC-Bee-En-Route-to-Verizon-Leaked-ROM-Emerges-160263.shtml
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*crosses fingers*

According to the specs I saw the HTC Bee has a different (inferior) CPU.

There should be enough guts in that ROM to strip out the hardware specific bits and put in Aria ones.
Attn1 -- looked at that yet? Prognosis?

How come non android native (IE:Hd2 ect ) can get froyo sense and we can't ? Not *****in because I can't make it , but someone can . Maybe a good write up on how to build a rom is in order .

I tried and liked the CM6 mod and everything that went with it, but as I dont have an iPod or anything, not having the radio to listen to is a dealbreaker for me.

Sengfeng said:
There should be enough guts in that ROM to strip out the hardware specific bits and put in Aria ones.
Attn1 -- looked at that yet? Prognosis?
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I was posting that as a possible indication ours is soon to follow. That rom is for a CDMA phone...which means we can probably forget about porting that to the aria.

New update is crap

I got excited when my new preowned hero had an update available
Thought maybe I was getting 2.2. No such luck. Just an update for 2.1 that just breaks Facebook contact sync.
So now I'm cm6.1 as 7 seems unstable. Keyboard transparency and the like. But no sense!
I love sense and I'd like to stay on 2.2 or above. Does anyone know if we will be getting an official HTC 2.2 or can someone suggest a nice fast 2.2 custom rom with sense?
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Hi there
There won't be official 2.2.
Also - There are no fully working 2.2 baked roms with sense. Usualy there are huge problems with camera.
cheers
brat.haneq

Thanks. That's a real shame. Guess I'll stick with cm6.1. Maybe keep my eyes peeled for a nice 2.3.
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Hi
Try Elelinux's Gingerbread Rom He does some pretty goody Roms
as for Sense you can try these two programs which do almost pretty much the same
Launcherpro plus and Beautiful Widgets together give you almost a sense like look
You might have to buy them if you really want them lovely effects
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB5mW8MySSk
the latest launcher pro has sense like calender and contacts and stuff
and beautiful widgets does clocks and stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm6Luip0nho

I did actually try elelinuxs cm7 based Rom but I was gettin transparent keyboards and black screens even with the patch.
I have currently settled on a 2.2 with sense Rom. I'm too keen on friend stream and the contacts and calendar. I sorta feel like I'm doin HTC an injustice if I don't use sense.
It's only the camera that doesn't work and tbh the hero camera is pretty gash.
Thank you both for your suggestions and ideas but I can't buy from the mrket otherwise I would try launcher pro plus and beautiful widgets.
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What can you expect from a big company and 2 years old phone ...

Sense is a horrible resource guzzling interface anyhow. I am in the same situation, I have a HTC Hero GSM running CM6.1. I missed sense at first, but CM is so much faster and featureful. You can really customise your phone on CM, so stop whining like a *****.
Vikash.

vikashhero said:
Sense is a horrible resource guzzling interface anyhow. I am in the same situation, I have a HTC Hero GSM running CM6.1. I missed sense at first, but CM is so much faster and featureful. You can really customise your phone on CM, so stop whining like a *****.
Vikash.
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Maybe so, but the Dialer, Calendar, Exchange Mail client and Clock/Alarms/Stopwatch/Timer apps are all great (in my opinion).

Give us cm7 with sense campaign!!!

To the Vision ROMS Mods,
would you kindly make us a CM7 Sense ROM? A CM7 ROM with or able to take HTC Sense Widgtes?
It is hard, yes, and our mods are hardworking. It is impossible, no, there is no such a thing as impossible when it comes to technology on XDA-Developers.
Hoping and waiting and believing!

This ... would be epic.

It's not impossible, but it's not worth the effort. The Sense widgets require the Sense framework which is closed source. In order to merge the two, you would need to reverse-engineer the Sense framework which is near impossible. So, no, it's not gonna happen.

This has been talked about countless times for years.. if it was possible it would of been achieved by now..
just saying..
on that note, I'd be impressed if I were to log into XDA one and see it a hybred Cm7/Sense ROM

This would be like the yankees and red sox merging to form one entity.

i think every one would love that, it would be great but who knows maybe soon they will, i mean they have sense-ish with vanilla so maybe

If only such a thing was possible... a Sense/CM7 hybrid would be the best ROM ever, hands down
Shame it isn't though, as someone already mentioned, it would involve reverse-engineering Sense since it's closed source, and CM is strictly AOSP

its a extremely difficult task that may not even have a nice reward at the end. Look at how pissed HTC got with the Beautiful widgets looking too much like theirs. My guess is that if a dev did in fact pull this off, it'd be shutdown before most of us could enjoy it...

I actually prefer having to choose between one and the other, since they are so distinct in style. I think some of the "conveniences" of Sense could easily be easily be written into AOSP roms, but in terms of aesthetics and style - I like them being separate.
If a "blend" is what you want, then you should probably give UD a spin, but I'm pretty sure that will fall short of what you seek.

This belongs in the general section. Android has been out since 2008, you don't think someone has already thought about wanting this? And 3 years later it hasn't been accomplished yet? It should already be obvious its not done yet because it's damn near impossible. But hey its not bad to ask for something. Only thing i think would ever be close to this is someone making a stock launcher with beautiful widgets incorperated into it or something hellishly close to
Sense widgets. But besides that, please don't ever, EVER, count on it.
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do it with Sense 3.0 and ill donate a ton, and run around my neighborhood naked! lol

Makes me wonder, what ever happened to sillian?

I've never been a fan of sense, CM is great how it is.

dilfatx said:
I'd be impressed if I were to log into XDA one and see it a hybred Cm7/Sense ROM
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actually the senseginger 3.0 rom is almost that, you can disable htc lockscreen in lieu of vanilla lockscreen, it has the nice gingerbread on/off screen animations, I use launcher pro plus with it and everything seems pretty damn snappy... the launcher pro plus widgets are practically direct copies of the htc widgets, and I get to have a 5x5 homescreen... I'm sure once the source drops for the htc gingerbread vision kernel I'll get stellar quadrant scores as I do on virtuous 1.0.2 (2500+ @ 1402Mhz)

no way...if you want sense, use a sense rom.

Sense is teh suck