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Which ROM maker do you prefer?

Feel free to tell us why you prefer him, which version do you think he made better and why.
What applications would you like to see in his next version?
What applications you'd like to see removed on his next version?
Important note: This is a thread NOT meant to diminish anyone or his skills, or the other way around. It's meant for people to compare the pros and cons on their ROMs, helping them make better ones, and helping the users decide which one they see most fit to their purposes.

Everyone is voting, but no one has yet given any reasons why to like or dislike someone's ROM.
Come on people, I bet they want feed back, and so do we!
I only used bepe's and udK's ROMs, and for a very short period. I think bepe's ROMs are great because he makes 4 different versions with different applications in them. Right now I'm using latest Vega R1 from udK and liking it, but I'm looking forward some minor bug fixing (like the italian text in the cube) in next R2.

I tried many swtos, bepe and udk ROMs...
Result for me is that udKs ROM is without erros, fast and very stable

Ok, after trying all of them i cocluded to udK's R1 because apart from the fact that it is very fast and stable, it has a different design and looks than all the other common ROMs.
I prefer to see something new except that full-light-skinny, etc!
I Would suggest cookers to have a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390543
So i guess we need some new ideas!!!

similar poll can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388580

I've been runnig Bepe for a couple of months - it seems pretty bomb-proof, I haven't been able to find any fault.
(o2 XDA Orbit 2)
HTH
Leon

About the poll
mavvy4ever said:
similar poll can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388580
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Indeed, there is, but with particular ROM and not the latest ones. I created this one so people could express how they feel with the ROMs they've been using over the time. And especially for people to discuss what they like more and/or less in the ROMs, so it can help cookers do their job even better, and to help the new guys (like myself) understanding what they should want on the ROMs they install.
The builds, the applications, the stability of the OS, everything should be discussed here. Even though there are hundreds of other threads to do so.

athanaso77 said:
Ok, after trying all of them i cocluded to udK's R1 because apart from the fact that it is very fast and stable, it has a different design and looks than all the other common ROMs.
I prefer to see something new except that full-light-skinny, etc!
I Would suggest cookers to have a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390543
So i guess we need some new ideas!!!
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I Agree with athanaso..some new ideas like TOM..

I prefer Infido but he's not in the choices nice, essential and fast ROM.
So i voted Bepe

I agree with new stuff and appearance, if they don't affect the overall performance of the device. It's always great to see a new face on our handheld.

batista70 said:
I prefer Infido but he's not in the choices nice, essential and fast ROM.
So i voted Bepe
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I'm sorry about that. I only made the Poll with the top 5 contributors on this board (at least the most recent ones). I also tried a ROM previous to bepe and udK's, but don't know who made it. A friend gave it to me, and it was nice. But I prefer the udK's.
On the bepe's ROM I tried, 0.67 Opera, I had an issue with the Opera installed which didn't let me Zoom In / Zoom Out more than once. It's a fixed Zoom, and sometimes I need to Zoom just a bit and I couldn't. Also tried to install the latest Opera Mobile on that ROM, but couldn't get that feature to work.
Since udK's does not provide Opera browser, when I installed the latest version, it gave me the option to Zoom at will. That was the main reason I stuck with it.
Btw, since you people test a whole lot of ROMs, can you please tell me how do you backup stuff from one to another? I tried to backup email accounts and GPRS connections once, from one ROM to the next one, but couldn't get it to work properly. Is there a tool which is compatible with any ROM?
Thanks.

Voted 4 bepe for the qualtity and the versatility of his ROM.
He has 4 lines of ROM in 5 Languages.
My vote would go to udK cuz the ROM is a lil better than bebe's...but there is only 1 version in only 1 language

yvopt said:
I agree with new stuff and appearance, if they don't affect the overall performance of the device. It's always great to see a new face on our handheld.
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Exactly!

we need a poll? The best udk's rom

UDK's rom is super fast...but I use bepe's simply because I don't like the soft new key and also when you press on the email icon on home screen it goes to messaging and not direct to email like on bepe's rom...Have I know how to change that I'd probably go with UDK's ROM

le55 said:
we need a poll? The best udk's rom
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i vote for this..

The statistics, so far, say otherwise though.
I always wondered why is bepe's ROM Sticky and no one else's is. Anyone have an answer to this?

yvopt said:
The statistics, so far, say otherwise though.
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possibly because bepe's rom was (one of) the first released
yvopt said:
I always wondered why is bepe's ROM Sticky and no one else's is. Anyone have an answer to this?
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same reason

Voted for Aserg
i've tried them all but Aserg's ROM is the fastest and also stable.

yvopt said:
I always wondered why is bepe's ROM Sticky and no one else's is. Anyone have an answer to this?
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Cause bepe has longer history in this forum. He is a well known cooker (from previous devices also) and all XDA community respect that.

The best rom?

I've been doing plenty of research on the forums and it just appears that the best rom, in terms of stability, function, speed and reliability is the Dutty 3.9 XT. Newer versions have some improvements, but with functional setbacks such as sms problems as in 4.3. The new leo roms look fancy, but again they suffer from speed and functionality also! So as a blackstone user and one to show it off to iphone fans, am I right in saying this is one of the few roms we have which is reasonably fast, stable and functional, without coming across an unexpected hickup and the iphone user wins that round!

theres no such thing as perfect ROM
its very personal to what you want to do with your phone and in what way you want to use it and if you want WM 6.1 or WM 6.5 on it,.. especially not to show off to iphone.. i go with Miri's WM 6.5, for me its my favourite, been with it since the beginning, others might thing otherwise, for what its personal
if you worry about iphone users (kids, girls, non-technology knowers most of all) and they got to the point where they dare compare an iphone to a WinMobile phone is enough for you not to waste ur time trying to get in their limited minds,.. let them show off how awesome the iphone is cause it can take pictures, and they autorotate, and how they can access the internet when they are at a wireless hotspot, and that they can access their top 5 favourite websites cause they have a shortcut of each of them on their phone's homepage, and how they have a shortcut for every single thing on their front page for instant access (now isnt that handy, i bet you we all have out PC's desktop FULL of shortcuts ).. so enjoy your phone buddy

well if u want to show off to iphone users. do go for nrg rom's. there are an eye candy, fast and improving (lesser bugs). try photon range of rom's based on 2.1 by nrg

Guys,
I'm wondering, are any 6.5 ROMs as fast as 6.1 ROMs?
Cheers.

PoisonWolf said:
Guys,
I'm wondering, are any 6.5 ROMs as fast as 6.1 ROMs?
Cheers.
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I just tried out Duttythroy's WM6.5+HTC Sence (Manila 2.5) and it was kinda laggy so I went back to Stock ROM WM6.1.

PoisonWolf said:
Guys,
I'm wondering, are any 6.5 ROMs as fast as 6.1 ROMs?
Cheers.
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It depends on the rom. Some of the new ones (with higher build number) are sooo slow, laggy and unstable... For me the most stable and fastest rom is from XannyTech. Haven´t had any problem for now (using a week) and it´s almost fast as stock rom.

Guys,
Thanks. I've actually, for the first time today, started flashing! I can see why it's addicting, but it got tedious after 2 hours of playing around. Windows Mobile 6.5 has a lot of eyecandy in general, but it's not as functional as I'd like it to be right out of the box. I've tried both Photon and Miri roms that come without Manila.
The experience I had with both was "meh".
I'm just going to install Dutty's Final 6.1 ROM and be done with it until I change phones.
Thanks again guys,
Cheers!

Maryone
I am using maryone 230064 manila 2.5 and it is fast and reliable

PoisonWolf said:
Guys,
Thanks. I've actually, for the first time today, started flashing! I can see why it's addicting, but it got tedious after 2 hours of playing around. Windows Mobile 6.5 has a lot of eyecandy in general, but it's not as functional as I'd like it to be right out of the box. I've tried both Photon and Miri roms that come without Manila.
The experience I had with both was "meh".
I'm just going to install Dutty's Final 6.1 ROM and be done with it until I change phones.
Thanks again guys,
Cheers!
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Totally agree.
In regards to the most stable 6.1 ROM, you are right on with the Dutty 3.9XT. I am on 4.3 because I am a Dutty freak. Haven't tried anyone else so I have no other experiences, but 3.9 XT FINAL is exceptional.

trendsbze said:
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Totally agree.
In regards to the most stable 6.1 ROM, you are right on with the Dutty 3.9XT. I am on 4.3 because I am a Dutty freak. Haven't tried anyone else so I have no other experiences, but 3.9 XT FINAL is exceptional.
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Trend,
Is this the same as the one in HTCPEDIA's site? With Dutty's 4.3 Final or something along that lines? Because I used Dutty's 4.3 Final from HTCPedia. Is one better than the other?
Cheers.

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Trend,
Is this the same as the one in HTCPEDIA's site? With Dutty's 4.3 Final or something along that lines? Because I used Dutty's 4.3 Final from HTCPedia. Is one better than the other?
Cheers.
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It should be the same. It came out about the same time when the transition from XDA to HTCpedia was made.

trendsbze said:
It should be the same. It came out about the same time when the transition from XDA to HTCpedia was made.
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Trend,
Thanks! I'm just a little bummed that Dutty's Magic 8 Ball that was ported from Topaz does not work in Dutty's 4.3 Final.
It just starts up, I get the loading screen, and then it just turns off by itself and I am in Manila once more. I don't know if this is a netframework issue or... I was really looking forward to using HTC's 8 Ball.
Might you know anything about this?
Cheers.

PoisonWolf said:
Trend,
Thanks! I'm just a little bummed that Dutty's Magic 8 Ball that was ported from Topaz does not work in Dutty's 4.3 Final.
It just starts up, I get the loading screen, and then it just turns off by itself and I am in Manila once more. I don't know if this is a netframework issue or... I was really looking forward to using HTC's 8 Ball.
Might you know anything about this?
Cheers.
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Can't help on that one, I don't know what is is, a game???. I don't do any games on my phone even though I played with teeter one day and loved it.

Which is - according your opinion - the TOP3 6.5 Roms?

Hi guys, Happy New Year
What exactly the tiitle says: The "top 3" MW 6.5 roms according each opinion.
I have to choose this afternoon for my Touch HD, but i am a little comfuced
I like speedy, smoothly running and unbugy rom's. I am a nobbie.
Thanks a lot. Kisses
spl: 1.56olinex
radio: 1.17.25.09
Sorry for my bad English

Same thing over and over again ''which is the best rom?''.
The only answer you will get is to try as much as you can and see for yourself.
Good luck.

LIA 13.1 Sense 2.5
topix 3.3 Sense 2.1
Haven't tried any of the new Leo 2.02 ROMs, maybe they are getting better and better

berbecverde said:
Same thing over and over again ''which is the best rom?''.
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no "the best rom"...
but 3 roms you like more
Hapy New Year
jldiablo said:
LIA 13.1 Sense 2.5
topix 3.3 Sense 2.1
Haven't tried any of the new Leo 2.02 ROMs, maybe they are getting better and better
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Thanks jldiablo....i will try them next days.
By the way, i like topix 3.3 and miri's roms.

I tried about ...many roms and still do not know which is the best,or why is the best.Sure some opinion is ok. but:
If you get 20 replies to this post with the 3 best roms that is 60 roms.But you can use only 1 on your HD.
So the conclusion is that you should try some roms on your own.
Just my opinion so dont be mad.
By the way i am using now the latest Laurentius rom, which is nice and all but has some things i do not like, just like the other roms around.
Good luck with your poll.

its all down too....
your individual taste and what you want from the rom!
make a list of whats important to you, then go looking at whats on offer
happy searching

Lots of choices and hard to choose
By the way, do you know how disable PIN code on HTC HD?
thanks in advance

FanaticWear said:
Lots of choices and hard to choose
By the way, do you know how disable PIN code on HTC HD?
thanks in advance
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Hi FanaticWear,
try going to Start | Settings | Lock and setting it there.
Regards.

No answerr to this as everyone has different opinions. Just try them yourself and make your own conclusion. Possibly start with this benchmark thread for roms to start with
Thread closed

Where can i find Dutty's ROM?

www.htcpedia.com

Can someone tell me why Duttys ROM's are so popular? they look pretty much standard to me...
Any Dutty fans care to inform me?

cd78 said:
Can someone tell me why Duttys ROM's are so popular? they look pretty much standard to me...
Any Dutty fans care to inform me?
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I flashed my HD2 with different variants og energy roms, and they ran pretty fast, but i most admit dutty's is much faster with no errors..
I have used energy roms since the day that i got my HD2 (dec. 09) but decided 2 weeks ago to try something else..
And what a suprise when i tried dutty's
The whole system runs faster, i don't know why, but probably because energy has tweaked and added to much to his roms these days..
Dutty's rom is as close to standard as you can get, but with everything manila wise updated and testet, plus he must have tweaked the system with other things than pagepool, because it runs so much better than the original (and every other rom i have tried)..
I actually flashed his new multilanguage V3.1 today, and i'm not dissapointet!
Try it and you will see what i mean..
If people need another link to download from than htcpedia.com, i have uploaded the danish version to shareonline.dk. But i must point out that i only uploaded the danish version to my site.. So it will probably not be worth anything for most people

cd78 said:
Can someone tell me why Duttys ROM's are so popular? they look pretty much standard to me...
Any Dutty fans care to inform me?
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Ill tell you why because i updated last night and message sent notification gone thats good enough for me,
in all fairness i usually mix between energy and dutty, i prefer dutty just fast basic ROM and very nice no problems at all

[ROM]ROM_TG01_Clone_HD2_Tmous_WWE Update rel.2

The new ROM based WM 6.5.3 and stock apps HD2 Tmous Update rel.2​
Hi!
Provides users XDA my ROM.
Current version
ROM_TG01_Clone_HD2_Tmous_rel.2
Date: 19 Martch 2011
Version Radio: 5005.1600.05
Build version: WM 6.5.3 5.2.21689.5312 Windows CE: 5.2 Build 3599 (6 January 2011 г. 15:44:02)
Bugs fixed scan memory cards, searching for music and documents, optimized xip.
Screenshots HERE
Download rel.2
OLD version
ROM_TG01_Clone_HD2_Tmous
Date: 17 Martch 2011
Version Radio: 5005.1600.05
Build version: WM 6.5.3 5.2.21689.5312 Windows CE: 5.2 Build 3599 (6 January 2011 г. 15:44:02)
Detailed description:
I'm have not pursued the goal of maximum achieved a huge amount of RAM, original goal was to cook the ROM retaining maximum functionality of the device software and HD2. Make a clone of Dolly the sheep
Free RAM: ~ 85 mb
Free ROM: ~ 252 mb
Remove ROM: Autoupadate,DRM,Enterprise,FWUPDATE-replaced by the package mini,IPSECVPN,Livesearch,SampleMusic,SqlCeMobile,SQM-replaced by the package mini,VoIP,WelcomeCenter,WindowsLive,WMWidgets, turn off unnecessary services, standard keyboard MS, standard task manager MS, 3D Toshiba Menu, keyboard Toshiba, OEM cleared of debris operators and soft TG01.
Added ROM: Sence_2019, Phone Canvas Dialer, InCallrecorder (records from the telephone line) HD, SIM Manager HTC, Facebook HTC, Twiter, MS My Phone, Marketplace, Teeter games, Google Maps, RSS Hub (work), YouTube, StreamingMedia, Voice Recorder, MP3 Trimmer, HTC Calc, Comm manager, Java, Adobe LE, Resco Explorer, Task Manager FDC 3.3, Task Switch FDK, Utask, Rotate, HTC EzInput 2.1, GPS Driver to ComPort.
Special thanks to:
1. Barin for perfect rom-building tool and a lot of friendly advices
2. Cedesmith for cool TGtool program
3. Alexx~ for friendly support
4. AndrewSh for package HD2 Tmous
Thanks.
Enjoy
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Please keep the feedback.

you are famous, my friend! this ROM seems a OVERKILL!
you are so good for ME, and for our "little" tg01 family!

mirolg said:
you are famous, my friend! this ROM seems a OVERKILL!
you are so good for ME, and for our "little" tg01 family!
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Thanks my friend....
There are still reserves for TG01, to dig a new kernel and OEM

i´m over download
... one suggestion for your famous ROMs can you XDA_UC cooking in? much, i too, love this feature!
...rss feed works too

feropont said:
Thanks my friend....
There are still reserves for TG01, to dig a new kernel and OEM
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i said you are a Jewel for us! your tamplates + oskitchen the best OF the best tools.

Yes excellent work, sadly i only have 5 thanks a day to give, but as soon as i get more i will give thanks for another great release

Fantast!ic Feropont! Thanks! if you dont mind, it will be nice if you cooked a HD2 clone apps onto your clean 6.1 ROM then we have at least ~100mb RAM That will be great! I love this new trend if all HTC apps cooked in If you also have the time, it would be cool if you cooked a HTC Touch HD_Clone_ROM on 6.1 that will be great touchflo 1.3 + all apps from the Blackstone
Thanks for all you have done for the community Feropont, you are VERY talented! keep it up!

olyloh6696 said:
Fantast!ic Feropont! Thanks! if you dont mind, it will be nice if you cooked a HD2 clone apps onto your clean 6.1 ROM then we have at least ~100mb RAM That will be great! I love this new trend if all HTC apps cooked in If you also have the time, it would be cool if you cooked a HTC Touch HD_Clone_ROM on 6.1 that will be great touchflo 1.3 + all apps from the Blackstone
Thanks for all you have done for the community Feropont, you are VERY talented! keep it up!
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6.1 Stock Rhodium suits you?

feropont said:
6.1 Stock Rhodium suits you?
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Yeh!!! you are the ROM machine! You could create a new breed of ROMs! 'Feroponts_HTC_Clone_ROM' editions
HTC Touch Pro (Rhodium) Touchflo 3D 2.0 + 6.1 ROM will be fantastic!
Cheers! you've made me love my TG01 more! <3

mirolg said:
i said you are a Jewel for us! your tamplates + oskitchen the best OF the best tools.
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I saw my friend, I thought about the community TG01, during the year in the same place it was, an average of 80MB of RAM and 270mb ROM.... it was sad
It was necessary to take urgent measures to find hidden reserves TG01. I hope that I managed to
olyloh6696 said:
Yeh!!! you are the ROM machine! You could create a new breed of ROMs! 'Feroponts_HTC_Clone_ROM' editions
HTC Touch Pro (Rhodium) Touchflo 3D 2.0 + 6.1 ROM will be fantastic!
Cheers! you've made me love my TG01 more! <3
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I think that, I'm will be able to implement and cook after the weekend....

feropont said:
I saw my friend, I thought about the community TG01, during the year in the same place it was, an average of 80MB of RAM and 270mb ROM.... it was sad
It was necessary to take urgent measures to find hidden reserves TG01. I hope that I managed to
I think that, I'm will be able to implement and cook after the weeken....
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Thanks Feropont! i look forward to it!!
HTC TouchFlo 3D 2.0/2.1 + WM6.1 = Best thing ever!!
Take care, Feropont my friend

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Take care, Feropont my friend
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Thanks my friend
I will try

feropont said:
Thanks my friend
I will try
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sorry limited to 5 thanks per day

installing your Rom
I feel embarrassed to ask but I have never installed a Rom before on my TG01- apart from Toshiba's WM6.5 upgrade. This Rom looks like the one for me but I guess I will still have to install gpsgate after to make TomTom work. Opera also, shame flash is still a problem..
Anyway, I'm not too keen on using the piece of wire method as I see some people have permanently bricked their phone so please could you, with some patience and in plain simple steps, tell how to install from a memory card

f513toy said:
I feel embarrassed to ask but I have never installed a Rom before on my TG01- apart from Toshiba's WM6.5 upgrade. This Rom looks like the one for me but I guess I will still have to install gpsgate after to make TomTom work. Opera also, shame flash is still a problem..
Anyway, I'm not too keen on using the piece of wire method as I see some people have permanently bricked their phone so please could you, with some patience and in plain simple steps, tell how to install from a memory card
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welcome to your flsh premier! read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10444420&postcount=2
... has nothing to do wth shortpin- Method! good look!

My first flashed Rom - I feel like a new father
I was like an expectant father watching my TG01 giving birth to a new interface, pacing the floor, checking the screen and then it happened.
Thanks for pointing me to the idiots guide to flashing, I'll see how this Rom works out and maybe try a couple of more out until I find the one that works for me.

f513toy said:
I was like an expectant father watching my TG01 giving birth to a new interface, pacing the floor, checking the screen and then it happened.
Thanks for pointing me to the idiots guide to flashing, I'll see how this Rom works out and maybe try a couple of more out until I find the one that works for me.
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Welcome to the Flashing Fever!. Be careful, my friend, it's addictive

f513toy said:
I was like an expectant father watching my TG01 giving birth to a new interface, pacing the floor, checking the screen and then it happened.
Thanks for pointing me to the idiots guide to flashing, I'll see how this Rom works out and maybe try a couple of more out until I find the one that works for me.
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Mate make sure you hard reset after EVERY ROM flash. It doesn't say it everywhere, but this is like making sure you have dry nappies on the baby

Hello Feropont
Same reply than my other TG01's friends :
YOU ARE THE BEST OF THE BEST
You have find 1rst :
==> GPS drivers package
==> New Kitchen
==> RAM and ROM Optimization !!!
And you share all you find !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I repeat but I think for all the TG01 community :
YOU ARE THE BEST OF THE BEST
Have a good day my friend !!! ...... An the other too of course

Good rom but miss few basic thing like how connect to operator setting? no download possible!
not able sent messages or connect internet without this