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Hi all,
I've just got my HD2 this morning. I'm having a problem when trying to create an SMS by replying from the text messages tab.
This particular contact has around 500 messages and pressing 'reply' takes more than 20 seconds before even the onscreen keyboard to load for me to type the reply. I've tried other contacts with less messages, whilst it is quick, there is still a noticeable lag to load all of the previous messages.
Is anyone else having this problem?
Yes. The contacts/text messaging app seems to suffer from a lot of slowdown. I also have the feeling it's linked to the number of messages for each contact.
Saving a contact after editing can be slow as well.
I did a bit of a search...looks like this is a problem with the HTC messaging app in Manila 2.5 ..... sigh........ such a fundamental problem!
Too many people complain about SMS issues. SMS functionality should be one of the very first tests you do to a modern mobile device during Q.A.
At least its still good to know that I'll be able to speak with it.
Same here. Too slow..
Here the same problem. Can somebody make a fix for it please?
Delete all the SMS history with the contact who is taking long for the keyboard to load up.
The reason for this slowdown is that it is loading all your SMS messages with that contact, both sent and received. Hence it takes ages to load up.
1. Go to the SMS screen for your slow-loading contact, wait for it to load
2. Press 'Menu'
3. Press 'Delete Messages'
4. Press 'Menu'
5. Press 'Select All'
6. Press 'Done'
Where is the snapdragon?
man I need to get this Phone,but this seems to be the first real let down ,I use lots of SMS and to me deleting is not an option.
Must be found a work around.
HTC definately rushed this ROM.
The calendar bug, the spelling mistake in the connections settings, apparently the speed is slower than the test ROMs, and now this.
Well the only thing that lags with Touch HD on wm6.5 with Manila 2.5 is the HTC SMS.. That what made be believe I should upgrade my device to HD2. Now that I see that the device is also lagging with a dozen of SMSs... Thanks but I will not buy it unless a solution is found. I have more than 2500 work SMS all business related and I CANT FIND A REASON TO DELETE IT.
DIDNT THEY TRY THE DEVICE BEFORE SELLING IT??
EVEN A NOKIA 3310 CAN STORE 500+ SMS !!
Yes a nokia can store that many text, but they arent in a chat type session, thats why it takes so long because it loads all of them in one hit.
loomx said:
Yes a nokia can store that many text, but they arent in a chat type session, thats why it takes so long because it loads all of them in one hit.
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Even with Thread mode off and normal SMS display, it is very slow. Try restoring 200 SMS, it will takes 10 mins. Re-access your SMS menu, you will still lag as hell.
Cannot forgive them for making such a mistake.
was going to get it today
My non HTC device loaded with + 250 messages opens the SMS app.in 2 sec. Replying and bringing up the keyboard is almost from instantaneous to 1 sec,but I need to get a WM phone.
Just one question though:
Will this lag still happen if you Disable the HTC Sence UI and went with the WM 6.5 interface?
I've found a workaround for now..
Use the HTC Messaging app in traditional mode. From there, you could reply SMSes using the non-threaded mode. Once it loads, it's pretty quick to open again.
Still..the major lag is still there when you open a contact with many text messages....this is very dissapointing and could even be a dealbreaker for a few people.
Even my TD1 with Manila 2.1 doesn't have this problem.
hagba said:
Will this lag still happen if you Disable the HTC Sence UI and went with the WM 6.5 interface?
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NO! the problem it's just in senseUI
In the meantime, let your providers and htc know (mail). htc need to release a proper fix for this.
Manila 2.1 on my TP2 did`t have this problem at all.
To be honest .... 2.5 Manila messaging is crap!
I know this isn't an ideal solution, but it'll do for me (for now), and I'm sure some others will be happy enough with it as a temporary fix.
Use Microsoft MyPhone to get all your texts uploaded and then archive them using the web interface. You can then delete as many as you like off the phone and still be happy that you've got a backup online.
Not a solution, but a reasonable workround for now.
Edit: I can confirm that this works. I went to the MyPhone web interface and archived all my text messages. Then I synched from my mobile and it deleted all the local texts that I had archived (in this case, all of them). I can now edit and select contacts with only a slight lag. It's still a crap amount of lag for such a fast phone, but it's a lot better.
They should do like on the iPhone: when you chat with a contact, you get the last 10-15 messages of the thread. If you want to read older messages you press a button on top of the thread that will then show all the others.
+1!! I do think too that it's the obvious solution!!!! Why the hello do HTC's SMS apps display the full thread of SMS's on their app, it's pretty much useless, and causes lags!!! The last 10 sms's like in Outlokk or on the iPhone is enough!
I don't know what the hell HTC's devs are thinking sometimes....
Dear all
bought my HD2 sim-free and have been using it for 1-2 days now.
it is manila 2.5.19211619.0 & rom 1.48.405.2 (71294)WWE
while we wait for HTC to allow us to use our GBP500 handsets to send SMS reliably, I thought I'd compile a list of other problems with the new HTC messaging interface - perhaps if anybody from HTC is reading, they could use it as a sort of wish-list. Feel free to add your own woes.
also, if anybody knows any fixes for the behaviour i am reporting here - please let me know!!
1. It sometimes doesn't send SMS (well-known issue, sure - texting myself seems to do the trick so far but hardly ideal to have to check outbox every half hour)
2. It cannot mark received/read SMS as unread (if i'm wrong here, please let me know)
3. it is difficult to select a whole bunch of messages - you ought to be able to hold down and drag to select, say, adjacent 5 messages in the "all msgs" view, in order to then action them (eg. retry send ! )
4. in all messages view, the side-scrolling bar does not enlarge itself after a short tap, unlike in eg. file explorer.
5. when you are composing a new SMS, as you start typing letters of somebody's name, some of the contact suggestions are associated with that person's mobile number (as expected) whereas other contacts are suggested with their *email address* (even when you have the mobile number for that contact) so that it tries to send the SMS to that person's email address. Not very clever. if anybody knows how to fix this please let me know.
6. if you use PIM backup to restore eg. 500 SMS, you may mysteriously find the following day that many of them have disappeared. spooky.
7. it (HTC messaging) is so arrogant that it provides no easy way for the user to revert to WM SMS program. not very "make it mine" is it HTC?
8. (thanks to DavrosMackenzie below for reminding me) what a WEIRD bug - when you attempt to put a ! or ? at the end of your cursor when composing SMS, the cursor reverts to a random point in the message and your punctuation mark is in the middle of some random word.
UPDATE: I have sent the above 8 items to HTC support via email on their website.
9. there is no "SMS sent" notification as there was in eg. WM5.0
Largely speaking I only see 7) as the issue. If the Windows messaging app were easily available then you'd simply be able to choose between a flawless functional app versus stylish but primitive.
However personally I still haven't found a way to revert the the Windows messenger app, all the methods I've found here on the forum fail to work fully. So then I guess I'm stuck too with the other points mentioned. It's all ostly minor to me except 1) of course. If I need to any more complicated message organizing I just do it through the MS My Phone web interface and sync.
Also 4) is a feature not a bug The expanding scroll bars are only for the default native controls which need to be dragged themselves, hence the expanding button for easy finger usage. The HTC scrollbar doesn't need that as the whole screen reacts to a sliding finger for scrolling the view.
The inconsistency is a bit odd I suppose but that's what happens when your on an evolved platform rather than a new one.
thanks for the LIST, have you send it to HTC yet?
I have been bugging them about the SMS stuck in outbox issue every 2nd day ...
you also missed out the SLOW loading SMS while there are more than 20 sms-s in coversation view.~
hmm...for me its the no. 4 which is a bit irritating but i can live with it...since in my case it shows both the number as well the email for the same name...
btw...i know this works for some people and for some dont, but messaging problem seems to go away if you select
1. GSM in messaging
2. put the local mesaging centre number...
havent faceda any sms problem till now...
Instead of using pim backup you should use the sync application microsoft my phone....
Lag when opening messages, we all know about that though.
This one i've only seen one other person mention and thats when i come to put a ! or ? at the end the cursor jumps to some random point in the message, basically means i have proof read every damn message and its starting to really annoy me.
I've an un-branded Vodaphone device thanks to mobiles.co.uk and have upgraded the ROM from the 1.43 through to 1.61 and this nagging little bug has been present in all.
The predictive text has become alot better, to the point now where i can write txts much quicker but the other problems make txtsing a nightmare compared to the iPhone.
I was so pissed off with the iPhone by the end of my run with it but it could text like a dream compared with this, i miss my apps sure but if the texting would work on the HD2 i wouldn't be considering moving back!
Not giving up yet though, will wait for a few more ROMS to come out and maybe HardSPL.
uccoffee said:
thanks for the LIST, have you send it to HTC yet?
I have been bugging them about the SMS stuck in outbox issue every 2nd day ...
you also missed out the SLOW loading SMS while there are more than 20 sms-s in coversation view.~
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the slow sms loading buggs me. i have alot of text messages with my girl and It's annoying to everytime wait a minnit or so. also if you push the soft key menu and wait a second It's loads alot faster.
you may aspect from htc with a phone that costs a fortune it would be near perfect. but this one is nearly done. and dont come with the excuse that no phone is good out of the box, i know that but after al the tweaking i have done to this phone im getting the hang of it. but there are more bugs that anoy me.
1 slow downs in the sense interface.
2. the jittering of the keyboard.
3. the ghost typed key issue
4. and all the minor things what are to many to name.
well htc thank-you for this wonderfull phone. now make it mine.....
btw, could someone tell me where i can find the outbox for the sms utility?
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the slow sms loading buggs me. i have alot of text messages with my girl and It's annoying to everytime wait a minnit or so. also if you push the soft key menu and wait a second It's loads alot faster.
you may aspect from htc with a phone that costs a fortune it would be near perfect. but this one is nearly done. and dont come with the excuse that no phone is good out of the box, i know that but after al the tweaking i have done to this phone im getting the hang of it. but there are more bugs that anoy me.
1 slow downs in the sense interface.
2. the jittering of the keyboard.
3. the ghost typed key issue
4. and all the minor things what are to many to name.
well htc thank-you for this wonderfull phone. now make it mine.....
btw, could someone tell me where i can find the outbox for the sms utility?
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To view your outbox, you need to have SMS in traditional mode.
Go to: All mesages > Menu > Settings > Traditional Mode.
Has anyone found a fix for this fundamental function of any phone. And we all know this is not a problem with WM6.5 as alot of us have been using 6.5 for some time (myself on my polaris, using Kostas ROM), so therefore HTC really F#@K this up.
I have another one, the sms notification sound almost never gets activated... I am on 1.43 O2.
Most of the time I have to click "compose new text" when in converstional mode at least 10 times before it actually lets my type! It doesn't matter how many messages I have with that contact so isn't a lag thing!
blackheart2925 said:
hmm...for me its the no. 4 which is a bit irritating but i can live with it...since in my case it shows both the number as well the email for the same name...
btw...i know this works for some people and for some dont, but messaging problem seems to go away if you select
1. GSM in messaging
2. put the local mesaging centre number...
havent faceda any sms problem till now...
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I got GSM in messaging, and +xxx in the messaging number.
But I still get SMS stuck in outbox every couple of days ...
HTC Messaging is not working with MMS to email. The pictures doesn't have a last name (extension), and will not be reconiced as an .jpg, and therefore not show in correctly.
Larsen
When I create an SMS and enter the first few letters of a contacts name, all available phone numbers for that person are listed. However, the icons indicating the type of contact number (work, mobile, home, etc.) are incorrect. All are displayed as mobile so I do not know which is the actual mobile number and which are the others. Is this the same for everyone else? I've reflashed to 1.48 and installed the SMS patch from HTC.
hey guys, so i got my tmobile usa hd2 a week ago and so far its been okay, the phone is so beautiful i love the built quality and the sense UI, BUTTTT the sms lags soo bad sometimes, especially when i have a text message coming in, i restart the phone 1 or 2 times a day it sucks.. i wish i could just use the STOCK windows sms threading style when you disable sense.. :/ any fixes for the lag? or is just windows being windows? im kinda being pulled towards returning it and getting the nexus one..hmm
Hello,
I do not have any lag at all.
2 things I suggest:
delete conversations when you are done
clear all deleted items
Thank you,
Monnie
yeah but i shouldnt have to delete all my conversations tho :/ i mean this thing has 3 times the hardware my touch pro has and it never crashed (i dont have touch flo on) bc of the texts unless i had 6k plus texts in my inbox. lol
ryan74701 said:
yeah but i shouldnt have to delete all my conversations tho :/ i mean this thing has 3 times the hardware my touch pro has and it never crashed (i dont have touch flo on) bc of the texts unless i had 6k plus texts in my inbox. lol
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Try the Zenyee Messaging Cab (search XDA; it's posted EVERYWHERE!) to disable HTC Messaging and re-enable WM Messaging.
I don't know if anyone tried it with the stock T-Mo HD2 ROM yet, so I don't know what the results will be like. Just don't blame me if your phone explodes and plunges us into a world war.
lolol thanks
sumflipnol said:
Try the Zenyee Messaging Cab (search XDA; it's posted EVERYWHERE!) to disable HTC Messaging and re-enable WM Messaging.
I don't know if anyone tried it with the stock T-Mo HD2 ROM yet, so I don't know what the results will be like. Just don't blame me if your phone explodes and plunges us into a world war.
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I just installed Zenyee's cab, and the SMS messaging doesn't have a conversation/threaded view. It's the old 6.1 view, but outlook messaging has conversation vew. Am I missing something? I like the threaded view.
Are you sure the windows messaging client isnt threaded? I may be mistaken but I think that when I disable Sense, my messages are still threaded.
davsug said:
I just installed Zenyee's cab, and the SMS messaging doesn't have a conversation/threaded view. It's the old 6.1 view, but outlook messaging has conversation vew. Am I missing something? I like the threaded view.
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The "old 6.1" (WM messaging) client should have the conversation/threaded view. On the top right of the screen there should be a drop-down arrow. Press it and choose either "received" or "conversation".
I have those settings...and I'm using a ROM with the WM messaging client.
hello,
i have a problem and some other users i know too. if i have more then
50+ sms on an contact, my hd2 just works really slow. i need up to
30 seconds before i can write a new sms to this person...
do you know a alternative sms program which i can use on the
communications tab? or can i use the Windows program for this without
deactivating sense? Can i bind this to the normal tab?
used search function already
best regards
don_sefer
I have the same problem and now i don't have more by 30 msg and it's fast.
Never experienced this problem. I'm on CleanEX 1.x (based on HTC 1.72, WM6.5). Perhaps this makes the difference?
Check this thread out, might be of interest http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614 - Disabling HTC messaging
daemonfly said:
Check this thread out, might be of interest http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614 - Disabling HTC messaging
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ive not several hundred messages and no issues so take note of the^^
don_sefer said:
hello,
i have a problem and some other users i know too. if i have more then
50+ sms on an contact, my hd2 just works really slow. i need up to
30 seconds before i can write a new sms to this person...
do you know a alternative sms program which i can use on the
communications tab? or can i use the Windows program for this without
deactivating sense? Can i bind this to the normal tab?
used search function already
best regards
don_sefer
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Yeah, same here! Newer Roms kinda make this problem less bad. Get at least the newest 1.72 from HTC. IT's noticably better than the older Roms.
But: somehow the problem does not get worse with even more messages. I used to have around 2000 texts on my phone (yes, thousands) and it's just as slow as with 50.
I have been a long time user of PhoneLog which logs all calls and sms messages into your calendar. Excellent app.
The only issue is that with 6.5.5 /Sense 2 it does not seem to log SMS's anymore
Does anyone have a similar app. It logs it in real time and ends up on my work calendar via Exchange active sync.
im not familar with anything personally, but it sounds like a cool idea and i would be interested to know aswell.
by the way... are you using the HTC Messaging Client or the stock WinMo one? i wonder if that would make any difference to the performance of PhoneLog.
Its a thought.
Messages are still finally stored in the Winmo messaging client. The HTC one is just a skin however the phonelogs triggers may be blocked by HTC.
working
Can this cab and it seems to be working again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614
Thanks for the tip lamensterms
you say 'can' this .CAB? do you mean trash/ditch the .CAB, or use that .CAB?
ha ha, im not trying to be a jerk... just not sure if you had a typo or not.
i do use that .CAB seeing as i couldnt agree with the HTC client.
glad you got it going, now i think ill have to check PhoneLog out.
cheers.
Typo. Cab worked fine.
Phone log = http://www.infinityball.com/phonelog/
Now is logging incoming messages but not outgoing.
I have tried using threaded view or single message view. Same issue. Better thou.
Also Sense now fails to acknowledge that the sms has been read. That might be a deal breaker.
Is there a util which can back up messages to calendar once a day/week?
Also Sense now fails to acknowledge that the sms has been read.
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while using the stock WM sms client... it is a know issue for Sense to keep displaying the notification bubble on the SMS tab. i experience this problem very rarely (so rarely that it is hardly a problem for me). i think it might have been discussed in the thread where you retrieved zenyee's .CAB, but i cannot remember for sure.
Is there a util which can back up messages to calendar once a day/week?
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after some quick google "research"... it seems there are other apps similar to phonelog available for blackberry and android... but phonelog may be the only one of its kind for WM.
here is a request on another (microsoft) forum - http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/outlook/thread/66e9160d-46ed-452c-91fa-6f3a6a88f86d
there are other folk out there who share your request. maybe some further integration could be on the horizon.
let me know how you go with HTC messaging VS WINMO.
cheers.