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Disable Recent Appications List and 7 Start Programs Limit in WM6

This is really a general WM6 question, but I have a XV6800 so i thought I would post it here.
How do you disable the recent applications/history in your start menu? All I want in the start menu, EVER, is the programs I have checked off in the Start Menu Settings section, and I never want it to keep a list of recently opened applications.
Also, how do you get rid of the "7" programs limit in the start menu? I need like 9 or 10 there (plus they will fit just fine on the home screen since I am disabling recent aplications)
Thanks.

i would recommend getting a start bar replacement like wisbar, that will let you do a lot more customizing. its what i use and i love it.

nope, i need registry tweak/hacks on how to do it. i am not going to install more ram-sucking software when it can be done natively in shell, i just dont know how.
-connor

Recent Programs
Hi
I have been looking for a solution for the recent program List
One solution is (i use this now) create another folder in your "windows\Start Menu\XYZ" and copy all (But 1) shortcuts from "windows\Start Menu\PROGRAMS" to "windows\Start Menu\XYZ" And your recent list wont be populated.
As for the limitation of 6 in the start Menu. I did not need to change that so i would not know if you find a solution i would like to know. And besides as other people mention yes WA is a good option.
AL

almerchant said:
Hi
I have been looking for a solution for the recent program List
One solution is (i use this now) create another folder in your "windows\Start Menu\XYZ" and copy all (But 1) shortcuts from "windows\Start Menu\PROGRAMS" to "windows\Start Menu\XYZ" And your recent list wont be populated.
As for the limitation of 6 in the start Menu. I did not need to change that so i would not know if you find a solution i would like to know. And besides as other people mention yes WA is a good option.
AL
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Hi,
You copy/dulpicate all the programs into XYZ except one? which one? Anyone? And do you have to delete the Programs folder after copying?
Thanks!

only ones ive used
these are the only solutions i have found. the app the one guy on this thread made works great, but only on soft-resets
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=251164

HTC Sense must support custom/homebrew widgets!!!

Imagine...
HTC Sense with your own widgets.
HTC sense already includes the following:
Home, SMS, Mail, Weather, Twitter, Footprints, Settings, and more.
But what if they would finally made it possible to let us make our own widgets?
This would seriously beat the crap our every other phone!
We would have:
Radio, ebay, MusicID, Newspapers, webcam view, translator and alot more.
Or a simple "Applications" Tab, where we find another bar with more tabs for putting apps into "folders"(tabs).
Its real sad htc have not made a SDK, or other kind of function to create our own tabs.
I personally think HTC sense is the best UI out there. the best i have seen on any mobile phone, but lacks the ability to customize it ourselfs.
Is it possible to hack the Sense UI to make this possible? (if someone can do this im happy to donate about 20 dollars, and i think more people are)
If not, we should make a large email, or online voting system to anyways draw the attention of HTC as a large company.
And yes, i know the other UI's available for windows mobile. But HTC sense is just....quietly brilliant

it seems to be possible to add new bars to the sense / touch flo.
as you can see when you use the manila tv player!
i think people should just start designing their apps for it, and maybe some experienced dev. could give an short tut how to find what you need to fasten the development

brandi said:
it seems to be possible to add new bars to the sense / touch flo.
as you can see when you use the manila tv player!
i think people should just start designing their apps for it, and maybe some experienced dev. could give an short tut how to find what you need to fasten the development
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Just imagine the Applications tab i was talking about, what will include another bar with tabs to go to your ownmade categorie.
This will simply be........PERFECT!
sorry im real trilling about this.

borgqueenx said:
Just imagine the Applications tab i was talking about, what will include another bar with tabs to go to your ownmade categorie.
This will simply be........PERFECT!
sorry im real trilling about this.
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Can I just make a small suggestion?
Wait until you get the phone and have used it for a while before wanting to make lots of changes on it.

johncmolyneux said:
Can I just make a small suggestion?
Wait until you get the phone and have used it for a while before wanting to make lots of changes on it.
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still a hard choice to make between my 3gs and HD2. But if its possible to add ownmade tabs, and there are some to download, i will have my choice made in 1 second

borgqueenx said:
still a hard choice to make between my 3gs and HD2. But if its possible to add ownmade tabs, and there are some to download, i will have my choice made in 1 second
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Okay, I'll make it a simple choice for you then.
No, you cannot currently add your own tabs to the Sense UI. It may become possible in the future, but it is highly unlikely, and the most likely event is that you get 1 or 2 additions to the tabs, but not something that you specifically want.
If you want either your iPhone or customizable tabs on the HD2, stick with your iPhone.

johncmolyneux said:
Okay, I'll make it a simple choice for you then.
No, you cannot currently add your own tabs to the Sense UI. It may become possible in the future, but it is highly unlikely, and the most likely event is that you get 1 or 2 additions to the tabs, but not something that you specifically want.
If you want either your iPhone or customizable tabs on the HD2, stick with your iPhone.
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so you dont want this to happen? Thats what this thread is about after all.
And there are alot other things im considering.
i was just saying my choice would be easy if this was already possible.

borgqueenx said:
so you dont want this to happen? Thats what this thread is about after all.
And there are alot other things im considering.
i was just saying my choice would be easy if this was already possible.
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Personally, I don't have any interest in this happening. Since I can have lots of apps running at the same time and flick between them with a couple of clicks, it's actually easier to do that than it would be to put everything on the Sense UI.
Also, the Start menu is always 1 simple button click away, and that has everything on the phone listed.
I just don't think that this is a big deal.

It is possible, there's just no SDK, so it is complicated.If you want an SDK, please turn to HTC.
Personally, I don't use Sense at all, so I would not want that people develop pages for Sense instead of real WM applications.
I use the WM Default interface and TaskFacade to switch between open programs, which is much more convenient than scrolling through HTC Sense tabs, at least for me.
And by the way, if you need a reason to switch to the HD2, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsQHRtUtW0c&feature=player_embedded
That alone is enough of a reason to switch.

freyberry said:
It is possible, there's just no SDK, so it is complicated.If you want an SDK, please turn to HTC.
Personally, I don't use Sense at all, so I would not want that people develop pages for Sense instead of real WM applications.
I use the WM Default interface and TaskFacade to switch between open programs, which is much more convenient than scrolling through HTC Sense tabs, at least for me.
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well as i said i like the sense feel, theme and Gui the most of all things i have tried on all phones.
And im not talking about task switching here but improving htc sense by adding custom tabs.
i like the windows mobile default interface for task switching, but i will use HTC sense for launching a app, and watching the weather, twitter, newspapers, TV, and many stuff like that, if it was possible.
I found Max Manilla makes customizing the HTC sense possible a bit, but not completly. Il try contacting him but i think its gonna be hard to implent.

As I said, you can add your own tabs, there's just no SDK to make it easy.
Look at stuff like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508102
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563150
And I really don't see any advantage in scrolling through Manila tabs instead of going to the start menu (e.g. to open the news application).
I think showaco is someone who knows how to make Manila pages.

freyberry said:
As I said, you can add your own tabs, there's just no SDK to make it easy.
Look at stuff like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508102
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563150
And I really don't see any advantage in scrolling through Manila tabs instead of going to the start menu (e.g. to open the news application).
I think showaco is someone who knows how to make Manila pages.
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thanks you have any more?
I'l try to contact showac to learn how
Thanks again.

The TV tab is one I can think of, and it's under active development afaik: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534185

It would be so great to have one page where all your programs were. Where you could organize them in folders and launch widgets from. We totally need to make this happen.
Oh wait, anyone ever hear of THE START MENU? It's faster than sliding to a Manila tab and has more functionality in one location.

Nagrom Nniuq said:
It would be so great to have one page where all your programs were. Where you could organize them in folders and launch widgets from. We totally need to make this happen.
Oh wait, anyone ever hear of THE START MENU? It's faster than sliding to a Manila tab and has more functionality in one location.
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And it doesnt fit with the design. Yes, i care about beauty and design.

Starting a program is definately not the same, as if the information you r lookin for was directly shown in a sense tab. Its not just the look but also the feeling, that it is somehow integrated in your home screen and you dont have to start a program for that (always hated the app-binded UI on iphone). But the major factor is, that sense-functionalities might be connected with each other (p.ex. calendar and home-tab, footprints and album), which has not been done too well yet .
In my opinion it would for example just be nice to have a newspaper-tab where you can slide through different newspapers (like the accounts in email-tab) with a little overview of whats inside today, tap to chose one and scroll through the articles, be notified if theres somethin you are interested in and so on...
But i also have to state, that i am already quite happy with sense as it is and that wishes like these might be too far away...

I hope many new tabs will be created in the future.

I just need one more tab that list current running programs. So i don't have to press any buttons.

ahdai said:
I just need one more tab that list current running programs. So i don't have to press any buttons.
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meh thats where i want to use the normal windows tak switcher for.
I´d like a tab with applications, that includes another bar with more tabs for categories.

Here's your solution... sort of: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616415
That creates a Manila tab where you can add any standard Windows Mobile today screen plugins (like RSS readers etc.).

newbie.. with tp2 (need some help with theme setings)

I like a look of my stock tp2 (with WinMo 6.5) but there are 2 things I would like to change:
1. When I tap start I don’t want my background to change to something predefined.
2. To change the experience of clock i.e. transparent background with white numbers.
Can somebody direct me where to look?

forster said:
I like a look of my stock tp2 (with WinMo 6.5) but there are 2 things I would like to change:
1. When I tap start I don’t want my background to change to something predefined.
2. To change the experience of clock i.e. transparent background with white numbers.
Can somebody direct me where to look?
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1. Open Windows Pictures & Videos program, find the picture you want as your Start Menu Background, Once you found the one you want click and open it, then click on the menu button, then there will be an option to "Set as Home Background" select it and follow the prompts and your all done
2. As far as this goes, this requires some various mods and tweaks...not sure exactly what you are asking for...but this depends on what your phone is running and that tells you what mods you can install...do some searching and reading

acidbath5546, thank you for a fast reply.
Well, I would like clock like this one in attachment, with weather forecast of course. I hope that changing clock won’t require flashing the phone.
My phone is running stock Win 6.5 rom. The phone is 1 weak old.... I trayed reading and searching..but in every theme there are 50 + pages of posts...Hard to find explanation, when i dont understand even a term "manila", as far as i'm concerned Manila is the capital of the Philippines.
Im not afraid of tweeking, but only if i know what im looking for.

forster said:
acidbath5546, thank you for a fast reply.
Well, I would like clock like this one in attachment, with weather forecast of course. I hope that changing clock won’t require flashing the phone.
My phone is running stock Win 6.5 rom. The phone is 1 weak old.... I trayed reading and searching..but in every theme there are 50 + pages of posts...Hard to find explanation, when i dont understand even a term "manila", as far as i'm concerned Manila is the capital of the Philippines.
Im not afraid of tweeking, but only if i know what im looking for.
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LOL...Not a problem man
We were all afraid of tweaking at one point.
From what you said you are looking for a clock that also has the weather update inside of it. That is found only in custom ROMS.
It is a version of TouchFlo3D that is called "Sense 2.1 or Sense 2.5" you will also see it said as "Manila 2.1 w/Sense and 2.5".
If you want a good place to read about all this stuff, there is a great site/blog that has everything in one central place, it helped me a lot back when I had an HTC Fuze, and there is one just for the HTC TP2
See here:
http://tilt2.blownfuze.org/
So if you really really wanted that clock and some cooler stuff, you would have to flash a "Custom ROM".
If you need any more help or want my opinion feel free to send me a private message/PM and I will help if I can.

acidbath5546, you wouldnt belive how helpfull your answer was!
Thank you very much!!!!

forster said:
acidbath5546, you wouldnt belive how helpfull your answer was!
Thank you very much!!!!
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No problem at aall man
As far as your PM about how to find your Manila Version....
I dont really remember that much about your Stock/Regular version, been awhile since I used it.
But if you slide you slider all the way to the settings tab, there should be a selection that says "About Phone" or software info or something like that, that you can click on.
But after seeing your ROM version you sent me, you have an older/standat version of regular Manila 2.1, NOT SENSE manila 2.1, which is what you are looking for, with the weather forecast clock and what not....

clock background

before you all flame the crap out of me for asking a question that has been asked a billion times im sure, hear me out. I have installed a few cabs that claim to do this but to no avail. the background on a stock rom is as irritating as salt in the eye.
I have a stock rom winmo 6.1 on a sprint tp2 any help?...............let me get out my flame retardant suit first.

Tregrad said:
before you all flame the crap out of me for asking a question that has been asked a billion times im sure, hear me out. I have installed a few cabs that claim to do this but to no avail. the background on a stock rom is as irritating as salt in the eye.
I have a stock rom winmo 6.1 on a sprint tp2 any help?...............let me get out my flame retardant suit first.
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LMAO...At least you have a sense of humor about it
And your to Senior to get Super Flamed...lol
I havent used 6.1 on a long time...
But I am pretty sure over in the blackstone themes and apps section is your best bet

Tregrad said:
before you all flame the crap out of me for asking a question that has been asked a billion times im sure, hear me out. I have installed a few cabs that claim to do this but to no avail. the background on a stock rom is as irritating as salt in the eye.
I have a stock rom winmo 6.1 on a sprint tp2 any help?...............let me get out my flame retardant suit first.
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To be clear...are you talkign about the color of the clock tiles themselves, directly behind the letters? Or the background (wallpaper) on the home tab?
At first I thought you meant the border around the bottom half of the clock, where the weather shows up...but you shouldn't have that on a 6.1 ROM..

the two tone gray background of the clock itself, if it is at all possible without changing the clock numbers. I can swipe my finger "up" and then the numbers on the clock become smaller and the background goes away....thats what im after. and thanks for not railing on me, I may have alot of posts but 97% or more are questions lol but im getting better.

Tregrad said:
the two tone gray background of the clock itself, if it is at all possible without changing the clock numbers. I can swipe my finger "up" and then the numbers on the clock become smaller and the background goes away....thats what im after. and thanks for not railing on me, I may have alot of posts but 97% or more are questions lol but im getting better.
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No problem What you're talking about is the clock tiles, and they are certainly replacable with custom ones. The trick is determining exactly what version of TF3D or Sense you have, you'll have to know that to know which custom clocks to look for and download.
Do you have an "About" entry on the "settings" tab? If so it'll tell you what version you have. If you don't see that there, you can just look it up in the registry (I'll show you where)...do you have a regedit app? (Total Commander, PHM_regedit, etc)

this is why i never delve too much into this stuff but am starting to. way too much stuff to keep up with while trying to run my own buisness, thanks for your help
I have winmo 6.1 CD OS 5.2.21052
I dont know what "sence" i have ....if any at all lol.
and all i want to do is make the clock tile transparent or just delete it if possible.

Tregrad said:
this is why i never delve too much into this stuff but am starting to. way too much stuff to keep up with while trying to run my own buisness, thanks for your help
I have winmo 6.1 CD OS 5.2.21052
I dont know what "sence" i have ....if any at all lol.
and all i want to do is make the clock tile transparent or just delete it if possible.
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I dug around in some clock files and found this for you to try, there is no guarantee that it will work as i cant test it for you, but i looked at in with CFC gui and it looks promising!
It might be a good idea to back up the same file in your rom,
Untick manila in "home settings" then copy the file using TC or something
retick manila and it should show.
I hope it works for you

osrix25 said:
I dug around in some clock files and found this for you to try, there is no guarantee that it will work as i cant test it for you, but i looked at in with CFC gui and it looks promising!
It might be a good idea to back up the same file in your rom,
Untick manila in "home settings" then copy the file using TC or something
retick manila and it should show.
I hope it works for you
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Ok yeah I have the same version as Tregrad (TF3D 2.1), and that manila file worked just fine on mine when I tested it...it makes the clock tiles 100% transparent.
However, getting that manila file into the right place on your phone takes a little doing...do you (Tregrad) know how to copy files into and out of your phone's /windows directory?
Maybe someone would be willing to cab that up for you to make it easier...but if not, we can show you how to get it on there and working.

sirphunkee said:
Ok yeah I have the same version as Tregrad (TF3D 2.1), and that manila file worked just fine on mine when I tested it...it makes the clock tiles 100% transparent.
However, getting that manila file into the right place on your phone takes a little doing...do you (Tregrad) know how to copy files into and out of your phone's /windows directory?
Maybe someone would be willing to cab that up for you to make it easier...but if not, we can show you how to get it on there and working.
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You tested and it works ok? I can cab it up later ( i'm not on pc right now), where does it want to be? just straight into Windows folder? I would have cab'd it staight away but thought someone had better test it first!

so should i wait for the cab or what? or can i just drop the file in the windows directory? and thanks again for your help fellas.

Tregrad said:
so should i wait for the cab or what? or can i just drop the file in the windows directory? and thanks again for your help fellas.
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if you can just drop in the windows folder, there's no real need for a cab just makes it more convenient is all! go ahead and try it out i'm dying to know if it works! See if you can find the matching file first and back it up though...I would

ok will give it a shot right now

no change at all hmmm copied orig file and put it in a folder on my pc and "replaced" existing file with the new one and rebooted but nothing happened.

osrix25 said:
I dug around in some clock files and found this for you to try, there is no guarantee that it will work as i cant test it for you, but i looked at in with CFC gui and it looks promising!
It might be a good idea to back up the same file in your rom,
Untick manila in "home settings" then copy the file using TC or something
retick manila and it should show.
I hope it works for you
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where are the "HOME settings"?

Tregrad said:
where are the "HOME settings"?
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Start...settings...today..items... will get you there

dont even have an option to untick manilla

Ok heres the Cab, sorry for the delay!!
there must be a tick box in "Items" Under today settings, and it will be Manila or TF3d or something HTC related! its been so long since i used this ROm i can't remember
So untick whatever it is and then install the cab then retick and it should have overwritten....Good Luck

ok tf3d is ticked, I am going to try the file thing first then if that doesnt work then i will try the cab, thanks.

nope, none of it worked. unticked, ran cab, wanted to restart - let it do so, restarted then re-ticked tf3d and nothing happened?
should i delete the existing file? if it isnt there then it wont want to run it right and since i just want it gone it wouldnt hurt right?
I have to go for now be back in a few hours. thanks again for all your efforts os!

Tregrad said:
nope, none of it worked. unticked, ran cab, wanted to restart - let it do so, restarted then re-ticked tf3d and nothing happened?
should i delete the existing file? if it isnt there then it wont want to run it right and since i just want it gone it wouldnt hurt right?
I have to go for now be back in a few hours. thanks again for all your efforts os!
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i know it says weather clock but it worked for me when i had 6.1, give it a try, wont hurt

HD2 WishList

These are my requests that I have which would actually "complete" my perfect HD2... if any members here would like to contribute some info as to how I may go about and fulfill them, then I would have much gratitude. Thanks
-Aside from the volume control that MysticGenious posted along with his taskbar, is there any other cab or registry change that will allow me to change my volume in increments of 1 as opposed to 3 bars each time? I am familiar with the paid app, but I do not want to go that route.. If mysticGenious created something that works when you use his taskbar, then I'm sure someone else has created something.
-Take the application "FootPrints" for example... Unless I have that activated on my tab screens, I am unable to create a shortcut so that I can save it on as a quicklink. This is the same with the HTC Calender App and any other tab application. If its not active in the Tab menu then the shortcuts doesn't exist. Is there a workaround? I would like to use Foot Prints, but I only want it as a quicklink, NOT as a Tab folder. I have already tried activating the tab and creating the shortcut to the quicklinks, but as soon as i removed it from the Tab Menus, it disappeared. There has got to be a way for this to happen. Cause I mean the program is there, but for some reason it only works if its active in Tabs.
-Transformers... I have tried reinstalling the Transformers cab but that didn't work. I just want to be able to click the Transformers shortcut and be able to select either 1 or 2 and then the movie instantly pops up. I have the movies saved on my sd card now, but because i moved them out of the SD card and onto my computer at one point in time, the link that connected them is no longer there. Basically I have all the components, I just need some guidance on how to make the shortcut link and work again... I'm assuming that i have to direct the file via registry editor "Total Commander" or something, I am just confused when it comes to that stuff on my HD2
and believe it or not, thats actually the only issues I have left with the phone, I'm sure that someone has a suggestion, or knows an answer... thanks a lot guys

i haven't given up hope on the members here....
anyone know any information about any of the 3 that i have listed??

*Update*
I have solved my transformers issue...
thanks for the help community???................................................................
ehhh......
well either way.. in case someone runs into the same situation heres the original thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6392077#post6392077
cheers...
so any chances someone is gonna be able to point me in right direction for my other requests?? or perhaps even an answer??
cause this is a active hd2 forum, with many users willing to help out each other right???
one can dream.....

wrt links to footprints etc
you should be able to create your own shortcuts to the applications using File Explorer. footprints.exe exists in the Windows directory, you just need to copy it and past as short cut in the windows-start menu-programs directory. These short cuts shouldn't disappear when you disable the tab.

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wrt links to footprints etc
you should be able to create your own shortcuts to the applications using File Explorer. footprints.exe exists in the Windows directory, you just need to copy it and past as short cut in the windows-start menu-programs directory. These short cuts shouldn't disappear when you disable the tab.
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yea you would think so right?? but unfortunately this is the case... and i'm wondering how would we be able to remedy this.. cause yea.. footprinks.lnk does not exist... until it is activated in tabs.. and even if i decide to make a shortcut of the footprints.lnk when it shows up.. the shortcuts becomes inactive one you deactivate the tab...
its WEIRD... i think what it is.. is that HTC put a lock on that application, since its one of their own.. so that it can only work if its activated under sense UI... which sucks..
but yea.. so i've already tried all the "doable" attempts... i'm basically asking someone who is more skilled to tell me whats going on... cause the developers can do amazing things.. this would be a walk in the park...