[POLL] a2sd... yay or nay? - Hero CDMA General

So I've learned more about android so far than I intended or expected. I haven't needed to learn about or implement a2sd but at this point my "keepers" app collection has me down to just over 20mb free internal storage so I'm considering taking the plunge.
I haven't used a2sd yet for two reasons:
A) I haven't needed it
B) I've read lots of threads regarding difficulty with setting it up and maintaining it when switching or updating roms
So what's the scoop? Is it worth it? Is there any performance gain or is it strictly a storage benefit?
Should I go ahead and learn about it so it's in place when the time comes that I want to use it or am I better off with my current rule of thumb? Which is "if I think I NEED a2sd then I probably NEED to reevaluate my app library".
Thanks guys

nebenezer said:
So I've learned more about android so far than I intended or expected. I haven't needed to learn about or implement a2sd but at this point my "keepers" app collection has me down to just over 20mb free internal storage so I'm considering taking the plunge.
I haven't used a2sd yet for two reasons:
A) I haven't needed it
B) I've read lots of threads regarding difficulty with setting it up and maintaining it when switching or updating roms
So what's the scoop? Is it worth it? Is there any performance gain or is it strictly a storage benefit?
Should I go ahead and learn about it so it's in place when the time comes that I want to use it or am I better off with my current rule of thumb which is "if I think I NEED a2sd then I probably NEED to reevaluate my app library"
Thanks guys
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Unless you are running out of space on your phone, I wouldn't worry about it. It is supposed to be faster if you have one of the $100 8gb class 10 thingys but I don't know if its true. its fast enough already
My vote: Nay

I have never used it and have never run short of space on my phone. From all the millions of posts on the subject I can't imagine it being worth the huge pain in the ass it seems to be!

I use it, as I have and do run out of space on /data.

I have a 16 GB class 2, so I've always refrained. I'm not running out of space, but I usually decide whether or not I like an app right after I install it and if I don't like it, uninstall.
So, to answer your question...
I don't know, I'm curious myself.

I use, ran out of space on my phone the first week so was excited to do it. it was a piece of cake to set up with RA 1.6.2, and switching roms has been no big deal, I usually first try to update without wiping ext, and 9 times out of 10 it works fine and I don't have to download my apps again (though you do lose data, but that can be backed with titanium. If it does mess up, it's no big deal, I adb pull the apps out with a * and they're all on my computer pretty quickly so I can reinstall as necessary.

jonnythan said:
I use it, as I have and do run out of space on /data.
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Do you mean to say that even using a2sd you STILL run out of space on /data?
funcrusher said:
I have a 16 GB class 2, so I've always refrained. I'm not running out of space, but I usually decide whether or not I like an app right after I install it and if I don't like it, uninstall.
So, to answer your question...
I don't know, I'm curious myself.
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lol, I was hoping this poll would benefit more than just myself
Like I said, I keep my app list pretty clean but 20mb as low as I've seen yet.

nebenezer said:
Do you mean to say that even using a2sd you STILL run out of space on /data?
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No, no, definitely not.

jonnythan said:
No, no, definitely not.
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ok, thanks!

I love a2sd cause I have a 8g card vs a small internal storage space on the phone. A2sd is very easy.
1. Backup your SD card on computer.
2. Root your phone if you haven't.
3. Partition your SD card via the recovery menu(I used 512mb for my ext2).
4. In the same menu at that below it change it from ext2 to ext3.
5. After complete put all of your files back on your SD card that you saved to your computer.
6. Then mostly every new 2.1 ROM has it built in now where it runs from the first bootup with no patching or user issues. Just make sure you look in the description of the ROM to make sure.
I'm running Fresh 2.0d. I just upgraded to a new 8g SD card for more music and movie storage space. So I just re-did the process. The longest part is waiting for the files to be transfered to/from the computer.

doeboy1984 said:
I love a2sd cause I have a 8g card vs a small internal storage space on the phone. A2sd is very easy.
1. Backup your SD card on computer.
2. Root your phone if you haven't.
3. Partition your SD card via the recovery menu(I used 512mb for my ext2).
4. In the same menu at that below it change it from ext2 to ext3.
5. After complete put all of your files back on your SD card that you saved to your computer.
6. Then mostly every new 2.1 ROM has it built in now where it runs from the first bootup with no patching or user issues. Just make sure you look in the description of the ROM to make sure.
I'm running Fresh 2.0d. I just upgraded to a new 8g SD card for more music and movie storage space. So I just re-did the process. The longest part is waiting for the files to be transfered to/from the computer.
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I would skip the ext3 part if I were you, kills your sd card faster

I know some people were having so trouble with some of the ROM's cause they were in ext2 but no one was having any problems while using ext3 s thats why I posted that. To help alleviate that issue

Vrekk said:
I would skip the ext3 part if I were you, kills your sd card faster
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I don't know why they even made this an option. I have a feeling the people implementing this have no knowledge of filesystems which is frightening....

For those of you running it:
What class cards do you have?

feld said:
I don't know why they even made this an option. I have a feeling the people implementing this have no knowledge of filesystems which is frightening....
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feld,
Care to post a brief run-down of the difference between ext2 and ext3?

funcrusher said:
For those of you running it:
What class cards do you have?
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I'm using a class 6.

jonnythan said:
I'm using a class 6.
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See, if I had a class 6 I probably would have tried it out by now. Afraid that my class 2 will slow down apps etc. ;\

I've had no problems with a class 2 8gb.
I have a class 6 on order.

funcrusher said:
See, if I had a class 6 I probably would have tried it out by now. Afraid that my class 2 will slow down apps etc. ;\
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I doubt it, actually. The class rating only refers to the minimum write speed in an optimal situation. Read speeds seem to be decently high across the board. You'll probably never notice any difference, if there even is one.

jonnythan said:
I doubt it, actually. The class rating only refers to the minimum write speed in an optimal situation. Read speeds seem to be decently high across the board. You'll probably never notice any difference, if there even is one.
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Yeah? What do you think about the 2.5 version or whatever that moves your dalvik over as well?

Related

Droid Swap App - any users / experience

Just wondering if anyone is using Droid Swap and has seen any increase in speed on their device ?
I have tried it out intermittently, but am not sure if it is adding to past reboot issues.
grifforama said:
Just wondering if anyone is using Droid Swap and has seen any increase in speed on their device ?
I have tried it out intermittently, but am not sure if it is adding to past reboot issues.
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Honestly, I have never used Droid Swap.
However, I got a new SD card this week and didn't partition it for Apps2SD. I have found that my phone is a million times for reliable. That thing where the phone goes to sleep and END won't wake it back up? Gone away.
After all of the initial force closes from apps not being there any more, i had to wipe and reflash my rom, but everything is SO much better with out Apps2SD.
Kcarpenter said:
Honestly, I have never used Droid Swap.
However, I got a new SD card this week and didn't partition it for Apps2SD. I have found that my phone is a million times for reliable. That thing where the phone goes to sleep and END won't wake it back up? Gone away.
After all of the initial force closes from apps not being there any more, i had to wipe and reflash my rom, but everything is SO much better with out Apps2SD.
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QFT.
My phone is 1000 times more stable without apps2sd
abcdfv said:
QFT.
My phone is 1000 times more stable without apps2sd
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*Shows his forum ignorance*
What the heck is QFT? lol.
Sorry this is the only forum I regular.
QFT = Quite F****** True
So is that why my phone keeps acting flaky? Apps2SD ... I knew some people had expressed concerns about it but I never associated my issues with it. I'm not overly worried about it I guess. I'd rather have all the apps I have on my phone and deal with the occasional reboot or FC.
I personally have not had any problems with FC or reboots with app2sd running
setaside said:
QFT = Quite F****** True
So is that why my phone keeps acting flaky? Apps2SD ... I knew some people had expressed concerns about it but I never associated my issues with it. I'm not overly worried about it I guess. I'd rather have all the apps I have on my phone and deal with the occasional reboot or FC.
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I don't carry around enough apps to bother with it. Thought it was cool at first though.
I have discovered if I don't need it very often I can go to the market just as easy and get it quick.
I do keep the life or death apps on my phone..Facebook. MiKandi, those things.
setaside said:
QFT = Quite F****** True
So is that why my phone keeps acting flaky? Apps2SD ... I knew some people had expressed concerns about it but I never associated my issues with it. I'm not overly worried about it I guess. I'd rather have all the apps I have on my phone and deal with the occasional reboot or FC.
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QFT - Quoted for Truth
fatkitty420 said:
QFT - Quoted for Truth
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hehe, years ago in my forum noobness, I always thought it meant "quit f**king talking." Sometimes it made sense, but other times I was just wondering "wtf did he say that was so bad?"
Forums are so much more interesting when you have to make up your own definitions for acronyms.
fatkitty420 said:
QFT - Quoted for Truth
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Heh, I guess that says something about the circles we run in. Fortunately, we all end up at the same place ... XDA.
grifforama said:
Just wondering if anyone is using Droid Swap and has seen any increase in speed on their device ?
I have tried it out intermittently, but am not sure if it is adding to past reboot issues.
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I use Swapper (same as DroidSwap for all intensive purposes...except that someone took Swapper off the Marketplace). I have a 64MB linux swap partition.
It doesn't work that great if you let it create a swap file on your SD Card, but if you let it initialize your swap partition, it works great. Swap file size is the key. 32MB for casual use, 64MB for heavy use. Anything above 64MB is too much swap space and your phone will slow down alot.
afazel said:
hehe, years ago in my forum noobness, I always thought it meant "quit f**king talking." Sometimes it made sense, but other times I was just wondering "wtf did he say that was so bad?"
Forums are so much more interesting when you have to make up your own definitions for acronyms.
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lol.that made me laugh man
I was fairly annoyed with the whole app issue for awhile, but even now, I barely use all of the apps I have.
tkirton said:
32MB for casual use, 64MB for heavy use. Anything above 64MB is too much swap space and your phone will slow down alot.
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Why would it slow down with more memory?
recently done
I rooted and themed droid 1 with a pl3x theme and it allowed me to move any app2sd and i did not have any lag problems.
I found that the theme installer actually had a .apk folder that it pulled all the apps to install during "instal zip from sd" on clockwork recovey. So i simply found all the .apks for every app i wanted and added them to the app folder in the update zip. When i installed the update and booted droid, every app was installed through the android system and no mb internal storage was used. My phone booted up with 260mb free of internal storage. Pretty sick. Instead of having to download every app from market and reduce myself to 190mb's again, this went nice with the 1.25ghz over clock.
But does anyone know of the app called swapper? Im trying to see if its worth messing with on a spare sd card? I dont know if apps are smart enough to know how to use the memory , or is the swapper smart enough to tell the apps its available. I say "tell" the apps because i dont know a better word.
Any chance to set up swap on non rooted phone? (for exmaple set up all things on card from pc, and then just mount it on the phone)

Finally got to use Apps2SD!

Ahh....I feel like I can breathe freely! Damn that internal limitation was getting annoying! I wrote up what I did on my blog for those interested.
bit.ly/
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Yea! No longer limited to 5 or 6 apps! Although, the 4GB apps partition may be a bit extreme
damn new user limitations......sigh....been online longer than most people have been born....ah well, eventually it'll go away.....
JadedTech said:
Ahh....I feel like I can breathe freely! Damn that internal limitation was getting annoying! I wrote up what I did on my blog for those interested.
bit.ly/
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Yea! No longer limited to 5 or 6 apps! Although, the 4GB apps partition may be a bit extreme
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You never need over 600mb. Honestly, there's no way you need 500 apps+ (which still probably wouldn't fill up 600mb.)
Does anyone think that it would be ok to simply resize rather than wipe/reinstall/reformat to lower size?
I don't think you can. If you could, I wouldn't. Just backup all your data on sdcard, reformat it, then transfer it all back.
It's not too bad.
r3s-rt said:
I don't think you can. If you could, I wouldn't. Just backup all your data on sdcard, reformat it, then transfer it all back.
It's not too bad.
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Too late, already done
Worked out perfectly....took a hell of a long time but I'm happy and it works great! See sig for details now
JadedTech said:
Although, the 4GB apps partition may be a bit extreme
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ROFL I have 512mbs and over 100 apps on my phone.. You should attempt to download the marketplace 1 app at a time and see how many of the 150,000 apps you can fit onto your phone

So will we ever get 4 GB?

After perm-root, is the rest of the NAND available?
joebobjoe said:
After perm-root, is the rest of the NAND available?
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Well, simply rooting isn't going to magically open up the internal storage; that's why it's still listed as 1.1x GB after. The root just came out this morning; just like us patient people gave the devs to root, give them time to fiddle with the storage. They'll probably figure it out soon enough.
Fortunately the storage is still a crapload. I've gone from what... 1.16GB? stock to 1.1GB, and I don't see myself using the rest of it at all.
Yup, I don't even think I need all that space. Right now I have 888MB free, and that is with ALL my apps installed on phone memory, as I prefer not moving to SD Card...
I just wanted to ask, does moving to SD Card do anything other than free up space of the phone memory? If it does make stuff run faster etc, then only I see a reason to move apps to sd card..
Freeing up space is the only real benefit for Androids native apps2sd...
Apps2ext on the other hand, was really nice to have if you like trying out different roms.
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franky1029 said:
Freeing up space is the only real benefit for Androids native apps2sd...
Apps2ext on the other hand, was really nice to have if you like trying out different roms.
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On the G1 they where able to re-allocate memory from the GPU to the CPU to increase the speed of the G1 at the cost of 3D games. Believe Cyanogen did this, Yes, 1.x gigs is plenty BUT, what if the rest of the "4 gigs" could be focused on the GPU side of things to increase FPS? hehe Counter Strike on the G2..rofl Maybe using the other space for a full linux distro? a dual boot?
Dual Boot could be very nice, yes..
That actually sounds quite viable.
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" Low Disk Space " Solution

I know we've all come across this at least once. Whether it's your Device or, your Girls. That Damm Pop Up saying " Low Disk Space " . I now have a solution for it that isn't as drastic as Re-Flashing the Entire Rom. Believe me I was surprised it would be this simple. Coincidentally it also resolved the other Pop of of " Insufficient Memory " . I would re-post it here again, but I didn't want to double post the same thing. So I'll Link you to my original Post.
SOLUTION TO LOW DISK SPACE ERROR MESSAGE
Sweet! I've actually never had it happen, but i'll keep this in mind. I'm actually a little curious so I might try it out just to see ...
Cool. Keep me posted
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MikROMs Since 3/13/11
Thanks for this, good idea for my wife's LG Optimus - her dialer storage is always eating up the most free space and there's only like 160mb to play with total. And she's tied to the thing all the time so getting it away from her long enough to flash a new rom and set up a2sd-ext is tough - this will be a lot quicker.
cmags said:
Thanks for this, good idea for my wife's LG Optimus - her dialer storage is always eating up the most free space and there's only like 160mb to play with total. And she's tied to the thing all the time so getting it away from her long enough to flash a new rom and set up a2sd-ext is tough - this will be a lot quicker.
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Keep me posted on how it goes. I've had a few people try it on other Devices already with no issues .
I moved my dialer storage and it did next to nothing. Then i moved data for a couple games and it made a HUGE difference.
So ... be wise about what apps you move data for I guess, but I can confirm it works well with song pop lol
sixxt9 said:
I moved my dialer storage and it did next to nothing. Then i moved data for a couple games and it made a HUGE difference.
So ... be wise about what apps you move data for I guess, but I can confirm it works well with song pop lol
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It really just depends on how much data is there. Your dialer storage could have been so small it made no difference. I haven't had to worry about low storage on my doubleshot because we got almost 1GB for apps and I usually install about 200MB of apps and that's it. Some of the main memory hogs are games that need 300mb or more of additional data like gun bros ect. Angry birds also takes a chunk of space.
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strapped365 said:
It really just depends on how much data is there. Your dialer storage could have been so small it made no difference. I haven't had to worry about low storage on my doubleshot because we got almost 1GB for apps and I usually install about 200MB of apps and that's it. Some of the main memory hogs are games that need 300mb or more of additional data like gun bros ect. Angry birds also takes a chunk of space.
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Very true. But for most users Dialer Storage is Big. I still play the Hell out of Angry Birds. Sometimes the App Cahce gets as high as 50MB, and Data well lets not get into that. Since it's on the SD Card I don't much worry about it. But I always tell people to keep in mind that the SD Card Class has a lot to do with how the Apps perform form the SD Card.
sixxt9 said:
I moved my dialer storage and it did next to nothing. Then i moved data for a couple games and it made a HUGE difference.
So ... be wise about what apps you move data for I guess, but I can confirm it works well with song pop lol
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Kool thanks for the input . Yes moving App Data to the SD Card will free up a good amount of space. Just be sure your running at least a Class 4 or better SD Card.
prboy1969 said:
Kool thanks for the input . Yes moving App Data to the SD Card will free up a good amount of space. Just be sure your running at least a Class 4 or better SD Card.
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Yeah i got a 16 gig class 4 with a 1 gig ext partition. I'm not heavy with my volume of apps though. Outta curiosity i wonder how much would be freed if I move my angry birds too ... lol
Depends on how much App Data you have. I always look at how much is there before I make a decision to move it. Also gives me a good judge of what I gained. Just be aware that some Games slow down if you move App Data to the SD Card. But it also depends on the SD Card, and your SD Card read ahead. But you can always move it back.
Yeah I have no real need to move anything now. Was just curious to see. I'll look at it later when I get bored ... it'll gimme something to do.
I was having an issue with my phone running choppy occasionally and I started getting random reboots every once in a blue moon. Turned out to be my memory settings and nothing with my data storage. So I'm back to being completely satisfied with everything again.
I'm wondering how others have their read ahead speed set. I have mine at 2048kb because thats what I read was optimal. But when I experimented with v6 supercharger, it said I should set that to 1024kb instead. I also have a 16gb class 2 microsd with a 1gb partition. I'm no longer using v6. Just wondering.
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Chad The Pathfinder said:
I'm wondering how others have their read ahead speed set. I have mine at 2048kb because thats what I read was optimal. But when I experimented with v6 supercharger, it said I should set that to 1024kb instead. I also have a 16gb class 2 microsd with a 1gb partition. I'm no longer using v6. Just wondering.
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Depends on your SD Card Class, and your Device. But I've found that 2048 works well for me my Device, and my particular SD Card. My partition is 2GB. I used SD Tools to check which read ahead setting was best for me.
prboy1969 said:
Depends on your SD Card Class, and your Device. But I've found that 2048 works well for me my Device, and my particular SD Card. My partition is 2GB. I used SD Tools to check which read ahead setting was best for me.
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Thanks! I checked and 2048 is best for me too.
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Chad The Pathfinder said:
Thanks! I checked and 2048 is best for me too.
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Kool . Glad I could help.
Oh BTW peeps I know I misspell " Cool " all the time. It's intentional :silly: .
I'm running MikShift v2.1 with a2sd and when I long press on dialer storage in Titanium Backup it doesn't give me the option to move data to SD.
Do you get a minu that says "Special Features" at the top or does it say "Backup Porperties"? If it says "Backup Properties" try swiping to the screen on the right. The "Special Features" is what you want.
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Do you get a minu that says "Special Features" at the top or does it say "Backup Porperties"? If it says "Backup Properties" try swiping to the screen on the right. The "Special Features" is what you want.
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I went to special features, and it isn't there????????
prboy1969 said:
Depends on your SD Card Class, and your Device. But I've found that 2048 works well for me my Device, and my particular SD Card. My partition is 2GB. I used SD Tools to check which read ahead setting was best for me.
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How do I figure out what is the best setting from this? 16gb class 2.

living without a SD?

yes im asking this. im on a HTC Desire Z now with a sd card and i wanted to know if its a big difference to live with or without a SDcard. is it do-able? i cant choose bitween the s3 and nexus 4
The SD card doesn't make a difference, you just have to figure out if you can live with 8/16 GB of storage. The answer is probably yes, if you are willing to use streaming services (google music, netflix, etc.)
I personally would not be able to live with SD cards in my life. I will have to end myself soon because Dropbox and Google Drive are taking over.
Oh well...
yumcax said:
The SD card doesn't make a difference, you just have to figure out if you can live with 8/16 GB of storage. The answer is probably yes, if you are willing to use streaming services (google music, netflix, etc.)
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i have 32 GB now so and i have 9GB free. but google music is not available in my country (yet). does it stream your music or is it like itunes?
more threads of sdcard complaints... will it ever end?
Will u be able to transfer stuff from phone to a computer, even if u don't have a SD card
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mohnim said:
Will u be able to transfer stuff from phone to a computer, even if u don't have a SD card
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of course you can, just plug the phone into your computer and it gets recognized as a mass storage device...
I think 16GB will be more than sufficient for me. If it isn't than I will just get a USB OTG cable and use the current Micro SD card that I have. I have an adapter that I can plug the SD card into that allows it to be plugged into a USB port. So effectively giving myself access to expandable SD storage
Probably won't need it, but that's my plan.
DonDizzurp said:
more threads of sdcard complaints... will it ever end?
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eh man i am not complaining
Came from a G2 (with microSD card slot) to a Gnex, I have to say I didn't miss the card even a bit. 16GB is fine since I use Google music for streaming, and that's the majority part of storage. I don't use GNex's camera that much. I have a Canon D550 and there isn't a phone camera that could produce pictures even similar in quality.
You might want to mange your space a little, like deleting unwanted backups, not having a million Titanium backups, but it's manageable.
I must admit, although I would rather have a micro-SD slot, its really not a feature I'm over worried about in terms of storage. What concerns me is whether it increases the risk of flashing roms etc to the phone. I you brick you phone, is it not going to make it more difficult to unbrick it? Or can adb always push stuff to the phone one way or another?
Also, just to confirm, you personal data stored internally (in what I assume will be called the sdcard folder) is retained each time you wipe your phone, right?
mazdarati2 said:
eh man i am not complaining
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what do you want to hear, then?
did you not see the other 25 threads on the same damn topic?
no, living without an SDcard is not doable, it is like burning in hell. dont do it or you will hang yourself within a week. okay? okay. now stfu and gtfo
DonDizzurp said:
what do you want to hear, then?
did you not see the other 25 threads on the same damn topic?
no, living without an SDcard is not doable, it is like burning in hell. dont do it or you will hang yourself within a week. okay? okay. now stfu and gtfo
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wtf man what is your problem. You cant stand it that im not as smart as you so you are going to flame on me? dude please, grow up
G405T said:
I must admit, although I would rather have a micro-SD slot, its really not a feature I'm over worried about in terms of storage. What concerns me is whether it increases the risk of flashing roms etc to the phone. I you brick you phone, is it not going to make it more difficult to unbrick it? Or can adb always push stuff to the phone one way or another?
Also, just to confirm, you personal data stored internally (in what I assume will be called the sdcard folder) is retained each time you wipe your phone, right?
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intern is not your SD
I've got a GS3 with a 32gb SD Card (as well as the internal at 16gb) and now a 16gb Nexus 7. I have to be honest and say it does bug me. If you download nightlies and make a lot of Nandroids then your going to suffer to get used to it. There is no way I would recommend an 8gb. I travel a lot on flights and that is when I really miss the storage for music and films, but I do have the phone to fall back on. That said, there are plenty of iSheep out there that don't seem to struggle and Google Drive and Google Music are awesome services. Perhaps I'm the one that should be more tolerant.
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mazdarati2 said:
yes im asking this. im on a HTC Desire Z now with a sd card and i wanted to know if its a big difference to live with or without a SDcard. is it do-able? i cant choose bitween the s3 and nexus 4
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Hey mazdarati2,
I came from the Droid Incredible to the Galaxy Nexus and I can tell you that having a large internal memory rather than the SD card slot is really not a big deal. At first, I thought I would miss it also, but I really wanted the Nexus. The only downside comes if you have a tendency to work with experimental/unstable ROMs, which can corrupt the filesystem on the memory and you will have to reformat and push the factory image with fastboot. When you do this, the SD memory partition gets formatted as well, which is a bummer and if you ever had any problems like that on phones with a physical SD card, you wouldn't have that problem. For the average user that doesn't use more than 8-16GB of space, it will cause no problems, in fact, it will be better because it gets rid of system confusion when saving pictures/videos/other files and then finding them when you connect to your PC. I hope this helps and sways your decision towards getting a nexus 4. It's a great phone and if you're on pre-paid, it will save you a lot of money in the long run! Good Luck!
mazdarati2 said:
intern is not your SD
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The reason I assumed 'sdcard' folder, is because the LG 4X HD, which has both sd and 16GB internal storage places all of your user files in the sdcard directory independent of whether you are using an sdcard. The actual sdcard files are stored in '/sdcard/external_sdcard' which I must admit I found slightly odd.
nschiwy said:
Hey mazdarati2,
I came from the Droid Incredible to the Galaxy Nexus and I can tell you that having a large internal memory rather than the SD card slot is really not a big deal. At first, I thought I would miss it also, but I really wanted the Nexus. The only downside comes if you have a tendency to work with experimental/unstable ROMs, which can corrupt the filesystem on the memory and you will have to reformat and push the factory image with fastboot. When you do this, the SD memory partition gets formatted as well, which is a bummer and if you ever had any problems like that on phones with a physical SD card, you wouldn't have that problem. For the average user that doesn't use more than 8-16GB of space, it will cause no problems, in fact, it will be better because it gets rid of system confusion when saving pictures/videos/other files and then finding them when you connect to your PC. I hope this helps and sways your decision towards getting a nexus 4. It's a great phone and if you're on pre-paid, it will save you a lot of money in the long run! Good Luck!
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i dont think im gonna try out new ROMS. maybe only Pimp My ROM, but thats it
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I've got a GS3 with a 32gb SD Card (as well as the internal at 16gb) and now a 16gb Nexus 7. I have to be honest and say it does bug me. If you download nightlies and make a lot of Nandroids then your going to suffer to get used to it. There is no way I would recommend an 8gb. I travel a lot on flights and that is when I really miss the storage for music and films, but I do have the phone to fall back on. That said, there are plenty of iSheep out there that don't seem to struggle and Google Drive and Google Music are awesome services. Perhaps I'm the one that should be more tolerant.
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yes i need to know to use Google Drive and stream apps like that. never used it

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