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Battery discharges very rapidly (20 min talk time)...

I have a IMate JasJam phone whose battery discharges very rapidly (20 min talk time). I have purchased a new battery as well but that does not seem to solve the problem.
What I wanted to ask the community are the following questions:
a. Can this be due to the radio version that I have? 1.43.00.00 - I have been using this radio for a 6 months now.
b. Can this be due to the charging unit in the phone being damaged? If so, is this replaceable?
c. I also read some threads suggesting buying like 3000 mAmph battery...rather than the standard 1500 mA. Is this really required?
d. Are there any other options to debug this problem?
Appreciate your responses...please help...

Does your phone also shut off for no apparent reason?
I had the same issue with the phone shutting off randomly as well. I took the phone apart and found the battery post was broke off the main board. I think the contacts being lose was also draining the battery or it could have been other things wrong as well. Bought a new phone and all was right again. I get 4 days standby with WM6 now.

Firehawkns said:
Does your phone also shut off for no apparent reason?
I had the same issue with the phone shutting off randomly as well. I took the phone apart and found the battery post was broke off the main board. I think the contacts being lose was also draining the battery or it could have been other things wrong as well. Bought a new phone and all was right again. I get 4 days standby with WM6 now.
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No it does not shut-off automatically. However, I am tempted to find out if the batery connect (post) you suggest is lose or not. I remember dropping my phone a couple of times at least, maybe that caused it.
Buying a new phone is an option always, but unfortunately, I spent a lot of money when I bought this phone and would not like to junk it just yet...I am hoping someone here has other ideas that I can try out before giving up on this phone...
Anyways, thanks for your suggestions...

maybe its the rom you have installed that is causing the drain or maybe it is the radio ,is it cooked or a stock rom. If its cooked try flashing a stock rom and see if the battery issue is fixed

scousemartin said:
maybe its the rom you have installed that is causing the drain or maybe it is the radio ,is it cooked or a stock rom. If its cooked try flashing a stock rom and see if the battery issue is fixed
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It's a Black Satin ROM that I flashed nearly a year ago...I have upgraded the Radio to 1.54.30.10. I was thinking of downloading Schap's WM6 ROM and updating it to that...do you suggest these being good ROM's or is there any other one that you suggest?
Thanks for your suggestion...

pdd said:
It's a Black Satin ROM that I flashed nearly a year ago...I have upgraded the Radio to 1.54.30.10. I was thinking of downloading Schap's WM6 ROM and updating it to that...do you suggest these being good ROM's or is there any other one that you suggest?
Thanks for your suggestion...
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I have a feeling it could be that post if it all of a sudden started. I went radio/rom jumping for several weeks (and it isn't a bad idea to either reload a fresh rom or go back stock and check out your usage) and nothing helped. But it is a great way to narrow it down to device or software.
What to be prepared for though, if you do dig in your phone (assuming you have no warranty and are prepared to do do it), the case was the reason my post hadn't completely broke off. Once the case wasn't holding it on anymore it broke off completely. Make sure you have a backup phone to go to if you can't go without your phone. I even got cute with it and tried to solder the post back on. It lasted about 3 hours before it broke off again. lol

Latest Official HTC ROM trashed my device!!!

Hello
Just installed the latest official HTC ROM - RUU_BlackStone_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.1_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24_Ship - from the HTC website on my device. Upgrade went smooth as so many upgrades (with other phones) before. When it boots 'smart mobility' is shown in it's normal colour for around two seconds during which the font gets some sort of dropshadow effect (much like looking through unclean glasses) and then turns cyan. WM start screen is displayed as I describe as watercolour. Switching off screen and back on gets the normal graphic to live but still with a reoccuring 'smear effect' much like at the start. Device is very sluggish and freezes. Wifi and BT are on by default, no Phone and data reception. When connected to PC it shows ActiveSunc connected icon but 'PC says no' - Little Britain Syndrme. What do you think I should do? I can't revert back to the original ROM as I can't find it anywhere.. can't reinstall the current one as of version message.. in fact can't install any other ROM as I can't get ActiveSync going. Argh! Help! As highly as I think of HTC, this is really screwed up!!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Martin

I'm not an expert , but def sounds like a wrong hardspl to me. I've had this happen to me twice because of my inexperience the first time and my carelessness the second. Can you redo the hspl somehow and try another maybe xda cooked rom? Or have you already tried to go back to the rom you flashed from? Thats what saved me before. Go to duttys site. He has a bunch of htc roms for D/L. Maybe you can find your old one there.

cbreze said:
I'm not an expert , but def sounds like a wrong hardspl to me. I've had this happen to me twice because of my inexperience the first time and my carelessness the second. Can you redo the hspl somehow and try another maybe xda cooked rom? Or have you already tried to go back to the rom you flashed from? Thats what saved me before. Go to duttys site. He has a bunch of htc roms for D/L. Maybe you can find your old one there.
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Thanks for for your thought cbreze. I'm annoyed as everything went by the book and the upgrade went fine until reboot. All I can do is to hard reset the phone at the moment. Can't get an ActiveSync connection going. Any way I can still flash to another ROM without it? Been to dutty's before and there's the same official version that causes me the problem and the Orange UK ROM.. not quite what I had in mind on o2. Can't find the 1.14 ROM which shiped with the device. Any idea where I can get hold of it? Also, I think I have seen a utility somewhere that helps to recover from a bad flash and in the absence of ActiveSync connection. Or was this just a pleasant dream?

Just have seen cRaCKwHoRe post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377 which exactly describes my issue. Will follow that trough but please let me know if you have any additional thoughts. I'm really p***** off with HTC. They could post cRaCKwHoRe's info this on their site. First time I ever got an official ROM and the last as I'm a burnt child. Usually get them from here and it's always first class stuff. Thank you people.

cRaCKwHoRe's instructions did the trick. Panic over. Thank you to everyone whom had a look at the issue and great thanks and deep bow to life saving cRaCKwHoRe. Donation is on the way as soon as I get paid.

Can't make phone call after update

I have a T-mobile Shadow 2007
After update with "Official" T-mobile 2007 update ROM
I can't make any phone call
The phone will search for signal for most of the time
But even it finds T-mobile
I still can't make any call from it.
Please help!!
The Rom I flash with is
RUU_Phoebus_TMO_US_1.11.531.5_4.1.13.56_03.17.90_Ship.exe

Or
Is there a way to flash back to stack 1.03.531.4
can't find this ROM anywhere
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chocobozero said:
Or
Is there a way to flash back to stack 1.03.531.4
can't find this ROM anywhere
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Why don't you run a custom rom?
They're fantastic and work extremely well.
It might be your radio. I don't know much but those roms are amazingg.

rossle12 said:
Why don't you run a custom rom?
They're fantastic and work extremely well.
It might be your radio. I don't know much but those roms are amazingg.
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I'd tried many cooked ROM also,
call function doesn't revive.
I guess I am doomed...

SIM
It sounds more like a hardware malfunction with your sim card. I know it sounds silly, but try pulling it out, wiping it off, and reinserting it. They do go bad over time and the contacts can get worn down or corroded.
If that doesn't work, I would suggest upgrading to WM6.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542311
Or you could try flashing just the radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418679
Or flash back to the TMo original, then return it as defective.
http://member.htc.com/RuuDownload/T-mobileUS/DeviceDownloads.aspx?pid=shadow
Hope that helps...

spl损坏或者radio不正确造成的。
刷回原来的rom。

HD2 keeps resetting itself

Hello
After My Hd2 resets itself it gets stuck at the "stick together" screen and freezes doesn't show the text which rom its running and radio its running. I have to take out the battery for about 10 seconds put it back in and it works. After a while it does the same thing and reset itself. I did a hard reset the problem is still there. Any help would be appropriated

sounds like you flashed a custom rom and didnt match the radio.
oh wait, this is tmous section, all the radios work with all the roms. Hmm, did you task 29 and not flash yet? that would give grey screen with no writing.

samsamuel said:
sounds like you flashed a custom rom and didnt match the radio.
oh wait, this is tmous section, all the radios work with all the roms. Hmm, did you task 29 and not flash yet? that would give grey screen with no writing.
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All radio's DO NOT work with TMoUS. If a 1024 LEO get's installed with a .51 radio then it will brick it.
But it does sound like a bad custom ROM install if it goes into a cyclic boot. There is a few files that will cause this, but I suggest to re-download the ROM and install again.

Nibbley15 said:
All radio's DO NOT work with TMoUS. If a 1024 LEO get's installed with a .51 radio then it will brick it.
But it does sound like a bad custom ROM install if it goes into a cyclic boot. There is a few files that will cause this, but I suggest to re-download the ROM and install again.
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Yeah, i already re-downloaded the roms went to kumars then back to energy problem is still there. =(

yea sorry I worded that sloppily. what I meant was that any tmous rom would boot regardless of the radio, assuming the radio was a tmous.(us with regular leos get that grey screen with no rom info when we flash a tmous rom with our original radio, and won't boot till the radio is changed. a situation that tmous users will never come across)

cambxo, have you checked the battery connection pins? People have experienced symptoms similar to yours (resetting and never getting past the boot screen) when one or more of the little gold pins gets bent. Can't guarantee that's the issue, but it's worth a look.

Cambxo said:
Hello
After My Hd2 resets itself it gets stuck at the "stick together" screen and freezes doesn't show the text which rom its running and radio its running. I have to take out the battery for about 10 seconds put it back in and it works. After a while it does the same thing and reset itself. I did a hard reset the problem is still there. Any help would be appropriated
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Send the phone back to Tmobile and get it replaced mine was doin the same thing and it happend to be that my HD2 had a bad processor.

sirphunkee said:
cambxo, have you checked the battery connection pins? People have experienced symptoms similar to yours (resetting and never getting past the boot screen) when one or more of the little gold pins gets bent. Can't guarantee that's the issue, but it's worth a look.
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holy cow it worked! thanks bro!!!!!!!

ndeguiera said:
holy cow it worked! thanks bro!!!!!!!
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lol no prob! I figured it was a longshot, but I'm glad it worked for you

hmm, looks like my phone resets itself after heavy usage like watching transformer, running garmin or surfing the web....Does anyone have any possible solution? Before i contact t-mobile and try to get a replacement?

Cambxo said:
hmm, looks like my phone resets itself after heavy usage like watching transformer, running garmin or surfing the web....Does anyone have any possible solution? Before i contact t-mobile and try to get a replacement?
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You sure your battery charge pins aren't bent too? I bent some pins on my touch pro and it never worked right after that. Even though I straightened them out. Lots of resetting and freezing.

crisisinthecity said:
You sure your battery charge pins aren't bent too? I bent some pins on my touch pro and it never worked right after that. Even though I straightened them out. Lots of resetting and freezing.
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Yeah, i checked the pins doesn't look bent.

Does it feel like it's getting hot just before it resets itself? The device will get fairly warm normally, but it's possible that you're having overheating issues, just based on the fact you've connected the issue to periods of heavy usage...

sirphunkee said:
Does it feel like it's getting hot just before it resets itself? The device will get fairly warm normally, but it's possible that you're having overheating issues, just based on the fact you've connected the issue to periods of heavy usage...
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Nope, doesn't feel hot at all before it resets. I loaded the opera browser try to connect to espn.com after it loads half way it just freezes then reset itself. Just contacted t-mobile can't get a replacement because it was a gift. =( Anyone know any way i can get it repair or get a replacement besides t-mobile?

Cambxo said:
Nope, doesn't feel hot at all before it resets. I loaded the opera browser try to connect to espn.com after it loads half way it just freezes then reset itself. Just contacted t-mobile can't get a replacement because it was a gift. =( Anyone know any way i can get it repair or get a replacement besides t-mobile?
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Do you use T mobile for service? Why does it matter who paid for it? That is fuct.

yeah, i use t mobile as a service..just called htc for a repair service ..just wondering if anyone can help me flash back to the stock roms?

samsamuel said:
yea sorry I worded that sloppily. what I meant was that any tmous rom would boot regardless of the radio, assuming the radio was a tmous.(us with regular leos get that grey screen with no rom info when we flash a tmous rom with our original radio, and won't boot till the radio is changed. a situation that tmous users will never come across)
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Sorry SAMSAMUEL, didn't mean to blast ya, just wanted to put that out there just in case someone read it wrong.
Thanks for all your info out there!

so now im having this same issue...i was on the phone for like 4 hrs ...and then it just reset ...now this happens ...pins arent bent idk what to do ...it wnt even startup just keeps resetting help please

I don't think there's a solution to this problem. I went on the t-mobile forums multiple of people are having the same problem as we are. I called t mobile last week and got a replacement. I guess that's the only solution. Try calling t mobile and getting a replacement.

sirphunkee said:
cambxo, have you checked the battery connection pins? People have experienced symptoms similar to yours (resetting and never getting past the boot screen) when one or more of the little gold pins gets bent. Can't guarantee that's the issue, but it's worth a look.
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Wow, thank you very much. Though i brick mine until i saw this. Thank alot. That's a bad design for pin heh?

[Q] Battery issues & SPL/ROM Install Questions

Hi everyone,
I recently joined this forum because I got my hands on an HTC HD2 from T-Mobile. Don't know the "official" name to call it since the phone name implies that it's a HTC HD2 LEO and from the looks of it (green call button and red power/end button), it looks like it should be T-Mobile HD2. I'm an advanced computer user in general, but admit that I'm completely new to WinMo devices and have spent hours scouring these threads reading up as much as I can. Now I have a few questions and things that I just want to clear my mind of before I dive in
Please bear with me on this. So many questions to ask and they may sound simple for those that are use to it, but I'm clueless on them.
Model: T-Mobile/HTC HD2
OS Version: 5.2.21892 (21892.5.0.89)
Manila version: 2.5.20121412.2
ROM version: 2.13.531.1 (90963) WWE
ROM Date: 4/28/10
Radio version: 2.10.50.26
Protocol version: 15.39.50.07U
RAM Size: 576MB
Flash Size: 1024MB
R 2.10.50.26
G 15.39.50.07U
D 2.13.90693 8G
SPL-2.10.0000 8G XE
PB81120 SS-B3
I'm using Windows 7 64-bit and have Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 installed already.
1. One major problem I noticed is that this phone is a power guzzler. I left the phone around 75% of power remaining and by morning, it was dead. I made sure to turn off all the unnecessary data fetching features and it didn't seem to help out much. Anyone else experienced similar problems? I read up on a lot of the battery usage tips here and elsewhere and so far, there is very little improvement.
2. Which brings me to this question. I want to try using other custom ROMS that I have been seeing users talking about here. Maybe it will help out with the power issue and also remove unnecessary garbage that may be slowing down the unit. It looks like in order for me to do any of these things, I must install HardSPL3 first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
I have a question on this part:
IMPORTANT: To install/uninstall this HSPL3 there must be any SPL version from this list on your device:
SPL 1.42.0000, SPL 1.62.0000, SPL 1.66.0000, SPL 2.07.0000, SPL 2.08.0000, SPL 2.10.000
3. If I wanted to go back to stock SPL, how do I do this? For HSPL3_PKG.exe, it looks like it will only go back to SPL 2.08.0000? My version is 2.10.0000 (8G XE, not sure what those characters are for).
4. One part says that flashing with the wrong ROM can "brick" the phone. But if I install HardSPL3 first, how do I unbrick it? Just by doing a hard reset or restoring stock ROM?
5. When we flash a custom ROM, is that ROM going to be the one used after we do a hard reset?
Here's hoping to doing my first HardSPL or ROM flash without screwing it up
Thanks in advance.

Wow, GREAT first post. Although most of these questions have been answered before, I must commend you on your post. Clear english, more information that I can shake a stick at, general politeness...you are a poster child for what we want new users to be.
Anywho, to answer your questions:
1-There are ways to conserve power with the HD2, and customs ROMs do generally have less power consumption than stock ROMs, but ultimately it comes down to that the HD2 has a small battery at just 1230MAh. I would purchase an extended battery, you can get them from eBay for like 15 bucks and they work wonders.
2-Yes, you need to install HardSPL in order to flash a custom ROM, but once you do it you never need to re-do it as it is permanent. And yes, your SPL should work with the HSPL3 package.
3-To go back to stock SPL, you can either use the HSPL package to go back to 2.08.0000 or flash the official 2.13 T-Mobile USA stock ROM via your SD card and it will overwrite HardSPL back to 2.08.0000. Even though your SPL is 2.10.0000, there is no real appreciable end-user difference between the two. The only reason you would need to go back to stock SPL is for warranty purposes.
4-Yes, flashing the wrong custom, stock or radio ROM will brick your device. PLEASE read up on which versions work. If the thread specifically says "for TMOUS" then you are pretty much in the clear. If it says for LEO512 or Euro, DO NOT attempt to flash it, as it WILL perma-brick your device. Radio's are really the most deadly. Flashing a radio ROM with .51 in its name WILL perma-brick your phone. The rule of thumb with WinMo is that if your phone can go into bootloader, by pressing power and holding the down volume button from startup, and get to the tri-color screen then you can flash a new ROM and most of the time recover. Flashing an incorrect ROM or radio will make it so that your phone will not power on, thus rendering it usesless.
and 5-Yes, whatever ROM is on your device is the ROM that will be re-installed when you Hard Reset. To go back to stock, just flash the original 2.13 T-MoUS stock ROM.
I hope that helps, and please don't hesitate to ask anymore questions. READ like crazy before flashing, and if in doubt....DON'T FLASH till you ask. Also, for more info, check out the guide in my signature, should be helpfull.

Thanks for the fast reply ashasaur
One thing on the SPL version. Since I have SPL 2.10.0000 will T-Mobile notice that it's 2.08.0000 and won't take it back? Just asking these precautionary questions. More on the careful side
I definitely have read dozens of these threads and think I pretty much get the gist of it now. Will definitely look out for those things you mentioned and have been reading those sentences in big red fonts LOL
I actually do have a few more questions.
1. I have been installing some of the apps mentioned here to my SD card. If my guess is correct, I have to reinstall these again if a different ROM is used right? There are probably settings stored in the registry on the internal memory.
2. Been having trouble using WiFi with both of my wireless routers at home even though they work for my other computers. For some reason, it connects to them but when I try to browse a webpage with Opera, it gives me an error saying it can't be found (or similar to that wording). Once I turn off WiFi, it works again with 3G.
3. This one will probably have no definitive answer and I've seen debates go on about it. Do you notice any power usage difference between using WiFi or 3G for the internet? Besides speed, if WiFi uses less power, I want to get that working.
Now to get that extended battery. Hopefully it won't stick out too much since I read up on that also somewhere.
Thanks again.

No problem.
1-No, T-Mobile has no idea what SPL you have, only that it falls within a certain range of (something) to (something), that top one being 2.10.0000. They DO know however if your SPL has been tweaked with the HSPL3 package because it displays HSPL after the SPL version.
2-Yes, if you install a new ROM, or hard reset you will have to reinstall all the applications that you have installed right now regardless of where you put them. You can however get a backup program such as Sprite Backup and backup your entire program database, then use that backup on your new ROM to put back all your programs and tweaks and whatnot in one easy process.
3-Some routers are just straight up not compatable with the HD2's WiFi adaptor. Search for how to enable WiFi N on the HD2. Even if your router doesn't support N speeds, it still sometimes solves compatability problems, as do custom ROMs.
4-3G more often then not actually uses more power than WiFi because..well...I don't really know to be honest, only that it does. Mostly from what I gather is that depending on your signal strentgh 3G may use very little, to an amazing amount of power, whereas no matter what the signal strength, WiFi is pretty constant.
They do make extended 1600MAh batteries that have the same form factor as the stock one, and don't require the bigger cover...which is about a half inch tall I'm afraid. I myself use a cheapo 1600MAh battery from eBay and get around 30% more battery life out of it versus the stock one, and can still use the stock cover.

ashasaur said:
No problem.
1-No, T-Mobile has no idea what SPL you have, only that it falls within a certain range of (something) to (something), that top one being 2.10.0000. They DO know however if your SPL has been tweaked with the HSPL3 package because it displays HSPL after the SPL version.
2-Yes, if you install a new ROM, or hard reset you will have to reinstall all the applications that you have installed right now regardless of where you put them. You can however get a backup program such as Sprite Backup and backup your entire program database, then use that backup on your new ROM to put back all your programs and tweaks and whatnot in one easy process.
3-Some routers are just straight up not compatable with the HD2's WiFi adaptor. Search for how to enable WiFi N on the HD2. Even if your router doesn't support N speeds, it still sometimes solves compatability problems, as do custom ROMs.
4-3G more often then not actually uses more power than WiFi because..well...I don't really know to be honest, only that it does. Mostly from what I gather is that depending on your signal strentgh 3G may use very little, to an amazing amount of power, whereas no matter what the signal strength, WiFi is pretty constant.
They do make extended 1600MAh batteries that have the same form factor as the stock one, and don't require the bigger cover...which is about a half inch tall I'm afraid. I myself use a cheapo 1600MAh battery from eBay and get around 30% more battery life out of it versus the stock one, and can still use the stock cover.
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Okay.... You are so posting the particulars of that 1600MAh battery! Right?! Aren't we ALL looking for a larger battery that doesn't change the form factor of the HD2! PLEASE!!!!!

ElaineD said:
Okay.... You are so posting the particulars of that 1600MAh battery! Right?! Aren't we ALL looking for a larger battery that doesn't change the form factor of the HD2! PLEASE!!!!!
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x2! (and here are the obligatory extra characters)

I finally did it. I stayed up until like 1AM yesterday re-reading everything in the threads here before I dove in and installed HardSPL3, Core Cell Custom ROM and to make the final finish, flashed the radio ROM to 2.12.50.02_2. Everything seems to be ok except for a few freeze ups here and there with the Core Cell ROM.
Already enabled the wireless N on the HD2 and also have an N router. Will give it another try since the attempt failed last night.
Thanks for mentioning those two programs. Just what I wanted. They will definitely save me time.
The only 1600mah batteries I found on eBay are all from China. It's going to be a long wait and if I decide to buy it, I hope it's not a cheap model. Need a good long lasting battery

Heh, awesome! You will enjoy custom ROMs. Every device I have ever had has had a custom ROM, and the HD2 is no different. They just make the phones sooooo much better.
Anyways, due to popular demand, here is a picture of my battery, and yes, it's a cheapo from China...cost me I think 8USD on eBay, and took around a week to get here by standard overseas shipping.
It's a NETCOM WCL-01A. SUPPOSEDLY works with all the HD2 variants. 3.7V, 1600MAh, and as you can see...is standard size and works with the stock battery cover. Pictures suck I know, taken with my webcam...

Thanks for the pics. Quality is more than enough to make out what it looks like. I think I saw an identical one going on eBay. Will snatch one up now since the shipping time will be the huge killer here. How long did you have it for? Last thing I want is a cheap battery leaking inside LOL

I still use it everyday...and i've had it since around June-ish I think. Still works just as well as the day I bought it.

ashasaur said:
No problem.
1-No, T-Mobile has no idea what SPL you have, only that it falls within a certain range of (something) to (something), that top one being 2.10.0000. They DO know however if your SPL has been tweaked with the HSPL3 package because it displays HSPL after the SPL version.
2-Yes, if you install a new ROM, or hard reset you will have to reinstall all the applications that you have installed right now regardless of where you put them. You can however get a backup program such as Sprite Backup and backup your entire program database, then use that backup on your new ROM to put back all your programs and tweaks and whatnot in one easy process.
3-Some routers are just straight up not compatable with the HD2's WiFi adaptor. Search for how to enable WiFi N on the HD2. Even if your router doesn't support N speeds, it still sometimes solves compatability problems, as do custom ROMs.
4-3G more often then not actually uses more power than WiFi because..well...I don't really know to be honest, only that it does. Mostly from what I gather is that depending on your signal strentgh 3G may use very little, to an amazing amount of power, whereas no matter what the signal strength, WiFi is pretty constant.
They do make extended 1600MAh batteries that have the same form factor as the stock one, and don't require the bigger cover...which is about a half inch tall I'm afraid. I myself use a cheapo 1600MAh battery from eBay and get around 30% more battery life out of it versus the stock one, and can still use the stock cover.
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Snagged one from obostore.com $8.99 + free shipping andida brand...
"1600mah Andida Battery for HTC Touch HD2 Leo Tmobile HD2"
Hope it works!