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Hi Guys. I'm making the jump from ATT with an 8125 to Sprint with the new Mogul. I've got the phone now and it's wonderful. I live in an area that only has 1XRTT data available (Fort Scott, KS) and I was under the impression that this would provide data rates of around 50 - 70 kbs. I'm only getting around 12 to 14 kbs despite having a strong connection indicated on the phone (5 bars). I've contacted Sprint and they were helpful but didn't solve the issue. My question is: Is this about what I should expect in terms of a data rate or is there some tweak I can apply to the phone settings that would allow a faster data rate? I signed on to the SERO plan for 500 minutes and unlimited data ($30 per month, WOW...what a deal that is).
Thanks for any help you can provide. This forum has been great to me so I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Rick
Data rates that they give you are peak, and typically only burst rates. That's like saying that a 56k modem is supposed to give you 56k data but most people only DL at 8-10k. On EV-DO non A I get about 30k DL speed max, so your data rate is about right.
another important thing to realize is the diofference between bits and bytes
most ISPs (cellular included) give their speed in bits (kilobits, megabits, etc) while speedtests and software that shows your download speed will report it in bytes/kilobytes, since heres 8 bits to a byte this will seem much slower than advertised speeds
IE if you are getting 12 kilobytes per second from the phone, thats the same as 96 kilobits per second, which would be pretty good for 1xrtt
Thanks guys
Hey guys.
Thanks for the replies and for clearing this up for me. I just love this phone and Sprints coverage where I live has proven to be much better than ATT. I took the phone to an EVDO area and the internet just hums along there. I was hoping to have enough bandwidth to stream XMradio over the phone, but I suppose I'll have to keep dreamin .
Is there any way to know if Sprint is planning to improve their EVDO data coverage areas? See...I'm already being impatient.
Thanks again,
Rick
On Sprint's Business website it will tell you where different data rates are available, and if an area is EV-DO, it will let you know when they plan on delivering Rev A. Phone companies are not going to divulge when they plan on making faster service available because another carrier could beat them to it. Shame that's the way they are, but that's the way it is.
are you in a corporate area, or a sprint affiliate area? I live in iPCS land so I feel your pain.
dunno if this helps, but I'm using the "Mobile Satellite Radio" program to play XM online and it works fine, even in my very-very fringe 1X connection at work.
It *does* take a few seconds to actually buffer up, but once it does that, it seems to be fine.
I think I found a solution
I live in a Sprint covered area, but the dominant carrier here is Alltel. I heard that Sprint and Alltel share a roaming agreement, and I've noticed my phone switch to roam on occasion. On my phone settings, there is an option to force roaming and to allow data roaming. I selected both these choices and after a few moments, the phone showed that I was now roaming and the data indicator showed "EV" instead of "1X". I started internet explorer and it connected right up and worked much faster. Fast enough in fact that I could stream XM radio over the phone using the site http://www.xstreamxm.com/mobile/ and my login/password for xm. I have the SERO package with unlimited data but I thought I would check with Sprint to make sure this is allowed. I called Tech support and the guy I spoke to said it was fine to data roam.
I was wondering if anyone else has an unlimited data plan but had to pay extra for data roaming. Or if anyone knows a reason why I shouldn't do this.
Thanks again,
Rick
dcd1182 said:
are you in a corporate area, or a sprint affiliate area? I live in iPCS land so I feel your pain.
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i am a ipcs dealer here in south bend, in. they just turned on evdo for the weekend to test it out for all the extra fans comming in to see the notre dame game. so far its pretty fast. i have evdo where i live in michigan, but when i go to work down here its right back to 1x. evdo is comming soon to the ipcs markets. just be patient. we expect it by the end of this year. hopefully q1 08
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I live in a Sprint covered area, but the dominant carrier here is Alltel. I heard that Sprint and Alltel share a roaming agreement, and I've noticed my phone switch to roam on occasion. On my phone settings, there is an option to force roaming and to allow data roaming. I selected both these choices and after a few moments, the phone showed that I was now roaming and the data indicator showed "EV" instead of "1X". I started internet explorer and it connected right up and worked much faster. Fast enough in fact that I could stream XM radio over the phone using the site http://www.xstreamxm.com/mobile/ and my login/password for xm. I have the SERO package with unlimited data but I thought I would check with Sprint to make sure this is allowed. I called Tech support and the guy I spoke to said it was fine to data roam.
I was wondering if anyone else has an unlimited data plan but had to pay extra for data roaming. Or if anyone knows a reason why I shouldn't do this.
Thanks again,
Rick
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i wouldnt go nuts with it, ive heard of peopel getting the accounts terminated because of excessive roaming (since sprint has to pay alltel for the use of their network)
but then again it could just be a rumor, personalyl i wouldnt overuse it
hey. the 1x is still about the same speed at the EDGE haha
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Ok as me and three others have spent the last 24 hours in a car driving from AZ to MN, I must say there were a few times, that no phone had any coverage of any sorts, and these are major highways. We went through a majority of Colorado, and various parts of Kansas, New Mexico coverage from att, vzw, or sprint. And at times we had 1x other times we had 1X than some times we had 3G. Never got any 4g.
I really think the carriers should focus on providing service in general first. You know how the government always talks about x% of people with out highspeed internet. Yea I can tell you exactly where that is!!! The middle of the country.
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Oh, so you're volunteering to pay for it?
Would be nice for sprint to expand the 3g by about 3 miles so I could have it at my house >.>
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Oh, so you're volunteering to pay for it?
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dont be a smart ass to a legitimate complaint that has plagued Sprint for a very very long time.
sprint is the worst, ok well t-mobile is worse....
you should never expect to have great or even sometimes good coverage when you are out driving.
really... this is sprint we're talking about.
i dont know why they abandoned their networks in favor of 4G (realistically they didnt, but they are sure ignoring problem areas) instead of helping their userbase grow and make more money by improving their existing infrastructure, and adding to it. adding to it .. and then adding to it.
4G is nice but its not cellular, it's wimax/data. even though the voice could be going over the 4G, i just dont know.
the cost isn't in the 4G gear, hell an ASN Gateway (used for authentication and allowing mobile devices to jump towers without loosing a signal, costs 10x or more what a 4G base station cost), the cost is in the labor of tower climbers, builders, etc. or and tower rental space.
if you have never heard what tower climbers cost per day or even per hour.. research it.. you'll sh|t yourself.
Yea even though this is in the evo forum and it started as a rant about sprint, its not just them, its vzw, att, and sprint.
No joke right now im tethered, I have 3g(roaming) in the middle nowhere iowa...ok cool,
but my buddy next to me, att has nothing in the past hour or so and my other buddy is vzw and has 1x on his blackberry for those who dont recall that is legacy digital service and isnt even 1X. He can send text messages thats it for get a voice call the signal is that poor, hes bouncing between 1x-3g.
The reality is data is nice, but when count on your phone and your a national carrier, perhaps you should focus on being able to actually make a call first.
Oh yeah, this is incredibly frustrating, and rarely use my phone to talk. I mean, I understand why they decided to start spending virtually all of their resources on 4g. They were dying - they had to do something drastic not just to come out on top, but to stay afloat at all. Ok. I get it. But goddamit, we went for a drive up in north nj, into pa, and even hit a bit if rural ny, without paying any attention to where we were going to end up. Had lunch down by the river, hit some little towns along the way. All in all, a nice day. Until I tried to use nav to get us home. No signal. At all. So no nav. Let's just say it took a bit longer to get home than we expected.
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Had motorola not sold the iridium project to the government and then lied to the public saying they lost investment and that it was a failure back in the 90's then this probably wouldnt be an issue today. (they still are very actively involved supporting and developing it and is very very much alive)
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Oh yeah, this is incredibly frustrating, and rarely use my phone to talk. I mean, I understand why they decided to start spending virtually all of their resources on 4g. They were dying - they had to do something drastic not just to come out on top, but to stay afloat at all. Ok. I get it. But goddamit, we went for a drive up in north nj, into pa, and even hit a bit if rural ny, without paying any attention to where we were going to end up. Had lunch down by the river, hit some little towns along the way. All in all, a nice day. Until I tried to use nav to get us home. No signal. At all. So no nav. Let's just say it took a bit longer to get home than we expected.
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which is exactly why i use copilot, data independent but see we recognize this fact. i knew there would be plenty of spots with out data, i knew gsm phones would have issues. but not even having 1x on a CDMA network is just wild especially when your driving established routes.
People rely on their phones from voice to nav. Alot of good, sprint nav, google nav, vzw nav do when you dont have service
Sprint sucks. I only switched to them because it would be cheaper for 3 lines than I was paying for AT&T ($200 plus). I only switched because I really dont go anywhere but my immediate area. God forbid if I have to rely on service while traveling cross country.
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Anyone notice sprints new coverage maps?
Seems better than verizon lol
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Why does that make you laugh?
Yeah why are you laughing lol
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looks better than verizon but not by much..since when did it change..last time i looked they barely had coverage
Coverage maps are estimations which really have no basis in reality.
Easily manipulated (like a few years ago with Verizon vs At&t where the maps used were not even close to accurate).
Talking about the Sprint.com/Coverage map? Because the Voice section doesn't differentiate between roaming and not.
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Talking about the Sprint.com/Coverage map? Because the Voice section doesn't differentiate between roaming and not.
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Yeah, it seems like Sprint finally figured out that the best way to sell their service is to lie like everyone else has been for years.
it only differentiates between roaming when zoomed in
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Yeah, it seems like Sprint finally figured out that the best way to sell their service is to lie like everyone else has been for years.
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yeah thats what i figured when I noticed I didnt see any roaming..every little thing sprint does now gets put under the microscope
This is actually an interesting topic because over the weekend I got a call from Sprint saying I live in a 100% roaming area and if my roaming usage doesn't get under 80%, they are force closing my account and waive ETF. The agent had me pull up their coverage map and come to find out I live 25 miles outside of sprints coverage network. I've only been with them going on three months now. And the store that I started my service at in my home town is getting "reported" for sale to an "out of network coverage customer". I just left the faschist nazi regime of AT&T to be able to actually afford to have a smart phone that I can actually use without being charged for going over my data limit. Now I'm being kicked from the company that has the perfect plan for my needs and go back to AT&T and go to the 2G limit cap data plan and pay $30 more a month then I am paying now as well. Verizon would cost me $55 more a month then what I pay now and I'm in roaming for them too. I'm basically stuck with AT&T now. And they dint have a single phone I would want either.
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This is actually an interesting topic because over the weekend I got a call from Sprint saying I live in a 100% roaming area and if my roaming usage doesn't get under 80%, they are force closing my account and waive ETF. The agent had me pull up their coverage map and come to find out I live 25 miles outside of sprints coverage network. I've only been with them going on three months now. And the store that I started my service at in my home town is getting "reported" for sale to an "out of network coverage customer". I just left the faschist nazi regime of AT&T to be able to actually afford to have a smart phone that I can actually use without being charged for going over my data limit. Now I'm being kicked from the company that has the perfect plan for my needs and go back to AT&T and go to the 2G limit cap data plan and pay $30 more a month then I am paying now as well. Verizon would cost me $55 more a month then what I pay now and I'm in roaming for them too. I'm basically stuck with AT&T now. And they dint have a single phone I would want either.
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What about tmobile also if u get a airrave u could plug it in n u wouldn't be roaming at your house
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ckoadiyn said:
What about tmobile also if u get a airrave u could plug it in n u wouldn't be roaming at your house
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I'm in the same boat, except I recently moved two miles outside the coverage area. They wouldn't do anything for me, including an airave. So, when at home, the old lady and I turn roaming off. We bought an Obi110 and set it up through google voice. So both our cell phone calls ring our VOIP phone, and texts come to our cells through our wifi.
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This is actually an interesting topic because over the weekend I got a call from Sprint saying I live in a 100% roaming area and if my roaming usage doesn't get under 80%, they are force closing my account and waive ETF. The agent had me pull up their coverage map and come to find out I live 25 miles outside of sprints coverage network. I've only been with them going on three months now. And the store that I started my service at in my home town is getting "reported" for sale to an "out of network coverage customer". I just left the faschist nazi regime of AT&T to be able to actually afford to have a smart phone that I can actually use without being charged for going over my data limit. Now I'm being kicked from the company that has the perfect plan for my needs and go back to AT&T and go to the 2G limit cap data plan and pay $30 more a month then I am paying now as well. Verizon would cost me $55 more a month then what I pay now and I'm in roaming for them too. I'm basically stuck with AT&T now. And they dint have a single phone I would want either.
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When you go shopping in a coverage area, leave your phone in the car and stream high bitrate music to get your in network usage over 20%
cev2387 said:
This is actually an interesting topic because over the weekend I got a call from Sprint saying I live in a 100% roaming area and if my roaming usage doesn't get under 80%, they are force closing my account and waive ETF. The agent had me pull up their coverage map and come to find out I live 25 miles outside of sprints coverage network. I've only been with them going on three months now. And the store that I started my service at in my home town is getting "reported" for sale to an "out of network coverage customer". I just left the faschist nazi regime of AT&T to be able to actually afford to have a smart phone that I can actually use without being charged for going over my data limit. Now I'm being kicked from the company that has the perfect plan for my needs and go back to AT&T and go to the 2G limit cap data plan and pay $30 more a month then I am paying now as well. Verizon would cost me $55 more a month then what I pay now and I'm in roaming for them too. I'm basically stuck with AT&T now. And they dint have a single phone I would want either.
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Dude, that sucks.
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What company doesn't lie? You can tell just by watching the commercials. Everyone company says their better than their competitors, that's just the way it is.
Problem is the roaming agreements. After "buying up" all the mom and pop local companies over the years and Alltel, Verizon pretty much has 100% coverage on their own, thus do not have to rely on mutually beneficial roaming agreements with Sprint. Hence starting in 2011, it equates to 69 cents a minute charged back to Sprint from Verizon for every minute I roam (bend over sprint...Thanks, your friends @ Verizon.)
Note --- this is not made up, it is information shared with me from management at Sprint after I got "the letter" to where Sprint was demanding an end to our 12 year relationship....One of which I had been very happy with (and hold no ill will towards them -- I actually think Verizon is the evil one here.)
Just 2 bad I live more than 1 mile away from the interstate and Sprint has no incentive to install towers in lesser populated areas.
alero said:
I'm in the same boat, except I recently moved two miles outside the coverage area. They wouldn't do anything for me, including an airave. So, when at home, the old lady and I turn roaming off. We bought an Obi110 and set it up through google voice. So both our cell phone calls ring our VOIP phone, and texts come to our cells through our wifi.
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txt's use the 2g radio.. you don't need 3g or a wifi or 4g to get text messages.
txts arent going to raise your data usage in roaming. I don't think text's even count towards anything roaming since its just a few bytes of data it is so insignificant.
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What company doesn't lie? You can tell just by watching the commercials. Everyone company says their better than their competitors, that's just the way it is.
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I'm really sick of that response, with all due respect.
That is not an excuse to do something.
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Problem is the roaming agreements. After "buying up" all the mom and pop local companies over the years and Alltel, Verizon pretty much has 100% coverage on their own, thus do not have to rely on mutually beneficial roaming agreements with Sprint. Hence starting in 2011, it equates to 69 cents a minute charged back to Sprint from Verizon for every minute I roam (bend over sprint...Thanks, your friends @ Verizon.)
Note --- this is not made up, it is information shared with me from management at Sprint after I got "the letter" to where Sprint was demanding an end to our 12 year relationship....One of which I had been very happy with (and hold no ill will towards them -- I actually think Verizon is the evil one here.)
Just 2 bad I live more than 1 mile away from the interstate and Sprint has no incentive to install towers in lesser populated areas.
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Verizon's voice network may cover a good portion of the country but their 3g doesn't cover as much as that map they used against At&t said.
Verizon roams on Cricket, Virgin, Sprint, Boost, and Metro towers as well.
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txt's use the 2g radio.. you don't need 3g or a wifi or 4g to get text messages.
txts arent going to raise your data usage in roaming. I don't think text's even count towards anything roaming since its just a few bytes of data it is so insignificant.
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Huh? Texts do not use any data or any data radio.
Texts are over the cdma radio with voice.
You can turn data off and text.
wtf verizon roams?
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wtf verizon roams?
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Really...Duh?
I have Verizon which I get a corporate discount. I love that I never drop a call But i've noticed that inside buildings data drops a lot even at work I rarely get stable 4g or 3g unlike some that have at&t. coworkers get perfect 3g with at&t... I don't know what to do cause I love Verizon but this is driving me crazy....and I don't have wifi at work
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I have Verizon which I get a corporate discount. I love that I never drop a call But i've noticed that inside buildings data drops a lot even at work I rarely get stable 4g or 3g unlike some that have at&t. coworkers get perfect 3g with at&t... I don't know what to do cause I love Verizon but this is driving me crazy....and I don't have wifi at work
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Are you grandfathered into unlimited data with Verizon? AT&T is not without its woes. Customer service, overtaxed network, dropped calls and dead spots, updates to phones are pretty slow... If you are rooted you may be able to connect to the internet through USB.
Depends on the area you are in mostly. All networks have their own issues. I'm on Sprint, but Verizon would be my next choice... if only I could have unlimited data...
You could ask 50 people and get 50% one way and the other 50% the other way. I've had great luck with AT&T. I've had very few dropped calls in the five years I've been with them. I've had great luck with customer service. I'm grandfathered into unlimited so I can't imagine leaving to a company that doesn't have unlimited data now. I think Sprint and Tmobile are the only ones left and both those companys seem to have a lot of problem wtih reception, dead areas, and dropped calls here.
My only complaint is that software updates don't seem to come as quickly to AT&T as other companys.
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neither, is better use t-mobile
Like others have said, a lot of it is variable on where you live. Here in Central PA, I had tons of issues with AT&T (dropped calls, circuits full, etc), and have had none of the same issues with Verizon. When driving from AZ to CA last summer, I had full bars of 3G most of the time, while my friend's iPhone (AT&T) didn't have 3G most of the time. So, I prefer Verizon, based on my experiences.
I seems like you have made your mind. But like, kiltedthrower, not having unlimited data would be a killer. Thats' another reason why I don't change to Verizon. Verizon is a great company. Everyone that has Verizon in SoCal that I know have great reception. So it's up to you...
Just got a letter from Sprint, telling me control my internet usage within 10 days.... Otherwise they will kick me out. Sprint MOD EDIT: WATCH YOUR LANGUAJE, don't advertise as unlimited and then send these threatening letters to your customers.
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Thats why I left sprint...they crippled...errr completely removed tethering from my Palm device. I used to be able to tether via bluetooth, then one day was greeted with a message to contact CS. when i called to inquire about the loss of functionality, they told me that they now only offer that service functionality for their new top of the line devices (at the time was the Evo 4G). I told them that they need to change the name of the "Simple Everything Data" Plan, to the "Almost Everything Data" Plan. I was so angry I broke contract and canceled service right then and went to TMO. I 2nd what you say about sprint.
They only send that letter if you abuse roaming (which is outlined in your ToS) they do not send the letter if you overuse sprints network
Thanks for trying, stop trying to sound innocent and making sprint look like the bad guy
Have you ever heard of a fair use policy?
Sprints network has very little bandwidth 3G wise due to using outdated tech, so if your a heavy user on 3G it affects their other users.
This is the easiest way out of any contract download several gigs of data (while roaming) in a few days on your phone and they will gladly kill your contract for you.**
Personally I bought roam control (for CDMA only) for my phone just so I could force it to roam (in my valley sprint service sucks) so while I'm home I force it to use Verizon's network which as you might guess makes Sprint real happy
-Ice
**I suppose I should add that I do not endorse this method for getting out of your contract & trying this method may end badly (500 page long multi-thousand dollar bill) if they catch on to what your doing.
lol, you must be using a lot of data!
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Have you ever heard of a fair use policy?
Sprints network has very little bandwidth 3G wise due to using outdated tech, so if your a heavy user on 3G it affects their other users.
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Fair use means that if i am sold something as unlimited i should use it in that way.
That so call fair use policy is only fair on Sprint and T-mobile not on customers which are the ones that pay the monthly fee,and the reason why those companies exist,without me and you and the other sprint is just a bunch of empty useless antennas.
Is not my fault that they use outdated tech,in fact when i bought my Epic 4G touch 2 days ago no one from Sprint told me their network was as slow as 1998 DSL connections,and that their tech was outdated and that their wimax network is nothing but fake crap that only very few people can take advantage of.
They told me the phone was great and that the network was fast,not to mention the whole 4G crap hipping.
The only problem i see here is Sprint fault not his fault,is not his fault that Sprint used outdated tech i am sure no one when he bough the phone told him,hey we have and old crappy network so don't use it to much,even that is the only one advertised as ""Truly"" Unlimited and uncapped.
pretty lame company, offer you "unlimited" then complain you are downloading too much WTF
I don't understand why 'unlimited' is supposed to be Sprint's big selling point. Their 3G speeds are pathetic in most places, and even when the coverage map shows you squarely under 4G, you probably won't get it--especially if you're inside any sort of building, or God forbid, in a car.
I personally wanted 5GB of fast, reliable bandwidth than all you can eat crap, so I left.
I worked in a Sprint store before, and even before that, I received one of these letters. As someone stated above, it only applies to roaming, which costs them a lot of money once you pass your allowed amounts. They have an agreement with Verizon and roaming (and Verizon has one with Sprint). The rules are:
- 300 MB of roaming
- More than half of your minutes used for 3 consecutive months are roaming minutes
- Most of your text messaging (although I'm not sure on this one)
Chances are, you're either using a PRL hack, Roam Control (which is now off the Market I believe), or you just live in an area with ****ty Sprint signal. If the latter is the case, just save yourself the trouble and switch to another provider.
Haven't had any problems with sprint other than hitting their bandwidth throttle. Seemed to limit my down rates to 300Kb/s at first then just cripple to a trickle after that.
Did you have a high spike in usage? Did you move into a highly populated area?
These could be why. For example; 25GB, 41GB, 33GB, 44GB; Those are my usages for the last 4 billing cycles. I transfer a lot of data over wifi, my home network, and other networks. Along with solely high quality video and audio [MOG, Rhapsody] streams. I've never received a letter or complaint.
Just got a letter from sprint saying exactly what the OP said. Not roaming but "unlimited data" usage. I'm always on 4g and I used about 109gb of data this month. They said if I don't control it they will terminate my contract. That's a lot of data I know but unlimited is unlimited!!! F them!
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Just got a letter from sprint saying exactly what the OP said. Not roaming but "unlimited data" usage. I'm always on 4g and I used about 109gb of data this month. They said if I don't control it they will terminate my contract. That's a lot of data I know but unlimited is unlimited!!! F them!
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Even I would argue against you dude. 109GB is an insane amount. They mean unlimited to a reasonable amount. My friend goes to 60GB and doesn't get warned. You must've went crazy with your data to make them warn you.
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If it does happen, just start up a prepaid number somewhere and port it out. Then port it back into Sprint. They have no say then.
just to clarify, as I work for sprint currently:
Updating your PRL does nothing, other than tell the phone which towers have lower roaming costs. (on sprint)
Verizon doesn't roam on any network. (I was a verizon manager as well) If you have a vzw phone, you won't roam at all.
If your using 109 gb's a month and complaining about sprint saying something to you, I would reccommend getting an actual home internet connection instead of using it for tethering so much.
As far as the roaming stuff, yes, if you roam a ton while with sprint, they can release you from the contract, but its not an automatic thing. A lot of times you will have to call cs a few times (because sprint CS sucks, and are a bunch of morons usually) and have them pull the account and see how much you are roaming and how many dropped calls, ect, are.
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just to clarify, as I work for sprint currently:
Updating your PRL does nothing, other than tell the phone which towers have lower roaming costs. (on sprint)
Verizon doesn't roam on any network. (I was a verizon manager as well) If you have a vzw phone, you won't roam at all.
If your using 109 gb's a month and complaining about sprint saying something to you, I would reccommend getting an actual home internet connection instead of using it for tethering so much.
As far as the roaming stuff, yes, if you roam a ton while with sprint, they can release you from the contract, but its not an automatic thing. A lot of times you will have to call cs a few times (because sprint CS sucks, and are a bunch of morons usually) and have them pull the account and see how much you are roaming and how many dropped calls, ect, are.
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I was a technician at both Sprint and Verizon and I can tell you Verizon roams on Sprint. It happens a lot on my campus.
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Oh, sweet. This argument again. Please read the 'unlimited' agreement you have with Sprint. Please note the conditions which apply. Please note what specific data activities you are permitted in the agreement. Note also the prohibited activities. Finally, pay close attention to the bottom of this contract where you electronically signed and acknowledged/agreed to all the conditions which they are well within their rights to enforce.
109gb of data is quite a bit. How does one's handheld use that much data in a month?
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Oh, sweet. This argument again. Please read the 'unlimited' agreement you have with Sprint. Please note the conditions which apply. Please note what specific data activities you are permitted in the agreement. Note also the prohibited activities. Finally, pay close attention to the bottom of this contract where you electronically signed and acknowledged/agreed to all the conditions which they are well within their rights to enforce.
109gb of data is quite a bit. How does one's handheld use that much data in a month?
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Tethering, obviously. I'm ok with tethering to a reasonable amount (ie to browse the web for a little while when there's no connection), or even to download a couple of gigs (on 4G) but 109GB is ridiculous and I side with Sprint in this case.
Verizon throttled me for using 89GB ONE time, and then throttled me at 12gb. Now I have only used 5GB on my verizon phone so they don't come down with the throttle hamer of doom. Just giving a heads up that verizon is not true unlimited.
Proof:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCbvDEewcJU&feature=channel&list=UL
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