'Pocket dialing' major problem - HD2 General

I've got a new T-Mo HD2, and I'm having a problem that either after a call (I use BT headset alot) or when an alarm sounds, the HD is active long enough to dial numbers and/or for instance compose a senseless text, meaning the screen can be touched and activate functions during this time. An ideal solution woudl be for the proximity sensor to disable the screen all the time, not just during a call. Fallback woudl be for these functions not to activate a live screen after the phone has been locked. Tried searching, no obvious answer to this one. Thanks in advance.

dbh369 said:
I've got a new T-Mo HD2, and I'm having a problem that either after a call (I use BT headset alot) or when an alarm sounds, the HD is active long enough to dial numbers and/or for instance compose a senseless text, meaning the screen can be touched and activate functions during this time. An ideal solution woudl be for the proximity sensor to disable the screen all the time, not just during a call. Fallback woudl be for these functions not to activate a live screen after the phone has been locked. Tried searching, no obvious answer to this one. Thanks in advance.
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I use PocketShield. It works like a charm. I never have to worry about the problem you described above.
Here's a link:
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
Good luck!
Peter

Thanks Peter, this looks like what I was asking for, except that it is paid...;-(
I was wondering if there was a free fix, and/or if this was a common problem (seems like it would be). I'll download the demo and see how it goes.
Thanks,
Dave

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light sensor app like Iphone (incall screen off)

I was wondering if there's a app that allows the screen to turn off when you put the phone to you head? Then when you bring it out and in front of you, it turns back on. My Iphone did that and I loved that feature.
upping cause i'm intersted too
im believe this feature on the iphone is provided by a proximity sensor, you can probable do this with the light sensor but it would only work in the day time bc at night the screen would always be off...
not unless you use the gsensor too? i think if you work with the light sensor and the gsensor..you can get it to work. maybe have it only work when theres a active call.
This is an extremely good idea!
now if I was only a programmer
i'd love to see this feature on my diamond/blackstone too, i always have problems with the cursor jumping somewhere else when taking a note while in call...
theres already a thread about that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451456
sweet. thanks
I really love that fuction on iPhone as well. I found some program that can adjust the Light Sensor to dim the back light as you want. I never try it but surely not work in the dark. If any news on this issue, pls advise!!
I think the g-sensor is the answer, off course in combination with light sensor. If someone could make an app that would turn off the backlight during an active call AND when phone is in vertical position; this could resolve difficulties with light sensor.
aonavy said:
I was wondering if there's a app that allows the screen to turn off when you put the phone to you head? Then when you bring it out and in front of you, it turns back on. My Iphone did that and I loved that feature.
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There are a couple out there that attempt to solve the same problem the iPhone does.
One I know of is Touchlock Pro - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
It is free but it still has a little way to go before it is a polished solution
The other is PocketShield -- http://www.pocketshield.net/
It's not free but I found it so effective for the in-call problem as well as general locking/unlocking that it was worth paying for
I've also, as a developer by trade, played with the light sensor, g-sensor, and stylus sensor APIs and tried to create a basic proof of concept that solved just the in-call problem very well and found that without the approach taken by Pocketshield it just was not reliable enough for me.
fireweed said:
There are a couple out there that attempt to solve the same problem the iPhone does.
One I know of is Touchlock Pro - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
It is free but it still has a little way to go before it is a polished solution
The other is PocketShield -- http://www.pocketshield.net/
It's not free but I found it so effective for the in-call problem as well as general locking/unlocking that it was worth paying for
I've also, as a developer by trade, played with the light sensor, g-sensor, and stylus sensor APIs and tried to create a basic proof of concept that solved just the in-call problem very well and found that without the approach taken by Pocketshield it just was not reliable enough for me.
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All these programms are great software but are nowhere near the iphone solution... like i already said, the problem is e.g. that if you are on the phone and the person on the other end tells you a phonenumber you need to write down - the cursor always jumps to somewhere else as soon as you put your phone back to your ear (and then take it away again ofcourse to continue to notice the number).
ive messed with those apps before with no luch for what i was looking for. Simple app...JUST for incall and end call. light goesout..then comes back in. those other apps are pretty detaild
pitchbend said:
All these programms are great software but are nowhere near the iphone solution...
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Very true, but unfortunately this hardware does not have the same sensor as the iPhone so you can only fake it so much.
I'd love to see this developed as well. But just wondering as some have mentioned using the gsensor; what if your laying down using the phone?
any developers out there. this would be awsome. make it simple. only works when the phone is in call. the gsensor sensing the phone from 0-45 degrees and only 0-5% light. seems sorta simple when u look at it like that.
hey everyone. My HTC Touch Pro came with this functionality out of the box. And i really don't like it at all. I think the difference to the iphone is that the screen does not turn back on until the power button is pressed.
millab said:
hey everyone. My HTC Touch Pro came with this functionality out of the box. And i really don't like it at all. I think the difference to the iphone is that the screen does not turn back on until the power button is pressed.
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My diamond does this already?
mine didnt. very weird.
For what it's worth, S2U2 v.1.42 has an option called "blank screen on call" which essentially disables the touch screen and makes it turn off when a call is connected (both sent and received). To get the screen to turn back on, simply press any hardware button. (Note though that pressing the END button while on a call will end the call as well as turning on the screen.)
I've found this feature to be VERY useful and figured it's as close as we're going to get for the time being .

Failing to Answer Calls

I have a real dilemma in that I think the HTC is so much better than other devices I've had but it's terrible in terms of one feature - answering phonecalls. Initially, I spent several days inadvertently calling friends and colleagues from my pocket. A bit of research and I installed the S2U2 locker. That work insofar as I stopped calling people at random but S2U2 - or S2U2 and the other software I have installed - conspired together in such a way that it was almost impossible to slide/tap/punch/kick my phone when an incoming call was shown to speak to the person. I missed 90% of incoming calls due to my device ignoring my attempts to answer the call. I've since uninstalled this and installed LockMeLite which was a gem for a couple of days. And then today the same thing happened. I couldn't unlock my handset as the "incoming call" pop-up was covering it. And another (this time, pretty important) call went to voicemail. I really can't go on like this. Does anyone have a better solution or is it time for me to go back to Nokia? I need a smartphone, not a PDA...
Thanks.
HD Tweak and set it to lock when the phone is on standby, then when a call comes in just press the lest phone key and it answers, works fine for me.
Thanks, I'll try that. I have HD Tweak installed, but that's something I haven't tried changing.
better yet, don't install those locking apps.
Try PocketShield.
It locks your device and has a differente unlocking method on incoming calls that allows you to unlock+answer and unlock+refuse call.
Perhaps Psygnosis84 didn't follow my original post - I installed "those locking apps" because I kept accidently calling people when the HD was in my pocket.
Thanks, syqe, for the tip. What KickAssMoves suggested (the setting in HD Tweak) has worked fine so far, but I'll try PocketShield as well.
This is a critical design flaw in my opinion and suggests the handset wasn't properly tested before being released.
telemecko said:
Perhaps Psygnosis84 didn't follow my original post - I installed "those locking apps" because I kept accidently calling people when the HD was in my pocket.
Thanks, syqe, for the tip. What KickAssMoves suggested (the setting in HD Tweak) has worked fine so far, but I'll try PocketShield as well.
This is a critical design flaw in my opinion and suggests the handset wasn't properly tested before being released.
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I agreed with you, I also had the same problem before.. IMO, I think what KickAssMoves suggested is not so good compare to Pocketshield.
For me, HDtweak has a backlight problem when unlock it, light doesn't turn on until I press the power button. You also need to tab 2 times to unlock everytimes(not during the incoming call)
Pocketshield gives you free to unlock with light sensor, gesture(shaking) or move your finger..and many more to choose from.. which is much more convinient.
Why don't you just use the standard lock methods (aka pressing the power button or holding the end call button to lock the screen)? I use these methods and i have never had my hd randomly call anyone and when a call comes in the locks automatically disable for you to slide the answer/reject slider
pantyryder69's answer might as well be "well, this doesn't happen to me, why don't you try again?". Maybe I have fat fingers. Or weak ones. Or funny shapes in my pockets.
I tried Pocketshield but two things went against it. The trial's nag - a delay of 10 seconds - had me uninstalling it within a couple of hours. I can't test a piece of software with those sort of annoyances (it's the writers' perogative but their nag actually interfered with me trying to test if it had the funcationality I want). I found I had the same problem anyway, it locked my phone and I had to do a soft reset to get it back working (not sure what it was related to, possibly the nag screen).
I'm back to the HD Tweak solution of using the Windows Mobile screenlock. The screen dimming is annoying, but it does seem to work. I have to say, I'll be looking at an iPhone next time.
Hi telemecko, its known that at some point the "nag" screen caused some trouble, but in the latest builds that has been addressed:
(taken from http://www.pocketshield.net/download.htm)
4/10/09: Builds 2.6.2.X:
•Voice mail icon display issue (Omnia)
•After calls from unkown contacts, caller avatar stayed visible.
•Lock screen issue during process of dialing (fixed).
•Light sensor at dark reading 1 lumen when playing musig caused unlock (Omnia).
•"Evaluation" message caused some issues (fixed).
telemecko said:
pantyryder69's answer might as well be "well, this doesn't happen to me, why don't you try again?". Maybe I have fat fingers. Or weak ones. Or funny shapes in my pockets.
I tried Pocketshield but two things went against it. The trial's nag - a delay of 10 seconds - had me uninstalling it within a couple of hours. I can't test a piece of software with those sort of annoyances (it's the writers' perogative but their nag actually interfered with me trying to test if it had the funcationality I want). I found I had the same problem anyway, it locked my phone and I had to do a soft reset to get it back working (not sure what it was related to, possibly the nag screen).
I'm back to the HD Tweak solution of using the Windows Mobile screenlock. The screen dimming is annoying, but it does seem to work. I have to say, I'll be looking at an iPhone next time.
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I'm facing similar problems with answering incoming calls. If it wasn't for the backlight problem, the tweak solution would be the best by far.
Did Pocketshield work fine for you ?
Not sure if anyone is following this now, anyway pocketchield works great. its made my life so much easier, no problem of random unlocking and ghost calls anymore!

Problem while on hands free....the phone is unlocked in pocket!!!!!

Hi all
So i got my HTC HD2 nice feel to it....but..
2 things :
1:while i have handsfree on i answer a call as always and the phone unlockes in my pocket a.s.a i answer and then...well buttons keep pushing and calls keep shutting off e.t.c
i called HTC and they said nothing they can do and that there is a 3rd party app to fix this....well i am to "stupid" cause i cant find it..
plz help.
2:Very sensitive screen and i have dificulty figuring out hoe to change that..
thnx allot guys for "listening" hope to get some answers...esspecially for nr1 its a pain....
Hi,
I know you are new on here but a few threads up from yours you would have found this one...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
Take time out to read it and you should find answers to at least some of your problems.
Good luck
WB
The screen is capacitive, so it shouldnt be possible for anything to be pressed in your pocket.
loomx said:
The screen is capacitive, so it shouldnt be possible for anything to be pressed in your pocket.
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Whilst the screen is capacitive, the material of a pocket may be thin enough to still allow a key press to register.
Also I believe the hard keys would still be available to press and could hang up the call.
I think there is an issue with the keypad becoming active while on a call.
I've used this phone since launch and it's driving me nuts.
One of the main problems is the proximity sensor which should turn off the touch screen during an active call intermittently doesn't work.
I called my wife today and cut her off at least twice because of this bug.
There is a reg tweek to reduce the sensitivity of the screen- you have to google it.
SMS is alos occasionally sticking.
I'm going to start a new thread to ask if 1.61 cure these issues.

troubles with proximity sensor

hi all,
i have Some problem with the proximity sensor.
when i lanch a call, first i put the phone near My head, the phone goes black,
but 2 seconds after, when It start tonning (ringing in the speaker) the phone wake up.
if i put It off and back It goes off.
but when the person answer, It's the same thing, the phone wake up. and i must put It off the head and back.
if i dont do this i cut All people 3 or 4 times.
if i receive a call, no problem.
i know some people have already post same problem with proximity sensor, but nobody explain it.
if someone can help me to fix it.
(sorry for my English )
im sorry but I really need help
Hi ! I`m so sorry but I cant help you. The proximity sensor did act strange on me with no obvious reason and I was forced to hard reset ...
Cordialement ,
Sergiu
Even if i hard reset, there is no change.
If i call someone, on each step the phone switch on :
when start ringing ... and after when the person answer ...
is there a registry to edit, or maybe a ROM update ?? im in 1.43
But if i update the ROM i'll loose my orange tv player app
You may try to flash another ROM at your choice ...
I know this might sound a strange question, but do you have long hair?
I only ask as this issue has been raised by a few other people, and most of them have said it either happens with their girlfriends (who have long hair), or that they have long hair.
I have short hair and I literally couldn't be more impressed with the proximity sensor.
lol, no ...
i' ve short hair.
i tried with the finger hidding the proximity sensor, and i can see when the phone start ringing it wake up, and the same thing when the person answer, or answering machin.
so it's a software problem.
i tried to update the ROM, and it says it can't update
maybe because i'm on French Orange ROM .
i'm sure if i can update with RUU rom, it will work fine after
I have this problem occasionally. It seems the proximity sensor somehow cooperates with G-sensor, because last time I had this problem I was lying in bed while calling, and screen simply did not turn of. But when I turned the phone vertically, and back, it started to work. Very strange.
so i upload the ROM to an officialy 1.48 (i have no orange rom and app now)
but still the same problem.
the phone goes black, but wake up when start ringing, and same when the person answer the call
i need help, because each time i cut always the call if my hear touch "end call".
now to keep the call i put it back from my head and back to when start ringing, and i do the same 5 seconds later when the person answer.
and after its ok, the phone stay off
i love this phone, but i'm sad
I guess it's a bug HTC will have to fix at some time. I've read it can happen to all ROMs.
But for the meantime, there's a workaround. You can install S2U2, it's a nice program. and one of its features allows you to choose "blank screen on talk". Never fails. Try it. No more accidental button clicks.
Thx a lot i'll try it (try to find it before )
maybe someone can make a soft to have a slide to unlock while calling ??!!
but i'll try your soft and tell you
same problem with my hd2....despite I tryied several rom on several build.
just a hint: don't activate "sms wakeup" (BSB allows that), because if u receive a message during a call, display will activate again!
It's a big issue, coz I cut many calls or I push buttons during a call...
I need a cab to lock the screen during a call!
ok i try S2U2, but difficult to configure...
always the same thing.
i found that not all numbers bug !!
i try a friends and all is ok, but my wife or my mother or others it bug
i dont know why some work and other not
i some one can help me trying configure S2U2 ???
or a cab just maybe to slide unlock while calling, something like that.
are we only 2 with that bug ????
it's not about the number u call, it's about simple casistic! try to recall the same number once the black screen doesn't work...try and it's gonna work! it's how sensor application works....just when it wants!
everythin was right with the resistive screen, but the capacitive one needs to a different lock.
i test sevral times on the sames numbers.
always my friend number 1 work nice, and all others not
it's very strange !
after call, press windows key and then lock pad.... I am doing this now cause of occasional problems....
yep, its a way...
but it's so strange.
i see when i try to call a home phone all is ok.
and some operators just bug the proximity sensor !!??!!??
So strange.
i just try another rom (an english one) but the same thing
and i have some trouble to make a god configuration for S2U2
so still no solutions... thats too bad
Hi all,
I come back to you to explain the situation now.
I call the orange center for smartphone, and i explain my troubles, it was last thursday.
So they change my phone last friday.
I tried directly, and exactly the same problem.
i called them again, and explain again, then they change it an other time.
This morning they come change it for the 2nd time, i try directly again,
then the same thing. alwayes the same problem.
so i call them again, and they say someone call me in this week to talk about the trouble.
i try other orange sim card, and same problem.
so in all my contact list, i've only 2 numbers which there is no trouble.
For all others numbers, the phone wake up each time.
PS : the orange service has nobody instead of me who have this trouble
anyone have a solution ????
proximity problems
Hi,
i also have the proximity sensor problem (or rather wife has)
HTC HD2 on UK o2 operator ROM
as i said, wife has a problem of screen activating during calls, it has not happened to me yet ?
noticed she always holds the phone to her left ear (wont change sides she says), i hold it to the right ear !
really need a fix for this as she threw it at me tonight as she cut off a really important call ! !
After two weeks testing I found out that the original screen protector with the two holes for the sensor makes the problems!!!
thake the screen protector out or cut it and the proximity sensor will work perfect.
Kochavy

Annoying Auto LCD Turn Off While Making Call

Hi all, I absolutely love the HD2. However, I find one really annoying problem about the "auto LCD shut off between dialing and after a call is connected, and this has been really driving me crazy! I'm not sure why no one has mentioned about this, is it because it is my problem of mis-using it or no one has bothered to voice it up?? I apologized if this has been posted but I couldn't find one solution so far.
It is about the auto LCD shut off sensor feature while making a call. My English is not that good, my mother tongue is Chinese, I will try my best to describe the problem written in English. I've tried so many cooked roms, all have the same old frustrating issue. After when I've dialed a number, as most ppl do, I will put the phone near my ear while waiting for the call to get connected. However, in the process while making the call while the phone is near my ear, the LCD will shut off by itself, and when a call is connected, the annoying issue will occur! When a call is connected, the LCD will turn back on by itself even though the phone is still in tack with the ear, as a result, part of our face will make contact on the screen and very often pressing one of the on-screen buttons! Also, it is not only this problem will happen after a call is connected, during a process of calling or during a conversation, if there is a notification prompted out, for example, a sms have been received, or a email has been received or low battery notification, the LCD will always turn back on and make the face accidentally press on one of the on-screen button, this is really annoying, is there a solution to let the sensor shut off the LCD for good until the phone has really get away from the ear and the face???
It's not a problem
It's an advantage
HTC did that to prevent you from touching anything with your ear and you cheek and maybe without this you could end the call accidentally or lunching apps so and so .....
Some people have found that this happens when their screen protector is too close or covering the sensor. Cutting away a small ammount of the screen protector to make sure it doesn't interfere with the sensor seems to be the answer.
Not sure you have read his question correctly - it turns off when he puts it to his head, which he wants, but then it turns back on again when the call connects.
I have the same problem, (incidentally had the same problem with a Diamond and Omnia II with Tachi phone canvas). Only solution was to breifly move it away from your head and back again, which I just got used to.
No idea how to solve it though. Sorry.
[APP] Proximity Sensor for Screen Off v0.2
Maybe you should look for this little app, it could work for you.
I can't post links, so make a search inside xda, there's a topic with that title.....
peacebank said:
Not sure you have read his question correctly - it turns off when he puts it to his head, which he wants, but then it turns back on again when the call connects.
I have the same problem, (incidentally had the same problem with a Diamond and Omnia II with Tachi phone canvas). Only solution was to breifly move it away from your head and back again, which I just got used to.
No idea how to solve it though. Sorry.
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yes, the first 2 replies didn't get what my question is, sorry for the misunderstanding if I've made any.
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[APP] Proximity Sensor for Screen Off v0.2
Maybe you should look for this little app, it could work for you.
I can't post links, so make a search inside xda, there's a topic with that title.....
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thank you so much! I will look for it, and hope it is a solution.

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