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alu case / proporta

I dropped my xda 1 twice and had to get it repaired. For my xda2 I tried to get a good, secure solution to cover it.
Proporta seems to have a perfect alu case, but I heard that there is a problem with the gsm/gprs connectivity in the closed case.
After getting the info, that there is no cutting in signal strength, I ordered a propota and got on saturday. It does really cut minimum two bars of signal strenth, that means in some areas there is no more signal at all ( in my home for example) and the xda is constantly searching a connection...
But there is a whole in the back beside the camera whole. This is meant for the connection of an external anntena.. So would it be possible to get a connector for that anntena and ad a selfmade thin anntena on the alu case from proporta. I´m absolutly double lefthanded concerning technical things: can anybody tell me if this might be possible and get a good signal in the closed alucase???

Link to proporta case
Do you have the link to the web-site- I have been looking for a secure case
Thnks

never had a prob with signal on my properta aluminium case for xda 1 :\

That's because the XDA I has a dirty great external aerial, whereas the XDA II has a built in one. Hence when you completely enclose it in aluminum it kills the signal.

i dont think it kills signal they wouldnt design a case that does that...
you can put a 3310 inside a metal tin and still ahve signal so it shouldnt effect an triband phone

Have a look at the many posts on these forums, and over at Tekguru, from people who own the Proporta case, including myself, and most say that it definitely does reduce signal strength. It doesn't actually kill it, but it reduces it by a good 2 bars, and lets face it if you're with O2 that's enought to kill it in most circumstances.
I can only report my own findings, but as far as I'm concerned it DEFINITELY reduces signal strength.

Rogh Case for XDAII
I only have an XDA I, but:
Send me a few XDA IIs and I'll make a super tough custom case for you. The material will be Kevlar* fiber reinforced plastic with a little carbon fiber reinforcement here and there. A case like that would cut absolutely no signal stength but withstand your girl stepping onto it with the heel of her stilettos or dropping it on the floor. For a few more XDA IIs I'll make it withstand driving over it in your car as well.
How much would you be willing to pay for such a case, in case you don't have any surplus XDA II to send me?
Martin Kopplow
* similar to the stuff they make bullet proof vests of, but not as flexible.

I have the proporta alu case for both my XDA and XDA II - no signal problems on either devices when in the closed case.
Jon.

These cases are now being sold through o2 store's.
We got 5 in today and there great well reccomended

What price, they are selling for 19.99 on ebay UK.

There going for £24.99 and there the same ones they eb=ven have the company name properta on the insdie.
We only got them today so I doubt any store has them on the shop floor so go in and ask for them
The manager did our ones for £10 so i'm happy.

I just received a message that Innopocket will do the aluminum case for the MDAII/XDAII as well. they will add them to their website today.

My XDA II Porporta Aluminium Case does not reduce my radio signal strength at all either.....Bluetooth remains the same.... :roll:
One thing to note about the Proporta Aluminium Case, the screw which goes onto the caseing itself for usage with the belt clip losens over a period of time casing the unit to drop off from your belt. Do take note of that. I had mine dropping off even though i was sure i had the screw really tight in the case itself :lol:

Hi,
I´ve cut a windows in the case to see who is calling. Signal strenght now is as good as w/o case.
regards
Wolfgang

Nice work
I also have to do some modification on the proporta case, because if you want to use the headphone, the plastic cover is in the way. so i have to make it a bit bigger in the cover

xtac said:
My XDA II Porporta Aluminium Case does not reduce my radio signal strength at all either.....Bluetooth remains the same.... :roll:
One thing to note about the Proporta Aluminium Case, the screw which goes onto the caseing itself for usage with the belt clip losens over a period of time casing the unit to drop off from your belt. Do take note of that. I had mine dropping off even though i was sure i had the screw really tight in the case itself :lol:
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I have put a drop of Loctite on the threads so when tightened it will never come loose.
But I never use the darn thing now as it kills off the signal completly. 2 bars at the best of time round here.
Might be interested in the kevlar idea if it looks cool. Thats the reason I have an Alu case cos it looks cool.

I have the proporta Al case and it drops at least 2 bars when it is enclosed too. I also had the idea of a flexible thin antenna attached to the back of the case but I can't seem to find the details on the external antenna connector.
If the external antenna connectors are proprietary, why doesn't O2 release the connector? How can a company advertise having the ability to connect to an external antenna if the plug is not available to fit the socket? Does anyone know if the antenna connectors are the same between xda2 and iMate?
It gets even more annoying when it has been out of range for a few minutes and it gets lazy and decides to stop trying to reconnect to GSM and seems to crash the radio stack.

snowdude said:
I have the proporta Al case and it drops at least 2 bars when it is enclosed too. I also had the idea of a flexible thin antenna attached to the back of the case but I can't seem to find the details on the external antenna connector.
If the external antenna connectors are proprietary, why doesn't O2 release the connector? How can a company advertise having the ability to connect to an external antenna if the plug is not available to fit the socket? Does anyone know if the antenna connectors are the same between xda2 and iMate?
It gets even more annoying when it has been out of range for a few minutes and it gets lazy and decides to stop trying to reconnect to GSM and seems to crash the radio stack.
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I too have been looking for the connector for months now, with no luck.
I have also noticed once the phone is out of range for a few minutes, it never bothers to try and reconnect. I am hoping the new firmware will fix this.

I have just installed the new radio stack et al. It may lower the chances of the stack crashing or giving up trying to connect, but I doubt it will provide greater coverage.

it's a nice case mod that one though i would prob put in some windowish thing to protect the screen if it fell on a sharp corner

Case for the Mugen 3000mAh battery?

I'm listening to shoutcast a lot by using HSDPA (though not actually using HSDPA speeds) with Pocket player but I'm having power problems. The battery usually only lasts the trip to work (1hour) and then maybe 2 hours more. I'm very mobile in my work (furnishing carpenter) and I want my phone on me while I work. That's why I can't let it be connected to the power outlet while at work. I currently have the Seidio 1600mAh battery and the PDAir hardcase.
That's why I've been looking at the Mugen 3000mAh battery and rubberized case which let's you slide the phone without removing, from a store on eBay.
Case: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-BLACK-HARD-...photoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
Battery: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-EXTENDED-BA...photoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
Will this work?
Thanks.

The 3000mAh battery requires an extended battery cover, which makes the phone thicker. So that case will not work with the rubberized battery; at least the back of it won't. The front probably would still fit.

Yes I was expecting that but I thought that at lower part of the case would cover half of the lower part of the phone. In that case at least most of the phone is covered. But is there no case that will perfectly fit together with the 3000mAh battery with a belt clip preferably a hard or rubberized case?
edit: What are my options really for a better battery life? Portable charger?

i've got the seidio and unfortunately it seems these type of cases 'snap on' to the phone through tabs. so they must be deep enough or it just won't stay on.
i also have a capdase leather case, which has some sort of shallow tray that fits tightly around the bottom of the stock phone (no plastic). i had hoped to use this with the mugen, but the mugen's replacement case tapers in so it won't fit in the capdase case.... so right now if i use the mugen 3000mah, i just take the phone around 'naked'.
i've been pondering the possibility of one of those cases with the half plastic thing that goes over the keyboard will work... the mugen case makes the phone about 1-2mm thicker. but then again, i'm not keen to buy yet another case for the thing.

That's interesting. 1-2mm thicker isn't that much really. But looking at the Capdase leather and the Nakedcellphone's plastic case pictures it seems It was specially made for the standard hatch+battery. I guess the same applies for the Seidio one.
I have an old Axim X50V with an extended battery and a PDAir alu hard case so it shouldn't be impossible to make one for the Kaiser.
Have you checked if the phone with the Mugen battery works with the OEM leather case?
Thanks.
edit: I think I meant the standard leather case.

so far ??? only one will do with the Mugen 3000mAh ...
Kaiser stock case
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1853879&postcount=28
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Unfortunately, the at&t version doesn't come with a case at all. Where can I find the Kaiser stock case? I couldn't find anything on HTC's website.
Thanks,

UnicornKaz said:
so far ??? only one will do with the Mugen 3000mAh ...
Kaiser stock case
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1853879&postcount=28
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If we are thinking about the same Kaiser stock case (the horizontal one in leather) then I have tried this one and it isn't optimal. The phone is simply to tightly squeezed inside the case.
Actually I bought a case from the same shop on Ebay that sold the Mugen battery (Nakedcellphone) and it fits perfectly with enough room for ventilation but the sides of the clip are starting to fall off for some reason so I've put that one away. The best option for me would be a hard case probably by PDAir but I can't find one. The problem with these belt cases is that whenever you want to use your phone It's unprotected.
At the moment I'm simply using a thick textile bag for it. I also have the phone around the neck with a necklace. It works ok but I would really like a rubberized or a hard case.

kcrumbley said:
Unfortunately, the at&t version doesn't come with a case at all. Where can I find the Kaiser stock case? I couldn't find anything on HTC's website.
Thanks,
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I seem to remember seeing it on bestbuy business. Otherwise try ebay.
I think this is one actually. Looks like this but with HTC logo on the front.
http://www.puremobile.com/HTC/HTC-TyTN/TyTN-II-Leather-Case-Retail-Packaging/

Best case for being able to answer incoming calls with

I had a 8525, for a while and now got the tilt I had tried a lot of those plastic cases and other vertical and horizontal cases, my case that I ended using a lot for my 8525 was a simple leather case with all screen and front button visible and press able, the sides were quite exposed and all buttons were functional, camera was not visible but phone was easy to take out to txt or take pics.
I am looking for a case that I can see the screen preferably without having to flip anything or take the phone out, I do not care too much about having the phone keyboard slide out.
Sadly I was not able to find the same style of case for my tilt as I have had for my 8525 on ebay to me its really nice to be able to pick up phone and then quickly put it back on your belt or on your pocket.
I have seen something close but it has a flap, and it does have the keyboard sticking out, I just want to know if this has the camera visible or not and how easy would this case be to take off?
I plan to swap batteries as I don’t like charging my phone, it heats up a lot with charging phone and battery, I always had 2-3 extra batteries for my 8525 and never had to worry about low battery I had one or 2 fully charged ready to go any time.
The case in question is this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Leather-Case-FO...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Here is another but meats even less of my requirements
http://cgi.ebay.com/FOR-HTC-TYTN-II...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
this item meets requirements but has no plastic cover over the screen, so all the dmg resistance would be at the screen protectors job
http://cgi.ebay.com/FOR-HTC-TYTN-II...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
has anyone else found something what i was talking about that is same with my 8525? i would use it if it would fit the tilt but that case does not

Thanks for directing me to the case in the 2nd link. It is just what i think i am looking for--a case which can fit a couple memory cards and credit cards, which also promises to fit the extended 3000mah mugen battery case--all things that my current seidio rubberized case cannot do.
Regarding the case which you are looking for, have you considered one of those metal cases? they don't provide quick access to the keyboard but do have cutouts for all the necessary buttons, and a physical "plexiglass" window covering the screen... from your description of what you need, they seem to fit the bill more closely.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Jet-Black-AT-T-...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/SILVER-HARD-MET...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I guess, FWIW, I am currently using the Seidio case, which is very nice, as far as it goes. The fit is perfect, it looks and feels great, and it also provides me with quick and unhindered access to the keyboard and all keys & functions. But as you said, it does not have a physical screen protector (i just use a regular screen protector, and it has done fine in my pocket so far). But it doesn't have any storage for memory cards or other things, nor is it able to fit my extended mugen battery when i want to use it. when i am using the Mugen, i just have to carry the kaiser loose in my pocket, but again with the screen protector.

The PDair aluminium case may fulfil your requirements.
The buttons/camera is exposed and the screen is protected by hard plastic. Can answer phone without doing anything, and is protected quite nicely. Pop open the front cover and you can slide out the keyboard.

i guess i should restate by what i mean answer the phone i mean to be able to see the screen right of the bat with the phone in the case its the cheapo case that most oems make, simple one point button snap at top, the only hard material is the back side, the rest of the device is held by leather like straps the screen is protected with a thick clear plastic/silicon material, and the front buttons.
i dont know i looked almost at all the ebay items listed when i did a search nothing came up that was exact as the one i had for the 8525.
the case also did not add much thickness to the phone, only the leather thickness pluse the back side and the belt clip.
I had tried all those snap on plastic, other full vertical with magnet and velcro and all that stuff... i ended up using that cheap and simple case for my hermes/8525 :/ now i want same for my tilt.
i might just take a pic.

Sorry when I said hard plastic I meant hard _transparent_ plastic.
Like this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PDair-Alumini...ZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem

Otterbox any experiences?

hello,
does one of you already tried if the the Raphael fits into a standard otterbox?
i want to buy an otterbox for geocaching... maybe some of you already tried it.

I thought that the otterbox 1900,2600 & 3600 looked too big and I didn't need access to the phone whilst it was in the case, so I bought both the otterbox 1000 & peli micro 1010 to see which was the best fit for the touch pro. The otterbox 1000 is best (even though it shouldn't fit according to the spec on their website). It fits beautifully for length but it is a little too wide (~6mm) and thick (~8mm). It is the smallest tough waterproof case that I could find for the phone. I lined it with "stickymat" across the bottom and up the sides - not the ends, and then stuck a small strip on the bottom at each end so that the bevelled edges sat between them. It now sits snugly, no rattles at all and you can see most of the screen through the clear case (apart from where it is obscured by the otter logo). I keep this in my coat pocket whilst at work and use a bluetooth headset so it just stays there, nice & safe.
The Peli case is about twice as big as it needs to be but if you wanted space for headphones, spare batteries etc it would be perfect.

not a Otherbox, but with palmcase mini(p)
I bought it used over Ebay
The phone is a bit thicker then the box....but the flexible cover compensates it. As i have also modules attached, i can easily put a bluetooth-gps also in the case:
http://www.andres-industries.de/zubehor_armor_1.html
Take a look at the compatibility-list:
http://www.andres-industries.de/pda__kompatibilitat.html
Hope this helps
Keoma

I need cheap battery door!

I dropped my phone several times...and several pins in battery door are broken and it is loose!!! I don't know why the quality of the battery door is so low!!! Shame on HTC! do you know where can I buy battery door ?( not original battery door )
thank you in advance!

Did you manage to find out where to buy a battery cover?
Mine also was broken, what i did is put a silicone case to hold it in place.
I would like to replace it if I can find a cheap one, or even original one if I have no option.

Hi,
I would need one too. The original one and the rest you find on Ebay are freakin' expensive ($25 or more). This piece of plastic should be no more than $5.
Anyone got a good address to buy the battery door?
P!