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Day with a Droid X

Well Hi All. Madhouse here. A buddy of mine who is a firefighter is also a part time Verizon employee, he was gracious enough to let me carry a droid X demo for the day here. It's currently 12:37 pm here and i will have access to the phone for a few more hours here. I made a few videos and took some pictures, i will try my best to answer any requests made in this thread while i have the phone. A few basic principals apply. Obviously i will not be demoing any rooting or hacking type activities on the phone because it is not mine.
Look forward to the questions! Enjoy!
(Will be editing and putting links to the videos in a minute here)
This is a test sample of the droid x's video capability in 720p
Droid X Mozilla Demo

Wow, lucky! I know this may seem dumb... but an alternate home (such as LauncherPro) can be installed, right?
Also, what's the screen like? Is it very responsive/accurate?

x.v_ said:
Wow, lucky! I know this may seem dumb... but an alternate home (such as LauncherPro) can be installed, right?
Also, what's the screen like? Is it very responsive/accurate?
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I'll check into the launcher thing for you and the screen is AMAZINGLY accurate, i'll have a video of the multitouch vis app test up in a minute. It makes the Evo (My phone) look terrible as far as touch responsiveness.

how loud does the "loud" speaker sound compared to other smartphones? Also do you feel that the dual leds are very bright? Do the hard buttons on the front feel like they are good quality?

MadhouseMedic said:
I'll check into the launcher thing for you and the screen is AMAZINGLY accurate, i'll have a video of the multitouch vis app test up in a minute. It makes the Evo (My phone) look terrible as far as touch responsiveness.
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Woo hoo! This is important to me, so I'm glad to hear that! Makes me even more excited for this!

Hows the keyboard working? The trouble I'm having with my touch phone right now is my fingers are too big and i'm constantly making mistakes -.-

paul89 said:
how loud does the "loud" speaker sound compared to other smartphones? Also do you feel that the dual leds are very bright? Do the hard buttons on the front feel like they are good quality?
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It's definitely loud. It's about as loud as an Evo 4G's or Droid Incredible's. We have all three phones present. Tested them all.

x.v_ said:
Woo hoo! This is important to me, so I'm glad to hear that! Makes me even more excited for this!
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I was going to make a video but im using the Evo to make the videos, but yeah, it is SPOT ON for the touch sensitivity, makes the Evo look like it's stuck in the mud. Probably due to the FPS cap or something for all i know.

peperonikiller said:
Hows the keyboard working? The trouble I'm having with my touch phone right now is my fingers are too big and i'm constantly making mistakes -.-
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It's big, it's especially big if you turn it sideways. I'm a big guy too (6'4" 268 lbs.) The keyboard feels natural too, it's of good size. It has a multitouch keyboard as well as swype for fast typing.

Any chance you have a micro-hdmi cable handy to test playing a DIVX/AVI movie on a TV?

rolandroland said:
Any chance you have a micro-hdmi cable handy to test playing a DIVX/AVI movie on a TV?
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I have the cable, i don't have an HDTV unfortunately. Sorry!

MadhouseMedic said:
I have the cable, i don't have an HDTV unfortunately. Sorry!
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Could you possibly answer if the launcher can be replaced? ^.^

Awesome to hear about the keyboard! It's the only thing im iffy about considering I really was looking forward to a slide out keyboard.. but if the keys are big then no worries

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Could you possibly answer if the launcher can be replaced? ^.^
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I can't seem to figure out how to get it to go to original launcher much less launcher pro. It's stuck in this motoblur hybrid UI

peperonikiller said:
Awesome to hear about the keyboard! It's the only thing im iffy about considering I really was looking forward to a slide out keyboard.. but if the keys are big then no worries
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Swype works VERY well for people with large fingers because its just dragging it across the keyboard and yes the keyboard feels great.

MadhouseMedic said:
I can't seem to figure out how to get it to go to original launcher much less launcher pro. It's stuck in this motoblur hybrid UI
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So you can't install Launcher Pro from the market?! I don't care about the default one, just need to know I can replace it with something else from the market.
This is what should happen (in case you don't know):
->Install Launcher Pro
->Hit home
->A box should come up asking what launcher you want to use (if you get to here it works).

x.v_ said:
So you can't install Launcher Pro from the market?! I don't care about the default one, just need to know I can replace it with something else from the market.
This is what should happen (in case you don't know):
->Install Launcher Pro
->Hit home
->A box should come up asking what launcher you want to use (if you get to here it works).
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Working on it now. Gimmie a second.
(Update: It works flawlessly. Looks amazing too.)

MadhouseMedic said:
Working on it now. Gimmie a second.
(Update: It works flawlessly. Looks amazing too.)
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Cool! Thanks for all your answers man, really appreciate it!

x.v_ said:
Could you possibly answer if the launcher can be replaced? ^.^
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yes it can be replace. here's a DX with launcher pro
http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid-x/114611-home-screens-launcherpro-screen-shots.html

Jollibee said:
yes it can be replace. here's a DX with launcher pro
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Does this necessarily mean Launcher Pro is running instead of Moto's default? Or can it be on top of the original (i.e. wasting mem/cpu, running both)?
The choice it gives on pressing the home screen is just that it recognizes there are 2 registered apps that handle launcher requests, right? It doesn't necessarily kill one for the other, does it?
Only had Android for a few weeks, so sorry if silly question.

[Q] Can an Android ROM be made this way ?

Greetings,
The one thing I have seen a lot of people complain here is about the hard keys on our phone wearing out. This is one of the major issues and i face the same problem. On Windows Mobile I rarely use the Hard Keys but on Android they are really used a lot. So my question to all you talented developers out there is..Cant a ROM be made specially for our HD2 with a soft key panel built into the screen ? which is available all the time !!
I know there are some third party apps like Buttonsavior...etc...but its not something which is as flexible as the soft keys in other phones....I have attached a screenshot to express what I mean.

isn't that what tablet tweaks from cm7 attempts to do? haven't seen if they work, personally.

jsmccabe78 said:
isn't that what tablet tweaks from cm7 attempts to do? haven't seen if they work, personally.
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havent heard of em..please be kind enough to elaborate on that
also i found this...not sure how this works...someone please explainhttp://www.xda-developers.com/android/customize-your-samsung-continuum-with-themed-android-soft-keys/

Try the app zmooth - it is on the Android Market * HERE *. You will never need to use the hardware keys apart form the volume and End/Power key.

backlashsid said:
havent heard of em..please be kind enough to elaborate on that
also i found this...not sure how this works...someone please explainhttp://www.xda-developers.com/android/customize-your-samsung-continuum-with-themed-android-soft-keys/
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check screenshots in 1st post of this thread

p107r0 said:
check screenshots in 1st post of this thread
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thanks

This is something that is a native feature of Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. So check the ICS ROMs and see if the ROM developer has turned it off or left it as a option for the user to decide. Also I know this ROM has it as a option.

Yea, as stated above softkeys in themselves are/can be present in all the ics as standard as the feature ics nexus itself doesn't have any hardware buttons (that i recall).
When I first read your question I thought you were enquiring about if the soft button panel could be present regardless of the state i.e when screen is off, which isn't done. In terms of being able to totally disregard the hard buttons there are proximity sensor apps (as well as some sound apps) that can be utilised to wake the device from sleep, I've used proximity screen off which works well, although i can't report as to using it affects battery life.

p107r0 said:
check screenshots in 1st post of this thread
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T-Macgnolia said:
This is something that is a native feature of Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. So check the ICS ROMs and see if the ROM developer has turned it off or left it as a option for the user to decide. Also I know this ROM has it as a option.
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HypoTurtle said:
Yea, as stated above softkeys in themselves are/can be present in all the ics as standard as the feature ics nexus itself doesn't have any hardware buttons (that i recall).
When I first read your question I thought you were enquiring about if the soft button panel could be present regardless of the state i.e when screen is off, which isn't done. In terms of being able to totally disregard the hard buttons there are proximity sensor apps (as well as some sound apps) that can be utilised to wake the device from sleep, I've used proximity screen off which works well, although i can't report as to using it affects battery life.
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any way other than tablet tweeks ? inbult rom like galaxy nexus has ??

backlashsid said:
any way other than tablet tweeks ? inbult rom like galaxy nexus has ??
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Check this thread and check out the video below.
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T-Macgnolia said:
Check this thread and check out the video below.
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thanks i'll check it out. A dumb question but there is no way we can do something like this on gingerbread roms right ?

backlashsid said:
thanks i'll check it out. A dumb question but there is no way we can do something like this on gingerbread roms right ?
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I do not think you can do this with a Gingerbread ROM because the onscreen buttons are not part of Gingerbread. But if you want to you can always try it and see what you can come up with. Also it is several launchers for Gingerbread that will give you the onscreen buttons, but I do not think they work with all apps.

T-Macgnolia said:
I do not think you can do this with a Gingerbread ROM because the onscreen buttons are not part of Gingerbread. But if you want to you can always try it and see what you can come up with. Also it is several launchers for Gingerbread that will give you the onscreen buttons, but I do not think they work with all apps.
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allright. thanks again. I shall test it once I have the ICS rom again on my hd2.

[Q] Really good NAND Sense 2.1 Rom?

Hey guys.
After trying dozens of ROMs for a week, I can't find a good sense rom. Nothing fancy. As close as stock 2.1 sense as I can get. I have a 1024 Tmous HD2. Preferably something like the DFT NAND ROM that I'm sure everyone is familiar with, but without any bugs.
Please?
Thankss

Sense of eclipse ...is to be recommended
Really great work from daekin !!!

Belp said:
Sense of eclipse ...is to be recommended
Really great work from daekin !!!
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I don't think a ROM where you need to use an app to turn off the dang thing is great. As a matter of fact, the only thing I see in NAND development these days are these buggy Sense 3 ROMS, Sense 2.1 ROMs themed to the point of retina destruction and that MIUI crap.
Why has nobody made a stock Desire HD ROM for cLK.
To the OP: If you're a fan of MAGLDR, try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915159
Only thing wrong is the camcorder doesn't work with the stock HTCCamera.apk. (and another thing wrong with it is that it's for MAGLDR )

there are stock like hd with sense 2.0 which can be used with clk

rr5678 said:
I don't think a ROM where you need to use an app to turn off the dang thing is great.
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I don't need any app to turn off the "dang thing" like you said....
Anyway, the issues i knew after 2 weeks of use:
Camcorder with higher resolutian than 320x240 does not work (i'm not a cameraman so it does not affect me...)
Graphical glitches (much less then in other NAND-roms. Really: not disturbing)
Thats it and all what i've noticed in 2 weeks use. ^^
After testing these two weeks, i only can say that the rom is fast, stable and (that's important i think) suitable for everyday use...
Greetz
Belp

Belp said:
I don't need any app to turn off the "dang thing" like you said....
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So you're telling me that this list is lying?
Known Issues
Camcorder (Records well up to 320x240 resolution)
Tethering (Workaround: third party app can be used)
Graphical glitches (horizontal stripes)
[*]Power menu (Works one time, QuickBoot application included)
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rr5678 said:
So you're telling me that this list is lying?
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Hi,
I'm not sure why you are laying so much importance on such a minor aspect of a great ROM.
Have you actually tried it?
As it happens my power off (stock) button is still working.
But what's the difference between pressing the power button and pressing an app button.
Same result...
@[OP] Try it.You may like it.

rr5678 said:
So you're telling me that this list is lying?
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No, of course not. I'm just telling you my experiences. And if i want to turn it off i just turn it off^^ button is working for me...
Anyway, it's just like malybru said: not a important thing. Test it, you may like it too^^
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@[OP] Try it.You may like it.
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can only agree with that

Can we expect marshmallow soon?

Was reading this and given the note 5 ports thought it might not be long until we get a Samsung marshmallow n5 port for our n3?
http://www.neowin.net/news/samsung-...beta-for-galaxy-note-5-to-first-testers-in-us
I know there are 6.0.1 cm13 builds but I like using the stylus or at least having the option to, I might use it some day, you never know

I use CM13 and my pen... there are plenty of ways to get it working.

emuandco said:
I use CM13 and my pen... there are plenty of ways to get it working.
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Oh, with pressure sensitivity? does the camera still work well? 60fps and so on?
Last time I checked there were just too many features from the Samsung roms missing.

defroster said:
Oh, with pressure sensitivity? does the camera still work well? 60fps and so on?
Last time I checked there were just too many features from the Samsung roms missing.
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CM SPen Addon and Squid ftw. Works perfect. Camera works fine, too. No clue of 60fps, I dont need that.

emuandco said:
CM SPen Addon and Squid ftw. Works perfect. Camera works fine, too. No clue of 60fps, I dont need that.
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Using temaseks build? What the heck is squid?

defroster said:
Using temaseks build? What the heck is squid?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.steadfastinnovation.android.projectpapyrus&hl=de
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.cmspen2&hl=de

The captured images won't be of same quality on CM like it is on TW ROMs. Forget about 60 fps, LOL. It's just the something is better than nothing approach, nothing else.

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The captured images won't be of same quality on CM like it is on TW ROMs. Forget about 60 fps, LOL. It's just the something is better than nothing approach, nothing else.
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Talking about quality on a phone cam sensor? Lololol I have no quality problems BTW.

emuandco said:
Talking about quality on a phone cam sensor? Lololol I have no quality problems BTW.
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Yeah, I am talking about quality on a phone cam sensor. The quality difference is so much that even with naked eye, and even a dull headed person will notice the difference! And I am a DSLR guy by the way!

My biggest issue with CM is that there isn't a good multiwindow implementation yet. I know they're working on it (I think Google, could be CM, not entirely sure who exactly it is that's working on it), but the feature is still in early alpha. I can't use my phone without it. It's like not having a browser or a SIM card.

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Yeah, I am talking about quality on a phone cam sensor. The quality difference is so much that even with naked eye, and even a dull headed person will notice the difference! And I am a DSLR guy by the way!
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Same camera sensor quality, just no FPS changes currently available, thus far. I am a micro-4/3 guy by the way, but don't see the relevance to this post :silly::silly::silly:

hapa8o8 said:
Same camera sensor quality, just no FPS changes currently available, thus far. I am a micro-4/3 guy by the way, but don't see the relevance to this post :silly::silly::silly:
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Who was talking about camera sensor! Everyone knows software can't change the hardware sensor! Its the post processing that matters, and that's where TW will thump over any CM/AOSP any day, any time.

Guys i have got good news here !!!
Official marshmallow!!!

AUmemOS said:
Guys i have got good news here !!!
Official marshmallow!!!
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Sweet. Could you link to that specific website, though? I don't want to be that guy, but it would be nice just for quick verification reasons. I might send it to a tech news website then too.

Amanoo said:
Sweet. Could you link to that specific website, though? I don't want to be that guy, but it would be nice just for quick verification reasons. I might send it to a tech news website then too.
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I cant send the link because it is a chat between me and developer in samsung.

AUmemOS said:
I cant send the link because it is a chat between me and developer in samsung.
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I meant to the website where this chat function is implemented, just to be completely that it really is from Samsung. I understand that I can't see your conversation. I'm just curious to take a quick look at the page where the function is located.

Amanoo said:
I meant to the website where this chat function is implemented, just to be completely that it really is from Samsung. I understand that I can't see your conversation. I'm just curious to take a quick look at the page where the function is located.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/support/live-chat.html

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Who was talking about camera sensor! Everyone knows software can't change the hardware sensor! Its the post processing that matters, and that's where TW will thump over any CM/AOSP any day, any time.
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Then I suggest you go find a custom TW ROM :laugh: problem solved? :silly:

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Then I suggest you go find a custom TW ROM :laugh: problem solved? :silly:
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No, not solved. I didn't have a problem to solve at first place :laugh:

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No, not solved. I didn't have a problem to solve at first place :laugh:
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Oh, life must be swell then Keep rockin on, friend. :highfive:

pie control by coolace (no root)

anyone using this for their note 9 ? i have it install in my Note 9 (exynos duo), everything is good until i click on button on pie control, it take nearly 2-5 second to load apps, is kind of irritating for me, anyone facing this issue ? or i miss out something ?

Reboot? Working great on snap note 9
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bjc112 said:
Reboot? Working great on snap note 9
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my seem like something go wrong, first click is decent 1 second but second click will take up to 4-5 second to load ...
weird

i love gestures more than other controls

bjc112 said:
Reboot? Working great on snap note 9
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chacho_2me said:
i love gestures more than other controls
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we don't have good lock in our region.

skabt said:
we don't have good lock in our region.
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pie controls or goodlock? i dont have also.. but i search on google. so far no malware

I JUST started using PIE controls by coolace (due to having seen it on this threat). It is working great so far, no slowdown or hangs or anything.
I am using snapdragon Note 9
Thanks for mentioning the app by the way, I think it might be favorite edge/gesture control now (have tried many)

have a look, wondering this is normal ? but i done nothing on my phone ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laFGe1EQDcI&feature=youtu.be

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have a look, wondering this is normal ? but i done nothing on my phone ...
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Which wallpaper is that?

Looks like Maxelus AMOLED live wallpaper

another pie controls app. Works pretty well reminds me of lmt launcher

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Which wallpaper is that?
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AVriANCE said:
Looks like Maxelus AMOLED live wallpaper
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YUP amoled livewapaper ....
btw my is really slow right ?

i found one funny issue with my pie control, if i open pie control in any screen other than home screen, it work perfectly but in home screen it take few second to load, any one have idea what it cause ?

I am actually taking back my recommendation on this app...
more than once I have had it kind of "take over" my screen.
What I mean is, any touch on my screen is attempting to touch something in PIE control (and not actually graphically showing PIE control, btw).
you effectively can't do anything at that point.
Its been a few days since I stopped using it, but I really did pretty exhaustively try to figure out how to stop this.
I really liked this app's "swipe" method instead of pulling the PIE out and having to like hold on a button for a quick sec, this app lets you do it in a smooth swiping motion.
Anyways, ive given up and gone back to onscreen navigation keys.
Every method I have tried (including XDA's navigation) has had some small hangups that eventually have problems working.
And no I haven't reported errors and such in respective threads, I just give up because my "lots of effort into having a hacky phone" days are behind me