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Best place to buy Magician in the EU?

Hi,
I'm looking to buy Qtek S100/XDA Mini/MDA Compact in the EU, would love some recommendations. It is really expensive in Sweden, so I thought of buying it elsewhere.
Thanks! :wink:

tc08 said:
Hi,
I'm looking to buy Qtek S100/XDA Mini/MDA Compact in the EU, would love some recommendations. It is really expensive in Sweden, so I thought of buying it elsewhere.
Thanks! :wink:
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www.mobilejoker.de
426Euros.

www.blueshop24.de via ebay.
I bought 4 MDA Compacts on 18th Dec and had them in my hand via ups on the 24th in Spain, and they only charged 20 euros for shipping. Highly recommended

Are they Sim-Locked?

I also bought mine at blueshop24. Delivery was next day (I live in Belgium).
My unit is not sim-locked, it worked within 5 minutes with my Belgian sim card.
I did have a German ROM, but that I changed in English (see other threads here).

How about warranty issues?
1) Lets say you get a dead pixel at delivery? blueshop does not have any return policy, so you''re stuck with it.
2) If the unit breaks, do you send it to Germany, or what? Will the repair shop accept sending it back to your country...

Any tips on a store where they accept paying by credit card? Transferring to bank accounts abroad seems complicated.

Well, I finally ordered from blueshop24 trough ebay. After the buy i went trough the aftershop and after that i recieve this mail:
[email protected]:
quota exceeded
Nice, so now I have no clue whether they have recieved my order or anything. Good start.....

In the UK, there is this:
http://www.phones2udirect.co.uk/Products/type/phones/ProductID/5654/NetworkID/6/I-Mate_JAM.asp
But I haven't tried it yet. I cant find any reviews of the store online anywhere.

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In the UK, there is this:
http://www.phones2udirect.co.uk/Products/type/phones/ProductID/5654/NetworkID/6/I-Mate_JAM.asp
But I haven't tried it yet. I cant find any reviews of the store online anywhere.
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I bought my JAM from them - they were great. I used the online store, but also phoned them to check delivery etc. and ask them a couple of questions about porting my number. I got through to them on the phone on two occasions without being put on hold (which was a minor miracle just before Christmas), and I got the phone next day. Very pleased with their service.
I got my JAM with an O2 contract - 200 mins + 200 texts (100 after 3 months) for £25 a month, and the JAM cost around £150 (can't remember exactly
Cheers,
Simon

I liked their prices for the device, But after 3 months on that O2 plan, you will only have 100 mins AND 100 texts per month, though?

Avoid blueshop24
These people ar retards...
In their ebay descriptipn it says that PayPal is available for customers abroad. Nowehere on their website or anywhere is it specified anything more about that.
So I ordered an item, went to PayPal, it broguht up my autcion, I clicked "Pay", and that was it! Thats what I thought.....
After a few days mailing they told me I had the wrong PayPal email for them, and that I had to ssend it to anther email. (Good job from their side letting customers know this fact,t he correct email is not specified ANYWHERE on their website)
So, I cancelled the payment and made a new one. This caused me to go bankrupt since it takes a couple of days for a transaction to be returned to your account, but the new transaction was withdrawn immediately, of course. Anyway, it's still ok, these things happen.
Imagine my surprise when i 2 days later (today) recieve an email that they have received my payment. Great, I though.
BUT, they want another 9 euros because I paid through PayPal., which once again is not specified ANYWHERE on their site. They did have a like to a page "specifying all cost for our customers abroad", but the link was broken, and they wrote the above info in the German part of the email, not in the english. (great thinking) Good thing i know some German.
This is outrageout, I regret shopping from these people. I do hope they with take back the claim for the extra fee, it's not a lot of money, but it is amatter of principle.
Just wanted to tell you that you should be aware of all this if you shop with hem.

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I liked their prices for the device, But after 3 months on that O2 plan, you will only have 100 mins AND 100 texts per month, though?
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Yes - this is standard on the o2 tariffs for all resellers. For the first 3 months you get double minutes and texts. You need to be a wee bit careful, because some websites advertise this as a "200" tariff (and mention in the small print that it halves in 3 months). Others call this a "100" tariff with a special deal for the first 3 months. Either way, as far as I can tell, EVERY website charges £25 for this tariff whatever they call it. For £30 a month you get a 200 tariff (again with double minutes for three months).
Bottom line: all the websites' tariffs are identical, the only difference is the cost of the JAM (as far as I can tell).
Hope this helps,
Simon

Re: Avoid blueshop24
tc08 said:
These people ar retards...
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Who?
Blueshop24?
I ordered and paid so that they'd deliver it to me the next week (I was in Germany that week). They took 11 days and still hadn't accepted my paypal payment. Now, I was already back from Germany so I clearly wasn't gonna get it as planned.
I cancelled and went with mobilejoker.de (426Euros)

I bought mine from Dustin in Sweden for 4 636 SEK including a 512 MB SD-card. Then of course, there is the lovely 25% sales tax if you buy it privately, which I naturally did not.
Skip

I should have gone with Mobilejoker too, they seemed more serious. Well,you live and you learn
LeSkip: Well the price from blueshop is 4000 SEK including 17% VAT, and a 1GB SD is around 500SEK with shipping from the US, so....
But ten again, if I bought it from Dustin I would have the phone in my hand by now.

It is now (since July 2004) against Ebays rules for a seller to try and charge extra for certain payment services. They either take the paypal hit themselves, or they dont accept paypal.
I have had barneys with a number of UK sellers over this (they dont seem to understand plain english).
I dont know whether this is an ebay rule or just an ebay.co.uk rule though.
Nigel

veletron said:
It is now (since July 2004) against Ebays rules for a seller to try and charge extra for certain payment services. They either take the paypal hit themselves, or they dont accept paypal.
I have had barneys with a number of UK sellers over this (they dont seem to understand plain english).
I dont know whether this is an ebay rule or just an ebay.co.uk rule though.
Nigel
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Thanks for that information, I've just sent an email to ebay regarding this.

So r they trustable?
both www.mobilejoker.de and blueshop24.de
pls advice, thanks

yeap said:
So r they trustable?
both www.mobilejoker.de and blueshop24.de
pls advice, thanks
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Mobilejoker are shipping mine on Monday.
Because I live outside Germany, there's a 39Euro delivery charge (5 Euros in Germany)
There's a 15 Euro Cash On Delivery charge because it cost more for me to transfer the money internationally(£25 from my bank).
Now, with those 2 charges (64 Euros) and a 1GB SD card (65 Euros), it's still costing me less from mobilejoker (£380) than Expansys (£411 )

Amazing deals on Orange SPV M3100 and T-Mobile Vario II

Just found an amazing deal for orange SPV M3100
a FREE SPV M3100 on Dolphin 35 which gives 500 x net mins, 500 texts and unlimited magic number calls (to a nominated orange number)
This offer also includes their free wireless broadband deal (which i had previously been told was only available when buying direct from orange)
They can also transfer your orange PAYG number to Orange contract (again i was previously told this was only available buying direct from orange)
AND 9 months 1/2 price rental - so total cost for 18 months is £472.50 (less than £26pm including phone and broadband)
There are other similar deals available, by far the cheapest i have found and much cheaper than orange direct / online / shop
checkout:
http://www.cheapest4mobiles.co.uk/display.asp?hs=m3100&network=&tariff=&gift=&phone=Orange_M3100
also some amazing deals on the Vario II as well - lots of offers if you click on the link, they are actually cheaper than those listed when you select (as theres currently a £5 per month discount as well)
http://www.cheapest4mobiles.co.uk/d...rk=&tariff=&gift=&phone=T-Mobile_MDA_Vario_II
HTC TyTN deals are also there, but tend to be more money (but are available with an O2 connection)
http://www.cheapest4mobiles.co.uk/display.asp?hs=tytn&network=&tariff=&gift=&phone=HTC_TyTN

Someone pmd me to say the deals i had mentioned werent there!
It said on the site that over the weekend not all the deals were listed due to some technical issue with power failures and BT !!!
The issue has now been resolved and all deals are listed once more.

sounds like a good deal!
one word of warning though - i bought my orange m3100 from a different company on the internet - www.directmobilephones.com - because of the good deals etc, and whilst i had no problems recieving the phone, and they had good customer service during the buying process (replying to emails promptly etc.) i found out after a couple of weeks that they hadn't given orange the details for my number port or direct debit even though i had filled out these details on their online form!
so it's worth checking with orange when you register your phone that they have all the details if you don't buy direct...
hopefully this company is a bit better than the one i dealt with!

They look like good deals, but i thought the unlimited broadband was only available on panther 75 and even then you are limited to off peak unlimited broadband? Can you point us in the direction where is says you can get unlimited on dolphin 35? Cheers

i think he's refering to the unlimited home broadband rather than the unlimited mobile broadband.

Doesn't seem like any of the shops listed have either the Orange or the T-Mobile branded handset in stock

Doesn't seem like any of the shops listed have either the Orange or the T-Mobile branded handset in stock
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listed as 'in stock' on their website...
http://www.directmobilephones.com/spv_m3100_orange.htm
please note: if you do use them, check with orange about your number transfer / direct debit details if you're using those services!

bigshape said:
i think he's refering to the unlimited home broadband rather than the unlimited mobile broadband.
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Ahh, yep, your probably right. Even though them deals are good, i think I'll go with t-mobile online and get the unlimited mobile data. You end up paying more in the long run, but i think it'll be worth it! ;-)

Yes i was referring to unlimited home broadband, sorry for the confusion. Just to mention though that all the standard t-mobile deals are available through:
http://www.cheapest4mobiles.co.uk/d...rk=&tariff=&gift=&phone=T-Mobile_MDA_Vario_II
just click on any of the deals, and it allows you to select any available online T-Mobile tariff option.
As has already been pointed out, T-Mobile are offering a £5 per month line rental discount on some plans plus other incentives as well.

ONLY Buy from T-Mobile Direct, else you will get screwed
I have been looking for two days and called scancom, who told me that T-mobile cut their commisions on phones back 40%, so they can never beat their prices, and they were right, they couldn't. SO IW ouldn't bother, go for the T-mobile sales people and you'll do better

Deals on m3100
I bought my Orange SPV M3100 from OneStopPhoneShop (part of CarPhone Warehouse).
£9.99 for the handset and 12 months on the Canary package at £30 per month. Includes 200 cross-network, anytime minutes and 2 months free subs to Orange World (their 3G service) as well as few other perks (30 mins video calling etc).
Total cost £370 over 12 months - now that's not bad IMO.
Hope this helps.

padlad said:
bigshape said:
i think he's refering to the unlimited home broadband rather than the unlimited mobile broadband.
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Ahh, yep, your probably right. Even though them deals are good, i think I'll go with t-mobile online and get the unlimited mobile data. You end up paying more in the long run, but i think it'll be worth it! ;-)
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This is a very good point. There's no advantage to going with Orange apart from the slightly more attractive veneer on their version of the TyTn.
The online deal quoted earlier?
Well is that 9months half price line rental (in logical human terms)....
Or 9 months' worth of cashback after 6 months if you fill in a form on time...
Or two months half price, another two months full price, then two months full price.....
I don't trust these online companies as far as i can throw them.
Mikeycolllins is right when he says to go through T-mobile, it's just easier to get things sorted that way. And slightly off-topic, but if you ever get to know anyone who works at T-mobile they can only offer you half price line rental if you've gone directly through them, and not a third party.
To get anything like i currently do on Tmob on Orange we're talking 26quid for the dolphin package (as quoted earlier) plus 88 quid for unlimited internet (based on their online data price guide, and limited to 1gb as opposed to Tmob's 2gb). The free broadband will be useless to most people on here who are already contractually obligated to NTL/BT/TALKTALK etc.
Thats an average of 114 quid a month times 18 = 2052 quid.
I know that's taking things to extremes, but it proves a point - the only way you're gonna wind up with a better deal on orange is if you only use wifi. And that would be crap.
So basically i'm stickin with T-Mobile for now methinks.

I think we can all agree on that. For most phone users those Orange deals are very very good. For this specific phone with its data capabilities and the type of users we have in this forum, the T-Mobile deal is just heads over heels better than anything else out there.

I think the comments made are quite right, Orange is definitely the more expensive option (despite the freebies) if you are wanting a high mobile data usage.
I have just heard that Orange are cutting their commissions by £60 on 18 month contracts as from 1st October, so looks like the freebies will start to disappear shortly.
I have noticed that the onestopphoneshop deals have all disappeared within the last hour or so. Their cheapest deal was 12 month on Dolphin 25 at £360 (which is the one bigshape got) but now the same deal is £459 - a £99 increase since 8pm tonight.
The orange deal suits me, as i dont need much mobile data as i have wifi at home and work, and my home broadband is up for renewal anyway, so I have effectively got a FREE M3100 for £26 per month, but saved £17 by switching my broadband deal - so an M3100 for £9 per month including 500 texts and 500 minutes?
sounds unbeatable to me!
just to re-iterate though, :!:
The T-mobile deals on www.cheapest4mobiles.co.uk are actually direct from T-mobile themselves, - It is quite correct that the best discounts at the moment are direct from T-Mobile, thats why they are listed as such on the website.
The website simply runs a search over all available deals from a selection of retailers (one of which being T-mobile) and shows the best deal it can find. It also does Carphonewarehouse, onestopphoneshop, Orange, O2 and many more.

Am I the only person who thinks that rival companies should consider adopting T-mobile's simple 'credit' principle instead of drowning consumers in 'freebies' (20 minutes of video calls for the first 35 days, 'mate rates' half price line rental* free Msn [till october])I think 3 are the worst for this, but all the mainstream companies revel in confusing the less-sharp amongst us with verbiage and tantalising 'extras', seemingly in the hope that we'll forget that their freebie often doesn't last forever.
Of course this tactic has been prevalent in consumer marketing for years - but I believe T-mobile will win through with their straightforward and fair price plans, and their data bundles - as we have ascertained in this forum - are streets ahead of the competition.
3 have just brought out a 3g datacard. I noticed it in Superdrug this afternoon. I spoke to the 'advisor' about it briefly and by the end of the conversation he had told me rather enthusiastically that he was going to take out a t-mobile web n walk datacard plan!
I considered many price plans, and been on many different networks. From my experience I have concluded that the decisive factor in my skyrocketing phone bills was simply apathy. We are all guilty of it, and phone companies rely on it to make the big bucks. How many times have you overshot your minutes allowance, or forgot you only had texts instead of minutes?
The Flext plan is incredibly reassuring in its simplicity, and really does adapt to my changing needs (some months i call a lot, others i text a lot)
Though Orange and O2 may potentially offer more minutes and texts as a whole, this clouds the fact that many consumers NEVER use all of both their minutes AND texts, unless they make a concerted effort to do so.
Adaptability, simplicity and value for money are I believe important to most consumers.
Certainly they are to me.
P.s. What is 'Orange World'? Is that an open 3g browsing experience, or another Vodafone Live! ?
Personally I didn't buy my Vario II so I could check train times and download Novelty ringtones.
*for the first 3 months.

Now, I have a question.
Will any of these places ship to a US address? I ask cause it would almost make sense to get the phone with the cheapest plan and pay the money every month for a year and then cancel. But I am not sure how the european providers are and how long are their contracts. I do have some friends in england I could ship the device if I needed too. but what is everyones thoughts on this?

Not sure about this question as i dont know the vetting procedure, but I would assume you have to go through a UK credit check, part of which would probably be to check you were a UK citizen on the electoral register. I know my cousin had loads of problems because she was in the British Army stationed in Germany. Her parents had emigrated to France and she effectively had no valid UK address except her barracks. Orange were very awkward about this and would not give her a contract phone at all, despite the fact she had been an Orange customer for 3 years already.

All links to the MDA Vario II from your link, to the T-mobile site seem to be broken. In fact there is now no mention of that phone on their website. Anyone any ideas ???

looks like a problem with the T mobile site maybe they are doing some late night maintenance ? try again later methinks!

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Not sure about this question as i dont know the vetting procedure, but I would assume you have to go through a UK credit check, part of which would probably be to check you were a UK citizen on the electoral register. I know my cousin had loads of problems because she was in the British Army stationed in Germany. Her parents had emigrated to France and she effectively had no valid UK address except her barracks. Orange were very awkward about this and would not give her a contract phone at all, despite the fact she had been an Orange customer for 3 years already.
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You usually have to be a UK resident for at least 5 years i think and have lived at the same address for at least 3 years to normally get credit, and even then if you have had no credit, like for example, a credit card, loan, mortgage etc, then you will have no 'credit rating' and will struggle to get any credit at all.

Cheapeast TV-Out for the Fuze?

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Is there a cheap TV-Out cable out there?

I bought one from Expansys. It's the OEM cable for $30 US. I couldn't find a cheaper aftermarket cable, (did and ebay and web search), but maybe one will be available from an after-market manufacturer soon.

I ordered one from expansys 3 days before the fuze release. I knew they would be harder to get after the phone came out and wanted to make sure I got it when I had the phone. Their website said "11 in stock, ships within 3 days" on the tv out cable page when I submitted my order. Get an email today that its not in stock and will be shipped sometime near the end of the month now. What a bunch of BS. I hate websites that outright LIE saying its in stock just to get you to order. They (expansys) will never see another dime from me.

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I ordered one from expansys 3 days before the fuze release. I knew they would be harder to get after the phone came out and wanted to make sure I got it when I had the phone. Their website said "11 in stock, ships within 3 days" on the tv out cable page when I submitted my order. Get an email today that its not in stock and will be shipped sometime near the end of the month now. What a bunch of BS. I hate websites that outright LIE saying its in stock just to get you to order. They (expansys) will never see another dime from me.
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Most companies do this, they can get as many purchaser's monies, then put it all into a high yielding savings account. They keep telling you that they will get it, but in the mean time they get interest. Then you get tired of waiting, you cancel. They dont care, they'll give you your money back after another month. Kinda like rebates, you pay full price and after a month of interests on your full purchase, they'll send you a nice $10 back.

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Most companies do this, they can get as many purchaser's monies, then put it all into a high yielding savings account. They keep telling you that they will get it, but in the mean time they get interest. Then you get tired of waiting, you cancel. They dont care, they'll give you your money back after another month. Kinda like rebates, you pay full price and after a month of interests on your full purchase, they'll send you a nice $10 back.
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1. I'm not trying to bring an old thread back to life, but I feel it was necessary because I am also looking for an inexpensive cable.
2. I also wish to defend Expansys. I have made several major and minor purchases through this company. I've even driven 5 hours one-way to make a pickup at their Illinois warehouse. I have never been billed until they actually SHIP the product. And if they say usually ships in X days... that means they aren't in stock at a local warehouse. (Most likely UK). This requires overseas shipments, customs... and this can take time...
I understand your frustrations, however, I personally would rather deal with Expansys than any other on-line phone retailer.
XC

brando is selling a cable for $16.00
but I wonder if this one will work since it's has a mini USB as well: Dealextreme

Is composite RCA the only supported Video output? No S-Video or VGA? New to these types of devices but can deffo see their use.

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brando is selling a cable for $16.00
but I wonder if this one will work since it's has a mini USB as well: Dealextreme
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I have a similar camera cable, will test next week when I'm back in the States.

Is there a cheap TV-Out cable out there?

can i open the channel board easily???

The cheapest one I found is thru Ebay through this guy from Hong Kong for $4.88 US.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280416849785&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
He ships worldwide for free, but payment has to be paypal. I haven't bought it yet since I don't feel like needing it for now.

I bought my TV Out cable for RM40 in Malaysia. Converted around USD11.8 or Euro7.9
Its nice and exactly the same as the OEM AC 110 (I think this is what its called).
Unless you are in Malaysia, i Cant help you guys out. I think shipping to the US/UK would offset the cost already.

Nexus One shipped to the UK.

Has anyone on this forum had a nexus one sent to the UK? I am very interested in buying one. How much did it cost with and without the optional UK charger. I am getting it sent tot he north east. Also how long did it take? Also if anyone on this forum came from an iPhone 3GS how did the battery life compare?

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Has anyone on this forum had a nexus one sent to the UK? I am very interested in buying one. How much did it cost with and without the optional UK charger. I am getting it sent tot he north east. Also how long did it take? Also if anyone on this forum came from an iPhone 3GS how did the battery life compare?
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Ordered ~ 3pm on Wednesday, it arrived at ~ 9am Friday morning. Ordered early-mid Feb ~ 10th iirc.
374 was charged to credit card (didn't get the UK charger) but yet to have a form through for import from DHL.
Wouldn't bother with the extra charger tbh, they can be picked up cheap enough in the UK.

As above. Mine cost me £373 (phone inc delivery) and my bank charged me £10 for the conversion - total: £383. I ordered it around teatime last Wednesday and it was delivered this Monday. Not got the vat bill in yet.
Didn't get the charger as it was $19.99 + uk vat. I got one for the HD2, from amazon, at £4.95 with free delivery.

Mine (without rip off charger) cost £412 including taxes.
Ordered on a Tuesday eve, received on the Friday.

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Yep ordered on a Sunday night, delivered to my work address (about 1.5 hours north of London) Weds lunchtime, cost £384.81 with charger, no tax bill yet.
Battery life compares well with iPhone 3G, Magic, G1, better than Palm Pre with 1400 extended battery. I am planning on getting the dock when it comes to UK stockists for when I'm deskbound at work (I listen to music most of the day), but I've always done so regardless of phone.
Works well on O2 too.

Mine also came at around £410 including VAT. DHL will charge you separately for the VAT, but the bill won't arrive until about a month later. You might get lucky and DHL might not send you the bill, but I'd set aside the money as it seems the very first UK buyers at release were mainly the ones that got away with the VAT.
Even with the VAT inclusive, totalling £410 it's still alot cheaper than buying from expansys.com which is going for £599 as of today with 7 in stock according to the website.
Edit: You could wait another month and get it on contract with Vodafone if you don't want to pay for it unsubsidied. Or preorder the Desire instead on expansys for £439

ordered mine on a Sunday evening, the phone arrived the following Friday morning as it was slightly delayed at customs.
At the time I paid $577 which worked out to be £386 for the phone including UK charger and delivery charge.
I finally recieved the VAT bill this morning quoted at £60.17.
So all in all toatal costs = £446.17

Lol, YMMV...
I ordered two from the US, first never shipped, PayPal refund (direct from seller) after 11 days. Ordered second (different seller) and an empty box arrived three weeks later (express shipping). I believe it was stolen at customs. Under insurance claim.
Third time I just ordered it from a UK seller, +£50 but I got it in three days, no VAT letters to worry about and no customs delays to concern me.
I wish you all better luck than me. Every attempt I made was with an eBay "Power Seller" with good (recent) feedback for the same product.

So you paid £50 more, and it took 3 days to arrive? Might just as well have bought it from Google
There are no customs delays, DHL take it straight through and invoice you for it a few weeks later. At least that way you get a warranty.

@Rusty!:
I'm not sure I understand your point. Google weren't selling it directly outside of the US when I got mine. Or did you mean something else?
There's no way I would have received it from the US in three days anyway, customs or otherwise.
I have a guarantee, direct with HTC for 12 months.
Could you clarify what you meant?

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@Rusty!:
I'm not sure I understand your point. Google weren't selling it directly outside of the US when I got mine. Or did you mean something else?
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Google have been selling directly to the UK from Day 1 - I ordered mine then to the UK
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There's no way I would have received it from the US in three days anyway, customs or otherwise.
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The majority of the phones shipped to the UK are delivered within 3 days of order. Once dispatched in the US they are usually delivered in UK the next day!
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I have a guarantee, direct with HTC for 12 months.
Could you clarify what you meant?
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All the phones direct from google have a warranty with HTC in the UK

djmcnz said:
@Rusty!:
I'm not sure I understand your point. Google weren't selling it directly outside of the US when I got mine. Or did you mean something else?
There's no way I would have received it from the US in three days anyway, customs or otherwise.
I have a guarantee, direct with HTC for 12 months.
Could you clarify what you meant?
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Since this is a 'shipping to the UK' thread, I have assumed you are in the UK. To address your points/clarify what I meant:
Point 1: Google have shipped to the UK since day of release, so dunno what you're on about.
Point 2: I ordered mine late Tuesday, and received it Friday. I think it's fair to count that as 3 days.
Point 3: No you don't I'm afraid. Read the warranty statement, it's first point is that the warranty is non-transferable. HTC already know which Google account ordered the phone, and it wasn't yours.
So what I am saying is you would have been better off in pretty much every way ordering from Google. Still, doesn't matter now can't undo it... both worth mentioning to make sure others get the best deal.

Thanks for the clarification guys, although I wasn't seeking the criticism you so quickly offered!
I'm (ultimately) happy with the course of action I took and the price I paid.
I don't wish to start a debate but you're wrong on the warranty; under law warranty transferability doesn't apply to the retailer/end user relationship, only to end user/end user relationships. As such, the first end user of the device has a 12 month HTC warranty, they can not transfer this warranty.
The retailer doesn't even need to be sanctioned or official as long as they selling original, unmodified goods.

djmcnz stated..
I don't wish to start a debate but you're wrong on the warranty; under law warranty transferability doesn't apply to the retailer/end user relationship, only to end user/end user relationships. As such, the first end user of the device has a 12 month HTC warranty, they can not transfer this warranty.
The retailer doesn't even need to be sanctioned or official as long as they selling original, unmodified goods.
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I think I agree (but don't know consumer law well enough..and am no lawyer)
Certainly in Scotland (where I am domiciled) any consumer matter (which a Nexus problem would be) can be handled by the local Sheriff Court if the consumer so desires.
Just because there are clauses in Google's contract doesn't make them right.
Ultimately it will be for a court/judge to decide what the situation.,,
However I'm sure Google & HTC will behave if a professional, competent & legal manner at all times and things would never need to get that far: Aye, right!! (2 positives making a negative..)
Cheers!
Lodger

Thanks for the replys guys . If i buy from google will i get a year warranty if anything goes wrong?

2 years warrany for us UK (and EU) guys. That's according to the website under tems & condition of purchasing. Assuming you don't start tinkering...
Zuber

If the phone did break where would I send it to in the UK to get it fixed or replaced?

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If the phone did break where would I send it to in the UK to get it fixed or replaced?
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http://www.htc.com/www/support/nexusone/
Country Hotline Remark
United Kingdom +44-845-890-0079
Monday - Friday : 9am - 6pm
Saturday : 9am - 1pm
Think someone said the refurbishment centre in UK for HTC is based in Milton Keynes

Indeed it is. Turnaround time isn't too shabby either.

Anyone in the UK get their Tab?

Went into Carphone Warehouse and the man was oblivious to when it was out. Told me theyd have it in a few weeks, I told him its meant to be launched today and he then said itd be there in a few days and that id get an email telling me it was in stock.
Ridiculous.
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just order it online for same day delivery mate!
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/laptop-redirect/samsung-galaxy-tab
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Galaxy-Device-Cortex-Android/dp/B0042D75TU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1288602012&sr=8-1
http://www.expansys.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-android-tablet-16gb-201135/

Ive already preordered it via them for in store pickup
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I just got back from carphone warehouse here in sheffield and they got stock in today, so hopefully you'll see them soon wherever you are.
I stopped by in the Vodafone store and they said that they will have stock tomorrow (thats where I'll be shopping as I have a vodafone signal booster) so it'd seem that 'right now' is when its supposed to be happening. Not that you'd know... No-one seems to want to make a fuss *sigh*.
If anyone gets their tab today or tomorrow (before me) can they confirm that the Tab has the full phone functionality in it ?
All the contracts seem to offer just a data line, which is ... fine... i guess... Since I'm just going to trade my Galaxy S sim card into it, but I need to know that I'll be able to get texts and use the phone. Otherwise I'm going to be a seriously pissed off panda bear.
So yeah... an open call to UK guys getting a Tab... Trade your smartphones SIM into it and check that it'll make/recieve calls and texts.
If they've disabled the phone aspect, I swear to god I'm going to embark on an urban terror campaign... Or just ***** on the internet. Either way. I want a Tab cuz its a phone not just a dataline. I want a phone replacement, not a small iPad.
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While I was in carphone warehouse, they said they are tossing in a 16gb card with their Tabs (not sure if its just them or general thing) and I know that they are offering some other cool free stuff which I saw on the guys screen, but he didn't go back over it so I don't know what it is. Anyways, good luck.

I think the phone capabilities is a UK only thing, so youre in luck unless theyve changed things :| then ill also be a pissed off panda bear
I guess at first itll be shipped to major cities, then sent out to smaller ones later in the week.
Reguarding the 16gb sd, did they say if that was if you purchased/pre ordered there and then? The people in Norwich didnt even know you could preorder it! Must have been living under a bloody rock for the past month.
Im getting a T-Mo 30 day sim contract for unlimited data and 100 mins & texts. Have my Desire for another 1 1/2 years so I should probably make the most of my contract
Ill be so angry if i get an email later telling me its arrived at the store
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Me too. Went into my local store as they never answer the phone. Not had any delivery yet today. They say their delivery is usually after 3 and sometimes just as they are closing. They took my number and said they will call me when they have their delivery. We'll see. Customer service on the phone is useless. They know nothing. And still no email saying it's on the way to the store.

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I think the phone capabilities is a UK only thing, so youre in luck unless theyve changed things :| then ill also be a pissed off panda bear
I guess at first itll be shipped to major cities, then sent out to smaller ones later in the week.
Reguarding the 16gb sd, did they say if that was if you purchased/pre ordered there and then? The people in Norwich didnt even know you could preorder it! Must have been living under a bloody rock for the past month.
Im getting a T-Mo 30 day sim contract for unlimited data and 100 mins & texts. Have my Desire for another 1 1/2 years so I should probably make the most of my contract
Ill be so angry if i get an email later telling me its arrived at the store
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I don't know about the SD card thing. The guy said they are doing it for all the Tabs, and implied that you only get whats in the box, so it would seem that its included with every unit, but I couldn't swear to it.
The phone thing is kinda weird. We've been told for ages that we'll have the capability, but no-one is selling it as a phone. Like NO-ONE. They're pushing the video calling thing, but thats a data thing, not an actual 'phone' thing. Without ANY phone stuff on the contract, I don't even know if a contract will give me a phone number or anything. I'm particularly pissed because I was assuming that it would drop on contracts similar to smartphone contracts, but everyone is pushing ~£500 with pointlessly expencive data-only contracts. I saw one that was £20 a month for 2 years and still £450 up front! REDICULOUS! I already have an unlimited data contract and wifi practically everywhere I am for any length of time except public transport. I just cannot understand what the hell they are doing with this pricing... Totally ignoring the only thing that makes the Tab better than the competition. RAAAAAAAGE

CPW have finally updated the Tab page:
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/laptop-redirect/samsung-galaxy-tab?intcmp=hp-hp-hero-4-v1-1134
£530 with no contract or £530 with some crap Vodafone contract. Wooooo! [/sarcasm]
Anyway, reguarding the phone capabilities. Most/all screenshots of the Euro/UK tabs have either a Phone or Contacts shortcut on the homescreen. But it is strange that companies arent making a big deal about being able to make calls. :/
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Urgh. This is straight up bull****.
Also, why the hell is the carphone warehouse price for a vodafone tab HIGHER than the vodafone price ? I thought the point of going there was cuz they got stuff cheaper than straight from the network.
The vodafone prices are £499 + whatever contract. Its not much of a difference, but im seriously not happy that they want full list price on a contract. What the ****?
Has anyone seen ANY decent subsidies in the UK ? Isn't the german one going for like 100e + 17.50e a month ? See thats what I'm talking about.
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O2 want £600 btw. So thank god for small mercies.

Exactly. Full tab price and a £20 contract (?) shows how much they think about their plans. People in the Vodafone shop actually knew what a Tab was too!
If only we followed suit with the Germans. Their plans make sense. Where as ours are a bloody shamble.
Emailed CPW about when they think theyll actually have the tab and surprise surprise, no response.
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Exactly. Full tab price and a £20 contract (?) shows how much they think about their plans. People in the Vodafone shop actually knew what a Tab was too!
If only we followed suit with the Germans. Their plans make sense. Where as ours are a bloody shamble.
Emailed CPW about when they think theyll actually have the tab and surprise surprise, no response.
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That really sucks. Hope you get it sorted soon.
There's two things here that both combined I'm pissed about (more so as the day wears on). Firstly, I'm going to have to pay for the whole device up front. Second, I'm not going to have a spare service plan to kick around. If I were getting a decent subsidy OR a nice mins/txts/data bundle then I'd be cool.
Now I always knew that this wasn't going to be a cheap device, but I don't think anywhere else in the world is being hit as hard as us on the upfront price. Even the ****ing yanks who pay through the nose for every other mobile device are being told that $600 or £375 is full retail price. What the hell is that ?

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That really sucks. Hope you get it sorted soon.
There's two things here that both combined I'm pissed about (more so as the day wears on). Firstly, I'm going to have to pay for the whole device up front. Second, I'm not going to have a spare service plan to kick around. If I were getting a decent subsidy OR a nice mins/txts/data bundle then I'd be cool.
Now I always knew that this wasn't going to be a cheap device, but I don't think anywhere else in the world is being hit as hard as us on the upfront price. Even the ****ing yanks who pay through the nose for every other mobile device are being told that $600 or £375 is full retail price. What the hell is that ?
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Maybe/hopefully T-Mo & Voda will realise how high everywhere is charging compared to the rest of the world and knock it down. A lot.
If not, then T-Mo sim only deals are the best imho. 100 mins & texts and unlimited data for £10 or upgrade to 300 (i believe) for £15. I dont want to be tied to another overpriced contract tbh. :/
But, the Tab is £530 new, my Desire was priced at £500 brand new. I sure as hell would have paid the extra £30
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CPW are a real shambles these days. I eventually got an email saying mine had been shipped to the store today and giving me a DHL tracking number. Great! Only problem is that the tracking number shows it was already delivered to Sheffield in November LAST YEAR! Phoned them AGAIN and it still hadn't been shipped yet. They promised me it was being shipped today for delivery to my London store tomorrow. Of course, I could have just gone to Oxford Street today and picked one up!
By the way, the CPW website shows definitely it is a phone as the 3 contracts include minutes. Also, seems CPW supply it with a 16gb card.

My galaxy S was about £500 too, but I sure as hell didn't pay that upfront. In fact I won't have paid the original price until next summer.
That's kinda my point.
The kinda contracts we get on regular smart phones are a nice way to spread the cost of a really expensive device over a much longer time frame. From my point of view there is simply no point in getting a tab with any kind of contract, which aggravates me.
Normally they are real happy to sign you onto a contract, but here there is genuinely no point. I mean £30 quid off when you sign up for 2 years ? For something I won't even use *shakes head*.
Up until now I was just going to spread the cost out and have a spare contract sim for family/friends/whatever. Now, I'm not getting the SIM nor spreading the cost.

I went for the £30 saving with their one month rolling 1gb data contract, including 1 month free. So I may cancel after a month or two and I will still have saved. Also, having bought through Quidco, I should be getting cashback as well. Looks like it could even be £40 as that's what's been tracked by Quidco.

i was all set for this since im due for an upgrade from my 3gs but to my horror no minutes on any contracts, the 24 month contract has 100 minutes but thats it. Not really enough, 300 would have been fine.
Think im gonna get a Archos again and look at other tablets next year. Will probably stick with the 3GS. Unless of course some more options are given, you would think that one of the networks would allow you to use it as a phone. But oh no!!

Yea - Got mine from Car Phone Warehouse - Last one in stock but we are definitely getting shafted over this...
I payed 299 with a 24 month contract as I needed a 3G card anyway for a dongle.
Vodafone want Minimum £424 up front...
I am an early adopter and have waited for this device for a couple months but I would advise that people wait for a further 2 weeks or so when the prices come down as the networks are clearly playing silly £$"$£$ with this.
All contracts car phone offered had no minutes I couldn't believe it...

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Better and better! Got a new DHL number last night. Checking it this morning and it says its held at the depot because of an INCOMPLETE ADDRESS! And this was for collection from a CPW store. Couldn't even get their own address right!

Rushed home from work to Cambridge. Tried to go to PCWorld/Curry's but they weren't open. Called CPW. Their machine said they were open until 8. I walked to the mall and they were closed. It was only 5:30. Why does everything close at 5:30 here? Do businesses not like making money from people who work during the day? Lol. BTW I'm a "yank" working on an RAF base.

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Rushed home from work to Cambridge. Tried to go to PCWorld/Curry's but they weren't open. Called CPW. Their machine said they were open until 8. I walked to the mall and they were closed. It was only 5:30. Why does everything close at 5:30 here? Do businesses not like making money from people who work during the day? Lol. BTW I'm a "yank" working on an RAF base.
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Well, everyone in the UK has tea and crumpets at 6 so it gives us time to get home in time
GOOD NEWS THOIGH! Just got 2 emails; one saying they'll contact me again when my order has been processed and the other saying its been dispatched from their warehouse
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