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So I guess it really is easy to brick a MT3G - can't fastboot, can't enter recovery.
Just stays on the MT3G boot screen.
I've tried all the boot key combinations, does anyone have any magic solutions that may work?
It was rooted just fine (from the first day rooting was discovered, using the gold card method). Tried to upgrade to a CyanogenMod, and somehow messed things up. I suspect I screwed up when I flashed the radio.
Hmph.
Why did you flash a "new" radio...?
The radio that comes standard as a packaged feature for the T-Mobile USA version of the HTC Sapphire (MT3G) is 2.22.19.26I - there was NO NEED for that adjustment. I'm not suggesting that flashing a new radio is what corrupted your device, but it certainly could have contributed to the eventual cause.
The One-Click Root Method is the safest way (until patched via Google 1.6 build - also known as Donut) to ROOT your MyTouch. I've used that for three various Android devices, all of which functioned properly immediately after. No flashing of upgraded radios, SPLs, etc.
Finally, from the beginning - as any ROM flasher should know, you SHOULD HAVE backed up your STANDARD, T-MOBILE PROVIDED, Cupcake v1.5 build using NANDROID from the Recovery image. If that is the case, restore those settings and start all over with the "rooting" process using the One-Click method via the Recovery Flasher application.
Good luck.
damn i think i brick my phone after loading a radio ugh it sux
Again.
Tobi87 said:
damn i think i brick my phone after loading a radio ugh it sux
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Re-read what I posted previously.
The MyTouch comes standard with the latest radio and and SPL (even if considered PERFECT) doesn't prevent you from running any of Cyanogen's latest builds. I don't see why you thought that flashing a "new" radio was going to do something special. As for the "Gold Card" method...I don't see why you didn't think to try the easier, safer, much less work type of method. THE ONE-CLICK ROOT METHOD!
Hello,
I have a problem with my G1.
I got my G1 maybe a month ago. It had firmware 1.1 and radio module 1.22.12.29. Back then I did not realize it was a radio image compatible with firmware 1.0 as far as I gather from the HTC website.
At first, I did not intend to root it at all, a decision later I would regret. Well, it worked OK, only it was not updated. I was told I would receive the update over-the-air in 4 days. At first they said it would be to 1.5, but it turned out my operator started to upgrade straight to 1.6.
And so I did receive it in 4 days and the problems began.
Basically, the voice quality is so bad that half of what I say is ununderstandable. My voice sounds metalic and I cannot have a coherent conversation over the phone. It is a business phone, so you can imagine it is rather annoying when I have to struggle to be understood by clients.
Ok, so I checked the bootloader for the radio image version and I found out it was still version 1.22.12.29. As per the HTC website I should have 2.22.19.26I. So, obviously the radio firmware was not updated as it should be as per the HTC website. Thus, it seems the reason voice quality is so poor is the outdated radio firmware.
Since I did not plan to return my new phone to my operator (I had no time for it), I decided to root the phone and update the radio firmware myself. It seemed simple enough and I use Unix and Linux since 15 years, so it seemed it would pose no problem.
Quickly I learned that rooting 1.6 is not so simple. One-click method fails. Only goldcard worked and after a few days of struggle I finally got back to firmware RC7 and rooted the device.
Right after I updated the recovery image to CM 1.4, but before I flashed the CM ROM I attempted to update the radio firmware as was suggested by one tutorial I followed as well as the CM website.
Well, it all went smooth. After the update I pressed Home and Back, it rebooted, back to recovery CM1.4, one more time Home and Back and I was back to the working phone. I checked the radio firmware and lo and behold, it was still version 1.22.12.29. No errors, nothing, smooth update process and no result. I repeated it at least 5 times to no avail.
I decided to install CM 4.2.7.1 ROM and try to update the radio then. Before the CM ROM I updated the SPL to HardSPL with success to have fastboot and went to install CM. It went smooth and I booted into this new rooted G1 ROM with ease.
Again, I attempted to update the radio firmware from recovery CM1.4 and again no results.
So, I am back to square one. I have again firmware 1.6 only from CM instead of stock HTC, and I cannot use this phone for calling.
So, summarizing, I got the phone with firmware 1.1, but radio firmware from 1.0. Why it was not updated together with the system I do not know. Then I got an update to 1.6 and the radio firmware also did not upgrade. Then I went back to RC7 (firmware 1.0), rooted the phone, attempted the radio firmware update before installing CM ROM and failed. And finally, I installed HardSPL + HTC 1.6 recovery (as suggested on the CM website) + CM ROM and again failed to update the radio firmware to 2.22.19.26I. The update process is going without any errors. Verification, extracting, installation of radio image all go OK, the phone reboots but no radio updated.
Anybody any idea why it is like this? Why this phone refuses to update the radio from HTC website.
Any suggestions?
Oliwer
PS. One more thing, I was contemplating updating the radio via fastboot, but it seems after reading HTC website that fastboot is only for system and recovery image flashing. The radio has to go first adn from recovery console. Am I right on this?
I too have a problem updating to the 26i version. however i rooted at 1.5 using the one click root method and ive since switched from cyan 1.4 recovery and cyan roms to amon recovery and dwang roms. No matter which recovery i use, the 26 update flashes without an error but shows up as the same radio ive had all along (1.22.14.11) i made a thread about it but noone seems to have an answer. Sorry I couldnt help, but at least bumped up your thread and maybe someone can help us.
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I too have a problem updating to the 26i version. however i rooted at 1.5 using the one click root method and ive since switched from cyan 1.4 recovery and cyan roms to amon recovery and dwang roms. No matter which recovery i use, the 26 update flashes without an error but shows up as the same radio ive had all along (1.22.14.11) i made a thread about it but noone seems to have an answer. Sorry I couldnt help, but at least bumped up your thread and maybe someone can help us.
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Thanks for sharing!
At least I know I am not alone here with this problem.
Since it's Christmas and I have some more time, I decided to do a Nandroid backup and wipe my phone back to the original rom with 1.0 firmware (RC7).
I used my goldcard and I flashed it in a few minutes. I logged back into 1.0 firmware with the original bootloader and recovery console.
Next I put everything on my goldcard, flashed the recovery CM1.4 from the terminal, went to the bootloader, flashed update.zip with the newest radio 2.x from HTC, everything went smooth. Reboot and again NO change of the firmware. Tried a few more times flash the radio and HardSPL together to no avail. I restored my backup and found myself back to square one.
One think I noticed, and I wonder if you get the same, is that when I flash the radio, the phone reboots back to the recovery console and shows "Formating Cache..." message. It does not tell me anything like Please reboot, just this message. Meanwhile I can move the cursor up and down the recovery menu, so the phone has not hang up. It just sits at the recovery until I reboot it. Once I waited 30 minutes to see if it reboots itself and it does not. So, I press Home+Back and then it reboots fully and after loging in I check the radio and NO change.
So, I wonder if your phone does the same?
Oliwer
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T-Mobile G1 - w/ ROOT
DREA110 PVT 32B
HardSPL 10.95.3000
Recovery image: HTC Android 1.6 (from HTC website)
Class IV 8GB SD Card w/ Ext 4 Partition and Swap partition
That's a huge wall of text, and it's Christmas so I'm a little merry
When flashing the radio image w/ Cy's recovery you must flash as an update.zip using alt-s, press whatever key you need to press to confirm and reboot using home+back. If you use flash any zip or use the trackball to reboot the radio image (or SPL) will not reboot in the required way to complete installation.
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When flashing the radio image w/ Cy's recovery you must flash as an update.zip using alt-s, press whatever key you need to press to confirm and reboot using home+back. If you use flash any zip or use the trackball to reboot the radio image (or SPL) will not reboot in the required way to complete installation.
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I tried all possible ways. Just a few minutes ago I went to CM1.4 recovery, used the update from update.zip, pressed Home+Back, rebooted back to recovery console, pressed Home+Back again, booted to CM4.2.10, punched the PIN code, checked the About Phone section and I am still with 1.22.x radio firmware.
This phone simply refuses to update the firmware in any known way.
So, my plan now is to un-root it back to the state I got it 2 months ago and return it to the operator and request upgrade of radio, since Donut with an old radio is basically useless. People simply do not understand half of what I say even if I speak slowly and quietly.
Cheers,
Oliwer
You have to press
Cam+power and it will show radio
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In settings that radio has nothing to do with one installed...Do you know that the radio does?
It allows custom roms like cyan to be installed while keeping root access. The rom allows some tmo apps like account to still be used here in the states.
yes oliwer i get the same formatting cache message but nothing else happens. i tried in cyans recovery and amons recovery using only button shortcuts and not the trackball. i always named the radio update.zip, but still no luck. Im not sure if the 26i radio requires a certain version before it can upgrade, like maybe i have to upgrade to another radio before i can get to 26i? im not quite sure...ive run out of ideas on what to do. I dont have a warranty or anything on my g1. does the fact im using a donut rom on a cupcake radio have anything to do with it? if i had a cupcake rom and upgraded the radio to 26i from there would it work? i know these might sound like dumb ideas but im still relatively new to the scene and im running out of ideas as to why this is happening or why i cant solve it..
bump? anyone have a solution for us? or advice?
i just realized that i had android 1.1 with the 1.22.14.11 radio when i first got my phone, when t-mobile gave me the 1.5 update, i was still stuck on the same radio for some reason. After that I used the one click method to root and ive been on dwang donut rom ever since with the same dated radio...Ive tried using cyans recovery to flash and still no luck, no error, it says its updated but when i check the baseband or stock spl its still the same radio. I never went for a danger spl when i rooted because i was afraid to brick so i cant fastboot a radio update. I asked in another topic if it was possible to use the "flash_image" command in terminal to flash the radio but i dnt think itll work and i dont wanna risk it. If anyone has any advice or a possible solution please keep us updated.
Thank you!
Turn your phone off, hold the camera button down, and power on your phone.
What do you see?
each time before and after the flashing of the radio using cyans or amons recovery image id get the same rainbow screen saying
DREA100 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
RADIO-1.22.14.11
Serial0
so im still stuck on the Android 1.1 radio.
speedysilwady said:
yes oliwer i get the same formatting cache message but nothing else happens. i tried in cyans recovery and amons recovery using only button shortcuts and not the trackball. i always named the radio update.zip, but still no luck. Im not sure if the 26i radio requires a certain version before it can upgrade, like maybe i have to upgrade to another radio before i can get to 26i? im not quite sure...ive run out of ideas on what to do. I dont have a warranty or anything on my g1. does the fact im using a donut rom on a cupcake radio have anything to do with it? if i had a cupcake rom and upgraded the radio to 26i from there would it work? i know these might sound like dumb ideas but im still relatively new to the scene and im running out of ideas as to why this is happening or why i cant solve it..
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I do not know, really, why the radio refuses to upgrade. Since my last message I have read tons of posts on this issue and nearly ALL people can upgrade the radio firmware easily, just like the SPL. Somehow, I can upgrade the SPL to whatever I want, but not the radio. Very strange indeed and no luck so far.
Oliwer
speedysilwady said:
bump? anyone have a solution for us? or advice?
i just realized that i had android 1.1 with the 1.22.14.11 radio when i first got my phone, when t-mobile gave me the 1.5 update, i was still stuck on the same radio for some reason.
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Exactly the same in my case. Except they upgraded straight to 1.6. Before the upgrade I have 1.1 firmaware and quality of voice was perfect. After the upgrade things went south.
speedysilwady said:
After that I used the one click method to root and ive been on dwang donut rom ever since with the same dated radio...Ive tried using cyans recovery to flash and still no luck, no error, it says its updated but when i check the baseband or stock spl its still the same radio.
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Same thing with me.
speedysilwady said:
I never went for a danger spl when i rooted because i was afraid to brick so i cant fastboot a radio update.
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Well, I installed HardSPL and it worked despite the old radio. HardSPL offers FASTBOOT and I use it at times. This is safe, at least for me.
speedysilwady said:
I asked in another topic if it was possible to use the "flash_image" command in terminal to flash the radio but i dnt think itll work and i dont wanna risk it.
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Well, I did, but it does not work since flash_image updates partitions and G1 does not have radio partition. So, when you try to update the radio.img it tells you no radio partition. It is only possible for Roger G1 since it has radio partition unlike all other G1s and there you could upgrade the radio with flash_image.
speedysilwady said:
If anyone has any advice or a possible solution please keep us updated.
Thank you!
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Yeap! I just practised how to un-root the phone straight to 1.6 with the original SPL and recovery and I was able to restore my phone to the state before rooting and I plan to give it back to my operator under warranty and ask to get this radio fixed. I will do it next week. I will report if the authorized service will be able to upgrade the radio.
Oliwer
I have a black G1 with a 32b board,I found a rom online that was for the rogers dream,I didn't think it would flash the recovery image too,so I flashed it thinking if it didn't work I would be able to just flash to a different rom. That didn't work. it boots up as a rogers dream,and is fully working,but I can't flash back to anything else because it's a stock recovery image,and even though I had the engineering spl,it messed that up too,it still shows the skateboarding androids,but with a cyan stripe at the top of the screen and it won't even flash the htc images for the dev phone,or the normal rc29 DREAIMG.nbh. anyone have any ideas? fastboot tells me remote not allow,bootloader to the DREAIMG.nbh says either main version old,or model id mismatch,most of the time it's the main version thing though,and the recovery thing tells me no signature found if I try to flash the htc images and verification failed if I try to flash anything else that i've tried. anyone have any ideas? it was the 911 mandatory update from rogers that was supposed to also add sense if that helps anyone any.
1) THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A 32A DREAM!!!!
32A means SOME HTC MAGIC, and ALL HTC HERO.
ALL DREAM 100% WORLDWIDE are 32B
*** NO EXCEPTIONS.
2) You need to provide more information: WHAT did you flash to the device.... SPECIFICALLY. And HOW DOES EVERYTHING IDENTIFY ITSELF, i.e. SPL, BASEBAND, KERNEL, etc., does the "su" command work?
3) I have ZERO expectations for you. Anyone with a screen name of "msnuser" is not worthy of android.
it's the rom from comment 102 on this page:androidforums.com/rogers/38624-rogers-update-911-fix-rogers-htc-dream-magic-ready-3.html the rom says on the recovery screen dream PVT-32A and it used to be PVT-32B. Not sure how it worked or how it booted,but the phone says it has 87mb free on the internal storage and it runs a lot quicker than it did on any rom I've ever used before,I just miss my rooted apps. I traded phones with my brother because he never uses rooted apps anyway,he was running stock tmobile firmware and was glad to have a faster os.
Hello all, thank you for this great resource and any insight you can provide.
I need some of your wisdom, as I've been banging my head against a brick wall for about two weeks now, trying to root my T-Mobile MyTouch 1.2 (HTC Magic) with the 3.5" jack.
I did a couple hours of homework and began the process, but currently am stuck at the HTC Magic splash screen on normal boot up. I cannot boot into recovery; I have tried flashing both the Amon Ra versions, H and G. I can, however, boot into hboot and fastboot menu options, so it my understanding that my phone is salvageable with the right tools and process. Unfortunately, I was given bad advice—or incorrectly followed good advice—and now all the instructions I find to restore functionality to my phone don't go smoothly.
I've spent countless hours trying proposed found threads here (mostly) and other resources, but while the solutions sound like the apply to my hardware, they fail to complete successfully.
I have created two goldcards, both appear to work, as I have been able to flash a sappimg.zip image initially, but currently trying to flash again to remedy problems hangs and requires me to pull the battery. It usually hangs at the initial unzipping or at updating radio_v2. Via fastboot, I have been able to flash the stock hboot.nbo and reflash different versions. I was able to flash to the stock radio once, but have had problems trying to reflash images, trying to correct the issue.
These details have read different things at different stages in trying proposed solutions, but currently the info on fastboot menu reads:
SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-6.35.10.18
At this moment, I've stopped trying to find answers on the forum because I've spent countless hours failing and more importantly, fear that if I continue applying incorrect solutions, I will irreversibly damage my phone. I hope that someone can provide some advice tailored to my situation.
Thank you for reading and for your reply. I understand that any advice I receive is at my own risk to follow.
Option one: flash the .nbo file for te engineerings 1.33.2010 spl and thz flash the g recovery.
Option two: flash the sappimg to revert back to stock then stsrt all over again
Option three: flash the stock sappimg and stay at stock thanking jesus you didnt **** anything up.
Sent from my HTC Magic using XDA App
You did not read the mytouch 1.2 rooting guide correctly. This phone can only run stock spl and radio. Read the guide at the unlockr. After using the goldcard you should have flashed stock spl and radio using fastboot.
NetrixTardis said:
You did not read the mytouch 1.2 rooting guide correctly. This phone can only run stock spl and radio. Read the guide at the unlockr. After using the goldcard you should have flashed stock spl and radio using fastboot.
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I tried the files and process indicated on Unlockr several times. The files and process located here: theunlockr.com/2010/03/11/how-to-root-the-mytouch-1-2-and-fender-mytouch/
Attempting again, just now, I run into the same roadblock as reported in my initial post: Immediately after clicking the action button to execute the update, the process hangs at 'Unzipping' on step [1] SYSTEM, where the progress bar never moves, and pulling the battery is the only thing that works (unfortunately, since I'm warned not to power off the device!).
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Option one: flash the .nbo file for te engineerings 1.33.2010 spl and thz flash the g recovery.
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Thank you so much for your response.
Attempting option 1, I get the following messaging in the terminal while trying to flash the hboot.img (not nb0, is this wrong?) downloaded from the 'Magic SPL HBOOT collection' thread located here: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529019
sending 'hboot' (512 KB)... OKAY
writing 'hboot'... INFOsignature checking...
FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)
In the previous reply to another helpful commenter I describe another error I get while attempting to update the sappimg provided by Unlockr.
Further insight is very much appreciated.
so this is the second time I'm seeing this exact problem... this is keeping me from rooting this mytouch. but last time i saw this problem I believe it was solved.. i can't remember where i saw it though! I'll look and look until i find it then i'll post it here!
but in the mean time you can try unrooting it until the problem is solved?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=665814
lbsk8addict said:
last time i saw this problem I believe it was solved.. i can't remember where i saw it though! I'll look and look until i find it then i'll post it here!
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Thank you! I hope that you do.
lbsk8addict said:
but in the mean time you can try unrooting it until the problem is solved?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=665814
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I've visited that thread before in my days of lurking, but didn't attempt it (I don't think—I've tried so many things, it's hard to remember fully at this point).
I think all I have right now are goldcards. I hope a stock SD card isn't needed, or I'll have to figure out how to restore a Kingston microSD or buy another.
Thanks again for all of your input.
lbsk8addict said:
but in the mean time you can try unrooting it until the problem is solved?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=665814
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Follow up, attempting to update to MT3G 1.2 Sappimg (BUILD# 2.10.531.4) downloaded via that link, I encounter the second error documented in my initial post, the update process hangs at updating step [2] RADIO_V2. The red progress bar stops at about 95%. Pulling the battery out is the only way to escape.
I think, and this is just a gut-level guess, that my problem stems from a corrupt radio version. Any one have an opinion or advice about that?
After pulling the battery and booting back into fastboot, my versioning reads as follows:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO 6.35.10.18
You have a 32a radio with a 32b spl, during the root process you are supposed to be able to revert that. What we need to do is get you onto an eng spl so you can fastboot erase radio, fastboot flash radio, then flash the correct hboot aka the stock one. Right now you cant fastboot or anything aka you are semi bricked. Only thing i can say is let it sit o the charger for as long as possible for the sappimg update and pray lots n lots.
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You have a 32a radio with a 32b spl, during the root process you are supposed to be able to revert that.
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Thank you so much for the follow up. I wish the news were better!
How can you tell that I have a 32b SPL? By the errors I'm experiencing? The SAPP310000? Just guesses here. I don't see that on my phone so, I'm curious to learn.
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What we need to do is get you onto an eng spl so you can fastboot erase radio, fastboot flash radio, then flash the correct hboot aka the stock one. Right now you cant fastboot or anything aka you are semi bricked. Only thing i can say is let it sit o the charger for as long as possible for the sappimg update and pray lots n lots.
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Are you advising my to sit on my hands, keeping my phone charged, until, hopefully, the development community comes up with a new sappimg solution? Or are you saying to preform the 1.33.2010 engineering SPL update until success or my phone dies?
I was stating to do the update where it freezes or hangs on the radio and let it sit for a crazy amount of time with praers, the spl version is defing by the numbers i the 1.33.0013 etc area, 32a users have 1.76.xxxx sp numbers while 32b users have 1.33.xxxx and after looking i see you are on the stouch 1.2 spl which is why fastbooting anything will not work. Quick question though did you try flashing te spl and radio BEFORE the recovery?
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I was stating to do the update where it freezes or hangs on the radio and let it sit for a crazy amount of time with praers, the spl version is defing by the numbers i the 1.33.0013 etc area, 32a users have 1.76.xxxx sp numbers while 32b users have 1.33.xxxx and after looking i see you are on the stouch 1.2 spl which is why fastbooting anything will not work.
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Thank you for the reply. Good to know, as I was under the impression that all T-Mobile MyTouch 1.2 phones were 32A, and 1.33.0013 was the desired and appropriate version for 32A.
knny1491 said:
Quick question though did you try flashing te spl and radio BEFORE the recovery
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I initially tried followed the procedure here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_Fender/1.2
Where, I updated the SAPPIMG via goldcard, then through fastboot, I flashed the radio, hboot, and recovery. But, I wasn't able to boot to recovery after that process, for whatever reason, so I began trying other procedures from other sources, which in all likelihood took me further away from the solution instead of closer.
If the current attempt of updating radio_v2 until success or power battery dies (which has been hung for about 30 minutes so far) does not end successfully, should I try flashing a different hboot or radio? Or any other suggestions?
Thanks again for your continued help. I'm going to try to get some more attention to this thread to hopefully get more possible solutions.
If the radio doesnt flash then we have to question why the recovery didnt load, the g version is the correct version given there is only one spl for us 1.2 users and it is a google spl. That is why you flash radio then spl then recovery in that order so nothing messes up. The thing is you have to flash a radio before spl, yet you hav the spl yet NOT THE RADIO which leaves me to believe you accidentalky did the spl first n not the radio first.
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knny1491 said:
If the radio doesnt flash then we have to question why the recovery didnt load, the g version is the correct version given there is only one spl for us 1.2 users and it is a google spl. That is why you flash radio then spl then recovery in that order so nothing messes up. The thing is you have to flash a radio before spl, yet you hav the spl yet NOT THE RADIO which leaves me to believe you accidentalky did the spl first n not the radio first.
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Okay, thanks so much for the continued insight.
I think, I flashed the radio down to original, but encountered some problem, misdiagnosed it, and flashed it back up again. Now it's been about 3 weeks of messing with this phone for a couple hours a day, so, unfortunately, it's hard to remember all that I've tried. If what you're saying is true, then yes, I must have accidentally flashed the SPL before the radio. Is there a remedy for this? I've been pouring over this forum searching for "can't flash radio" (forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=39519193&pp=25&page=1) and so far I've read people claiming to have had successfully deleting their radios completely and reinstalling. Is this an option? Any other suggestions?
I will PayPal $30 to you, anyone who can give me a solution to where this phone is working and rooted. Alternatively, I live in Los Angeles, if anyone can recommend a good, knowledgeable, phone repair shop.
it's really strange why that didn't work for you.
My steps were as follows:
**make sure phone is fully charged**
pre 1) create goldcard
1) place sappimg.zip on gold card
2) boot phone with goldcard to flash using Vold down + power
3) let it reboot - should boot up to the "htc magic" logo -- for me it never loaded back up to stock 1.6, I had to pull the battery.
4) boot to fastboot using back + power
5) connect phone to PC and verified it was recognized using "fastboot devices"
6) make sure you have stock radio and spl in your Android SDK's \tools
7) performed the following:
fastboot flash radio radio.img (or whatever the filename you have for the stock radio)
fastboot flash hboot hboot.nb0 (or whatever the filename you have for the stock hboot)
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img (or whatever the filename you have for amon_ra or clockwork or cm recovery)
fastboot reboot-bootloader (to make sure that stock radio and SPL are loaded again)
8) reboot to recovery using home+power
*from this point on, you no longer need to use your goldcard
9) have new ROM .zip on root of your SD card, option flash from zip
10) ???
11) profit
NetrixTardis said:
it's really strange why that didn't work for you.
My steps were as follows:
**make sure phone is fully charged**
pre 1) create goldcard
1) place sappimg.zip on gold card
2) boot phone with goldcard to flash using Vold down + power
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Thank you for your continued feedback!
I think you've listed the standard recipe for rooting this phone. I believe you. Unfortunately, something in my phone has gone askew (certainly my error) at this point and the "standard" just isn't working now. As is, and for the past 3 weeks, the process you describe dies at step 2. It hangs while updating RADIO_v2 (at whatever position in the list of updates it is for a given SAPPIMG file). Also, attempting to flash a stock radio.img via fastboot also hangs. Both updates send just fine, but hang at updating around 95%.
I've also been getting some advice from another member, knny1491. On this page, above, you'll see he hypothesises what my error is:
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If the radio doesnt flash then we have to question why the recovery didnt load, the g version is the correct version given there is only one spl for us 1.2 users and it is a google spl. That is why you flash radio then spl then recovery in that order so nothing messes up. The thing is you have to flash a radio before spl, yet you hav the spl yet NOT THE RADIO which leaves me to believe you accidentalky did the spl first n not the radio first.
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That sounds plausible that I did flash things in the wrong order. I'll accept that. I've been messing with it so much, I'm lucky it works at all. So now, and still, my question is where to go from here? Do you know anything about this radio/SPL relationship and how to remedy this current conflict, NetrixTardis?
Thanks again.
Possibly try to re download the sappimg from the mgic spl thread?
I was just thinking, if your goal at this point is to have the phone usable again regardless of root; why not try the RUU exe ? If i unserstand what it does, it should flash the phone back to stock (radio, spl, recovery,ROM etc). You'll have a phone as if you just unboxed it.
Thats if i understand what the ROM Upgrade Utility (RUU) does correctly. Someone should be able to correct me...
NetrixTardis said:
I was just thinking, if your goal at this point is to have the phone usable again regardless of root; why not try the RUU exe ? If i unserstand what it does, it should flash the phone back to stock (radio, spl, recovery,ROM etc). You'll have a phone as if you just unboxed it.
Thats if i understand what the ROM Upgrade Utility (RUU) does correctly. Someone should be able to correct me...
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Thanks for the idea! I'll do some research on that. If anyone else can give any insight into if this may help restore my phone, please chime in!
I'd like root, but anything that gets the basic utility of the phone back would be great at this point (I've been using a old razr as a replacement while mine is hosed). I think an official 2.2 update is coming out from T-Mobile soon. I can wait for that.
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Thats if i understand what the ROM Upgrade Utility (RUU) does correctly. Someone should be able to correct me...
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If this is a good potential solution, could someone please direct me to which RUU to use? I've located the "[ROM] Official HTC Sapphire/Magic/MT3G RUU ROM Links" thread here: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=659403
There really is a great abundance of options. I'm guessing I should go for the latest [MT3G 1.2] download which is:
36) [xda-ftp] [4shared] 2.10.531.4 T-Mobile USA DRD35
36) 2.10.531.4 1.33.0013G 2.22.23.02 N T-MOB010
I'll want a few hours or perhaps a day before attempting this process, in hopes that some helpful reader will provide his input if this is a good or bad thing to do as far as getting the phone working again.
Thanks!
Hi all,
today i discovered something strange and i like to get your opinion on that:
I am not able to do s-off things in fastboot even if i have s-off!
Situation:
Phone: Desire Z
HBOOT: stock 0.85.0005
FW: 1.34..
Rooted: did root, supercid and s-off via gfree and verified via gfree_verify - even hboot showes up S-OFF
ROM: GingerVillain 1.5
Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.0.5
Problem:
First of all, i myself have no problem, but i started experimenting after a friend semi-bricked his desire z with same setup.
I did a nandroid backup and when i boot into hboot and do a 'fastboot flash recovery recovery.img' (with my nandroid recovery.img) i always get a remote: not allowed.
Now from my point of view this should only happen if I have a S-ON and should be impossible with S-OFF ?! Even using 'fastboot oem rebootRUU' does not change anything.
The thing that concerns me about that is: If something destroys both system and recovery, your pretty much screwed + bricked because hboot is not allowed to write to something other then cache and all of this basic stuff doesn't work:
- flash recovery with CW
- flash a complete zip
- flash an other hboot
- RUU
When I rooted my phone i have read everywhere that eng-hboots are not necessary any longer. But it appears that they are the only thing that helps and you have to install them as long as you have a working ROM.
Any thoughts on that issue / can you reproduce this / are fastboot actions logged anywhere?
You need a ENG. HBoot to use fastboot commands, doesn't matter if your s-off.
yeah, i came to the same conclusion..
is there any chance to flash a eng-hboot from a bricked 0.85.0005? i did some experimentation with a goldcard, but at least remote commands didn't change in behaviour..
I think being full-bricked when something goes wrong and not having an eng-hboot already installed is not an acceptable solution for most people here
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yeah, i came to the same conclusion..
is there any chance to flash a eng-hboot from a bricked 0.85.0005?
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maybe thru a modified PC10IMG.zip
I think being full-bricked when something goes wrong and not having an eng-hboot already installed is not an acceptable solution for most people here
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My thoughts exactly, its kind of a safety if you can't boot into android.
i'm not sure if a PC10IMG.zip will help at all.. my friend tried flashing both 1.34 and 1.72 RUU ROMs as PC10IMG and this didn't change anything.. in fact, the 1.72 even didn' install the new .00008 hbott, so i thing there is some heavy write protection in the hboot making it more or less useless..
what i can imagine that works is aa gokldcard with sppimg.zip, but i haven't yet found one for the desire z..
i have the feeling that this is a huge problem because with a short research i have found at least 3 threads of people having bricked their phone exactly this way and are now stuck.. some of the experts here might pay attention to this problem and in my opinion you should also consider removing the 'a eng-hboot is not needed, don't use it' advice from the rooting section of the wiki..
So what exactly is your problem.
You destroyed recovery and system?
If yes, and you used gfree to get Super-CID just install an PC10IMG that has a version higher or equal to the main version in you misc partition. And then do the whole downgrading, rooting, flashing recovery again.
If you are not Super-CID you might need a goldcard in addition if the CID of the phone is not supported by the PC10IMG that you whant to install.
have fun Guhl
It is almost impossible to brick this phone. The only possible way might be a failed copy of the eng-hboot and this is why the warning is and stays in the wiki.
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I thought so, too, but when flashing a newer original RUU using the PC10IMG.zip, the flash process runs okay, but after the restart nothing (still hangs in HTC screen, no new hboot) changes so apparently no changes are made..
So from my point of view the phone is more or less bricked.. i guess maybe some custome PC10IMG with an eng-hboot might change this, but i only found one for the G2 and wasn't able to find one for the DZ.. Thats why I thing that removing the 'UNNECESSARY' advice is justified (of course i don't want the warning advice that this can brick the phone to be removed)..