MT3G Bricking sucks :( - myTouch 3G, Magic General

So I guess it really is easy to brick a MT3G - can't fastboot, can't enter recovery.
Just stays on the MT3G boot screen.
I've tried all the boot key combinations, does anyone have any magic solutions that may work?
It was rooted just fine (from the first day rooting was discovered, using the gold card method). Tried to upgrade to a CyanogenMod, and somehow messed things up. I suspect I screwed up when I flashed the radio.

Hmph.
Why did you flash a "new" radio...?
The radio that comes standard as a packaged feature for the T-Mobile USA version of the HTC Sapphire (MT3G) is 2.22.19.26I - there was NO NEED for that adjustment. I'm not suggesting that flashing a new radio is what corrupted your device, but it certainly could have contributed to the eventual cause.
The One-Click Root Method is the safest way (until patched via Google 1.6 build - also known as Donut) to ROOT your MyTouch. I've used that for three various Android devices, all of which functioned properly immediately after. No flashing of upgraded radios, SPLs, etc.
Finally, from the beginning - as any ROM flasher should know, you SHOULD HAVE backed up your STANDARD, T-MOBILE PROVIDED, Cupcake v1.5 build using NANDROID from the Recovery image. If that is the case, restore those settings and start all over with the "rooting" process using the One-Click method via the Recovery Flasher application.
Good luck.

damn i think i brick my phone after loading a radio ugh it sux

Again.
Tobi87 said:
damn i think i brick my phone after loading a radio ugh it sux
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Re-read what I posted previously.
The MyTouch comes standard with the latest radio and and SPL (even if considered PERFECT) doesn't prevent you from running any of Cyanogen's latest builds. I don't see why you thought that flashing a "new" radio was going to do something special. As for the "Gold Card" method...I don't see why you didn't think to try the easier, safer, much less work type of method. THE ONE-CLICK ROOT METHOD!

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Trouble getting 32B roms on my MT3G

I rooted my MT3G early on using the goldcard method - it is currently running the RAv1.1.0h rom from the original rooting thread. It has the 1.33.2005 SPL and the 3.22.20.17 radio. In fastboot I can see that it the SPL is an HTC version (I think that is what PVT 32B ENG S-OFF H means, right?).
I'm having trouble moving to a 32B rom, and no matter what I try, I can't get the damn recovery image to switch from the current RAv1.2.1H to the G - which is (I assume) why I can't install any 32B roms.
Any foolproof way to change my recovery image from H to G? I've followed all the steps listed on how to do this in Fastboot and using ADB to switch it over, but no matter what I do, it has no problems booting correctly with an H recovery image, but not with a G.
Any 32B roms just makes the phone hang at the splashscreen, so I know it's a rom issue.
OR - Am I missing a step here - is there a different spl I need in order to get my MyTouch 3G to think it is a G edition again. OR easier yet, should I stop whining and just find a reliable 32A rom that works on it (assuming something without too much HERO stuff?).
YES - I searched everywhere, I spent countless hours on it, but I can't help feel I've missed something really stupid, so feel free to call me names and point out the obvious (just don't say "try Google).
Are you still able to use flashrec? If yes try to flash this one>> cm-recovery-1.4 works fine if you want 32B roms. Enom uploaded latest version yesterday.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549754 nd if you want version prior to this then go to http://www.4shared.com/file/129108782/3953f016/HTC__crc1__Android_rooted_Rom_32B_TMobile.html
unzip and make sure to install one after the other. Large one first and rename as update ,put in your sd card. Once that is performed then go to the next small one about 14mb. Rename as update and put it in sdcard. Dont forget to delete the large one if already there.
Let us know how you go on.
No - Flashrec won't run since the rom I'm currently using has the exploit patched.
Good tip though, thanks! Any other thoughts on why I can't get the 1.2.1G recovery image on my phone? Or an alternative way to get it to install?
EDIT: Took a few steps back, installed the sappimg for the MT3G, then did flashrec and then did the update with the rom you posted. Thanks so much for the tip and inspiration!
Yes, well done.Thanks for letting us know.And yes flashrec wont work on these rom also. I tried many times to flash with RAv 1.2.1image but it seems it was not possible. I asked emon in his T Mobile rom thread where he gave me a tip as to how to go about RAv.... but that hasnt worked.
But there is a solution if al you want is to make 3 partitions.
I followed Paaragon method as described on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512873
and it worked. So try that.
I tried many different roms and finally settled on enomther's
because it is very fast, not too cluttered and just perfect for 32B boards. And further more, there isnt anything that doesnt function.
PS: I prefered the one prior to current as on 4shared. But thats personal.
unroot completly by re insttalling the saphimg and go with the oneclick root method from the unlocker thats what i did and TITS! perfict running hero and full 32 b envierment raido and roms ... be carefull with the 32 a 32 b mixup could be the end of your touch....

Radio update problem...

Hello,
I have a problem with my G1.
I got my G1 maybe a month ago. It had firmware 1.1 and radio module 1.22.12.29. Back then I did not realize it was a radio image compatible with firmware 1.0 as far as I gather from the HTC website.
At first, I did not intend to root it at all, a decision later I would regret. Well, it worked OK, only it was not updated. I was told I would receive the update over-the-air in 4 days. At first they said it would be to 1.5, but it turned out my operator started to upgrade straight to 1.6.
And so I did receive it in 4 days and the problems began.
Basically, the voice quality is so bad that half of what I say is ununderstandable. My voice sounds metalic and I cannot have a coherent conversation over the phone. It is a business phone, so you can imagine it is rather annoying when I have to struggle to be understood by clients.
Ok, so I checked the bootloader for the radio image version and I found out it was still version 1.22.12.29. As per the HTC website I should have 2.22.19.26I. So, obviously the radio firmware was not updated as it should be as per the HTC website. Thus, it seems the reason voice quality is so poor is the outdated radio firmware.
Since I did not plan to return my new phone to my operator (I had no time for it), I decided to root the phone and update the radio firmware myself. It seemed simple enough and I use Unix and Linux since 15 years, so it seemed it would pose no problem.
Quickly I learned that rooting 1.6 is not so simple. One-click method fails. Only goldcard worked and after a few days of struggle I finally got back to firmware RC7 and rooted the device.
Right after I updated the recovery image to CM 1.4, but before I flashed the CM ROM I attempted to update the radio firmware as was suggested by one tutorial I followed as well as the CM website.
Well, it all went smooth. After the update I pressed Home and Back, it rebooted, back to recovery CM1.4, one more time Home and Back and I was back to the working phone. I checked the radio firmware and lo and behold, it was still version 1.22.12.29. No errors, nothing, smooth update process and no result. I repeated it at least 5 times to no avail.
I decided to install CM 4.2.7.1 ROM and try to update the radio then. Before the CM ROM I updated the SPL to HardSPL with success to have fastboot and went to install CM. It went smooth and I booted into this new rooted G1 ROM with ease.
Again, I attempted to update the radio firmware from recovery CM1.4 and again no results.
So, I am back to square one. I have again firmware 1.6 only from CM instead of stock HTC, and I cannot use this phone for calling.
So, summarizing, I got the phone with firmware 1.1, but radio firmware from 1.0. Why it was not updated together with the system I do not know. Then I got an update to 1.6 and the radio firmware also did not upgrade. Then I went back to RC7 (firmware 1.0), rooted the phone, attempted the radio firmware update before installing CM ROM and failed. And finally, I installed HardSPL + HTC 1.6 recovery (as suggested on the CM website) + CM ROM and again failed to update the radio firmware to 2.22.19.26I. The update process is going without any errors. Verification, extracting, installation of radio image all go OK, the phone reboots but no radio updated.
Anybody any idea why it is like this? Why this phone refuses to update the radio from HTC website.
Any suggestions?
Oliwer
PS. One more thing, I was contemplating updating the radio via fastboot, but it seems after reading HTC website that fastboot is only for system and recovery image flashing. The radio has to go first adn from recovery console. Am I right on this?
I too have a problem updating to the 26i version. however i rooted at 1.5 using the one click root method and ive since switched from cyan 1.4 recovery and cyan roms to amon recovery and dwang roms. No matter which recovery i use, the 26 update flashes without an error but shows up as the same radio ive had all along (1.22.14.11) i made a thread about it but noone seems to have an answer. Sorry I couldnt help, but at least bumped up your thread and maybe someone can help us.
speedysilwady said:
I too have a problem updating to the 26i version. however i rooted at 1.5 using the one click root method and ive since switched from cyan 1.4 recovery and cyan roms to amon recovery and dwang roms. No matter which recovery i use, the 26 update flashes without an error but shows up as the same radio ive had all along (1.22.14.11) i made a thread about it but noone seems to have an answer. Sorry I couldnt help, but at least bumped up your thread and maybe someone can help us.
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Thanks for sharing!
At least I know I am not alone here with this problem.
Since it's Christmas and I have some more time, I decided to do a Nandroid backup and wipe my phone back to the original rom with 1.0 firmware (RC7).
I used my goldcard and I flashed it in a few minutes. I logged back into 1.0 firmware with the original bootloader and recovery console.
Next I put everything on my goldcard, flashed the recovery CM1.4 from the terminal, went to the bootloader, flashed update.zip with the newest radio 2.x from HTC, everything went smooth. Reboot and again NO change of the firmware. Tried a few more times flash the radio and HardSPL together to no avail. I restored my backup and found myself back to square one.
One think I noticed, and I wonder if you get the same, is that when I flash the radio, the phone reboots back to the recovery console and shows "Formating Cache..." message. It does not tell me anything like Please reboot, just this message. Meanwhile I can move the cursor up and down the recovery menu, so the phone has not hang up. It just sits at the recovery until I reboot it. Once I waited 30 minutes to see if it reboots itself and it does not. So, I press Home+Back and then it reboots fully and after loging in I check the radio and NO change.
So, I wonder if your phone does the same?
Oliwer
PS.
T-Mobile G1 - w/ ROOT
DREA110 PVT 32B
HardSPL 10.95.3000
Recovery image: HTC Android 1.6 (from HTC website)
Class IV 8GB SD Card w/ Ext 4 Partition and Swap partition
That's a huge wall of text, and it's Christmas so I'm a little merry
When flashing the radio image w/ Cy's recovery you must flash as an update.zip using alt-s, press whatever key you need to press to confirm and reboot using home+back. If you use flash any zip or use the trackball to reboot the radio image (or SPL) will not reboot in the required way to complete installation.
AdrianK said:
When flashing the radio image w/ Cy's recovery you must flash as an update.zip using alt-s, press whatever key you need to press to confirm and reboot using home+back. If you use flash any zip or use the trackball to reboot the radio image (or SPL) will not reboot in the required way to complete installation.
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I tried all possible ways. Just a few minutes ago I went to CM1.4 recovery, used the update from update.zip, pressed Home+Back, rebooted back to recovery console, pressed Home+Back again, booted to CM4.2.10, punched the PIN code, checked the About Phone section and I am still with 1.22.x radio firmware.
This phone simply refuses to update the firmware in any known way.
So, my plan now is to un-root it back to the state I got it 2 months ago and return it to the operator and request upgrade of radio, since Donut with an old radio is basically useless. People simply do not understand half of what I say even if I speak slowly and quietly.
Cheers,
Oliwer
You have to press
Cam+power and it will show radio
....
In settings that radio has nothing to do with one installed...Do you know that the radio does?
It allows custom roms like cyan to be installed while keeping root access. The rom allows some tmo apps like account to still be used here in the states.
yes oliwer i get the same formatting cache message but nothing else happens. i tried in cyans recovery and amons recovery using only button shortcuts and not the trackball. i always named the radio update.zip, but still no luck. Im not sure if the 26i radio requires a certain version before it can upgrade, like maybe i have to upgrade to another radio before i can get to 26i? im not quite sure...ive run out of ideas on what to do. I dont have a warranty or anything on my g1. does the fact im using a donut rom on a cupcake radio have anything to do with it? if i had a cupcake rom and upgraded the radio to 26i from there would it work? i know these might sound like dumb ideas but im still relatively new to the scene and im running out of ideas as to why this is happening or why i cant solve it..
bump? anyone have a solution for us? or advice?
i just realized that i had android 1.1 with the 1.22.14.11 radio when i first got my phone, when t-mobile gave me the 1.5 update, i was still stuck on the same radio for some reason. After that I used the one click method to root and ive been on dwang donut rom ever since with the same dated radio...Ive tried using cyans recovery to flash and still no luck, no error, it says its updated but when i check the baseband or stock spl its still the same radio. I never went for a danger spl when i rooted because i was afraid to brick so i cant fastboot a radio update. I asked in another topic if it was possible to use the "flash_image" command in terminal to flash the radio but i dnt think itll work and i dont wanna risk it. If anyone has any advice or a possible solution please keep us updated.
Thank you!
Turn your phone off, hold the camera button down, and power on your phone.
What do you see?
each time before and after the flashing of the radio using cyans or amons recovery image id get the same rainbow screen saying
DREA100 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
RADIO-1.22.14.11
Serial0
so im still stuck on the Android 1.1 radio.
speedysilwady said:
yes oliwer i get the same formatting cache message but nothing else happens. i tried in cyans recovery and amons recovery using only button shortcuts and not the trackball. i always named the radio update.zip, but still no luck. Im not sure if the 26i radio requires a certain version before it can upgrade, like maybe i have to upgrade to another radio before i can get to 26i? im not quite sure...ive run out of ideas on what to do. I dont have a warranty or anything on my g1. does the fact im using a donut rom on a cupcake radio have anything to do with it? if i had a cupcake rom and upgraded the radio to 26i from there would it work? i know these might sound like dumb ideas but im still relatively new to the scene and im running out of ideas as to why this is happening or why i cant solve it..
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I do not know, really, why the radio refuses to upgrade. Since my last message I have read tons of posts on this issue and nearly ALL people can upgrade the radio firmware easily, just like the SPL. Somehow, I can upgrade the SPL to whatever I want, but not the radio. Very strange indeed and no luck so far.
Oliwer
speedysilwady said:
bump? anyone have a solution for us? or advice?
i just realized that i had android 1.1 with the 1.22.14.11 radio when i first got my phone, when t-mobile gave me the 1.5 update, i was still stuck on the same radio for some reason.
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Exactly the same in my case. Except they upgraded straight to 1.6. Before the upgrade I have 1.1 firmaware and quality of voice was perfect. After the upgrade things went south.
speedysilwady said:
After that I used the one click method to root and ive been on dwang donut rom ever since with the same dated radio...Ive tried using cyans recovery to flash and still no luck, no error, it says its updated but when i check the baseband or stock spl its still the same radio.
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Same thing with me.
speedysilwady said:
I never went for a danger spl when i rooted because i was afraid to brick so i cant fastboot a radio update.
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Well, I installed HardSPL and it worked despite the old radio. HardSPL offers FASTBOOT and I use it at times. This is safe, at least for me.
speedysilwady said:
I asked in another topic if it was possible to use the "flash_image" command in terminal to flash the radio but i dnt think itll work and i dont wanna risk it.
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Well, I did, but it does not work since flash_image updates partitions and G1 does not have radio partition. So, when you try to update the radio.img it tells you no radio partition. It is only possible for Roger G1 since it has radio partition unlike all other G1s and there you could upgrade the radio with flash_image.
speedysilwady said:
If anyone has any advice or a possible solution please keep us updated.
Thank you!
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Yeap! I just practised how to un-root the phone straight to 1.6 with the original SPL and recovery and I was able to restore my phone to the state before rooting and I plan to give it back to my operator under warranty and ask to get this radio fixed. I will do it next week. I will report if the authorized service will be able to upgrade the radio.
Oliwer

Rooting Official Magic Sense Update

Hi all,
I just updated my Magic (Hutchison/3, Australia) (32A) to the latest official HTC firmware with sense ui (I had cyanogen on there before but it was too buggy for my liking). However, it seems that this firmware has the "perfect" spl (HBOOT-1.76.0008, Radio 6.35.08.29). I was planning to root the phone without flashing a different rom but i of course need write access to /system. My plan was to boot amon-ra's recovery to do this, however when i try and boot it with "fastboot boot recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.6.2H.img", i get told "FAILED (remote: not allow)" (same deal for the hero version).
My idea is to download an old sappimg.nbh and start up the SPL on the phone, which displays some messages about looking for that file when it starts up. I assume this will flash an older SPL; then, i install the system part of the new ROM but not the radio/SPL somehow (is this possible?) then follow my initial plan for rooting the phone
However, from what i've read it seems messing with the SPL is pretty much the only way to brick the phone. Is what i suggest safe/will it work?
Thanks guys
greeklegend said:
Hi all,
I just updated my Magic (Hutchison/3, Australia) (32A) to the latest official HTC firmware with sense ui (I had cyanogen on there before but it was too buggy for my liking). However, it seems that this firmware has the "perfect" spl (HBOOT-1.76.0008, Radio 6.35.08.29). I was planning to root the phone without flashing a different rom but i of course need write access to /system. My plan was to boot amon-ra's recovery to do this, however when i try and boot it with "fastboot boot recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.6.2H.img", i get told "FAILED (remote: not allow)" (same deal for the hero version).
My idea is to download an old sappimg.nbh and start up the SPL on the phone, which displays some messages about looking for that file when it starts up. I assume this will flash an older SPL; then, i install the system part of the new ROM but not the radio/SPL somehow (is this possible?) then follow my initial plan for rooting the phone
However, from what i've read it seems messing with the SPL is pretty much the only way to brick the phone. Is what i suggest safe/will it work?
Thanks guys
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unfortunately wont work... it wont allow you to flash an older spl...probably will have to wait till an official 2.1 update comes out and hope that it might be rootable..
And THAT will teach me to look before I leap! I guess I can live with this update because its actually a HUGE improvement over what I was using before (radio reception is much better, text correction in the browser,sense is win in general and its much snappier) and I can still do usb tethering. But still, WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO US HTC!!!
EDIT:
I tried taking the rom image from the RUU and using fastboot to boot the boot.img from that but not even that works! I was thinking to do something like init=/system/bin/sh... I don't suppose theres another way to supply cmdline parameters to the kernel?

Issues with (re)flashing recovery

Hello all,
Here's what happened - I DL'd the app 'ROM Manager' from the Android Market, installed and allowed this app to be the recovery for my MT3g (non-Fender and non-headphone jack version).
Suffice it to say that the ROM Manager app jacked up my phone... none of their items worked for me. I uninstalled the ROM Manager and now when I tried to go to recovery mode (power + Home) I get nothing but stuck on the MT splash screen
My phone is rooted, originally ran the recovery-RA-dream-v1.6.2 recovery and am currently running a 2.1 ROM.
I have tried to redo the flashrec-1.1.3x and this does not work.
Where do I go from here? I'd like to be able to partition my new 8GB SD card and I can't even do that...
Thanks in advance.
If your phone is rooted, can't you just flash the previous working recovery via fastboot again?
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You should be able to put the recovery image on your sd card and use the flash_image command from the terminal right? thats what i did
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If your phone is rooted, can't you just flash the previous working recovery via fastboot again?
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Just to let you know, it is possible to root a mytouch without ever having installed an SPL that allows flashing though fastboot. I know from personal experience that the one-click flashrec method does this
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Just to let you know, it is possible to root a mytouch without ever having installed an SPL that allows flashing though fastboot. I know from personal experience that the one-click flashrec method does this
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I know, thats what I did as well.
But since then, till the date I changed to an engineering SPL, im pretty sure I have always done the subsequent changes to my recovery and spl using fastboot, even after starting with the 0010 SPL (which was at the time a problem SPL) and using flashrec to change the recovery before installing my first non stock rom, being cyanogen 4.x.x, still with the 0010 SPL.
I do know that it only became necessary for me to change my SPL when I wanted to try new radio ROMs (subsequently moved back, and took the chance to move to the 2010 engineering SPL) Before that I was actually too scared to change the SPL because of the brick threats.
I used the cursorsense rom thread instructions on how to change the radio and spl, and it worked great.
Maybe, so far, I have been lucky not to brick my phone. But I have always followed well documented threads on the dev section and so far so good, not excluding one or two times when I thought I had made a nice brick, but just persevered.
Fastboot is your friend, and so is XDA if you are nice to it and the good people who frequent it.
If you look through the threads, and in the development section, there are alot of areas where they give the commands necessary for a variety of actions, and peoples responses on whether it works.
I don't yet believe in the programs created to do everything for you, nothing against the devs, who are all great, just not quite happy enough with comments posted to try them out yet.
(I think my response was little longer than needed) ;-)
Thanks for the info guys...
Problem was I could not boot into fast boot - the recovery was not there.
What I ended up doing was unrooting then rerooting my phone, reloaded my ROM and went on from there...
That might have been the long way of doing things but it all worked out well.

stock hboot (0.85.0005) ignores S-OFF?

Hi all,
today i discovered something strange and i like to get your opinion on that:
I am not able to do s-off things in fastboot even if i have s-off!
Situation:
Phone: Desire Z
HBOOT: stock 0.85.0005
FW: 1.34..
Rooted: did root, supercid and s-off via gfree and verified via gfree_verify - even hboot showes up S-OFF
ROM: GingerVillain 1.5
Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.0.5
Problem:
First of all, i myself have no problem, but i started experimenting after a friend semi-bricked his desire z with same setup.
I did a nandroid backup and when i boot into hboot and do a 'fastboot flash recovery recovery.img' (with my nandroid recovery.img) i always get a remote: not allowed.
Now from my point of view this should only happen if I have a S-ON and should be impossible with S-OFF ?! Even using 'fastboot oem rebootRUU' does not change anything.
The thing that concerns me about that is: If something destroys both system and recovery, your pretty much screwed + bricked because hboot is not allowed to write to something other then cache and all of this basic stuff doesn't work:
- flash recovery with CW
- flash a complete zip
- flash an other hboot
- RUU
When I rooted my phone i have read everywhere that eng-hboots are not necessary any longer. But it appears that they are the only thing that helps and you have to install them as long as you have a working ROM.
Any thoughts on that issue / can you reproduce this / are fastboot actions logged anywhere?
You need a ENG. HBoot to use fastboot commands, doesn't matter if your s-off.
yeah, i came to the same conclusion..
is there any chance to flash a eng-hboot from a bricked 0.85.0005? i did some experimentation with a goldcard, but at least remote commands didn't change in behaviour..
I think being full-bricked when something goes wrong and not having an eng-hboot already installed is not an acceptable solution for most people here
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yeah, i came to the same conclusion..
is there any chance to flash a eng-hboot from a bricked 0.85.0005?
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maybe thru a modified PC10IMG.zip
I think being full-bricked when something goes wrong and not having an eng-hboot already installed is not an acceptable solution for most people here
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My thoughts exactly, its kind of a safety if you can't boot into android.
i'm not sure if a PC10IMG.zip will help at all.. my friend tried flashing both 1.34 and 1.72 RUU ROMs as PC10IMG and this didn't change anything.. in fact, the 1.72 even didn' install the new .00008 hbott, so i thing there is some heavy write protection in the hboot making it more or less useless..
what i can imagine that works is aa gokldcard with sppimg.zip, but i haven't yet found one for the desire z..
i have the feeling that this is a huge problem because with a short research i have found at least 3 threads of people having bricked their phone exactly this way and are now stuck.. some of the experts here might pay attention to this problem and in my opinion you should also consider removing the 'a eng-hboot is not needed, don't use it' advice from the rooting section of the wiki..
So what exactly is your problem.
You destroyed recovery and system?
If yes, and you used gfree to get Super-CID just install an PC10IMG that has a version higher or equal to the main version in you misc partition. And then do the whole downgrading, rooting, flashing recovery again.
If you are not Super-CID you might need a goldcard in addition if the CID of the phone is not supported by the PC10IMG that you whant to install.
have fun Guhl
It is almost impossible to brick this phone. The only possible way might be a failed copy of the eng-hboot and this is why the warning is and stays in the wiki.
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I thought so, too, but when flashing a newer original RUU using the PC10IMG.zip, the flash process runs okay, but after the restart nothing (still hangs in HTC screen, no new hboot) changes so apparently no changes are made..
So from my point of view the phone is more or less bricked.. i guess maybe some custome PC10IMG with an eng-hboot might change this, but i only found one for the G2 and wasn't able to find one for the DZ.. Thats why I thing that removing the 'UNNECESSARY' advice is justified (of course i don't want the warning advice that this can brick the phone to be removed)..

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