Cheap Sim for Mobile Internet in England? - Networking

Hi,
i'm travelling to London for a week.
Just checked how much it would cost with my current provider to make mobile internet connections, the roaming prices are horrendous..
Is there a way to get a cheap Sim with a mobile-internet package included, pre-paid?
Is it even possible for people from other coutries to get such cards in England?
Also, if there is a way, where do i get it and how much would it cost? Round about?
thx for any suggestions,
fooXeh

I know from o2
Will be ₤10 for sim + ₤7.50 for 500 mb of internet
sorry for lang

And do you think they will sell me the Simcard at a local o2 shop without any problems?
17,50 pound for a month seems reasonable.
Without any contracts?

Cannot find the option on the UK site of o2...
Anybody got details about that offer?

http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/Pay_and_Gothen click view details on the text and web dont know what they class as unlimited internet?

Other suggestion would be 3 PAYG. They may not post overseas but if you have a friend who can order you one and send it on, this may be the way to go. Their minimum top-up is £10 which gives you internet for 90 days per top up.

meknb said:
http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/Pay_and_Gothen click view details on the text and web dont know what they class as unlimited internet?
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500mb and about 11000 texts PM "that's going on me checking and i topped up end of last month"
It's a good deal when for general use as you can top up £15 get above then get the 50min bolt on for £7.99 which suffices me.

Thanks for the suggestions.
I think in London i won't have problems with fast 3G connections, right?
I'll just visit a shop in the city.
What do you call "Top Up"? I don't really get how that works.

fooXeh said:
Thanks for the suggestions.
I think in London i won't have problems with fast 3G connections, right?
I'll just visit a shop in the city.
What do you call "Top Up"? I don't really get how that works.
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Should be fine for 3G i live in a little town and pretty much always HSDPA.
Regard topup you can pretty much use any news agents and just ask for O2 topup or whichever carrier u choose, they just provide a recipet that has the no. on, when u get sim u'll get a card to which can be used to top up just saves gettin the reciept with a no. on "havent got around to using mine as i'll only loose it" lol
Good luck on your travels

Thanks, now everything seems to be ready to go.. but.. wait.
It's a bird... it's no planes.. its Icelandic Vulcanos..
Sucks to me be..

fooXeh said:
Thanks, now everything seems to be ready to go.. but.. wait.
It's a bird... it's no planes.. its Icelandic Vulcanos..
Sucks to me be..
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That's cool Not sure what to make of the later but i assure you no Icelandic Volcanoes in London, we do have planes & the birds are up to spec

hah, that really does suck
Just an update on tarrifs, on O2 you no longer need the £7.50 bolt on for browsing, they give you free browsing for the month (500MB) when you top up £10. Since they got exclusivity for the iPhone back in '07 they have EDGE coverage as well as HSDPA and GPRS.

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Will XDA Exec work with tmobile web n walk? tmobile say it wont..

Hi All,
I've just been on to tmobile about getting one of there unlimited internet access jobbies for £15/m.. all sounded great then I mentioned it was an o2 xda handset I was planning on using and they informed me that it wouldn't work.. I said well I'm sure I could just flash the mda rom onto it and it would run and they replied with "Voice and texts will work fine but the internet access will definately not work on a htc handset that that originated from o2" Then she said something about the internet settings are not compatible between the two phones..
Surely this is incorrect??
If anyone can shed any light on this please do! (or if you know of any better deals!)
mate it will work if you enable the tmob rom but i doubt it can work as a 02 for texts and calls & as tmob for web,
maybe your answer is flash rom and twin sim holder so you can flip between the two
as long as the Exec is (sim) unlocked, no problem. In fact, I'm using exactly that setup, with the current O2 ROM. You just need to change the GPRS/UMTS settings to
Access Point: general.t-mobile.uk
and iirc, username, password and domain all blank. If you have any problems, PM me or post here.
jaceuk said:
mate it will work if you enable the tmob rom but i doubt it can work as a 02 for texts and calls & as tmob for web,
maybe your answer is flash rom and twin sim holder so you can flip between the two
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Thanks for the reply! I think you misunderstood, I don't want o2 on my exec atall .. I just want tmobile with the tmobile web n walk.. they are trying to tell me that I cant which I find hard to believe because at the end of the day its a jasjar the same as the badged up tmobile version.. know what I mean?
xiasma said:
as long as the Exec is (sim) unlocked, no problem. In fact, I'm using exactly that setup, with the current O2 ROM. You just need to change the GPRS/UMTS settings to
Access Point: general.t-mobile.uk
and iirc, username, password and domain all blank. If you have any problems, PM me or post here.
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Hi there, thats just the confirmation I was looking for
I've not unlocked my exec because I was under the impression that o2's badged up jasjar arn't locked to begin with where as tmobiles mda's are.. I will take you up on the pm'ing when my sim card arrives if thats ok! I'm gunna order it now
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Hi there, thats just the confirmation I was looking for
I've not unlocked my exec because I was under the impression that o2's badged up jasjar arn't locked to begin with where as tmobiles mda's are.. I will take you up on the pm'ing when my sim card arrives if thats ok! I'm gunna order it now
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My Uni is o2 Exec too, now with T-Mob sim and working on Web'n'Walk fine.
I belive that if your o2 Exec was baught from o2 on line then it arrived unlocked (as mine did); if bought from high street o2, it came sim locked.
Mav
I've had three online (all o2 online business shop), all unlocked. Also, the early high street-bought units were, iirc, unlocked too.
Hmm .. Uh Oh.. Is there anyway to check? I don't have another sim card I can try in it.. Mine was high street bought but it was one of the early ones (or so I believe.. Jan 2006).
Ignore that last post, just done some searching and spotted the unlock tool created by buzz and the team.. great work guys
Is T-Mobile really offering unlimited internet for the total sum of £15 per month? I've had a look on their website and I can't find this offer! Could someone post the link for this offer, sounds too good to be true!
I'm also quite sure I could have been totally oblivious to this offer, so apologies for asking a very obvious question!
Hi there! this offer isn't on there site. I called them and asked what they could do for me ..
sim card only
monthly contract rather than yearly (only tied to 1month each time)
unlimited data (fair use of 3gb/month)
50mins anytime
not bad eh!
davidfeltham said:
Is T-Mobile really offering unlimited internet for the total sum of £15 per month? I've had a look on their website and I can't find this offer! Could someone post the link for this offer, sounds too good to be true!
I'm also quite sure I could have been totally oblivious to this offer, so apologies for asking a very obvious question!
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I have an o2 xda exec which I bought on Ebay slightly second hand and I am using it on tmobile with a prepay tarrif. All I needed to do was put in the correct settings which I got from here
http://www.manuals.t-mobile.co.uk/start.asp?manual=1217
Just go to the GPRS 3g topic in the 'choose subject box' and they take you through it step by step.
On the prepay tarrif, I get charged a pound for any day when I connect, but there is supposedly no limit during that day. It works great, but maybe I'd be better off at a £15 month tarrif if that's available.
By the way, can I just let people know of this link to google search which reformats all pages for the PDA. It makes a very useful portal:
www.google.com/xhtml
If you don't want to search, but want the pages reformatted for your pda try this one which also works pretty well.
www.google.com/gwt/n?q=
The above url will present you with a box to enter the url you want to visit. After that, all pages will be formatted without frames and made suitable for your screen.
vbJoe said:
Hi there! this offer isn't on there site. I called them and asked what they could do for me ..
sim card only
monthly contract rather than yearly (only tied to 1month each time)
unlimited data (fair use of 3gb/month)
50mins anytime
not bad eh!
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Thanks for your reply! Sounds like a great deal! What number did you ring, and any special tricks for getting them to offer you that deal?
Cheers,
No tricks to get it matey just call them on the number on the website. Cant remember what the number is now and the paper I wrote it on is on my desk in the office. Just ask for the following:
Sim Only, Web and walk unlimited internet tarrif thingy. Make sure they dont try and tie you to a 12 month contract as this is a sim only deal with NO PHONE and thats why its so cheap. Best thing about the deal is that its month to month.. so if you decide you don't want it anymore or they change the terms and conditions you can cancel with no 12 month contract to pay off
evilv said:
I have an o2 xda exec which I bought on Ebay slightly second hand and I am using it on tmobile with a prepay tarrif. All I needed to do was put in the correct settings which I got from here
http://www.manuals.t-mobile.co.uk/start.asp?manual=1217
Just go to the GPRS 3g topic in the 'choose subject box' and they take you through it step by step.
On the prepay tarrif, I get charged a pound for any day when I connect, but there is supposedly no limit during that day. It works great, but maybe I'd be better off at a £15 month tarrif if that's available.
By the way, can I just let people know of this link to google search which reformats all pages for the PDA. It makes a very useful portal:
www.google.com/xhtml
If you don't want to search, but want the pages reformatted for your pda try this one which also works pretty well.
www.google.com/gwt/n?q=
The above url will present you with a box to enter the url you want to visit. After that, all pages will be formatted without frames and made suitable for your screen.
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Cheers for the info evilv! that will come in handy.. especially the google web reform jobby!
Just to add to this lot, I tried a T Mobile PAYG sim in my O2 XDA-Exec and it works fine connecting to the net with full UMTS speed, max cost per day is £1 capped according to the chaps card we were messing with.
I have also used a contract T Mobile card in the device and simply works - No Sim Lock on the O2 XDA-Exec, so no messing around put the card in, configure the access names etc and away you go - Mike
Cheers mike, can't to get the tmobile simcard now!.. I'll actually have a use for my universal atlast!
o2 beats even that: unlimited data £10/month bolt on for pay monthly
not sure of the fair use limit. see my reply in thread 'best internet plan' or something like that for more details
r3bel said:
o2 beats even that: unlimited data £10/month bolt on for pay monthly
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That's new!
Only thing is, it'd be more expensive than WnW.
I'm on the £15 a month tariff too - it's actually £7.50 a month, minimum term of a month (not a year!) for 50 minutes each month, with the £7.50 unlimited data WnW add-on.
I use my data all the time and have never been pulled - Push Email, constant RSS feed updating, decent amount of pics on downloads, radio streaming, msn messenging, no limits for me.
you just need to request the sim only 30 day contract (can cancel anytime just give 30 day notice) which is £7.50 a month, then simply ass web n walk £7.50 a month, job done! completley normal tarriff no scams or deals

O2 or T-mobile

Apologies, I was not sure where to post this.
I am and have been on o2 for years, however the data tariffs are pretty much in the stone age for pricing, I have seen T-mobiles web n talk deals and they look good. Can anyone advise if I take the plunge and let my o2 contract expire (this month) will I be happy with t-mobile?
I am in the UK for your information, cheers.
Oh and why the different web n talk options, only one allowing VOIP, what is restricting it?
Same situation here, HSDPA access restricted to business only, and they charge ALOT for any downloading at all!!
T-mob does look good however i would only require a SIM only tarriff.....from what ive seen on the site they only offer the good web-n-walk tarrifs with a handset bundled in (for a price obviously)
mrvanx said:
Same situation here, HSDPA access restricted to business only, and they charge ALOT for any downloading at all!!
T-mob does look good however i would only require a SIM only tarriff.....from what ive seen on the site they only offer the good web-n-walk tarrifs with a handset bundled in (for a price obviously)
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O2 used to be great when I enjoyed free access for a year, since then they've stayed at £2.35 per MB. Not only that but as an online customer no bundles supported (still no where near t-mobiles pricing).
T-Mobile have been pretty good, I have a flext 30+ Web and Walk standard, works out at around £35 per month.
Its not actually unlimited internet I think it works out to something around 1gb per month but with the amount you download with normal active sync e-mail and web browsing I havent hit it yet so it (and the fair use policy just says if you exceed 1gb per month they will ask you to cut down a bit, with more restrictions each time you break the 1Gb limit) Basically its not designed for peer to peer, streaming or skype.
The pro version isnt that much more expensive though.
chrisjasper said:
T-Mobile have been pretty good, I have a flext 30+ Web and Walk standard, works out at around £35 per month.
Its not actually unlimited internet I think it works out to something around 1gb per month but with the amount you download with normal active sync e-mail and web browsing I havent hit it yet so it (and the fair use policy just says if you exceed 1gb per month they will ask you to cut down a bit, with more restrictions each time you break the 1Gb limit) Basically its not designed for peer to peer, streaming or skype.
The pro version isnt that much more expensive though.
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Ah so more expensive packages are just cause more data will be used not that on the others it wont work?
thesoulpoet said:
Ah so more expensive packages are just cause more data will be used not that on the others it wont work?
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Yes, the pro web+walk packages go up to 10Gb per month.
chrisjasper said:
Yes, the pro web+walk packages go up to 10Gb per month.
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Is it possible to migrate across to T-Mobile web-n-walk without having to buy a handset?
Not entirely sure about that one, I've been with t-mob since they were one2one.
You can pac code your number across so most likely you could go to W+W without buying a handset....
strange t-mobile
whats strange about t-mobile uk is that, although they say 1gb limit, ive been using my w&w plan since april 06 and have almost consistently exceeded the limits, in the last few months according to my data monitor on the nokia 6680 ive exceeded 10 gigs a month. One of the call centers isnt too far from my town and the area i live in has very few serious w&w users or so i believe.. ive got good HSPDA reception in my area and plan to do some testing with my phones.. will post results..
I moved from O2 to T-Mobile for the exact same reason... I simply couldn't justify the rip-off data charges!
Since moving to T-Mobile I can honestly say I don't regret making the move... their service is as good or better than O2 and having web n walk is absolute bliss
I'm on the basic web n walk package, but as far as I know there is nothing preventing you using your mobile as a modem for a laptop and I'm sure I've read posts from other users saying you can still make internet calls (skype) on the basic package??? - the only thing the saleman told me is they do monitor activities and if they detect another IP address (from a computer I would guess) or any voice/video streaming, there's a chance I could be billed for it
stewcp said:
I moved from O2 to T-Mobile for the exact same reason... I simply couldn't justify the rip-off data charges!
Since moving to T-Mobile I can honestly say I don't regret making the move... their service is as good or better than O2 and having web n walk is absolute bliss
I'm on the basic web n walk package, but as far as I know there is nothing preventing you using your mobile as a modem for a laptop and I'm sure I've read posts from other users saying you can still make internet calls (skype) on the basic package??? - the only thing the saleman told me is they do monitor activities and if they detect another IP address (from a computer I would guess) or any voice/video streaming, there's a chance I could be billed for it
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I might give them a call and see what they reckon (im on a monthly rolling contract with O2 at the mo)
Whats the basic WnW package got in terms of texts and minutes.....a basic run down of the details would be very helpfull dude
Roaming charges?
I've been thinking to switch to WnW but have been unable to fing the roaming data costs. That is... i use it to sync to exchange while abroad (mostly europe).
Can't find the costs on the t-mob site
t-mobile DATA costs
3G (where available) £7.50 per Mb
This is the data charge anywhere outside the UK. I wen't to India sent two emails with picture attachments. Got bill, ended up sending 4mb which came to about 30 quid. It's a shame they don't have a better deal for people on Web n walk. BTW, i am on web n walk plus, the middle package, £12.50 a month. 3 gb limit and when connected to my laptop avg DL speed is 130.0kbs
Link for roming costs anyway, http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/personal/our-services/going-abroad/details-by-country.do
mrvanx said:
Is it possible to migrate across to T-Mobile web-n-walk without having to buy a handset?
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I bought a Universal on Ebay that had been on O2 and I stuck in a tmobile pay as you go sim card. Once I'd put in the server details (for which there is a help page on the tmobile site) it works great. I don't do a lot of data normally, but when I do, I get charged a flat rate of £1 for that day. I used it abroad to get email in Switzerland and France. It worked right off the plane with no fiddling at all.
evilv said:
I bought a Universal on Ebay that had been on O2 and I stuck in a tmobile pay as you go sim card. Once I'd put in the server details (for which there is a help page on the tmobile site) it works great. I don't do a lot of data normally, but when I do, I get charged a flat rate of £1 for that day. I used it abroad to get email in Switzerland and France. It worked right off the plane with no fiddling at all.
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I did the same for an O2 XDA IIs - originally I just used it as a phone (on O2 pay-as-you-go) and PDA, but recently needed Web access. Popped into a mobile phone shop, pick up a brochure of tarrifs saw the O2 one, picked myself up off the floor and bought a T-Mobile pay-as-you-go SIM. T-Mobile very helpful in setting up the web access over the phone (they called me back on a different mobile)
mrvanx said:
Is it possible to migrate across to T-Mobile web-n-walk without having to buy a handset?
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If you can get sim only then you can get web and walk as i have been using since last 11 months. I only got a sim Flex20 and whenever like i subscribe to web&walk through internet account as well opt out by telling 1 month notice.... or you can use pay as you go sim card... £1 a day and unlimited internet even VOIP.... i often use it for skype and got excellent result, i taked hours and never got problem... cheers

T-Mobile pricing mistake

I've just been to my local T-Mobile UK shop to have a look at the Ameo before buying it. I was asking about the prices and the assistant (I think he must have been the manager) showed me the printed price list for the various tariffs. The one that stuck out was Flext 35+ (I think - it was £47.50 pm) with the cost of the handset at £119. It was completely at odds with the prices on the other plans - ie the ones costing more per month were much more expensive. The guy said it was probably a typo but he would put it through as that and override it if necessary. It was and it should have been £309. As you can imagine I was well pleased and I bought it on the spot!
I won't say which T-Mobile shop as I don't want to get him into trouble but if you are interested I think it would be worth going down to your local shop and see what they could do...
thats the same deal i got it for online. they obviously made a mistake cos they changed it online two days later!
still, I'm not complaining!
God damn it, I could have saved myself £200!!! Well done for baggin the bargin though!
I got mine from T-mobile online, I paid £240 for the phone but im only paying £37.50 for the FlexT35 + web and walk for the entire life of the contract (min 18 months)
Yeah i got mine cheep too on same deal had to override system when putting it thru and i just kept my moth shut was a bargain now i just want WM6....
spzero said:
Yeah i got mine cheep too on same deal had to override system when putting it thru and i just kept my moth shut was a bargain now i just want WM6....
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I dont understand why you guys think this is such a good deal, even though I paid more for my phone (£240) over the 18 month minimum contract, I am paying less @ 37.50 per month. My deal is still available direct from the T-mobile website !!
SITS said:
I've just been to my local T-Mobile UK shop to have a look at the Ameo before buying it. I was asking about the prices and the assistant (I think he must have been the manager) showed me the printed price list for the various tariffs. The one that stuck out was Flext 35+ (I think - it was £47.50 pm) with the cost of the handset at £119. It was completely at odds with the prices on the other plans - ie the ones costing more per month were much more expensive. The guy said it was probably a typo but he would put it through as that and override it if necessary. It was and it should have been £309. As you can imagine I was well pleased and I bought it on the spot!
I won't say which T-Mobile shop as I don't want to get him into trouble but if you are interested I think it would be worth going down to your local shop and see what they could do...
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I have been into T-mobile today and this is definitly still avalible and is a pricing mistake picking mine up tommorow £119 for the handset flex35 + £7.50 web and walk £42.50 should be £219 or more for the handset
SITS said:
I've just been to my local T-Mobile UK shop to have a look at the Ameo before buying it. I was asking about the prices and the assistant (I think he must have been the manager) showed me the printed price list for the various tariffs. The one that stuck out was Flext 35+ (I think - it was £47.50 pm) with the cost of the handset at £119. It was completely at odds with the prices on the other plans - ie the ones costing more per month were much more expensive. The guy said it was probably a typo but he would put it through as that and override it if necessary. It was and it should have been £309. As you can imagine I was well pleased and I bought it on the spot!
I won't say which T-Mobile shop as I don't want to get him into trouble but if you are interested I think it would be worth going down to your local shop and see what they could do...
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Hi
have a look at this !!!!
T-Mobile Zakelijk 1 Jaar 2 Jaar
Optimaal 2x € 299.00 € 25.00
(www.smartphonestunts.nl)
This is a dutch website (at which I bought my universal)
This is with a so-called business plan, which is 2x dataplan. at 12,50 each per month.
so 12months x12,50 x 2 x 2years + 25 phone = 625,- euro for a brand new Athena
and with a nice spread "payment" plan.
nice huh. ?
greetings,
Wout
ps. who can not afford 25euro per month ?
bond007 said:
I have been into T-mobile today and this is definitly still avalible and is a pricing mistake picking mine up tommorow £119 for the handset flex35 + £7.50 web and walk £42.50 should be £219 or more for the handset
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is it a 12 month or 18 month contract?
wu5262 said:
is it a 12 month or 18 month contract?
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18 but you can reduce the tariff after 6 months
ice_coffee said:
I dont understand why you guys think this is such a good deal, even though I paid more for my phone (£240) over the 18 month minimum contract, I am paying less @ 37.50 per month. My deal is still available direct from the T-mobile website !!
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To be honest there's very little in it. you save £5 a month over 18 months. you save £90 on the contract, i saved £120 on the purchase price. By my crappy maths, that means I still save £30 less over all than you. but then, I didn't have £240 to spend on the phone so I am happy. and I certainly couldn't afford the £700-750 that places are charging for the HTC branded one. So for me, this was a great deal.
I treat contracts like H.P. I cant get credit, but i can get phone contracts, so i simply use them to spread the cost.
plus if I remember right, you dont get HSDPA on web and walk standard. unless you find a gormless t-mobile drone to add it for you without upping you to pro which is what came with this price mistake.
If this thing had a dvd drive and could rip dvd's, my PC would be in the freeads quicker than you could say 'HTC'!
In the end, for me it was a great deal cos otherwise i wouldn't have been able to get the thing. maybe you earn more than I do and have more disposable income and can pay more for the initial payment, and so it doesn't strike you as such an amazing a good deal. But to me and the others who may not have been able to afford one without this screw up on the initial price, its f'ing superb!!
err... i got the 119 price as well but had to pay a higher rate for the web n walk pro so that i could use the phone as a modem. thd said they could tell the difference- was i duped???
i guess they could tell if i was doing voip due to port number and i do get a higher d/l limit
You werent "duped" if they sold the service for the use you stated.
Of course that doesnt mean a lots of people dont use it as a modem anyway without telling T-Mobile, but that is T-Mobile getting 'duped' really.
It sucks that T-Mobile price this way, but considering the data plans from everybody else, count yourself lucky.
I just wish T-Mob had usable signal and working voice. My wife now refuses to phone me on this number because of the 95% failure rate of calls.
Pyrofer said:
You werent "duped" if they sold the service for the use you stated.
Of course that doesnt mean a lots of people dont use it as a modem anyway without telling T-Mobile, but that is T-Mobile getting 'duped' really.
It sucks that T-Mobile price this way, but considering the data plans from everybody else, count yourself lucky.
I just wish T-Mob had usable signal and working voice. My wife now refuses to phone me on this number because of the 95% failure rate of calls.
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are you sure about that? I recently change from Vodafone to T-mobile, and two thing i am sure is T-mobile phone signal is much better then Vodafone (at least in London), and their internet works really well, you will never want to use Athena with Vodafone.....!
Vodafone must REALLY suck then, because I normally get 1 or maybe 2 bars signal on UMTS, with frequent dropping to GPRS when out and about. (Central London).
When i visit family outside of London I am forced onto GPRS only and sometimes lose signal completely.
The quality of the internet isnt really an issue, it works. Its quite good for what you pay, but the voice service on T-Mobile is terrible.
I had people complaining my phone was never on, when it always is. So I did an experiment, I had my phone on, with full signal. The person STOOD NEXT TO ME tried to call me on speakerphone, and we both heard a failed call claiming my phone was not available.
Often the call completes, but nobody can hear anything or only one-way voice or it just cuts off for no reason.
Outgoing calls often fail for no reason, just drop after dialing as if there is no network when there is.
I dont consider this to be good by any stretch of imagination, if your telling me Vodafone is worse, we are all in trouble. At least Orange are joinging the "all you can eat" data bandwagon soon! Ill be swapping back to them as soon as my T-Mob contract is nearly up.
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Vodafone must REALLY suck then, because I normally get 1 or maybe 2 bars signal on UMTS, with frequent dropping to GPRS when out and about. (Central London).
When i visit family outside of London I am forced onto GPRS only and sometimes lose signal completely.
The quality of the internet isnt really an issue, it works. Its quite good for what you pay, but the voice service on T-Mobile is terrible.
I had people complaining my phone was never on, when it always is. So I did an experiment, I had my phone on, with full signal. The person STOOD NEXT TO ME tried to call me on speakerphone, and we both heard a failed call claiming my phone was not available.
Often the call completes, but nobody can hear anything or only one-way voice or it just cuts off for no reason.
Outgoing calls often fail for no reason, just drop after dialing as if there is no network when there is.
I dont consider this to be good by any stretch of imagination, if your telling me Vodafone is worse, we are all in trouble. At least Orange are joinging the "all you can eat" data bandwagon soon! Ill be swapping back to them as soon as my T-Mob contract is nearly up.
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btw, you haven't activate the always on Internet tweak right? i think your experience is very strange and not normal, i have lots of T-mobile friends, and they don't report such an issue, is it possible by your setting?
And also, i don't use GPRS at all, i force my device to only connect to 3G network, and i still get good signal all the time.
It is a good deal i got the web and walk + tariff so i can use my ameo as a modem at no extra cost with unlimited usage so if i wana do some serious browsing or on line gaming on my laptop whilst on way to work this price plan is great i was with o2 for about 7 years previous i thought they were great and always had a nice new xda device to try after my contract expired but t mobile is so much better i use my athena way more than any other because of the unlimited internet and i also get text reminders to let me know how many inclusive flext minutes/texts i have at least once a week im as happy as pie with my tarrif and price of phone as i managed to sell a crap old Nokia N80 on ebay to cover the cost so i didnt even feel the purchase,,
This just shows how all things are subjective... spzero likes the flext reminder messages, they just really annoy me and are now disabled.
I think O2 were much better than TMob, i would have stayed with them if it wasnt for the flat rate data from web&walk.
I have lots of friends on TMob too and they say its crap for them too. I have tried different phones and same problems so its not settings. There is no setting to make incoming calls fail before they get to my phone! I had a TMob contract many years back and it was total rubbish then. I thought by now it would have been better, but I was wrong.
If I force UMTS only, i would lose all signal often. Maybe it works fine where you live, but for me it doesnt.
They just dont have the coverage. If they did there would be no need for a postcode checker on the site to make sure they cover your area. All other networks just assume everywhere is covered except TMob.
I have TMob only because of Web&Walk. When other networks get better data plans ill move, preferably to O2, but maybe to Orange.
My main hate for TMob is the customer (dis)service. I wont list the whole story here, but lets just say they have treated me like crap on many occations.
Pyrofer said:
... When other networks get better data plans ill move, preferably to O2, but maybe to Orange. ...
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I personally found O2 customer service somewhere beneath awful. Anyway, that aside, as I understand it O2 will be announcing new and more competitive data plans shortly.
I live in London, and have never had a problem with T-mobiles service and coverage.
The customer service is another matter....
At least their latest cockup benefits me instead of them, the £325 I paid upfront via credit card for the Ameo has since been credited to my account, and two months later, after 2 bills, I am still around £260 in credit.
Here's hoping they won't spot their error...

Not yet available on Orange UK

I've just tried Orange UK and been told it's not yet available and to try again this aftenoon. If anyone else is succesful with Orange please post on here as soon as you are able to order a Touch HD.
thanks for, the heads up. you have saved me a phone call. My contract is up and i am just waiting for this to come in stock
i called 10 mins ago and got told the same thing
I called last week, and the guy said they wont appear on the system till 2pm
looks like its a late lunch
i'll call about 1:30 and try my luck!
please let me know what deals they offer you (retention or not)
I take it everyone who is ordering their Touch HD through Orange, aren't bothered about using the data services?
I already have an ancient unlimited data package for £3 plus vat, so i'm ok with orange
CPhoenix said:
I take it everyone who is ordering their Touch HD through Orange, aren't bothered about using the data services?
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Yes, what do i need to know?
m.r.davies said:
Yes, what do i need to know?
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are you a long standing customer? i'd probably want to talk to someone other than the droid that will answer the initial call. then say that the package is too inflexible.
i'm wanting more data this time myself, i'm a long standing customer and they helpped me out last time.
CPhoenix said:
I take it everyone who is ordering their Touch HD through Orange, aren't bothered about using the data services?
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250m for £6 and a free phone. Or £500 for the phone, another mobile provider and cheaper data.
No i'm not too worried plus i have heard that there might be a better data option in the wings. Also i have the 250 bundle and never get near it.
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are you a long standing customer? i'd probably want to talk to someone other than the droid that will answer the initial call. then say that the package is too inflexible.
i'm wanting more data this time myself, i'm a long standing customer and they helpped me out last time.
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Yes, 12 years on contract
So what do i need to do? go through retentions dept, and then say the data package is not flexible? and speak to someone else?
oh btw, unlimited data is 500mb not 250mb
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...Also i have the 250 bundle and never get near it.
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yeah but you havent had a phone that you can really use on the t'internet. The browser/screen has always been too pants to use it effectively.
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yeah but you havent had a phone that you can really use on the t'internet. The browser/screen has always been too pants to use it effectively.
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What are you suggesting ?
Forgive me, I had heard that the 250mb data allowance only came into play if you signed up for a 24month contact (which seemed completely bonkers compared to other providers).
I'm personally tempted by expansys' offer of the 12month T-Mob contract @ £35p/m inc 1GB w&w, for £170ish... but now I'm not so sure. If I can get a similar contract with Orange, I'd happily go with them.
On mobiles.co.uk they have 1200 mins unlim txts on O2 for £32.50 after cashback for 18 months.
If you go through quidco.co.uk you can get £40 extra cashback too, and the Touch HD handset is free.
I believe with O2 you can have the unlimited web bolt on for free, or you might need to swap the unlim' txts for unlim' web.
Anyone have experience of O2 data usage policy?
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What are you suggesting ?
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stuff like bbc iplayer. if you were on the train, stuff like that would be a great thing to have on your phone but it'll rip through your 250meg in no time on a 3G/HSDPA.
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On mobiles.co.uk they have 1200 mins unlim txts on O2 for £32.50 after cashback for 18 months.
If you go through quidco.co.uk you can get £40 extra cashback too, and the Touch HD handset is free.
I believe with O2 you can have the unlimited web bolt on for free, or you might need to swap the unlim' txts for unlim' web.
Anyone have experience of O2 data usage policy?
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Not quite sure how you got that on the 02 1200 package (or more likely my basic maths is failing me).
I thought it was £38.88 (£45p/m * 18mnts - £110cashback / 18month)
even with Quidco it only brings it down to £36.66 a month.
Plus with the absence of any definite literature confirming that you can swap your unlimited bolt-on, seems a bit of risk considering the price and length of the contract.
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stuff like bbc iplayer. if you were on the train, stuff like that would be a great thing to have on your phone but it'll rip through your 250meg in no time on a 3G/HSDPA.
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After spending 2 days solid on trains trying to use my TytnII for internet using GPRS (on T-Mobile), I'd suggest people think twice before buying a data package for this purpose. I was barely able to hold connections for more than a few minutes making browsing completely unusable - let alone using HSDPA for streaming (which isn't allowed under 02, Orange & T-Mobile's basic data tarrifs anyway).
That said, I haven't looked into using iPlayer to cache your TV content to take with you.... Is this possible?
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stuff like bbc iplayer. if you were on the train, stuff like that would be a great thing to have on your phone but it'll rip through your 250meg in no time on a 3G/HSDPA.
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sorry, i meant what are you suggesting as an alternative to orange?
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I already have an ancient unlimited data package for £3 plus vat, so i'm ok with orange
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DO you have a 3g phone at present?
I was on one of those unlimited data tariffs until I upgraded to a 3g phone were they insisted on removing it.
Now I am on the 500MB one
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On mobiles.co.uk they have 1200 mins unlim txts on O2 for £32.50 after cashback for 18 months.
If you go through quidco.co.uk you can get £40 extra cashback too, and the Touch HD handset is free.
I believe with O2 you can have the unlimited web bolt on for free, or you might need to swap the unlim' txts for unlim' web.
Anyone have experience of O2 data usage policy?
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Orange have the exclusive of this handset but for how long>>>
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I've just tried Orange UK and been told it's not yet available and to try again this aftenoon. If anyone else is succesful with Orange please post on here as soon as you are able to order a Touch HD.
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Hello..Long time reader..1st post n all
Just spoke to 'Lindsey' at Orange who did not know what the Touch HD was. She kept on yapping about the Diamond.
She went and spoke to her manager who insisted there were no new HTC phones scheduled to be released this month:|
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sorry, i meant what are you suggesting as an alternative to orange?
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'friad i dont have one. i've been with orange for quite a few years now and i've always managed to wangle something more from them each year. this year i am supposed to get a free handset (whichever one i choose). i am suspecting when the HD is available the droid at the end of the phone will want to charge me because he wont know i've been told this. so i'll have to kick up a fuss.

[UK Providers] Going to the UK, which Pay To Go provider to choose?

I might be moving (not 100% sure yet) to London in the future, coming from the Netherlans.
I'm looking for some UK users that could advise me or give me a bit of a direction as to which Mobile Provider to choose.
What I am not looking for:
Monthly paying/contract. I also have my Dutch contract which is going to last for more than a year from now. So I'm not planning on paying double contracts.
What I am looking for:
Pay As You Go. Just put money on the SIM card and whenever I call or text, the money gets taken off.
If possible within managable prices, mobile internet. I just don't want to pay too much for this as my Dutch contract is already running and taking my money.
So, what is a mobile provider that you advise? I've looked at the following:
- Virgin Mobile (partner has television and internet at Virgin Media, as I read, maybe then you can get extra's?)
- T-Mobile
- Vodafone
Thanks.
£18 with Three, 300 mins, 3000 texts, 1000GB internet.
Speeds are excellent as well (dependent on your phone and area).
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£18 with Three, 300 mins, 3000 texts, 1000GB internet.
Speeds are excellent as well (dependent on your phone and area).
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I'm having a look at Three. I read 150MB with every Top Up. So whenever I put money on it, I get 150MB added for internet. No extra charges?
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I'm having a look at Three. I read 150MB with every Top Up. So whenever I put money on it, I get 150MB added for internet. No extra charges?
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Yeah, but if you get the 1000GB (All You Can Eat) package it doesn't really compare much
Go for giffgaff!
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Go for giffgaff!
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If £5 cost difference really means that much to you...
Problem with GiffGaff is they are on the O2 network so not much use beyond calls/texts (poor 3G coverage/speeds/latency).
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Yeah, but if you get the 1000GB (All You Can Eat) package it doesn't really compare much
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Just lasts 30 days though and then you'd need to top up again.
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Just lasts 30 days though and then you'd need to top up again.
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You expect to get the All You Can Eat add-on forever?
If you want credit to last beyond 30 days don't buy a package, but after the 150MB it's 11p per MB.

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