Hi guys
I was just wondering for those x10 mini users.
How's the camera? is there zoom? can you get a touch qwerty keyboard on the mini?
cuz i was planning to sell my x10 and get a mini/mini pro. I dont really like the slide out keyboard on the pro so i was just wondering if it was possible to get HTC keyboard on there.
thx!
on this sizw of phone silde or on screen qwerty both killing i think
Hi
Yes you can ad a qwerty keyboard and it works great, write X10 mini qwerty in you tube and you'll going to see what it give
I've got mine since 3 weeks and definitively love it. The camera makes some good pictures, but there's no zoom just autofocus.
Photo by x10 mini
dl.dropbox.com/u/2410714/DSC00003.jpg (add http )
Thanks for all the stuff.
So would you guys recommend me getting an x10 mini pro or a mini?
Take a look here to see picture quality of X10 mini
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=196313
iphonepimp said:
Thanks for all the stuff.
So would you guys recommend me getting an x10 mini pro or a mini?
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I think that nobody can choose instead of you. It depends the way you're gonna use it. My advice : if you can go in a shop and try X10 mini to make an opinion and if you always don't know which one choose, wait until the X10 mini pro is available, like that you could compare the 2 models.
iphonepimp said:
Thanks for all the stuff.
So would you guys recommend me getting an x10 mini pro or a mini?
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Actually, if all you need is a better form factor, than wait for X8.
With all the pro's of mini, its size is lovely, but screen res is horrible.
X8 has 480x320 screen, and that is the minimum for Android experience, most programs would require that.
I have the HTC Desire and X10 mini and my previous one was HTC Hero.
I chose mini as Desire is simply too big and fragile, mini you can take anywhere with you.
My only wish is that it had a 480x320 screen res at least, size is perfect.
Hello
First sorry if this is in the wrong forum, I'm new to smartphones and Android and have a bit of a dilema!
I have an Xperia X10i and am supposed to be exchanging it for a HTC Desire next week, for reasons I will go into, but my big question first is am I making the right choice.
I got out my X10 yesterday after another delay with getting the HTC and after finding some UI changes and other apps on these awesome forums, I am starting to like the X10 more.
Sure the battery lasts about 9 hours but I'm looking into fixes, other things I didn't enjoy, like the UI I have changed with the awesome ADW Launcher.
Now the main reason I wanted to change the phone was, and this is going to sound really childish and stupid, but was for multitouch, well that and the newer version of android, which I think the X10 will get eventually, however for some reason I feel I need multitouch?
When getting a smartphone I looked forward to playing all my old Snes Roms etc on the way to work on the train, which is nigh on impossible to do properly without multitouch.
I installed the Wiimotion? app to use a Wii mote on my X10 which is awesome but won't help when I'm on the train.
Now I know that's a bit of a frivilous reason but I dunno, seeing all my work colleague pinch and zoom and playing Monkey Island and Conta got me jealous.
I haven't used a Desire but had a quick go of a mates Legend and wasn't blown away or anything. I actually think I prefer the look/style of my X10, but I still like the Desire, I know the camera's better on the X10 but that's pretty much it isn't it?
So there is my question really, should I change my X10 for a Desire, mainly for the updated Android and Multitouch!
I've posted this in X10 and Desire forums, again sorry if thats a no-no.
If you feel that you need multitouch than you should get a device that supports it. The X10 doesn't support multitouch either in software or in hardware.
Android will be updated on the X10 soon, either by SE themselves or the community so that is not a huge issue.
Just a heads up the Desire has the same multitouch problem as the nexus one look it up on youtube if you dont know what i am talking about. hope that helps
Just seen that vid thanks for the heads up
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How about the Samsung Galaxy S? I would pick that over the Desire.
Wow, the multitouch on the N1 is horrendous. :O
I assumed it'd be atleast good considering that it's a google flagship phone.
Cinner said:
How about the Samsung Galaxy S? I would pick that over the Desire.
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Just checked, and I don't think it's available on TMobile, shame it looks a good phone. Thanks anyway
I have an X10 but i think the Desire edges it (for me anyways).
The reason being it's HTC and they have stronger support both from HTC themselves and from the Devs on here on XDA. They have also established themselves as the main player for android devices, and have more experience.
I accepted the intial shortcomings of the X10, with knowledge that the updates would be coming in a timely fashion. This includes both android and performance.
They have not and i'm not just talking about OS.
Basic Telephony - Call Volume
Input- entries not recognised by the digitizer, both keyboard and mediascape.
Functionality -Playlist creation
Sense is in it's 2nd revison and is very stable and I expect to see 2.2 and future versions on that device one way or another. I can't say that with same amount of confidence for the X10.
SE have made a very decent effort with the X10, but their support for the device will be it's downfall.
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Dear Rakber,
If I were you, I would definately go for the desire. My teacher has got a desire and Ive got the X10i but I was blown away when I saw how good the desire is.
Take your chance before its too late!!
regards,
hiraj_panosian
X10 support the multitouch Hardware.... but it is limited by the OS 1.6...
With the update in 2.1, multitouch will be a reality on X10 !!!
OS 1.6 limite the number of colors dispayed (65K on 1.6, X10 can display 16M)
Video record in 720p will be possible on 2.1 too.
With same OS version (2.1) X10 has more advantage than Desire.. beautifull screen, camera (APN) and Video are Likely an Real APN SONY 8.1Mo...perfect colors, defeniton... The camera of Desire is Medium, Poor..
THe X10 is better on 3D, sound of MP3 is perfect !! great bass !
Advantage of Desire, the update is more frequent, and quickly...
As for me, My cousin have the desire, and i a have the X10, i prefert my X10 !!
X10 is recently rooted, then I think some devs will adapte the HTc Software to the X10
Thol said:
X10 support the multitouch Hardware.... but it is limited by the OS 1.6...
With the update in 2.1, multitouch will be a reality on X10 !!!
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I'd love to see where you got that info, because everyone else including Sony Ericsson says that the HW doesn't support multitouch.
Thol said:
X10 support the multitouch Hardware.... but it is limited by the OS 1.6...
With the update in 2.1, multitouch will be a reality on X10 !!!!!
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Can you provide your se source for this piece of daydreaming information lol
You do know that they have stated the x10 does not and will not support multitouch as it is limited by both hardware and software!
Thol said:
X10 support the multitouch Hardware.... but it is limited by the OS 1.6...
With the update in 2.1, multitouch will be a reality on X10 !!!
OS 1.6 limite the number of colors dispayed (65K on 1.6, X10 can display 16M)
Video record in 720p will be possible on 2.1 too.
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It's this kind of misinformation that led me to believe the X10 would be the better phone in the long run. To fair to Thol even SE support anaylsts were telling me it was a software limitation just days before release.
According to SE it will never support multitouch it's a limitation in both Hardware and software!
As for the 65k colour limitation SE have not been entirely clear on this point especially as the smaller devices ie mini and mini pro have a spec sheet that states the screen is capable of 16 million colours.
Both the mini and mini pro are on 1.6 too. Now if that's true why does Mini on 1.6 support 16m and the x10 on 1.6 support 65k??
Cheers for the replies guys.
Yea I've read conflicting reports on the multitouch being hardware or software limited, and the same with the screen colours, it's bloody annoying!
Another question which Thol made me realise is what's the mp3 player like on the Desire as that's probably the other main thing I use my phone as, it's seems pretty good on the X10, but as long as it sounds good and dosen't pop and crackle?
rakber said:
Yea I've read conflicting reports on the multitouch being hardware or software limited, and the same with the screen colours, it's bloody annoying!
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The thing is, Sony Ericsson themselves have stated and confirmed the hardware does not support multitouch. Please don't listen to these stupid rumors: they come from people who bought the X10 and regret not having multitouch and they want to believe by some miracle the X10 will get multitouch through a software update.
As for the 65k colors: I believe I read this is a hardware limitation as well, but I can't find any sources so maybe someone else can confirm or deny this with a valid source?
ddewbofh said:
If you feel that you need multitouch than you should get a device that supports it. The X10 doesn't support multitouch either in software or in hardware.
Android will be updated on the X10 soon, either by SE themselves or the community so that is not a huge issue.
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From everything I've read the X10 will not support multitouch.
But it will support an equivalent function using one finger that may be superior to multitouch as you can do all the same functions but can do them with one hand. I think we will be getting it with the next major update.
There was an app demonstrating this function but I deleted it and now cannot find it.
And fwiw, I am more and more falling in love with the elegance of the X10 in spite of some bugs and limitations.
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From everything I've read the X10 will not support multitouch.
But it will support an equivalent function using one finger that may be superior to multitouch as you can do all the same functions but can do them with one hand. I think we will be getting it with the next major update.
There was an app demonstrating this function but I deleted it and now cannot find it.
And fwiw, I am more and more falling in love with the elegance of the X10 in spite of its many bugs and limitations.
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I've just found a vid on youtube with the zoom slide function, I think it's the same one you mean, it looks good but it wouldn't help me with the game side of multitouch I think, which is the main reason I'd want it sorry,
Cheers though.
MarylandCookie said:
Can you provide your se source for this piece of daydreaming information lol
You do know that they have stated the x10 does not and will not support multitouch as it is limited by both hardware and software!
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10-2964.php
Dispay type : TFT Capacitive = Multitouch (normaly)
Sorry, X10 is not Multitouch:
"Despite the capacitive technology, the X10 display won't be getting multi-touch support even with the latest OS."
>I realy think it can be multitouch, Sony have afraid about Apple's lawers... Htc Not !
Hosnestly, i had a iPhone 3G, i'd never use the Multitouch function... perhaps only on a game : air Hokey with my son (multi players)
But it is really 16M color :
"Sony Ericsson have also promised that Android 2.1 will at some point be available for the XPERIA X10 enabling the full use of the 16M color-ready display."
For a serious test :
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10-review-463.php
For MP3 player, the X10 Player is more pretty, but too limited fuctions (no remote supported), I use MixZing (free, but with ads), it support this function (remote).
SE promise a update of the player (media scape) some time after the OS update...
Htc's devices are better for their software...But as i said, some devs will adapts these software on X10 too...
rakber said:
I've just found a vid on youtube with the zoom slide function, I think it's the same one you mean, it looks good but it wouldn't help me with the game side of multitouch I think, which is the main reason I'd want it sorry,
Cheers though.
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No reason to be sorry at all.
I just hope you enjoy whatever you get as much as I do the X10
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I'd love to see where you got that info, because everyone else including Sony Ericsson says that the HW doesn't support multitouch.
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they said that about x10 mini also but they find a multitouch digitizer in it so don't believe sony as it is god
Is there really an update for the one finger zoom in x10?
I know, i read a lot of articles, i saw a lot of videos.. but the articles are unofficial and they are just assuming since x10 mini already got it. and the videos are just from the market, an SE APP.
Did i miss something? did SE mentioned that there will be one soon? are people are just assuming?
as far as i know, the designer (album designer) of x10 mini, is different from the designer of x10's mediascape.
IF I JUST MISSED IT, and there is an official announcement, when it will be implement? in Q3 together with 2.1? in Q4 together with UXP improvement? or in 2011?
*** I MEAN ONE FINGER ZOOM.. lol
You can use JustPictures for one touch zoom in gallery.
I'm looking for an android phone for my wife (she's been using a SE earlier) shortlisted these two phones to have the required features. Now I'm in a dilemma to choose which one to go for. I'm looking for following features -
* Good Camera (at least it should be good for photos)
* Music and FM (mostly MP3s)
* Usability (UI, speed, hangs, any other short comings)
* Application availability and usability ('m ready to root it though)
* GPS and Wifi (for maps and app download, rarely used for browsing)
* Bluetooth (file transfer)
* Standard Ports (3.5MM for Audio and USB for Charging and Data)
* Android Support (Current version and future releases)
all your inputs are highly appreciated..
(Also, 'm wondering should I wait till Xperia X8 released, arrrghhh.. )
PS: 'm posting another thread in X10 Mini forum too, just to get their opinion
In my opinion the x10 mini is too small.I The camera on the wildfire is good at stills but rubbish at video. UI wise I think that sence is better but the wildfire is slower
The x10 runs 1.6 and is going to get 2.1 around September whilst the wildfire runs 2.1 and is going to get 2.2 in september
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Thanks brilldoctor.
That's ok
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I have a Touch Pro 2 at the moment and am looking for something smaller (which is basically any phone but the Dell Streak (its MASSIVE)) and also fancy giving Android a go.
I couldn't find anywhere stocking the Legend, and the Desire is just as big as the TP2 if a bit thinner (and expensive!). So I went and had a play in the mobile phone shops today. Before I went I was concerned that the low resolution screen of the Wildfire would be a big drawback, but it wasn't. This may be down to my poor ageing eyes, in which case a higher resolution would be wasted anyway. But I do agree with the above poster that the X10 mini is too small, and I wasn't keen on the T9 on screen keypad for all text input.
If they had had a brown Wildfire I would have gone for one, the red looks a bit naff!
x10 mini has only 3 hour battery life for talk time LOL i mean what is the point of having a battery on an android device. imagine making calls, listening to music and surfing the net.
i was going to buy this for my gf as her old nokia is dead but put me off. have given her my G1 (classic) and we will both buy desire Z (htc vision) when it comes out later this year.
but wildfire out the 2 options you've given mate
Xperia mini
Xperia mini pro
Release in official blog
This phones have HVGA screen and Android 2.3. SE said that the port Android 2.3 to the X8 screen is difficult and expensive. But now they have a ported Android 2.3 to the HVGA. Get a situation similar to X10 upgrade to 2.3.
Write to the SE a lot of messages that they have ported the firmware from the Xperia mini for X8. It's easy now!
Some links for messages:
Developer World Support
So this is another spit into our faces...
Well that's good, if they come out maybe racht can get some libs from them
looks like my x8 will just get smoked 1ghz processor
I really don't get the point of "World's smallest Android powered HD video smart phone"
HD Video for what? You watch HD movies on that small 3.2" (or even smaller) screen? Even using it with 2 fingers to play game is a difficulty for me. With my laptop 15.2" I only watch m-HD movies, not yet real HD movies...
Lots of pixel in such small size isn't a good thing for me
That's why I chose x8 not x10m/x10mp, because we have bigger screen
/edit: it's a 3" screen, and maybe they insist on HD recording quality. lol. But then, the slogan must be another one
doixanh, you're right!
SE keeps on marketing phrases.
I don't get Sony he is just making high end android phones but not midlle ones like x8 and they dont gave support fir midlle one that not make sense in any way.
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I really don't get the point of "World's smallest Android powered HD video smart phone"
HD Video for what? You watch HD movies on that small 3.2" (or even smaller) screen? Even using it with 2 fingers to play game is a difficulty for me. With my laptop 15.2" I only watch m-HD movies, not yet real HD movies...
Lots of pixel in such small size isn't a good thing for me
That's why I chose x8 not x10m/x10mp, because we have bigger screen
/edit: it's a 3" screen, and maybe they insist on HD recording quality. lol. But then, the slogan must be another one
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its because you record them on phone and can later watch them in pc.thats the point man.by the way.iam loving your GingerDX.best.thanks alot
Xperia Series is now much better but if SE upgrades X8 , x10mini and x10mini pro then this series will rock in the world (And its a dream like that will not become true)
We dont need se.we have racht,doixanh,andyx and ponanovn.its enought said.
from my x8 and every latest **** on it.