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Fortuna BTclip-on + TomTom City Maps

Hi, as a newbie please forgive any protocol errors, this is my first post to any forum.
I am using a SPV M1000 with a Fortuna BT Clip-on, I have managed to pair the devices, no probs so far. When I switch from the TomTom GPS screen (after recieving a signal) to the TomTom City Maps, the BT conection to the Clip-on is cut, and therfore I do not get a fix on the map. This problem also occurs when I try to use Fugawi3 (another mapping prog).
What am I doing wrong, any and all help would be much appreciated.
BT Tools has been added.
Rom v. 1.66.00WWE
Rom date 02/20/04
Radio v. 1.10.00
ExtRom v. 1.66.230

gps coesist problems
I've found that few gps programs coesist properly. I tried tt3 + smartst and had intermittent problems. City maps seems to break everything. The only solution I found was to have say a sprite full backup on my sd card and restore the product suite I wanted, not ideal I know.

i have an mv1000, and i have both mapopolis and tomom3 installed
with connection to fortuna clip on. the baud rate speed on mine is set to 38400 on com 5. never had any problems with devices and software..
although i always had the problem of the fortuna not initalising the bluetooth section...hence i have to switch it off and on a few times. this problem has always been on there way before i bought the mv1000
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I thank you all for the help so far, but as a walker and not a driver, I use TomTom City Maps extensively. As both replies have mentioned TT3, I wonder if this maybe a better road to follow. But is TT3 not based on vehicular transport? How useful would it be for walking around Paris or London for instance?
I migrated to the m1000 because the detail of TTCM's was much improved over the Palm version, I would be dissapointed to have to resurect my Handsping Visor and GPS companion just to use this program. As TomTom City Maps no longer features on TT's website, I am struggling to get help.
The baud rate speed on my device is set to NMEA 0183v2 38400 on COM5

TomTom receives weak GPS Signal

Hi,
I have a Trinity and I am using it with TomTom 6, newest version.
When I go out and use TomTom it finds the GPS signal but it shows that the signal is weak... only 2 bars, although at the same place with my Xda Orbit (HTC P3300) I had full signal... why is this so? different GPS chip?? which I think should not be the problem. or what else?
and does anyone know a software which can download the satellite data from internet?? xda orbit used to have one, but I do not remember the name...
Thanks to you all
Reza

You shouldn't be seeing such a difference in genuine signal levels- does it take longer to get a fix on your Trinity? It may be that TTN is misreporting the signal level, or you may have an antenna problem. If the fix times are similar, you may not have a real problem.
Have you tried a GPS app with a more comprehensive display of signal levels?
The Orbit does use the slightly better 12 channel SIRFStar III chip than the Trinity's 8 Channel Qualcomm chip, but comparative tests have shown little 'real world' difference- maybe a couple of minutes better TTFF on the Orbit.
The Orbit can use a program called QuickGPS which uses the phones cell info to give a location, which then downloads satellite data from HTC's website. Although the facility is built into the Trinity (A-GPS) there is as yet no software which implements it.

well actually it finds the satellite signals quite fast. I have no other program, only GPStuner... I will try that one too.
Thanks for your help
Reza

you should always put what rom and radio you are using....

sorry,
ROM-Version: 1.23.407.2
ROM-Date: 03/12/07
Radio-Version: 1.38.00.11
Protokoll-Version: 32.71.70.20.12H
ExtROM-Version: 1.23.407.103
The system is in German language...

totalpackage181 said:
you should always put what rom and radio you are using....
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I agree fully... where is yours?

hi everybody .... for some reason it is working fine now. I had changed the GPS receiver from built-in to the other option (NMEA GPS) with the setting (COM9, 115200 Baud) and then it worked fine. Then I changed the settings back to internal GPS Receiver ... now it is working good ...
Thanks for your help
Reza

Orbit2-- GPS cannot be detected with IGO PLS HELP?!?!?

Orbit2-- GPS cannot be detected with IGO PLS HELP?!?!?
I have a HUGE problem with getting my GPS running on my Orbit2. It came from O2 with CoPilot7 preinstalled with the maps of UK and Ireland, which I dont use, because I am not located inthere, nevertheless Copilot detects GPS signal and shows positioning, but i dint have the maps for the area that i am in.
I tried to install IGO6 and then IGO8 but I have the same problem-- it cannot detect GPS device, no matter what which COMM Port and BAUD Rate I select.
How come CoPilot detects, and IGO does not? I read that Orbit2 is not locked?!?
Should I boot the whole device using some other ROM.

This may be a silly question but, have you configured the GPS in iGO?
So you are not in Europe? I ask because the CoPilot Disk allows any country (or the whole) of europe (or is that just western, can't remember).

IGO has an option to auto detect the best settings, that is what you should use.

I use IGo with Orbit2 and it works!
Use Autodetection or set the Com-Port to 4 and Baud to 57600...

GPS

is xperia GPS-a or GPS built-in ?
thanks
Lamberto

GPS
And the locking is extremely fast

X1 has a built in A-GPS.
I'm not sure why that's important if it's the one or the other...

The X1 has both; GPS and a-GPS
GPS is the normal GPS using signals from satellites. A-GPS uses the telephone pole signals to locate your position. GPS is more accurate than a-GPS but a-GPS is faster.

Update the satellite information using the included QuickGPS application and the locking is even faster. Mere seconds to get a lock.

TKCable said:
The X1 has both; GPS and a-GPS
GPS is the normal GPS using signals from satellites. A-GPS uses the telephone pole signals to locate your position. GPS is more accurate than a-GPS but a-GPS is faster.
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Not entirely true!
"Assisted GPS, generally abbreviated as A-GPS, enhances the startup performance of a GPS satellite-based positioning system." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-GPS
There are several a-GPS solutions, but those used in pocket pc-s use the GSM or UMTS network to download the almanac data from an assistance server, thus reducing the fix time for the GPS receiver.
So let's be clear: GPS and a-GPS are NOT two different receivers, therefore a-GPS is not less accurate. a-GPS is an enhancement of GPS, and it is commonly used in all pocket pc phones or smart phones equipped with a GPS receiver.
The GSM cell based positining, what you are talking about is used mainly by Google maps, and can be applied on any smart phone without the need of a GPS receiver. The accuracy is very low. This positioning method does not have anything to do with GPS satellite based positioning system.

Anyway it's funny how every post about gps people always argue that agps is internal simple gps but can also be assisted by network.All say the same thing basically but with different words
anyway im soooo happy with the gps of X1
Is the best ive ever seen. and i had n95 8gb tytnII and diamond.

Hardware
Does anybody know the actual hardware used for the gps receiver i.e. SiRF III or something along them lines.
Cheers

scotjen1 said:
Does anybody know the actual hardware used for the gps receiver i.e. SiRF III or something along them lines.
Cheers
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qualcomm GPS one is what it uses.
http://www.qctconnect.com/products/msm_7201.html

Excellent cheers for that..

[solved] GPS only reporting position, not satelites

Hi, can anyone confirm that the built in gps only reports the current position? I use tomtom 7.450 and on my diamond in the gps configuration page it would indicate satelite number, position (both in the top right circles) and signal strength for each satelite (grey/blue bars at the bottom).
My HD2 with 1.48 does not report any satelite data (at least not to tomtom), but only the position east and north. Can anyone confirm this? And is there a way to get satelite "debug" output as well?
Thanks...
EDIT: Seems to be an issue with that particular version of tomtom only.

hi mcseven,
im using tomtom7.45 as well and im getting the same results. i think you are right in your suspicions. the gps probably only outputs lat (N/S) and long (E/W). not just N and E.
the last time i used a BT gps receiver from Holux and that gave me satellite info + gps data but i felt that the lag from the BT connection was a pain and as such still use the internal gps.
what do you intend to do with the satellite info anyways?

I get the same sometimes with leo but never had the problem with Raphael.

I saw a thread discussing this issue a little while back, but I can't remember the exact cause.
I DO remember though that it is an issue with TomTom, and nothing wrong with the GPS functionality.
For example, if I run TomTom, it will locate my position, but not show an satellite connections. However, if I run CoPilot, that locates my position and shows how many satellites I'm connected to and their signal strength.
Sorry I can't remember what the agreed cause of this was, but it was definitely NOT the GPS in the phone.

hi,
i think its a tom tom thing, because if u get gps position you also get satelite data. i do a quick test with igo, copilot, visualgpsce and gpstuner. the are all showing the number of sat's, there position in the sky and the other stuff.
regards mad.

I use TomTom 7.910 and it works normally...Displays both signal strength and satellite just as before. So it's either a pb with your version of TomTom as others suggested or with your ROM.

Thank you all, I also believe it to be an issue with tomtom 7.450 only. Navigons shows sat. data as expected, and the NMEA output confirms this. So I'll simply upgrade tomtom. Thanks again...