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My first thoughts on the Hero

Okay, my first thoughts on the Hero.
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Hardware is lovely. The unit feels just right in the hand, and graphite colour is great.
Screen is very sharp and has excellent colour.
Sense UI is a huge improvement over stock Android is virtually every way.
HTC E-Mail client is great compared to standard cupcake version.
Browser is very fast, and text wrapping is very effective.
Phone is now unlocked and running on Vodafone (thanks to the folks at unlock-now.com). It detects this, and offers to update all my settings accordingly. Nice.
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HTC Smart Dialer doesn't correctly display contacts that only have a company name in them. The numbers show up but with 'unknown' next to them. They display properly in the 'People' application, so it's definitely a HTC bug (I seem to remember the same problem with early versions of this dialer on WM).
GMail client won't let me set a 'reply-to' field. I use GMail for all my e-mail, but use a forwarding service (pobox.com) so want to set my reply to field accordingly. I can get the functionality by using the HTC e-mail client, but then I lose HTML mail capability.
GMail and HTC Mail don't integrate in the mail widget. You can only see accounts configured using HTC Mail.
Flash in browser is very hit and miss. Some simply stuff works, but not much.
Standard calendar application is rubbish. The iPhone is way better here. I guess I'll be looking for a third party alternative.
I'll post more as I discover it.
Bagpuss.

Cool, thanks for the quick update.
When you say the standard calendar is rubbish, can you elaberate more on this? I use the calendar quite a bit and was hoping there would be a widget to show tasks/appointments on my home screen.
Any chance of a video going round the calendar or a good detailed explanation of it?

Sorry to ask again, but the reviews say that the phone WILL sync directly with Outlook (not just exchange) and I have ordered one on that understanding. Could you confirm this for me, please? Ta...

bigbamboo5 said:
Sorry to ask again, but the reviews say that the phone WILL sync directly with Outlook (not just exchange) and I have ordered one on that understanding. Could you confirm this for me, please? Ta...
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Sorry, don't know about this as I don't use Windows or Outlook.
From what I understand, you can sync with Outlook, but you need to use the HTC Sync software. The only problem is that HTC haven't yet made the Hero version available for download. If you go to their support site, they don't have a section for the Hero yet. I'm guessing this will change once the phone is officially released SIM free.
Bagpuss.

nicelad_uk said:
Cool, thanks for the quick update.
When you say the standard calendar is rubbish, can you elaberate more on this? I use the calendar quite a bit and was hoping there would be a widget to show tasks/appointments on my home screen.
Any chance of a video going round the calendar or a good detailed explanation of it?
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The main problem is that you can't get a month view, and be able to move across days to see what they actually contain. On my E71, you see the month calendar on the left, and a small pane on the right which changes to show the events for each day. On the iPhone, you get something similar, but see the details at the bottom of the screen. On the Hero, you get a full screen month display, but have to click on individual days to see the detail. Not a big thing for some, but it's a change to what I like.
You can go to what they call 'Agenda' view which gives you a long list of all upcoming appointments, but you can't get a week view. There is a day view, however.
There is a calendar widget, and it does show today and tomorrow details, but it's very small.
Hope that helps,
Bagpuss.

"Phone is now unlocked and running on Vodafone (thanks to the folks at unlock-now.com). It detects this, and offers to update all my settings accordingly. Nice."
Hi I´m newby spanish user.
I just bougth an HTC Hero with orange and I will like to use the phone with movistart => I need to free the phone. Is it the same as unlock the phone? Is a good method unlock using emai? Did you do it at "http://hero.unlock-now.com/sim-unlock-HTC-Hero/"?
A lot of thanks, sorry for my bad english.
Best regards,
zeed82

Any Speed Issues noticed? Can You give us a brief Comparison to fE iphone 3G, 3GS or maybe TouchHD/Blackstone?

Thanks for the quick little review!
Just a quick couple of questions:
- Im not believing the battery life some have stated as the phone seems to be fully working round the clock
- Can the handset be rotated the other landscape way? So that the trackball is on the left side?

zeed82 said:
"Phone is now unlocked and running on Vodafone (thanks to the folks at unlock-now.com). It detects this, and offers to update all my settings accordingly. Nice."
Hi I´m newby spanish user.
I just bougth an HTC Hero with orange and I will like to use the phone with movistart => I need to free the phone. Is it the same as unlock the phone? Is a good method unlock using emai? Did you do it at "http://hero.unlock-now.com/sim-unlock-HTC-Hero/"?
A lot of thanks, sorry for my bad english.
Best regards,
zeed82
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That's exactly were I got it unlocked. They were incredibly fast. I had my unlock code within about 10 minutes of ordering.
Simply insert your foreign SIM, it will prompt you for the unlock code. Enter the code from unlock-now.com, and it all works.
Bagpuss.

sphinxy said:
Thanks for the quick little review!
Just a quick couple of questions:
- Im not believing the battery life some have stated as the phone seems to be fully working round the clock
- Can the handset be rotated the other landscape way? So that the trackball is on the left side?
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Not sure on the battery life at the moment, as I've not had it long enough to tell.
Sadly, you can't rotate it so the trackball is on the left. It's only a software thing, though, so HTC might implement it in future.
Bagpuss.

Hi Bagpuss,
I have a question. I have two different gmail addresses that I normally use. Is it possible to have the two accounts setup in the phone? Basically I want to know how it handles two e-mail accounts and two google calendar accounts.
Thanks mate.

bigbamboo5 said:
Sorry to ask again, but the reviews say that the phone WILL sync directly with Outlook (not just exchange) and I have ordered one on that understanding. Could you confirm this for me, please? Ta...
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yes the sync software for the orange phone is on the micro sd card provided you plug it in go to mass storage mode and then run the .exe I have syncned all my contacts and calendar , unfortunatly you cannot sync any other outlook items this way currently

Bagpuss said:
GMail client won't let me set a 'reply-to' field.
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you set up the reply to address on the Gmail website.
It's in Settings > accounts, and it sends as whatever you have the default email address set to in the 'send mail as' section.
stilghar said:
Is it possible to have the two accounts setup in the phone?
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No, you can not be signed in to two Gmail accounts at once. you can set up a second Gmail account in the mail application to access your mail from the second account, but i don't know any way to access calendars from a second account unless you can share calendars between accounts. maybe that will work?

How is the screen outdoors?

rhedgehog said:
No, you can not be signed in to two Gmail accounts at once. you can set up a second Gmail account in the mail application to access your mail from the second account, but i don't know any way to access calendars from a second account unless you can share calendars between accounts. maybe that will work?
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Thanks, I think that will do. I can sign in with one of the Gmail accounts and set the other one in the mail application. Regarding the calendars I just noticed that all my google calendars are only in one of the accounts. So I will sign in on the phone with that one and use the other only in the mail application.
The only problem will be moving all my contacts from one account to the other...

Boesman1 said:
Any Speed Issues noticed? Can You give us a brief Comparison to fE iphone 3G, 3GS or maybe TouchHD/Blackstone?
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Just got mine as well,
I noticed that there was considerable amount of lag for the first hour of using it, but now all the lag is gone and its working amazingly well.
HTC have taken a lot of the ideas from this site and implemented it in the sense ui, Customising the phone is fun and really easy, the only thing I'm unhappy with is being unable to get my Hotmail, and I don't really want it forwarded to my gmail.

xdaman85 said:
the only thing I'm unhappy with is being unable to get my Hotmail, and I don't really want it forwarded to my gmail.
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Correct me if wrong, but you can always create a new dummy gmail account, forward your mail to that, and set in the gmail website that your 'identity mail address' (from address AND reply-to) is your hotmail address.
that way other people will not notice you use gmail to retrieve it (unless they look in the headers). Thing is you can't manage your hotmail account that way (delete / move / mark as read your mail)

dipje said:
Correct me if wrong, but you can always create a new dummy gmail account, forward your mail to that, and set in the gmail website that your 'identity mail address' (from address AND reply-to) is your hotmail address.
that way other people will not notice you use gmail to retrieve it (unless they look in the headers). Thing is you can't manage your hotmail account that way (delete / move / mark as read your mail)
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Funnily I got hotmail working through the standard email app, it doesn't push the email but you can set the frequency at which it syncs, so it's good enough.
Also while using the hero i'v noticed that some times the phone doesn't respond after unlocking and it takes a couple of seconds to respond to your touch.

got mine this morning
only just got home to play with it.....
must say it really "feels"like a nice phone....time to play now

hi all to the lucky owners
reading mobile-review and engadget review they say about slowness and sluggyness and lag and devilsh ****ness
is it becouse they have some prototipe sample or do you confirm all this lag and slowness ?
thanks guys

Sent emails not showing in 'Sent' box?

Hi guys,
I've had my HD2 for almost 2 weeks now and am loving it! It's my first Windows Mobile device and I'm learning new things every day.
Everything is set up and working well *touch wood* but I have 1 slight problem. I've been sending/receiving emails via my btinternet account on the handset without a problem so far, but once I've sent out an email, there's no record of it on the handset. It doesn't show up in the sent box and, having had a look through the settings, I can't seem to find anything related to rectifying this type of problem. Am I doing something wrong and/or can anyone help?
Thanks in advance

Yup i have the same issue, another bug, sure it will be fixed soon though.
Also you notice how it does not sync any of the other folder either, atl east on hotmail it does not.

jrvenge said:
Yup i have the same issue, another bug, sure it will be fixed soon though.
Also you notice how it does not sync any of the other folder either, atl east on hotmail it does not.
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Yep I'm having the same problem with my Gmail. The inbox syncs but no other folders sync even though I have selected them in 'Manage Folders'.

Yeah, I've noticed that. It's the same with Yahoo. I don't really mind that so much though to be honest. I just want the confirmation that my emails have been sent, it's very strange?!.

how have you managed to get your hotmail accounts setup on the HD2. i cant seem to connect to the server to sync my email? ive disabled the 'proxy' in the connections settings but still cannot set it up?
Could you pls give a step-by-step setup procedure?
its really appreciated, thanks

DEMODEMO said:
how have you managed to get your hotmail accounts setup on the HD2. i cant seem to connect to the server to sync my email? ive disabled the 'proxy' in the connections settings but still cannot set it up?
Could you pls give a step-by-step setup procedure?
its really appreciated, thanks
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I'm also having problems getting my emails to come through. My btinternet email ones seem sporadic and I have to click on send/receive to get them to come through. My hotmail worked a couple of days ago but now nothing....and I know I've new emails. I keep getting the page appearing asking for my password and username poping up. Can't get it to sync at all. Whats the proxy setting you mention? Wheres that?

from inbox; menu/tools/manage folders, then tick the boxes to any of the fiolders you want synched and finaly refresh your mailbox.
By default, only the inbox is always synched.

DEMODEMO said:
how have you managed to get your hotmail accounts setup on the HD2. i cant seem to connect to the server to sync my email? ive disabled the 'proxy' in the connections settings but still cannot set it up?
Could you pls give a step-by-step setup procedure?
its really appreciated, thanks
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The easiest way to synch your hotmail account is by using the windows live software on your Leo. Just enter your username and password and it will do the rest.

ClownShoes said:
The easiest way to synch your hotmail account is by using the windows live software on your Leo. Just enter your username and password and it will do the rest.
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hi , thanks.
i honestly 'prefer not to' install all the live stuff... as i believe ppl here have been able to sync without installing this? would you know if this is possible (it would be better)?
thanks

DEMODEMO said:
hi , thanks.
i honestly 'prefer not to' install all the live stuff... as i believe ppl here have been able to sync without installing this? would you know if this is possible (it would be better)?
thanks
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You don't have to install anything, it's already there on your start menu. It simply automates your mailbox syncing.

ClownShoes said:
You don't have to install anything, it's already there on your start menu. It simply automates your mailbox syncing.
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found it. ill give it a go, thanks for your help!

from inbox; menu/tools/manage folders, then tick the boxes to any of the fiolders you want synched and finaly refresh your mailbox.
You cant tick them there is no option to?

jrvenge said:
from inbox; menu/tools/manage folders, then tick the boxes to any of the fiolders you want synched and finaly refresh your mailbox.
You cant tick them there is no option to?
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Having the same problem, there's no tick box!

It is strange if you cant see the boxes at least for some folders. I have to choice for Inbox, Sent Items and Junk mail.
Anyway you can try to keep the finger on the folder to get context menu where are other Folder options. And there is something I would like to ask some advanced user - why I can switch there from "Download email headers" to "Download complete message" but nothing happens and from Hotmail account the phone keeps downloading just email headers. Btw. when using POP3 for my other email account I am able to set this option to Download complete message and YES, there it is running like a charm. But with Hotmail I am not able to succeed.
Anyone knows the clue?

ClownShoes said:
from inbox; menu/tools/manage folders, then tick the boxes to any of the fiolders you want synched and finaly refresh your mailbox.
By default, only the inbox is always synched.
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man it was so easy. thx

jrvenge said:
from inbox; menu/tools/manage folders, then tick the boxes to any of the fiolders you want synched and finaly refresh your mailbox.
You cant tick them there is no option to?
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thx .

got it working
ok maybe its a little late but i figured it out... ---> click on email--> click on menu--> new acc--> pick hotmail/live--> put login info--> if it goes to opera like it did to me or does appear below gmail or so forth on the email tab don't worry im gonna tell you what to do next--> find the windows live icon click it.. once ur logged in you will see Windows live Home follows by Messenger followed by sync--> click on sync--> a new option appears and it should be hotmail option to view your emails..--> now get out and go to your email tab..--> at this point your hotmail is sync to ur device and should be good to go..

ClownShoes said:
from inbox; menu/tools/manage folders, then tick the boxes to any of the fiolders you want synched and finaly refresh your mailbox.
By default, only the inbox is always synched.
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thanks so much clown shoes this is so simple but so easy to overlook i spent hours before i found this now have my saved mails

thanks!
I second the above poster! The fix for this was so easy, but so incredibly counterintuitive that I don't think that I'd have ever gotten this on my own.

I am trying to get the incoming mail server settings for the mobile.msn.com so i can add a second account. Does anybody know these settings?

Gmail App and deleting from server

Does anyone use Gmail w/Sync that actually delete/marks as read from the server?
From what I can tell there is no option to set this up and it is quite frustrating as it makes the incoming message count incorrect...

krohnjw said:
Does anyone use Gmail w/Sync that actually delete/marks as read from the server?
From what I can tell there is no option to set this up and it is quite frustrating as it makes the incoming message count incorrect...
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Do you mean that if you mark a message as read or delete on the gmail web client it doesn't update the Gmail inbox on your N1?

the Gmail android client automaticly marks things as "read" once you open them. It will also delete from the server by default. If you long press on an item you'll get more options.
pretty much whatever you do on your phone will be reflected on your computer. As long as your phone has service.

If you're looking at both your inbox on your computer and your phone, you won't see the changes happen instantly. (I tried, lol) You gotta give a few minutes.

NexusMMM said:
Do you mean that if you mark a message as read or delete on the gmail web client it doesn't update the Gmail inbox on your N1?
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No, the other way around. Changes made on the phone are never reflected on the web client, e.g. marking a message read or deleting a message. Messages on the server will remain perpetually unread and in the inbox until I log in to the web client and delete/mark them read. In the meantime all new incoming message counts are wrong as a result (it will say 4 new messages when there is really only 1 new but the previous three are still unread on the server).
dills84 said:
the Gmail android client automaticly marks things as "read" once you open them. It will also delete from the server by default. If you long press on an item you'll get more options.
pretty much whatever you do on your phone will be reflected on your computer. As long as your phone has service.
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This is the behavior I expect but is not what Polish occurring at all...the messages sever side remain untouched until I alter them (read, move, delete ) from the web client.

Ok, I did a factory reset as this doesn't appear to be the behavior experienced by others and the problem appears to have been resolved. It is now behaving as expected...odd that it wasn't before.

Auto Download for email?>

is there a way i can get the hd2 to automatically download my emails when it comes to my phone its annoying having to wait for it to download everytime i want to see an email

All my e-mails a coming over gmail (I have 4 diferent e-mail adress) and I´m using active sync to m.google.com. All e-mails a now filtered (No spam).

Tomen said:
All my e-mails a coming over gmail (I have 4 diferent e-mail adress) and I´m using active sync to m.google.com. All e-mails a now filtered (No spam).
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LOL what?? did you not read what the OP posted? what does your response have to do with anything??
I wish i had something to add... but unfortunately.. i'm also someone who has interest in this question.... anyone?

Yeah I too am interested in knowing this

I too use gmail
It has a push email server option.
It has the facility to import mail & contacts from numerous other accounts.
If your regular account is a gmail (or gmail 'family', ie Sky) account, you can forward mail from it to your gmail push email account.
This way I have a 'one stop shop' single push email account on my HD2 for my numerous email accounts. Can reply from the received account too.
I have set the option to also leave collected mail on the original server.
Have been using it faultlessly for a year.
Setting Up Your Windows Mobile Phone for Google Sync

RalphS said:
I too use gmail
It has a push email server option.
It has the facility to import mail & contacts from numerous other accounts.
If your regular account is a gmail (or gmail 'family', ie Sky) account, you can forward mail from it to your gmail push email account.
This way I have a 'one stop shop' single push email account on my HD2 for my numerous email accounts. Can reply from the received account too.
I have set the option to also leave collected mail on the original server.
Have been using it faultlessly for a year.
Setting Up Your Windows Mobile Phone for Google Sync
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so how does this solve my problem about MY EMAIL DOWNLOADING AUTOMATICALLY
please explain......

im sorry maybey i might be phrasing this wrong. i would like to know how an email MEASAGE can download automatically. without having to keep hitting on get the rest of measage

ariel123 said:
im sorry maybey i might be phrasing this wrong. i would like to know how an email MEASAGE can download automatically. without having to keep hitting on get the rest of measage
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Have read your post many times. I thought I had answered it!
Push email is delivered to your device as soon as it arrives in your server's mailbox. AUTOMATICALLY

this thread is quite comical - it seems many of us are interested in this - however people are answering it with either a totally different subject or actually not answering at all.
@RalphS - to be fair, you didn't answer it at all. We all know the email is SUPPOSE to arrive automatically once the Gmail servers or Hotmail servers pick it up, however it is not being pushed to the phone AUTOMATICALLY. You have to set a schedule for it which by default is to check every two hours unless you change it. It is NOT being PUSHED.
This is the point and also the reason "ariel123" posted a very common question most here would like a solution to.
Reading the question would avoid confusion. Clearly you did not understand the question despite "reading it amny times" - bottom line, no, you didn't answer it!

legend17 said:
this thread is quite comical - it seems many of us are interested in this - however people are answering it with either a totally different subject or actually not answering at all.
@RalphS - to be fair, you didn't answer it at all. We all know the email is SUPPOSE to arrive automatically once the Gmail servers or Hotmail servers pick it up, however it is not being pushed to the phone AUTOMATICALLY. You have to set a schedule for it which by default is to check every two hours unless you change it. It is NOT being PUSHED.
This is the point and also the reason "ariel123" posted a very common question most here would like a solution to.
Reading the question would avoid confusion. Clearly you did not understand the question despite "reading it amny times" - bottom line, no, you didn't answer it!
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It would be easier to answer the question if the OP asked it in clear English using correct grammar and spelling. It's a bit difficult to answer something that appears to be written by a child who expects help from mind readers.
The first post certainly did seem to be asking about push email which explains why people have offered gmail as a suggestion. However, the OP's subsequent posts seem to be about downloading entire emails rather than just headers. If this is the case (and it's impossible to be certain given the lack of legible detail in the posts) then do the following if you're using Exchange or EAS:
- Click on Start>Tools>Activesync.
- Click on Menu>Options, select your exchange server and click on Settings.
- Click on Next twice, select Email and then click on Settings.
- Select Entire Message from the Download size limit combo and tick the Include file attachments option.
- Click on OK and then click on Finish.

It has been properly answered - seriously.
My incoming mail is PUSHED to my mobile AUTOMATICALLY in REAL TIME WITHOUT A SCHEDULE.
Notification of the previous post arrived, of it's own accord, @ 14:15.
I do not have my own mail server. I rely solely on the Gmail exchange server to SEND to me my incoming mail, in their entirety, PUSHED in real time, collected from my numerous accounts, all for free.
In my 1st post I gave the link on how to set up for push email.

jakem said:
It would be easier to answer the question if the OP asked it in clear English using correct grammar and spelling. It's a bit difficult to answer something that appears to be written by a child who expects help from mind readers.
The first post certainly did seem to be asking about push email which explains why people have offered gmail as a suggestion. However, the OP's subsequent posts seem to be about downloading entire emails rather than just headers. If this is the case (and it's impossible to be certain given the lack of legible detail in the posts) then do the following if you're using Exchange or EAS:
- Click on Start>Tools>Activesync.
- Click on Menu>Options, select your exchange server and click on Settings.
- Click on Next twice, select Email and then click on Settings.
- Select Entire Message from the Download size limit combo and tick the Include file attachments option.
- Click on OK and then click on Finish.
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jakem i dont accept your smart comments so for that FUK YOU but thank you for helping me you solved my problem
Have a good a good day

No worries Ariel, I'm glad that I managed to help you sort your problem. I'm also pleased to see that you decided not to break with tradition when misspelling your insult

ProjektFuze said:
LOL what?? did you not read what the OP posted? what does your response have to do with anything??
I wish i had something to add... but unfortunately.. i'm also someone who has interest in this question.... anyone?
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http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138636

Tomen said:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138636
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Which is the same link I quoted in my first post..........

RalphS said:
Which is the same link I quoted in my first post..........
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sorry, i dont read your link

jakem said:
No worries Ariel, I'm glad that I managed to help you sort your problem. I'm also pleased to see that you decided not to break with tradition when misspelling your insult
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lol thanks

Start -> E-mail -> Menu -> Options -> Tap an account to change settings - > Download size settings -> Message download limit -> Entire message

My Emails won't download everything...

How do I make sure that every time sense UI downloads my emails from gmail, that it download the entire email? I hate it when I have to click "Get the Rest of the Message" to read it all.
I like to download the entire email because when I leave the house I have no Wifi to re-download them.

never had that problem. But i have gmail set up through activesync.
http://www.google.com/mobile/sync/

veda_sticks said:
never had that problem. But i have gmail set up through activesync.
http://www.google.com/mobile/sync/
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you probably dont have that problem because your emails are never long enough. being a busy business person, my emails are always long and detailed.
Can anyone help me?

I have the same problem. even though I check off "entire message" I still don't see the html pcitures in the mail unless I click download" in the message.

do some search. its not possible to download pics immediately --> safety feature of winmo you cant disable.

n4v1n said:
I have the same problem. even though I check off "entire message" I still don't see the html pcitures in the mail unless I click download" in the message.
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where do you check off "entire message" ive searched the entire menus and cant find it anywhere.

same problem mate
i checeked settings and nothing
have to choose download manully and then it says it will download on the next sync....grrrrr (my email syncs every 60 minutes)

And once more (as there are already douzens of threads about this):
For "normal" POP3/IMAP-Accounts: Email-Tab, Inbox, Menü, Extras, Options, Click Mail Account, Settings for DownloadSize (dont know how its called in EN)
For ASync: Open ASync, Menu, Options, Mark Email, Settings, DownloadSize
BUT AGAIN: You wont be able to download html-integrated pictures of the Mail immediately as it is a safetyfeature of WinMob !
Greets