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I accept that I just don't get it but...
WTF is up with the Gmail app? No folders, only labels, is there a way to empty trash? Is there a way to take things out of the trash? I don't get the labels thing. I just want a normal email client interface for Gmail push mail.
These threaded 'conversations' are annoying as hell to sift thru.
Are the labels the 'new' folders? Am I supposed to create labels like I used to create folders? Is this only done thru the web desktop version of gmail?
I know, I know I'm the dumb*ss here... but WTF.
I guess this new Gmail thing is this great new revolutionary thing but I just don't get it and looking through emails in this new way that's unlike any email client I have ever worked with has never been more frustrating.
Pardon my rant... just frustrated that I am having such a difficult time understanding this and I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't get it. Please forgive.
BTW, I tried the Gmail help & faq but I still don't get it. Can anyone point me towards something that will help me become an expert in this new amazing label bullsh*t? Thanks!
I recently noticed that you cannot bring an item from the trash back to the inbox. I would consider that a bug. Fortunately you can fix it by logging in thru a web browser.
Deleted items are dumped automatically once they are 30 days old. You can empty trash if you go in via browser but there's really no point.
Yes, labels are "the new folders". They work the same way except an e-mail can only be in one folder but it can have any number of labels.
I would recommend that you start using the browser-based gmail on your PC for a little while. It's a little easier to undertsand that way and then it will make more sense on the phone.
ETA: Another thing people have trouble with is the "Archive" button which really means "Disappear from the Inbox." So if you want to "put a message into a folder" tag it with whatever labels you want and then archive it. Conveniently, if a new message appears in an archived conversation, it will automagically un-archive itself.
Thanks for your response... I'll take a look at the online desktop version of Gmail, try to familiarize myself with this new way of organizing email. Definitely not a fan so far...
on my G1 whenever I select a message and go to change the label my only option is Inbox (+ or -) whatever that means. And yeah I accidentally hit Archive on one message and accidentally reported another as spam... and there's no confirmation on anything so it does it all immediately, which is great if you know what the hell you're doing.
Push mail comes at a price I guess. Thinking my dumb*ass will stick with IMAP checking every 5 mins. Oh well.
F*cking lame system if you ask me.
yeah, i don't get it either. watched some coworkers use gmail and it didn't make any sense to me why they would change how email client works. but at least their calendar app behaves normally as far as i can tell.
i'll just stick to my pop3 email, although the pop email client on the g1 is total crap.
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on my G1 whenever I select a message and go to change the label my only option is Inbox (+ or -) whatever that means.
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If you remove the Inbox label (it show + when it's removed) it's the same as archiving.
I think you can only add labels via the web interface, which is why you only see the inbox label.
F*cking lame system if you ask me.
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Once you start using it, the "old way" should start to drive you nuts.
@Ultraman: They changed it because that's pretty much what Google does for a living. They try to come up with a different (and hopefully better) way to do things.
Yeah the pop3/imap client isn't so great, but it looks a lot better than the Gmail interface in my opinion...
I notice a problem though with the pop3 client where it always displays messages as unread even if I've looked at them... for some reason I don't have this problem when I have the account setup as IMAP though.
I notice weird things happen... Where emails disappear from my inbox but I can see them when I view 'All Mail'. I check the label and it is set for Inbox and yet the message isn't listed on my G1 Inbox. I go online and sure enough it is listed in the Inbox online... so I have to view All Mail in the online version and select Move to Inbox (even though online it already appears to be in my Inbox) and then sometimes it shows back up on my G1 device.
Really loving that I have to continuously go online to reset emails... I love this new system... so much fun trying to hunt down emails. Wayyy better than folders. With folders everything was too predictable... drop an email in a folder and it stayed there... this new system is nice, keeps me on my toes
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I notice weird things happen... Where emails disappear from my inbox but I can see them when I view 'All Mail'. I check the label and it is set for Inbox and yet the message isn't listed on my G1 Inbox. I go online and sure enough it is listed in the Inbox online... so I have to view All Mail in the online version and select Move to Inbox (even though online it already appears to be in my Inbox) and then sometimes it shows back up on my G1 device.
Really loving that I have to continuously go online to reset emails... I love this new system... so much fun trying to hunt down emails. Wayyy better than folders. With folders everything was too predictable... drop an email in a folder and it stayed there... this new system is nice, keeps me on my toes
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Make sure your client isn't set to automatically delete email off your server after its fetched
hmm..yeah there might be a bit of understanding curve if you are new..
i been using gmail since early beta days and now i just cannot go back to those rigid folders used by yahoo etc..
i have so many labels and they are all intertwined..just cannot imagine living with the "old folder"
good luck with getting thru gmail
I know the labels seems confusing, but as one poster put it before -- When you put something in a folder, it's just in that folder, and nowhere else. Labels gives you the option of having things organized a little better.
For example, an email from my Dad telling me his new address can have the lables "DAD", "FAMILY" and "ADDRESS".
The labels come into play really well on the web interface, you can go to your labels on the left, click the label and get everything that has that label.
With the folder system, you have to chose ONE place for it. With the labels system you can tag an email with as many labels as it needs so when you need to find it, it's easy.
The labels come in really handy for sorting incoming email, I have a bunch of filters that do all kinds of things, for example -
Facebook Filter - I set this up to tag those Facebook notifications with a "FACEBOOK" label and then to mark them as read. I can see that I got them, but I don't have to worry about getting a notification on my phone about silly facebook stuff.
Work Filter - Anyone emailing from my theatre company automatically gets the label, so I can see all of the correspondence about the company very easily.
I love the threaded emails, makes it so much easier to follow the conversation. Not everyone's email is set up to respond with the text from the previous email, so this helps keep it all intact. I think it helps organize and keep the inbox looking tidy.
I would definitely play around with the PC version. The android version is limited, even the android-browser version is limited (but does have more features than the app). Once you get a handle on the PC version, the G1 version will make more sense. I don't know if they've fixed anything, but years ago I tried the IMAP way of checking my gmail in Outlook -- totally sucked, would pull everything, even deleted emails through. I just tested, and apparently this has changed, but it used to be the case that "deleted" emails weren't truly "deleted" they actually went to some other archive and you could bring them back if you wanted. They put a little notice or something letting you know it had been deleted and "do you want to recover the email?" sorta messaging.
Anyway, a lot of people like gmail a lot, but not everyone is going to like everything. Especially when it involves a new way of thinking. If you have Outlook 2007, they've done something very similar with lables - so gmail is definitely influencing and changing the way people think about email.
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If you have Outlook 2007, they've done something very similar with lables - so gmail is definitely influencing and changing the way people think about email.
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So true! Actually Outlook has had categories/labels for a long time but they were never well-implemented/supported until 2007. I actually use conversation view, categories and search folders now to mimic gmail in Outlook as best I can!
He,y guys, thanks for your input. I guess I wasn't aware of that in Outlook 2007. I've been using outlook based purely on folders and mail rules. Good to know.
I've been forcing myself to get comfortable with the new system. I find the less I mess with things, the better it works for me. Specifically I find if I remove the Inbox label from an email then later add it back on it doesn't always show up again in the Inbox... but it's probably something I'm doing wrong.
Aside from that one thing, the labels are working pretty well for me now. Like you mentioned I setup work, family, ecommerce, etc labels and I do like the way these labels show next to the message on the g1.
Slowly but surely becoming a believer... Thanks for helping me understand.
Question...
How do I delete an individual email message from a conversation? I tried to go into the conversation via the Gmail app, selected the message that i wanted to delete and deleted it, but it killed the whole conversation instead of the one individual email. What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
I don't think it can be done in the phone interface though you might be able to do it in the web interface.
Not a fan of the conversation threading for this very reason. Sometimes I get an important email with a few not so important replies... and I have to look through conversation thread to locate the important info when 90% is trash...
I wish i could have push Gmail with the old so-called *inferior* folder method that never had these silly issues. If you're going to re-invent the wheel, seems it would make sense to add functionality without taking away from the basics.
I'm going to re-invent a wheel that requires physical carrying until I can figure out how to get it to roll properly.. but it's gonna be way better than the old way because these new wheels have lights! ooh! Sorry for the sarcasm
Thanks for the reply!
In the web interface click the 'down arrow' next to "reply" on an individual email in the thread. Choose 'Delete this message'.
You can only delete a single mail from the thread in the web app - not the Android app it seems.
I've been using Gmail since the invite Betas too, and so the Android App is more of a supplement for me...
Okay, well it's good to know there is a way to do it. Thanks for the instructions on how to delete a specific message in a conversation! Much appreciated!
Are there any ways to enable or simulate "push" email on POP or IMAP accounts?
I need to get frequent updates from my ISP email box. I currently have my HD2 set to poll for new mail every 5 minutes, but this simply murders the battery: it burns 4 or 5% per hour even in stand-by, let alone when I'm actually using it. I've heard that push email is actually more economical than polling every 5 minutes (as the "heartbeat" signals are sent out more rarely and contain less data). Obviously one can enable push email when talking to an Exchange server or to hotmail, but by default there's no way to do it when communicating with a POP or IMAP server. Is there any way to achieve or simulate email push from one of those?
One possibility that I have heard of but know virtually nothing about is a thing called "IMAP Idle" - if anyone wishes to educate me on how it works and how it can be accessed under Windows Mobile, and whether it can actually help, here, then I'm all ears! But any suggestion is welcome.
There are really no push email for Windows Mobile. Only for Iphone.
I'm looking for the same thing.
I found this other thread here which can be what you are looking for.. (oh, I can't post links as I'm new).
Search for the thread called: SchedHandler 1.74 / Scheduler for PUSH EMAIL+Polling/execute/switch/etc
In the windows mobile apps / games subforum.
Use Gmail with the IMAP service and Activesync - this seems to work reasonably effectively as a push email service.
Shasarak,
See this thread...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612644
WB
thenewguy1979 said:
There are really no push email for Windows Mobile. Only for Iphone.
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lol @ the troll
download the windows live program and l
push email is built right in. its very reliable but you have to use your MSN, live.com, or hotmail account though
doctajay said:
download the windows live program and l
push email is built right in. its very reliable but you have to use your MSN, live.com, or hotmail account though
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The built-in Windows Live application does push email very nicely for hotmail - no download needed. But I was asking about POP or IMAP email accounts.
I forward all my POP accounts to gmail and pick them up as they are pushed over ActiveSync. I've tested it by emailing me and my wifes blackberry and its only marginally slower.
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I forward all my POP accounts to gmail and pick them up as they are pushed over ActiveSync. I've tested it by emailing me and my wifes blackberry and its only marginally slower.
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I also tried this; and it worked fine for push email part. However, did you solve the problem of any replies you send coming from the gmail account? Despite trying various "reply from" settings within gmail I couldn't get it to reply as if from the original account.
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I also tried this; and it worked fine for push email part. However, did you solve the problem of any replies you send coming from the gmail account? Despite trying various "reply from" settings within gmail I couldn't get it to reply as if from the original account.
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There is apparently a way to make gmail send through another account, I can't get it to work.
Same here, I just took the plunge and configured my gmail account for push, and fetching from my 3 usual POP3s. It seems to work pretty well, but the reply email address is indeed always the gmail one even if I set the address to be "address the message was sent to", or even just set another address as default.
Gmail can be a bit slow as well, it seems it checks the POP3 about every 5 mins. Push can take from 30 seconds to 10 minutes. When replying, the outgoing mail appears in the desktop inbox right after the mail was sent from the device, but there can be a delay until it's actually sent out, I tried twice, and once it took 20 mins and the other 2 mins only.
So you'd better not be too stressed, but it definitely beats having to check manually, sometimes 10 times in a row, times 3 accounts, for nothing as there's no new mail...
Hosted Exchange is very affordable and solves all the problems people have with technologies like IMAP4 and POP3, which really are out-dated, and, in the case of IMAP4, not consistently implemented.
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I need to get frequent updates from my ISP email box. I currently have my HD2 set to poll for new mail every 5 minutes, but this simply murders the battery: it burns 4 or 5% per hour even in stand-by, let alone when I'm actually using it. I've heard that push email is actually more economical than polling every 5 minutes (as the "heartbeat" signals are sent out more rarely and contain less data). Obviously one can enable push email when talking to an Exchange server or to hotmail, but by default there's no way to do it when communicating with a POP or IMAP server. Is there any way to achieve or simulate email push from one of those?
One possibility that I have heard of but know virtually nothing about is a thing called "IMAP Idle" - if anyone wishes to educate me on how it works and how it can be accessed under Windows Mobile, and whether it can actually help, here, then I'm all ears! But any suggestion is welcome.
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Yes there is, and is provided by a company called Seven, for free. http://www.seven.com/ . Give it a try.
I use it on my Treo Pro and it works fine. Sign up for a Seven account, download the cab file and configure your POP or IMAP accounts.
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If you're using GMAIL (which is IMAP), Google provides free push for GMAIL via Exchange Activesync (Google Sync, you get push GMAIL, contacts, calendar). Go here http://www.google.com/mobile/sync/
OK, when I logged in to gmail this morning I could see that it was now polling my POP3 only every hour or so. It says it decides the polling interval on how often you get messages, and that it's not possible to define one manually. So that can lead to long delays.
So instead of having gmail poll my POP3, I've now set my server to forward everything to gmail. It's a lot better now, I get the mail on my phone within 5 mins max.
It seems a lot of people don't understand what "Push email" actually is...
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It seems a lot of people don't understand what "Push email" actually is...
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Can you expand your point?
As far as I am aware Push Email is when the MDA pushes the mail to the MUA at the point of the mail arriving on the MDA as opposed to the MUA polling the MDA for new mail at a predetermined time.
Without going into all your TLA's, Push email is effectively the server saying I have an email for this client and pushing it to the device telling the device, "heh I got an email for you, catch!" like the way Blackberry works.
The majority of people on this thread keep referring to POP3/IMAP4 which is Pull email as the mail program goes to the server (be it every 30 seconds or every hour) and asks "have you got any mail for me please?" to which the server replies yes or no...
The OP from what I saw wanted to know if any Push Email solutions existed, eg. Blackberry style and the majority of replies were to do with Pull Email solutions, eg. POP3/IMAP4, so I just made the comment I did.
Heh ho and all that malarky...
Edit: on re-reading (I am at work so may have skimmed it a bit quickly) maybe my original comment wasn't relevant to the post. Ah well
Starfury said:
The majority of people on this thread keep referring to POP3/IMAP4 which is Pull email as the mail program goes to the server (be it every 30 seconds or every hour) and asks "have you got any mail for me please?" to which the server replies yes or no...
The OP from what I saw wanted to know if any Push Email solutions existed, eg. Blackberry style and the majority of replies were to do with Pull Email solutions, eg. POP3/IMAP4, so I just made the comment I did.
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I think we understand the distinction between pull and push just fine, thanks.
My question was whether there is a way to make an email account based on POP or IMAP behave as if it were push-based. Use of IMAP IDLE should achieve this (if I understand it correctly - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP_IDLE). I was also inviting other suggestions.
to reiterate my earlier point google mail does free exchange connection to their POP/IMAP service, you can realtime sync mail, contacts and calendar data, its pushnot pull.
Does it ever happen to you guys? I didn't get a text, email or anything, the screen just turned on on its own.
yeah lots for me and the new roms I change daily. Always put it down to polling weather servers etc.
Kezzainc said:
yeah lots for me and the new roms I change daily. Always put it down to polling weather servers etc.
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Anyway we can fix it? The big screen is a battery killer.
My screen for some reason is showing one new e-mail but I have deleted all of them (from phone and website as well) ... eh whatever ...
eenbox said:
My screen for some reason is showing one new e-mail but I have deleted all of them (from phone and website as well) ... eh whatever ...
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I have that problem too
simeezee said:
Does it ever happen to you guys? I didn't get a text, email or anything, the screen just turned on on its own.
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Try un-check the Voice Command in Settings/Other.
By default it is checked, so I thing that's messing up the screen in noisy environments.
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I have that problem too
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You have to go to Inbox and actually read every new e-mail, to get rid of those hanging notifications.
There's also a cab fix that adds a menu item: "Mark a Read" but that's essentially the same thing as going to Inbox and opening each mesage.
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I have that problem too
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My screen for some reason is showing one new e-mail but I have deleted all of them (from phone and website as well) ... eh whatever ...
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The real fix lies in Active Sync...
You need to recreate the Exchange Mail account, then access the original or "dummy" account created when the PC synchronizes with your device to access system settings. Within that inbox, you will find the "Welcome" e-mail that you did NOT receive a notification for, nor read. OPEN IT. DELETE IT. And there you are... no more lingering notification on S2U2, or the home screen tab.
Reignzone said:
The real fix lies in Active Sync...
You need to recreate the Exchange Mail account, then access the original or "dummy" account created when the PC synchronizes with your device to access system settings. Within that inbox, you will find the "Welcome" e-mail that you did NOT receive a notification for, nor read. OPEN IT. DELETE IT. And there you are... no more lingering notification on S2U2, or the home screen tab.
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If you set up a push account then this is what will happen.While in your email tab inbox swipe to the side till you get to outlook and clear the inbox in outlook.
How do I make sure that every time sense UI downloads my emails from gmail, that it download the entire email? I hate it when I have to click "Get the Rest of the Message" to read it all.
I like to download the entire email because when I leave the house I have no Wifi to re-download them.
never had that problem. But i have gmail set up through activesync.
http://www.google.com/mobile/sync/
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never had that problem. But i have gmail set up through activesync.
http://www.google.com/mobile/sync/
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you probably dont have that problem because your emails are never long enough. being a busy business person, my emails are always long and detailed.
Can anyone help me?
I have the same problem. even though I check off "entire message" I still don't see the html pcitures in the mail unless I click download" in the message.
do some search. its not possible to download pics immediately --> safety feature of winmo you cant disable.
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I have the same problem. even though I check off "entire message" I still don't see the html pcitures in the mail unless I click download" in the message.
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where do you check off "entire message" ive searched the entire menus and cant find it anywhere.
same problem mate
i checeked settings and nothing
have to choose download manully and then it says it will download on the next sync....grrrrr (my email syncs every 60 minutes)
And once more (as there are already douzens of threads about this):
For "normal" POP3/IMAP-Accounts: Email-Tab, Inbox, Menü, Extras, Options, Click Mail Account, Settings for DownloadSize (dont know how its called in EN)
For ASync: Open ASync, Menu, Options, Mark Email, Settings, DownloadSize
BUT AGAIN: You wont be able to download html-integrated pictures of the Mail immediately as it is a safetyfeature of WinMob !
Greets
Whilst using the Galaxy S I have come to miss a few features I had on my HD2.
Does anyone have any input on the following email and text message queries?
1. Email/Text Notification
On both my HD2 and the Desire (Desire email only) the email & text icon shows in green how many email/text messages you have.
Is there any way to have this feature on the Galaxy S?
Note: I know at the Lock Screen the Jigsaw displays a count but this does not indicate what is Email and what is Text.
2. All New Emails on a PC showing as Read
Iv'e noticed even when my Galaxy has it's screen switched off and untouched (in other words I have not checked the email messages), if later when I go to my PC it's showing all the messages as read (the Headings are no longer Bold Text).
Has anyone come across a method to reverse this?
As in when I go to my PC I want to see any new messages I have not yet read as Marked as Unread.
3. Spam Content
I've noticed all messages including Spam are shown on the Galaxy S in the Inbox.
The trouble here is not so much as it being displayed but unlike on the PC which has a dedicated Spam Folder you can't identify which messages are genuine and which are Spam.
Is there any way to sort this out?
I'm dreading clicking on one message only to find out it's Spam.
4. Different Sound Ringtone/Notifications for either Email or Texts?
On the HD2 if a new email or text came in it sounded off a dedicated sound/ringtone, or if I'd missed a Text Message the HD2 flashed Green.
I know on the Galaxy S there is no LED notification to work this idea on but I miss having different sounds.
As an example ~ I'm constantly hearing the phone play a sound ~ which I then have to pick up time after time just to find out if it's an email or text message.
On the HD2 if it were a text message sound I'd pick it up and read it, whereas if it were an email sound I'd leave it until I was ready.
5. No Filter Support on Android Mail using services other than GMail
On the PC I use Yahoo for mail and like other email programs it supports filters where you can add as many folders as you wish.
I have many folders which when mail comes to my yahoo account is automatically filtered to a particular folder ~ as in I have a filter marked 'Brother' where all my Brother's email gets dropped automatically into and when new mail comes in his folder it is shown in bold and indicates such with a number of how many email messages he has sent.
On Windows Mobile, i.e. the Touch HD & HD2 in particular to have the phones display mail that is sent to these filtered folders you select to Manage Folders and add them to the list of messages to download to the phone and view/reply to.
On Android i.e. the Galaxy S there does not appear to be any means of viewing these filtered folders. As such all mail sent to these folders is not received by the phone.
Therefore, does anyone know of a method like on Windows Mobile where you can display these folders?
6. Text Message Character Counting
Again on Windows Mobile Touch HD & HD2 when you went to compose a Text Message whilst you tapped away at your message it would count the characters being used.
Although most of us have an unlimited sms account I used to find this feature useful in that it at least showed me how many text messages it would be to generate the long message.
Quite often I used to try and get the character count down to a single text message quote of just 160 characters or 240 for two messages.
So, the question here is ~ how do we get Android to show the character count?
7. Replying to Yahoo Email Messages directly from the App 'Internet'
I have created a bookmark icon on the Galaxy S which automatically launches the App Internet then the bookmark Yahoo Mail.
I've noticed every time I try to reply to an email message from within the Internet yahoo client (not the Android mail App) it will not allow you to add any text.
Does anyone else have this problem?
Notes:
Item 5 added Monday 21 June 2010 ~ see Post 14.
Item 6 added Tuesday 22 June 2010 ~ see Post 17.
Item 7 added Tuesday 22 June 2010 ~ see Post 19
For number 2 and 3, do you use Gmail, Exchange, POP or IMAP for your mail?
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For number 2 and 3, do you use Gmail, Exchange, POP or IMAP for your mail?
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It's BT's Yahoo
From what i can see om BT's website there email-offering does only support POP which does not update read-status to the server.
Are you sure you get new emails to your PC when your phone downloads emails aswell?
usually when something downloads emails from an POP-server it takes the emails from the server so that it's only available om the thing that downloaded the email.
Beards, I don't know how it is on the Yahoo email but on the Gmail Android application we go in settings and we change the sound notification.
For SMS in settings isn't there a sound notification alert setting? usually on Android there is and you click it and you decide which ringtone you want, same for email.
Try ChompSMS from the Market (along with Handcent it's the best one in my opinion)
you can customize the ringtones, etc.. and it's a very nice application for SMS (also bubble chat).
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From what i can see om BT's website there email-offering does only support POP which does not update read-status to the server.
Are you sure you get new emails to your PC when your phone downloads emails aswell?
usually when something downloads emails from an POP-server it takes the emails from the server so that it's only available om the thing that downloaded the email.
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Thanks helinus but all I know is on the HD2 when it receives emails it does not alter anything on the PC's Yahoo Mail web page.
Even further, with the HD2 if you have a look at the email messages and mark them as read, when you next go to your PC the messages are still shown as new marked as unread.
This appears to be totally different with the Galaxy S.
I had a talk with my Brother who has a Desire and he says like the HD2 the email messages on the PC remain unread.
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Beards, I don't know how it is on the Yahoo email but on the Gmail Android application we go in settings and we change the sound notification.
For SMS in settings isn't there a sound notification alert setting? usually on Android there is and you click it and you decide which ringtone you want, same for email.
Try ChompSMS from the Market (along with Handcent it's the best one in my opinion)
you can customize the ringtones, etc.. and it's a very nice application for SMS (also bubble chat).
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You are so, so correct and I can not understand how on earth I missed this.
First at the Messages settings I altered the ringtone then I went to the Yahoo email settings and altered this to a different ringtone.....
Now I have different sounds for both text & email.... thanks Archius.
All I need to do now is sort out items 1, 2 & 3.
you're welcome
for item 1. you can download Chompsms or Handcent and both have a "widget/icon" that has a number next to it that indicates how many new sms you have. (or maybe you can find an app in the market that tells you how many new sms's you have, search for "sms" in the market or try different words)
For the email part, hmmmm.. I use gmail and there's an app that includes a widget for gmail with the same icon as the original while at the same time revealing how many emails we have with a number on the icon... try to find something similar for Yahoo mail ? but it won't be for the lock screen since this phone is brand new, we'll have to wait til people make applications for the phone.
part 3.. I use gmail and it has labels in the gmail app on Android and there's a separate Spam folder... not sure why Yahoo is like that :S.. same for the part where it "reads" the emails on your desktop without you reading them on the phone..
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for item 1. you can download Chompsms or Handcent and both have a "widget/icon" that has a number next to it that indicates how many new sms you have. (or maybe you can find an app in the market that tells you how many new sms's you have, search for "sms" in the market or try different words)
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Thanks, I'll have a look at what the Market can offer.
For the email part, hmmmm.. I use gmail and there's an app that includes a widget for gmail with the same icon as the original while at the same time revealing how many emails we have with a number on the icon... try to find something similar for Yahoo mail ? but it won't be for the lock screen since this phone is brand new, we'll have to wait til people make applications for the phone.
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Interesting... I have both a Gmail & Yahoo account.
I'll check out the GMail App ~ do you have a name for it?
I'll see if there's anything similar for Yahoo.
part 3.. I use gmail and it has labels in the gmail app on Android and there's a separate Spam folder... not sure why Yahoo is like that :S.. same for the part where it "reads" the emails on your desktop without you reading them on the phone..
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Yes, I see what you mean with GMail ~ it does indeed have an item in the menu named View Labels.
Interestingly there was no Spam folder though.
Also under settings, theres an item named Labels which you can select which are synchronized.
However, back at Yahoo account (for anything other than Gmail)
It's a much better looking account and has more tabs for selecting Inbox/Drafts/Sent/Trash but no Spam.
Nor is there anything in the settings to show any labels.
I suppose as you don't use Yahoo you can't really comment on Item 2 ~ ' All New Emails on a PC showing as Read'.
This one has me flummoxed.
As I mentioned to helinus it's totally different to the HD2 and even on a Desire it doesn't effect the content on the server... Simply switch on the PC, check your email messages and they are still there all marked as unread.
I wouldn't mind so much if after I had checked the messages first on the Galaxy it then marked all messages read as read but no..... You don't even have to switch the Galaxy S on to find when you go to the PC all messages are marked as read.
Right mate... must go.
I have a speech to write tonight and hopefully a little time to do a Market search or two.......
This is the application:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/se.alexanderblom.gmailunreadcount
Gmail Unread Count, simply download from market and use it as a widget (not from the app tray but from the widgets menu)
and simply set up the image to "post something" i forget the name (I no longer have my Android cell I sold it today and getting ready for galaxy s tomorrow or after tomorrow)
There are many images to choose from, my favorite is the post... because it's the same as the 2.1 version.
I was using version 1.5 of Android and I THINK there was Spam folder in Gmail hehe, I do remember it being there... would be strange if they removed it in 2.1.. I doubt it, maybe you should try to make it "sync all" for spam in the settings menu of labels.
have a good night and speech =)
cool info, somewhat similar to what i was looking for
Also, try K9Mail from the market. It is one of the BEST email apps bar none and it is free. It may provide what you are looking for - link is for appbrain.
or this?
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.jonasl.gmailnotifier2
Okay... having now had time to play with the settings and less time in theatre, with the help of friends here I've managed to sort out 1 & 4.
I didn't go with any outside Apps/Widgets. In the end I found for SMS, as soon as you switch on the phone at the lock screen if there is any text messages you get a 'jigsaw pattern' with a peace of a jigsaw taken from the complete jigsaw and marked in solid green.
As to the email notification it's now a simple matter of pulling down the Notification window at the top of the screen. It displays all emails from all accounts.
It also shows if you have any text messages as well.
All I need now to do is solve 2 & 3 but I suppose just like 1 & 4 it's a case of less theatre and more hands on the Galaxy S.
Right......
I have another query to add to the list:-
5. No Filter Support on Android Mail
On the PC I use Yahoo for mail and like other email programs it supports filters where you can add as many folders as you wish.
I have many folders which when mail comes to my yahoo account is automatically filtered to a particular folder ~ as in I have a filter marked 'Brother' where all my Brother's email gets dropped automatically into and when new mail comes in his folder it is shown in bold and indicates such with a number of how many email messages he has sent.
On Windows Mobile, i.e. the Touch HD & HD2 in particular to have the phones display mail that is sent to these filtered folders you select to Manage Folders and add them to the list of messages to download to the phone and view/reply to.
On Android i.e. the Galaxy S there does not appear to be any means of viewing these filtered folders. As such all mail sent to these folders is not received by the phone.
Therefore, does anyone know of a method like on Windows Mobile where you can display these folders?
I'll add this item 5 to my opening post so that anyone new will understand all 5 items.
Yahoo mail does not support IMAP and therefore no folders.
I once had IMAP on yahoo with old touch hd but tried and never got it back.
IMAP by nature will ALWAYS mark messages read if read on another mail host, you probably were using POP.
Mark
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Yahoo mail does not support IMAP and therefore no folders.
I once had IMAP on yahoo with old touch hd but tried and never got it back.
IMAP by nature will ALWAYS mark messages read if read on another mail host, you probably were using POP.
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Then tell me Mark how the heck does the HD2 on Windows Mobile support it?
Here's another question to add ~ Text Message Character Counting
6. Text Message Character Counting
Again on Windows Mobile Touch HD & HD2 when you went to compose a Text Message whilst you tapped away at your message it would count the characters being used.
Although most of us have an unlimited sms account I used to find this feature useful in that it at least showed me how many text messages it would be to generate the long message.
Quite often I used to try and get the character count down to a single text message quote of just 160 characters or 240 for two messages.
So, the question here is ~ how do we get Android to show the character count?
Get Chompsms or Handcent Beards to have character counting lol
now I got the phone yesterday finally !!
and yes Gmail does have Spam, and has all folders.
consider using gmail though I know you would prefer to use Yahoo..
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Get Chompsms or Handcent Beards to have character counting lol
now I got the phone yesterday finally !!
and yes Gmail does have Spam, and has all folders.
consider using gmail though I know you would prefer to use Yahoo..
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Hi Archius,
Pleased you got your Galaxy S.
I'm afraid due to my business commitments and other ties I have to use Yahoo.
Besides, why should we have to change a browser just to accommodate the Galaxy S?
I've found a 'workaround' but it's not ideal......
I've created a bookmark icon which automatically loads Internet Yahoo Mail.
At least I get to see exactly what I see on the PC.
Trouble is I've now come across another problem which I'll have to add to the list and that is replying to an email message from within the client's (Yahoo) browser. See below.
7. Replying to Yahoo Email Messages directly from the App 'Internet'
I have created a bookmark icon on the Galaxy S which automatically launches the App Internet then the bookmark Yahoo Mail.
I've noticed every time I try to reply to an email message from within the Internet yahoo client (not the Android mail App) it will not allow you to add any text.
Does anyone else have this problem?
That's a strange problem and I would not like that at all!
Try using another Internet app.
From the Market try "Dolphin"
also try "xscope"
try "opera"
"skyfire" also
try these four (start with xscope since I think it is the fastest and most stable)
and tell me how it goes =) I hope it will work out for you.
Did you try searching for an app called Yahoo? or k9mail. etc...