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So I've had my Touch "enhanced" for a bit over a week and I'm having some annoying issues regarding battery life. I'm charging this thing once at least once a day, twice a day when I'm using it a bunch. I've messed with the power settings, and the phone goes into standby after 2min. The only 3rd party software I have is touchpal, everything else is factory. I was just trying to gauge some input from other users. I did call HTC, and was greeted by an ass of a warranty tech, who, after getting my problem explained to him proceeds to ask me what I want him to do. Wow. Then he tells me that a new battery won't be instock for two weeks! How frustrating!
Thanks in advance.
You should get at least a day even with medium-heavy use. Up to two days on average.
If you install the excellent Chi-Dai Battery status plug-in then that will monitor the power drain on your battery. It will tell you if the problem is software or the battery itself.
Doctor Mick said:
You should get at least a day even with medium-heavy use. Up to two days on average.
If you install the excellent Chi-Dai Battery status plug-in then that will monitor the power drain on your battery. It will tell you if the problem is software or the battery itself.
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Thanks, I was about to download something to moniter the consumption. I'll give it a shot when I get home from school
I have the same issue with my battery. I use it for med-heavy. By the end of the day Im at like 15%. That sux.
I've installed S2U2...does this application drain the battery also?
monitoring your battery life won't do anything when you want to increase it
if you want to save battery life
it's likely that you have your wireless radio's turned on while they don't have to be,
go to your comm manager
WI-Fi drains A LOT of power and should be on only when you plan on using the internet
your GSM phone radio can also be turned off, useful when you're not in an area covered by your carrier when this happens your device panics and sends out signals to connect to the antenna tower this extra cell phone activity is bad for your battery life... and your sperm count
bluetooth takes an insignificant amount of energy to power
lastly pressing the lock button on the device is useful because it turns off the screen but keeps the device on using these features allows me to have my device unplugged for 2 days
the cheshire cat said:
monitoring your battery life won't do anything when you want to increase it
if you want to save battery life
it's likely that you have your wireless radio's turned on while they don't have to be,
go to your comm manager
WI-Fi drains A LOT of power and should be on only when you plan on using the internet
your GSM phone radio can also be turned off, useful when you're not in an area covered by your carrier when this happens your device panics and sends out signals to connect to the antenna tower this extra cell phone activity is bad for your battery life... and your sperm count
bluetooth takes an insignificant amount of energy to power
lastly pressing the lock button on the device is useful because it turns off the screen but keeps the device on using these features allows me to have my device unplugged for 2 days
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2 DAYS UNPLUGGED? Are you kidding me. On standby or using it. Im thinking this battery is horrible. If I dont plug in every night, im in trouble.
If you want to increase the lifetime, use Battery Status software and activate CPU Scaler, it's great!
Before: I used only 201Mhz freq, my battery had a lifetime of 1 day using it normally.
Now: I've overclocked it to 260Mhz with CPU Scaler activated (low: 99Mhz, average: 201, max: 260) and my touch can stay 3 days without charge need.
I still use these settings but I have a unlimited data contract with my operator, so my touch is connected all the time to Edge (push mail and weather updates), and with these settings I have to charge it every day. Don't care about this since I work with a PC all the time.
I think if I used all the time the original freq, I'd have to charge it more often...
CPU scaler
I have Battery Status ver. 0.5 but don't see CPU scaler, is it only available in the Beta version?
1 to 2 days of life with normal-full use. Up to 4-6 days in standby with almost no use
Bingoig11 said:
If you want to increase the lifetime, use Battery Status software and activate CPU Scaler, it's great!
Before: I used only 201Mhz freq, my battery had a lifetime of 1 day using it normally.
Now: I've overclocked it to 260Mhz with CPU Scaler activated (low: 99Mhz, average: 201, max: 260) and my touch can stay 3 days without charge need.
I still use these settings but I have a unlimited data contract with my operator, so my touch is connected all the time to Edge (push mail and weather updates), and with these settings I have to charge it every day. Don't care about this since I work with a PC all the time.
I think if I used all the time the original freq, I'd have to charge it more often...
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Can you please give me more info on the battery status software and cpu scaler?
Do you have an Elf or Elfin?
I've an Elfin.
Battery Status is a today plugin you can configure and use to overclock and set CPU Scaler.
Here is in attachment the version I use
Overclock and CPU Scaler are only available for OMAP processors, so for Elf/Elfin it will work.
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I've an Elfin.
Battery Status is a today plugin you can configure and use to overclock and set CPU Scaler.
Here is in attachment the version I use
Overclock and CPU Scaler are only available for OMAP processors, so for Elf/Elfin it will work.
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Can you give me some more info about how you have it configured. Most people with Elfin are having problems with this software. It seems to not work for CPU scaler. Any feedback from your experience.
PS- I have the HTC Touch enhanced unlocked.
the cheshire cat said:
monitoring your battery life won't do anything when you want to increase it
if you want to save battery life
it's likely that you have your wireless radio's turned on while they don't have to be,
go to your comm manager
WI-Fi drains A LOT of power and should be on only when you plan on using the internet
your GSM phone radio can also be turned off, useful when you're not in an area covered by your carrier when this happens your device panics and sends out signals to connect to the antenna tower this extra cell phone activity is bad for your battery life... and your sperm count
bluetooth takes an insignificant amount of energy to power
lastly pressing the lock button on the device is useful because it turns off the screen but keeps the device on using these features allows me to have my device unplugged for 2 days
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I turn off the wi-fi when I'm not at home. I'm always within service area, so the GSM radio stays. I don't use bluetooth. It's set to go into standby mode after 2mins. On Thursday, I took it off of the charger at 8:30am had a couple classes till 3pm, so light-to-medium use. It was dead by 3:30pm. I did install BatteryStatus later that night, and figured out the scaler, and it helped the next day. But honestly I shouldn't have to underclock it in order for it to last even a day, a bit ridiculous to me.
enaime said:
Can you give me some more info about how you have it configured. Most people with Elfin are having problems with this software. It seems to not work for CPU scaler. Any feedback from your experience.
PS- I have the HTC Touch enhanced unlocked.
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I have a Touch enhanced, and am using the CPU scaler just dandy. Just play with the settings a bit, and you'll get the hang of it. Try LOW:100 and HIGH:234, to start out, then go from there.
TIGman said:
So I've had my Touch "enhanced" for a bit over a week and I'm having some annoying issues regarding battery life. I'm charging this thing once at least once a day, twice a day when I'm using it a bunch. I've messed with the power settings, and the phone goes into standby after 2min. The only 3rd party software I have is touchpal, everything else is factory. I was just trying to gauge some input from other users. I did call HTC, and was greeted by an ass of a warranty tech, who, after getting my problem explained to him proceeds to ask me what I want him to do. Wow. Then he tells me that a new battery won't be instock for two weeks! How frustrating!
Thanks in advance.
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Visit the Kaiser forum. We're having the same issue. GPS seems to be the problem with me. As soon as I turned on GPS, it sucked my battery 5% in 5-7 minutes. Then down to 73% from 97% in 3 hours.
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Can you give me some more info about how you have it configured. Most people with Elfin are having problems with this software. It seems to not work for CPU scaler. Any feedback from your experience.
PS- I have the HTC Touch enhanced unlocked.
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I didn't configure anything particular, just installed it and set the overclock and CPU Scaler.
I talk an average of 2 hours daily. Since 6 am until 8 pm. I always get home with 15% or less. Using batt status with omap overclocking to 247. Average use of pda also.
Bingoig11 said:
I've an Elfin.
Battery Status is a today plugin you can configure and use to overclock and set CPU Scaler.
Here is in attachment the version I use
Overclock and CPU Scaler are only available for OMAP processors, so for Elf/Elfin it will work.
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Right on brotha. It worked great! I was wondering whats the lowest low you can use to conserve battery? Im at 98-low 247-high, using CPU scaler.
enaime said:
Right on brotha. It worked great! I was wondering whats the lowest low you can use to conserve battery? Im at 98-low 247-high, using CPU scaler.
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Im on 87/201/247 and boost to 260MHz, everything works fine, only some flickering when it runs on 87MHz..
But the battery life is quite good as it lasts for 2 to 3 days (light to medium usage, some texts, some phone calls, seldom Wifi)..
I have to say that the stock battery lasts much less then the one I got from Brando.. although the amperage is the same
I finally use xcpuscalar only for conserving battery, not for overclock. In another threads some people suffering from spotted, patched even broken LCDs and I do not take the risk to overclock Elfin because of possible overheat of the CPU and the CPU is most likely very close to the LCD due to the thinness of the Elfin. If the CPU is hotter overclocked than it is on normal speed it could cause spot, patch or even damage on LCD. This is my opinion.
Xcpuscalar is able to downgrade dynamically the CPU speed against Batterystatus which is only able to set one speed for the CPU, that's why I chosen xcpuscalar.
It seems to work fine even after soft reset... but 87MHz is very slow for me... it speeds up very sluggish. I use 169, 182 and 195MHz settings.
Will see the energy spare on the battery.
I've had my Hero since October. I've been reading these forums ever since I bought it. I keep reading about people switching from one rom to another, discussing battery life changes. Some people are stating they only have to charge their battery every two days, or get 16+ hours of heavy use on a charge. I'm on my 3rd rom, having tried Modaco, Fresh 1.0, and Fresh 1.1. I am now runnning Fresh 1.1 + Gumbo + SetCPU.
I work for Sprint. Advanced Tech Support. I work 13 hour days. I get to work, I turn off the mobile internet connection on my phone. I disable background data. In my SetCPU, I set it to powersave mode Min 245 Max 485. (Those might not be the exact numbers, at work can't check, but you get the idea.) After 13 1/2 hours, I go out and my battery is giving me the >15% remaining warning. I've maybe missed two calls and recieved 8 txts. On my off days, I wake up, take the phone off charge, and do a moderate amount of txting. I play a little music while im playing Xbox, maybe open the browser to check a game FAQ or walkthrough. Within about 3 hours of waking up I'm below 50%. If I'm planning on going to the bar to shoot pool I have to make sure my battery is fully charged, or if anyone is trying to get in touch with my I won't know cause I'm at the bar for 5+ hours txting and talking, and my phone will have died if not 100% charged. So...
I read that running Fresh 1.1+ Gumbo + SetCPU would greatly increase my battery life. Tried it. haven't noticed a change. I don't use task killers, I don't run apps, I think I've downloaded 9 apps from the market in 5 months. I use Shortcovers (Ebook reader). Dolphin browser, Handcent sms. Thats about it.
Is there a viable solution here? Does anyone have any troubleshooting steps to recommend, apps that might help, do a complete wipe and re-install Fresh and Gumbo? Change settings in CPU? I've been reading about Mugen and other batteries, any recommendations on which one would be best to try out? I love my phone, and I don't do anything to it without reading up on these forums first, just looking for any advice to not have to stay tethered to an AC outlet all day. Thanks.
fresh 1.1 + the less aggressive gumbo kernel will help alot. you don't need setcpu at all. i also recommend looking into a bigger extended battery, one that doesn't require the use of another back cover.
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I've had my Hero since October.
I work for Sprint. Advanced Tech Support. I work 13 hour days. I get to work, I turn off the mobile internet connection on my phone. I disable background data. In my SetCPU,
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It really sounds like you have a background task that is running and not letting your phone sleep. I turn off mobile internet at night (so I don't get bugged with Tweets and other alerts) and my battery drops 3-4% overnight (7-8 hours while sleeping). What is your awake time?
On a full charge, I can go all day (7am - 10pm) and still have more than 30% left. I have 2 email accounts, each set to sync every 30 minutes, a twitter app set to sync every 15 minutes, and I don't use weather or location services. I think a lot of people experience poor battery life due to signal quality. I get really good signals at home and a fairly decent signal at work as long as I say out of the lower (basement) floors.
-Daryel
Here's my experience with my HTC Hero from H3G (Three) UK:
Had the phone for about 2 weeks now, battery lasts me easily 1 day with quite heavy use (30-60 min GPS, 2-3 hours browsing, installing programs, 30 min music, some texting and talking. I know that for some of you guys out there this might be 'light' usage, but I believe for all of this, battery life is quite good, better than my friends' Iphones. With moderate use i get through 2 days of usage. I am just experimenting with turning off Mobile Internet, have had the phone running for 60 hrs + and my battery is at 65%, I've been turning wifi on for a few minutes a couple of times and have been talking and moderate texting during this time. I intend to leave Mobile internet off until the battery runs out of power to see how much time I get out of it. I never turn the phone off at night. I am amazed what a big difference turning off Mobile Internet does.
The OP clearly states that he downloads / runs minimal apps, and asking a Sprint advanced tech if his phone is sleeping, while a nice gesture, isn't terribly practical. I hope.
I think that there are certain phones that don't scale with GCK or a change in the CPU governor very well. I have bounced around to every ROM available, flashed and reflashed, cleared boot and dalvik caches and played with about every governor / frequency setting imaginable. With all that, all I can conclude is that my personal phone does significantly worse when the governor isn't MSM7K and drains downright terrible under GCK's stripped governors on anything other than MSM7K. Even Powersave (which OP referenced) drains my phone significantly faster than MSM7K.
I'd recommend you keep your current GCK install and adjust SetCPU to MSM7K to min 245 max 480. Then enable Profiles > Sleep > min 160 max 245. For a bit more performance when your phone is awake slide your normal max to 528; add significant performance by sliding normal min to 480. See if that helps any.
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The OP clearly states that he downloads / runs minimal apps, and asking a Sprint advanced tech if his phone is sleeping, while a nice gesture, isn't terribly practical. I hope.
I think that there are certain phones that don't scale with GCK or a change in the CPU governor very well. I have bounced around to every ROM available, flashed and reflashed, cleared boot and dalvik caches and played with about every governor / frequency setting imaginable. With all that, all I can conclude is that my personal phone does significantly worse when the governor isn't MSM7K and drains downright terrible under GCK's stripped governors on anything other than MSM7K. Even Powersave (which OP referenced) drains my phone significantly faster than MSM7K.
I'd recommend you keep your current GCK install and adjust SetCPU to MSM7K to min 245 max 480. Then enable Profiles > Sleep > min 160 max 245. For a bit more performance when your phone is awake slide your normal max to 528; add significant performance by sliding normal min to 480. See if that helps any.
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Could just be the different experiences folks receive with the Hero but when I used SetCPU to create profiles, I saw much higher battery drain. Once again, may have just been my experience but battery runs much better without profiles on my device.
Thanks for the response. And yes, my phone does sleep. I checked Spare Parts, and my most used app is Lightning Bug (use it when I sleep at night. I live in the hood and it covers up the radios and dogs barking.) After that it's Shortcovers (my ebook reader.) and then Handcent. So no abnormal program activity. Lightning bug only runs while I sleep, shortcovers just when Im reading. So nothing keeping my phone awake or anything. I do have one of the first Heros, I pre-ordered and recieved it like October 10th, so it's not Google branded, if that makes a difference. I'm considering just getting another one, but after 5 months of flashing and moifying and tweaking I'm kinda attactched to my phone. I'd feel like I was trading in my wife. So I guess I'll just go for an after market battery. Any more advice would be great. Thanks again.
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Could just be the different experiences folks receive with the Hero but when I used SetCPU to create profiles, I saw much higher battery drain. Once again, may have just been my experience but battery runs much better without profiles on my device.
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Personally I'm on Modaco 2.2. Pulled mocaco.sh and changed the governor from "performance" to "msm7k" and pushed it back to the phone. No compcache, but I did include the internal task killer call in compcache.sh. Read thru either the Modaco 2.2 thread or GCK if you need help.
I'm having the same results as you. I have a non-"with google" Hero200, and my battery life absolutely sucks.
Today, took it off the charger at about 10:30, now at 3:30 it was down to 20% battery.
this was leaving mobile data on and a few text messages.
How exactly do you choose how often you want email to sync? I tried finding that in the settings menu of the Gmail app, but there's nothing there about that, just signatures and such.
I am running gumbo 1.5c bare, so it's quick (no sense UI) but battery is just as bad as with sense.
I'm not running setCPU or anything, just gbhil's kernel (i think?)
I'm about ready to spring for an 1800 mAh battery
dangit
Hate to say it, but I'm glad im nota lone on this one. Misery loves company.
I'm gettin tired of reading about people claiming they get 2 days of moderate use out a hero without charging, with a stock battery. "Oh, with this new rom I just tried, after 12 hours I was below 50%, this is unacceptable, I can normally go 2 days without charging." WTF? Did they just build a choice few heros with super batteries? Just wondering.
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Hate to say it, but I'm glad im nota lone on this one. Misery loves company.
I'm gettin tired of reading about people claiming they get 2 days of moderate use out a hero without charging, with a stock battery. "Oh, with this new rom I just tried, after 12 hours I was below 50%, this is unacceptable, I can normally go 2 days without charging." WTF? Did they just build a choice few heros with super batteries? Just wondering.
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Lol, sorry man (I'm guessing you read my post at one point, 12 hours to 50%, it really did annoy me lol). I CAN get 2 days using Fresh 1.1, gumbo kernel, and SetCPU. Granted, I don't use my phone nearly as much as a lot of the people on here, but I also sit in areas with little to no service for most of my time, which can have a drastic effect on battery life.
rt1oo said:
I'm having the same results as you. I have a non-"with google" Hero200, and my battery life absolutely sucks.
Today, took it off the charger at about 10:30, now at 3:30 it was down to 20% battery.
this was leaving mobile data on and a few text messages.
How exactly do you choose how often you want email to sync? I tried finding that in the settings menu of the Gmail app, but there's nothing there about that, just signatures and such.
I am running gumbo 1.5c bare, so it's quick (no sense UI) but battery is just as bad as with sense.
I'm not running setCPU or anything, just gbhil's kernel (i think?)
I'm about ready to spring for an 1800 mAh battery
dangit
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OUCH. I unplugged mine at 9am, it's now nearly 4, and I'm only down to 80%. Had WiFi on all morning, and mobile on from noon on. Sent a dozen texts, and read a half dozen emails (syncs every 15 min). Mobile data SHOULD sleep when your phone goes to sleep, and I think it'll turn on when your accounts/email sync. Same thing with WiFi.
I'm amazed at the massive variation in battery life people have. I wonder if there were a few different manufacturers of batteries, and that's causing the problem.
But I cant even bring my phone into the building so it sits in my glovebox with all data services off and no apps running for 13 hours and its at ten percent when I get off work. I just don't get it. I think I'm gonna wipe, reflash Fresh 1.1, reflash Gumbo, and start over.
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But I cant even bring my phone into the building so it sits in my glovebox with all data services off and no apps running for 13 hours and its at ten percent when I get off work. I just don't get it. I think I'm gonna wipe, reflash Fresh 1.1, reflash Gumbo, and start over.
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Wow, it sounds more like something might be wrong with your battery.
I could turn everything off on mine, and leave it sit in an area with decent service, and probably get over 2 days out of it...so that just seems odd. Are you running SetCPU? That'll help. Set it at either 160 or 245 min, and 528 max. "On Demand" seems to be working the best for me. It'll basically drop your processor speed when the phone's asleep, and bring it back up when you need it.
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It really sounds like you have a background task that is running and not letting your phone sleep. I turn off mobile internet at night (so I don't get bugged with Tweets and other alerts) and my battery drops 3-4% overnight (7-8 hours while sleeping). What is your awake time?
On a full charge, I can go all day (7am - 10pm) and still have more than 30% left. I have 2 email accounts, each set to sync every 30 minutes, a twitter app set to sync every 15 minutes, and I don't use weather or location services. I think a lot of people experience poor battery life due to signal quality. I get really good signals at home and a fairly decent signal at work as long as I say out of the lower (basement) floors.
-Daryel
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+1 on this. While I understand you're a Sprint tech, it's still good to check the awake time, as it's a good indicator that something's awry. You said you run minimal apps, do you run any weather apps at all? Had some bad luck with those. Also, do you roam? I know setting it to Sprint Only helped me at home, and this is what you suggest to ppl everyday, so I'm not telling you anything, but some of the things we KNOW to be absolutely true can be wrong under our noses sometimes because we're so sure. Double check everything again.
I know it's painful to think of this as a viable solution, but there absolutely IS a way to determine if it's apps or not. I've had great luck with Fresh 1.1 AND Gumbo 1.5b. SetCPU and Gumbo Kernel made it even better.
Try this: Install either Gumbo or Fresh 1.1, the Gumbo Kernel, and setCPU (that one is optional for you I suppose, but I'd recommend it)
Don't install a single app or widget for the first day. Not a single one. Leave it for 24 hours, and see the battery life. (exceptions for apps that don't run in the background or connect for data or updates)
Then install them one by one until you find your culprit. This is how I found the weather widget was sucking the life out of my hero.
I too, have a non "with google" hero 200, and I have GREAT battery life, and even had great battery life on Fresh 1.1 when I had near 80 apps installed.
I'd bet money it's something in the background. I can speak a lot for Fresh 1.1 as I've used it the most. Great ROM, great battery life.
Btw, I also have two email accounts, one Exchange, one Gmail, BOTH set to "as items arrive" and I still can go from morning to bed on a charge with no probs.
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To echo Tatonka_hero, I also recommend doing the ondemand 528/245 as it worked really well for me. I got even better battery life when going that route than before, although I was never complaining about battery life in the first place.
my opinion.. it has to be something due to the signal strength.
I wonder if there is a way.. to check and monitor how often the phone looses tower contact? Then it has to try to find the next tower available, then has to bounce back to the closer one when it pops up? Is it constantly, jumping from one week signal to the next?
Which would keep the radio up and running... while the phone itself looks asleep.
Just me guessing.. with no Knowledge to base this off of.
I don't use any weather apps. A list of every app I have that didnt come with the phone:
Handcent
Shortcovers
Lightning Bug
Gensoid
GBCoid
Spare Parts
Terminal
ES File Explorer
SetCPU
I know you guys are really stuck on the idea that I'm running some intresting app, but I'm sorry to dissapoint. I wiped the phone, flashed Modaco, wiped, flashed Fresh 1.0, wiped, flashed Fresh 1.1, wiped, flashed gumbo. And then I re-downloaded the apps above. I work 7 days a week, I like to read Ebooks before I go to bed, I use lightning bug when I sleep, and if I'm riding with someone I play my emulators. Thats the story of my phone use. Also listen to music if I take a day off and im playing xbox. Theres nothing running in the background. I always have at lest 3-4 bars of signal strength. I turn off mobile network (data) when not using it. I keep my GPS off. I check Spare Parts, and everything in there is pretty much correct. My phones awake time is about 20%, if that. haven't checked in a couple days. So, tonight I'm gonna wipe, re-install Fresh 1.1, re-install Gumbo, and see if that helps at all. Is there any kind of consensus on the best settings for setCPU to save my battery?
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I don't use any weather apps. A list of every app I have that didnt come with the phone:
Handcent
Shortcovers
Lightning Bug
Gensoid
GBCoid
Spare Parts
Terminal
ES File Explorer
SetCPU
I know you guys are really stuck on the idea that I'm running some intresting app, but I'm sorry to dissapoint. I wiped the phone, flashed Modaco, wiped, flashed Fresh 1.0, wiped, flashed Fresh 1.1, wiped, flashed gumbo. And then I re-downloaded the apps above. I work 7 days a week, I like to read Ebooks before I go to bed, I use lightning bug when I sleep, and if I'm riding with someone I play my emulators. Thats the story of my phone use. Also listen to music if I take a day off and im playing xbox. Theres nothing running in the background. I always have at lest 3-4 bars of signal strength. I turn off mobile network (data) when not using it. I keep my GPS off. I check Spare Parts, and everything in there is pretty much correct. My phones awake time is about 20%, if that. haven't checked in a couple days. So, tonight I'm gonna wipe, re-install Fresh 1.1, re-install Gumbo, and see if that helps at all. Is there any kind of consensus on the best settings for setCPU to save my battery?
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Thanks for the detailed reply...it helps us get a better picture of your habits.
That being said, use the ondemand 528/245 and you should be just fine. Make sure to set it to save those settings on reboot too, because setCPU used to (not sure if it still does) set itself to performance mode on reboot otherwise which would definitely drain your battery.
alright this is probably a stupid question but how do i check awake time with spare parts? is it under battery history? then is it partial wake usage option?
And is Locale.apk known to be a battery hog...I feel like it might be...ouch.
rt1oo said:
alright this is probably a stupid question but how do i check awake time with spare parts? is it under battery history? then is it partial wake usage option?
And is Locale.apk known to be a battery hog...I feel like it might be...ouch.
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It's just under Settings > About Phone > Status then all the way down
Hello Everyone!
I made this thread hoping I can shed some light to those getting very poor battery life. I was also getting very poor battery life, till I went and exchanged my phone for a new one. If you're getting very poor battery life (even after wiping your phone or installing a clean firmware), there is definitely something wrong with your phone or your battery.
I own a i9000m bought from Wireless Wave. I've unlocked the phone and am now using it on Rogers.
My previous phone, I was draining 25% of my battery to just get through 6 hours of standby while I slept. I had juice defender on and autokiller memory optimizer. I turned off all syncing and didn't even use a live wallpaper. My phone was rooted and also had lagfix (which I soon removed). One thing I do remember doing is not charging to 100% when I first got the phone. I did accidentally let it drain to 0% cause I had to use it right away.
After exchanging for a new phone and charging it to 100% right away, I was getting the following results. I have juice defender and nothing else. I changed my band to be WCDMA only. I even have a live wallpaper on. Last night my phone idled for 9 hours and it only drained 2%! Last night going out, I had a moderate to heavy (fbook, 3g, gps, text, youtube) usage pattern on my phone and it only drained 40% after 6 hours of use.
I don't know what else to say, but I'm letting those with battery problems know that the SGS is capable of great battery life. And if all your optimizing and tweaks aren't doing it, then you may want to consider exchanging for a new phone if you still have warranty.
I have a great battery life too in my device compared too the another smartphone i used in the past and now compared to Ip4 and N8 in this devices the bat drain is much higher. So im positive surprised with
the galaxy battery performance, i only use the push email everything else is turned off, livewallpaper and so on..
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My phone came with JM7 firmware. My battery life is just excellent, not needing a recharge before a few days with my use
Running JPM here, with darkyy's raw metal ROM, my battery life went up by at least 40% - %50. I was losing 1% per 5 - 10minutes of usage, now its more upwards of half an hour of usage.
I think the phone has very good battery life if you understand what can cause battery drain and adjust it accordingly.
I am now gettining 5% drain per 24 hours on (almost) standby. This would give me about 20 days of standby which is crazy.
Here is my setup:
UK 16 Gb Galaxy S with Eclair JM6 and Voodoo lagfix
Set network to GSM (2g)
Disable internet usage (with APNDroid)
Disable WIFI, Sync Off, GPS Off (with power widgets)
Just before I go to bed, I run Advanced Task Killer and kill anything that doesn't need to be on memory (inlcuding Advanced Task Killer itself).
Using your phone WILL spend a lot of battery. Browsing the internet on 3g is a battery killer. This means that if you do something on your phone that maintains an active 3g connection, it WILL drain your battery in about 3-6 depending on your 3g coverage.
WIFI is better, but again you are looking at something between 6-12 hours of continuous usage, so make sure you only use it when you need it.
Finally, if you need to have your emails the instance they arrive, go for a blackberry because it has the only way of pushing email without maintaining a constant data connection.
I don't need this so I am extremely happy with my phone and the battery life I can get out of it.
I hope this helps.
Have my phone set for 2G with wifi always on.
Use wifi at home.
2G is enough for all normal syncs, and if I need more speed for anything else I temporarily switch to 3G for that.
This way a single charge last me well over 24h under normal usage. Don't even know exactly how much.
With the phone set to 3G, the same usage patern will eat a full charge in something like 8h.
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JPM Rom with everything except bluetooth turned on my battery lasted 3 days with low usage (skype a few times and some phone calls and a bit of wifi web-browsing.)
Much better than my wife's iPhone 4... Normally charge it every 2 days.
I am very happy with the phone, just a couple of bug fixes and I would really like it if Swype did some level of contextual checking of words to help minimise unnecessary corrections (perhaps they do already, but it is certainly not well implemented/sophisticated enough).
jonnie86 said:
I was also getting very poor battery life, till I went and exchanged my phone for a new one.
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Which ROM was on your old SGS and which one is on the replacement?
SyndicateXDA said:
Which ROM was on your old SGS and which one is on the replacement?
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Eclair for both. No Froyo.
what i wish to have is greater control over the phone, more easily.
Some kind of powertop GUI that let you see the power usage per process.
So you could plain uninstall apps installing ****ty services consuming the battery.
Likewise i'd like *real* control over which background services are running. I mean running an auto killer wtf? Horrible design!
I just want to switch off a service and that it doesnt start again 5 min later thank you very much.
Even the task manager is quite bad. You see last started apps but you don't know which one is running right now. And if its running and backgrounded since a while and you started other apps.. it might very well not even show up in the list anymore. Horrible design again.
Saying all that because stock the phone battery is excellent, installing a couple of popular apps kills it..
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Eclair for both. No Froyo.
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Thanks for your prompt reply. Could you check it more precisely on your current SGS? FYI: Settings -> About phone -> Baseband version and Build number or "call" *#1234# -> PDA, PHONE, CSC version numbers. Thanks in advance.
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Thanks for your prompt reply. Could you check it more precisely on your current SGS? FYI: Settings -> About phone -> Baseband version and Build number or "call" *#1234# -> PDA, PHONE, CSC version numbers. Thanks in advance.
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Baseband: I9000UGJH2
Build Number: ECLAIR.UGJH2
Kernel Version: 2.6.29 [email protected]#2
Let us know if you find out anything.
jonnie86 said:
Let us know if you find out anything.
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Sure thing. And thanks. KIES offered an update from JM1 baseband and JM2 build version. We'll see how the new ROM performs in about 3 days. Unfortunately don't have spare time to do that sooner. I suspect there's huge difference within the baseband versions.
hey guys.
i have galaxy s i9000..i also had problem of battery.my battery would hardly last 24hrs...i even switched to gsm only mode n switched off sync.but still had same prob..few days back i installed JPJPA firmware..now its wroking fine.lasts more than 35hrs...n also battery charges quickly
Is it possible that the reading on the phone is wrong? When you say you are getting 24 hours are you letting it run flat.
Alternately is it saying the battery is running low and you recharge before it goes flat?
Just wondering if the meter is simply giving incorrect information.
Been 24 hours since last recharge. Lost 6% so far. Running JP6 Froyo. Rooted. Network Data Off. During this 24 hours, just used Angry birds-30mins and ColorDict 5mins. Haven't installed any unnecessary app.
Had lost 1% on standby after 14hrs with no usage. Thats amazing. Very Happy user.
Also want to tell u guys that GPS with active Data connection and Google Maps running and display on took approx 1% of battery every 3mins.
Impossible using stock battery, this phone draws a minimum of 10% battery per hour the screen is on. Its more likely 15-20% with most peoples phone.
Your battery meter may be inaccurate, for example after flashing once my battery stayed at 100% for hours then suddenly shot down to 20%
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I use "Battery Indicator" to check my battery status.
My screen is set to turn off and lock after 30 seconds of idling. So it is quite possible to achieve the standby times listed.
Hi, how long do you have holding time of battery, when you are using wi-fi? (browsing)
Yes, it's really official , my battery life is draining like hell... I actually hope that's a battery problem or a rom problem so i could fix it cheaply, but if it is about the phone , i'm messed up .
so here it goes, i've got that htc hero i've bought from a friend so im not entirely sure if the battery is well, at least it was when it came on my hands. I had the official rom, and i cant be sure how many time did it spend without charging because i did change immediately the ROM . Now i have froydvillain 1.7.2 installed and i can say that i putted my phone on charge before i went to bed, when i woke up there was 15% gone from the battery, not so bad, i guess.. the worse became after. i did the usually stuff with it, texting, one or two calls not so much, always not using wi-fi, bluetooth or anything like that at all. not listening to music... when i arrived home there was been 16 h and 20 min and the battery was totally off. when i checked up which program was affecting battery most, and it was the screen and it was taxed as 51% of utilisation, i dont know why , there was just 1 h and 30 min of using it, and i can say the my brightness settings are automatic. Im really getting crazy, i also turned of 3g, only using 2g now to save battery, what a mess here guys. any help ?????
Model - HTC Hero
Android Version - 2.2.1
Radio - 63.18.55.06PU_6.35.15.14
Kernel - 2.6.29.6-flykernel-12a
ROM - FroydVillain 1.7.2
I have installed elelinux 6.2.0 wifi always on if not connected to 3g.screen at 8% !no bluetooth,no gps...just 2 calls,whattsapp texting and surfing during the day.100% at 8 am 50% at least in the evening.try this.as far as i know there is no memory effect with these batteries.
Try my settings or delete apps that work in the background.
Hope this helps
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Battery Calibration
Hi there,
I have 1.7.2 also and I get approx 2 days of battery life before it hits 15%. Light usage though. My display usage always seems to be approx 30-50% overall so don't worry about that just yet.
What i think you need to do is calibrate the battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Battery_Calibration
Do that and once you are on full charge, before you turn on your phone boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.
Should be all good .
Also are you running any overclock? 352-576 is more than okay and should help with battery life... Most people run it on smartass but I get screen wake-up issues with it so run it on-demand.
Give that a go then if that doesn't work come back and ask some of the smarter people for some advice as thats about all i know about battery issues.
i had setcpu installed with some settings, i already uninstalled it, i believe the settings were switched off , thats what i hope..
anyway , my battery is fully charged in 2 hours, is it normal ? it could be cracked, perfectly normal i guess. sometimes when im connected to wi-fi , it starts decreasing the battery level and i watch it lol, 71 , 70 , 69.... thats really strange in due that i see people using 2 days or 3 with normal usage. i believe that's nothing about the rom, im going to do that , im going to calibrate and wipe, text u as soon as possible to tell u the results
9unk, should i use the setcpu with those setting to save battery, im order to obligate te phone to use those settings, or should i just let it default ?
How did this survive in /dev
Also check any background processes.
My hero sometimes just drains like hell untill restart it (as I haven't found out which app yet) .
i believe there are no background apps , but if there is , how could i close it ?
Try calibrating your battery. VillainRom have a guide on it in their guides section.
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i had setcpu installed with some settings, i already uninstalled it, i believe the settings were switched off , thats what i hope..
anyway , my battery is fully charged in 2 hours, is it normal ? it could be cracked, perfectly normal i guess. sometimes when im connected to wi-fi , it starts decreasing the battery level and i watch it lol, 71 , 70 , 69.... thats really strange in due that i see people using 2 days or 3 with normal usage. i believe that's nothing about the rom, im going to do that , im going to calibrate and wipe, text u as soon as possible to tell u the results
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i just want to note something, here you say you are fully charge in 2 hours, thats strange, mine are 4-5hours charge before its full.
in my experience with all is ON, i got 14 hours of battery life, this what i turn on:
- 3G Data is always on, no time schedule, it on all the time.
- Mail (3 account) and Gmail (1 account), (always on, with 15mnt refresh freq)
- Gtalk and Yahoo messenger (always on, cant live w/o it)
- LauncherPro Friends Widget (Facebook and Twitter, always on, with 15mnt refresh freq)
- Weather with Fancy Widget (always on, with 1hour refresh freq)
- Battery Widget
- Game NFS Shift 3D (15mnt a day, is a must, very love the game)
- Browsing (average 2 hours a day)
- and other normal process and background process (network location, contact sync, etc)
can you describe what is you use in your phone and please detail how much hours you get with your hero??
Mine was also draining like a hell , but i let it switch off for one day and now it works great . try that might it will help you
I had similar problems. Very frustrating indeed, but easily corrected.
Calibrate your battery using the above thread. Usually this takes a while, but sounds like it will be quick for you. Follow it closely and carefully.
Install setcpu and start with a conservative governor at 576/176. That alone should give you a day between charges. Play with these settings until you find something you're comfortable with.
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about the screen, i have 5 screens, one has the calendar with my schedule dates, other has youtube and music app, the main one has beautiful widgets that only update 3 in 3 hours, the other has people widget and last one has just power control widget. I believe this is not too much, for instance i already calibrated my battery and look at my stats today :
Activity time : around 17h
apps tha use battery most :
display 41% (45m e 25s);
inactivity of the phone 18% ( 15h e 30 min )
inactived phone 16% (14h e 44 min )
Media Server 11% (14min e 53 s)
the best of this is when im texting there is nothing about the battery when i start to listen to music i can watch my battery drainly constantly, like 59,58,57 per minute sensivily. is there anyway that my battery is cracked or something ? or is just my settings ? i believe i have set all up to save power, i also set up my screen to minimum stats. another thing that i might let clear is that my phone really charges all up from 0 to 100 in 2 hours, really strange that sometime it stucks on 77 for instance other times is draining and draining and it kills me watching other people using 2 days battery with more apps than me
i dont know if this is important or not , my battery drains 6 % on rebooting , dont know if it is normal or not, but im totally sure , aint normal to got all the battery drain in 17 hours with normal using... please i appreciate any kind of help
If you had calibrated your battery, and if you already had uninstalled all the apps that drain your battery quickly, but still no improvements, I suggest you to try the following things:
_ Change rom (I had a lot of problems too with battery life on FroydVillain, I personally recommend Elelinux 6.2 RC, I got an amazing battery life)
_ Make sure you have Update your Radio to the latest version:
http://www.villainrom.co.uk/forum/s...adio-Roms-Download-Links&highlight=hero+radio
_ Try different Kernels, if you are currently overclocking your Phone, I use flykernel 12a, but the 11c is excellent as well for battery life
_ Use sometimes, not set it automatically, some task killer like Advanced task Killer Froyo from the market, to kill sometimes too many running apps.
Make sure to flash the new rom when your battery is full, then recalibrate it again like other suggest you already on this thread.
I personally notice that, when you calibrate your battery, takes a week or more to see improvements on the battery life, so be patient!
Its good as well to restart your new rom fews times to reach the full potential...
Then, when you set up your rom for the first time DISABLE google backup, I've been told that drains battery like hell, don't set the brightness on automatic mode, but just leave it as less as you can, it will helps.
It would be better also to go to setting, under sync, and leave on the automatic sync mode only for the apps that you really need to run..
If none of this will work, if you have can, I would think to buy a new battery, I checked in an official HTC store once and I found it at 30 pounds...
I don't think I have anymore suggestions, I hope it will help you...
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i believe there are no background apps , but if there is , how could i close it ?
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To close an app or clear cache or data go to:
settings>applications>manage applications>running>
and choose the apps you want to close..
I found a major battery killer is an area with no reception.
So if I know I'll be there a while, I'll put my phone on airplane mode to stop it constantly scanning for a signal.
Today i really noticed something strange about battery, i let it charge when it was off. Ive turnee it on, browsed over the internet and it was stuck at 100 % for 30 minutes, than it decreased for 96 in 5 min..
i went to sleep ( turned wifi off ) 6 hours later it was in 77 % ;( and the best part, i reboot it and it get in 51 someone got a help
Paulopax said:
Today i really noticed something strange about battery, i let it charge when it was off. Ive turnee it on, browsed over the internet and it was stuck at 100 % for 30 minutes, than it decreased for 96 in 5 min..
i went to sleep ( turned wifi off ) 6 hours later it was in 77 % ;( and the best part, i reboot it and it get in 51 someone got a help
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That sounds about normal for most ROMs I've used
LG G3 Screen on Time Discussion
Greetings all.
Firstly, this is not a thread to discuss resolution changing! There are several of those already and it has been established that it does not have a viable effect on battery life!
I started this thread as I thought we could use a useful thread which we will discuss SOLEY (SOT) screen on time. After sifting through the rather disorganised battery life discussions I was left with mixed ideas of what a general screen on time for the LG G3 was. There are of course several of these battery threads, but as they all talk about all aspects of battery life, standby included, I thought it would be nice to get some ideas of SOT congregating in one thread.
Format
First of all there needs to be a format in which we standardise our discussion. If you are going to post complaining about SOT or saying how great your SOT is please format your post like so. I propose the following.
Model:
Rom and Version/Kernel:
Modem/Baseband:
Carrier/Country:
GPS:
WIFI:
Data (4g/3g/2g/none):
Explanation of use/modifications:
Screenshots (3% or below):
Would you please state in the explanation, your use of battery saving apps such as Greenify, Amplify, Automatic Data toggles, Tasker, Xposed and so on. Note any messaging/email clients installed as these will have an obvious effect on SOT. What are your syncing settings? For the screen shots post any that seem interesting but a 3% or below is preferred. Mention something about your use, if it was gaming, web browsing, listening to music, or with a long period of standby time. Also please state an aproximation of your brightness settings plus any debloating that you have done, and anything else you think is of relevance!
This is the proposed format for posting. We should be able to get a fantastic database of SOT for the LG G3.
I do realise that everyone's usage differs greatly and it will vary according to brightness, location and many different factors such as how long the phone has been in standby etcetera.. But don't let that stop you posting. I will start.
My Screen on TimeModel: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: Cloudy 2.5 and kernel
Modem/Baseband: 20P
Carrier/Country: Telecom Italia
GPS: No
WIFI: No
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G on constantly
Explanation of use/modifications: Fast dormancy disabled. All the bloatware frozen with titanium back up. Whats app was the only IM installed plus skype. Screen brightness was roughly below 60% almost the whole time on auto. No gaming. Music listening for 20min, reading xda for the majority of the time, plus a bit of downtime for dinner. No greenify, amplify or data toggles. Purely let it run how it goes. Although I did have the sharpening set to disabled. My signal was around 2 bars for most of the time and my sync for everything was disabled, contacts, all google sync stuff. I had also disabled back ground data for the Google Play Store, which results in a pop up error, but this can be fixed by exiting and resarting the Play Store.
Screenshots (3% or below):
Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: EE UK
GPS: Device only
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
Pure stock, debloated as much as I could. Max CPU frequency reduced to 2295, CTT mod installed and sharpening disabled. Brightness at 50%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen off and an hour of voice calls. No greenify or any kind of "battery saving" apps.
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Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: EE UK
GPS: Device only
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
Pure stock, debloated as much as I could. Max CPU frequency reduced to 2295, CTT mod installed and sharpening disabled. Brightness at 50%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen off and an hour of voice calls. No greenify or any kind of "battery saving" apps.
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Now thats inpressive. Do you live next to a cell phone tower? Or have an extended battery or what! Thats some impressive screen on time. Do you think you could get more?
This phone has such variation with SOT. More than my old S4, that had maybe 1 hour difference between users at most. But 7 hours SOT!?! What apps do you have installed/not installed. I'm going to flash your setup! That's utterly incredible!
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Now thats inpressive. Do you live next to a cell phone tower? Or have an extended battery or what! Thats some impressive screen on time. Do you think you could get more?
This phone has such variation with SOT. More than my old S4, that had maybe 1 hour difference between users at most. But 7 hours SOT!?! What apps do you have installed/not installed. I'm going to flash your setup! That's utterly incredible!
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My cell signal is normally 2-3 bars so not especially strong. Just the stock original battery, around 6 months old at this point.
I have installed nova launcher, basic Google apps, poweramp, chrome, just typical everyday stuff. Removed everything LG except quickremote and quick note.
Could probably push over 8 hours if I underclocked more and messed about with custom kernels but I want to maintain the performance and stability I have.
I don't know how you guys can get 5 hours SOT.I barely get 4 hours sot and that too only on wifi.
Location is turned off,gestures off.Bright ess always on 35%.
I use whatsapp,fb,tapatalk and youtube.Little bit of gaming.
I have a used d855 and it was from an australian carrier "Optus" but i have flashed v20u kdz,rooted and using gabriel kernel.
I don't know if it's battery have got weaker.It's one terminal has gone somewhat black but other three are fine.
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My cell signal is normally 2-3 bars so not especially strong. Just the stock original battery, around 6 months old at this point.
I have installed nova launcher, basic Google apps, poweramp, chrome, just typical everyday stuff. Removed everything LG except quickremote and quick note.
Could probably push over 8 hours if I underclocked more and messed about with custom kernels but I want to maintain the performance and stability I have.
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That is still phenomenal. I cannot comprehend having 7+ hours of SOT. It really is the only real gauge of battery life. At least for me. Idle battery drain is easily fixed by controlling wakelocks, but SOT is the main thing that I look for in a smart phone.
Before I bought this phone, which was about a week ago, I was impressed by 5 hours SOT, but knowing that this phone can have upwards of 7 hours makes me want to look into this issue more. It doesnt make sense to me. Do you have a BBS log from these screen on times?
Was your update OTA? I assume so. I currently don't have any wifi so I'm going to search for a hotspot, download the firmware from the XDA thread, flash it and see how I go. I am in Italy so it could be interesting.
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I don't know how you guys can get 5 hours SOT.I barely get 4 hours sot and that too only on wifi.
Location is turned off,gestures off.Bright ess always on 35%.
I use whatsapp,fb,tapatalk and youtube.Little bit of gaming.
I have a used d855 and it was from an australian carrier "Optus" but i have flashed v20u kdz,rooted and using gabriel kernel.
I don't know if it's battery have got weaker.It's one terminal has gone somewhat black but other three are fine.
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The gaming really kills it. The GPU has a time with the screen. At least thats what I have found. I did about 20 min of that Shark Game to test out the phone and got 5 hours + SOT by 2% remaining. Facebook wont be helping. Whatsapp doesn't seem to be a problem for me on the drain side. It drains a bit, but not alot. Also does Optus support Fast Dormancy? If not its probably best to disable it.
Remeber to post in the above format so we can start to piece together the perfect combinations!
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Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: EE UK
GPS: Device only
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
Pure stock, debloated as much as I could. Max CPU frequency reduced to 2295, CTT mod installed and sharpening disabled. Brightness at 50%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen off and an hour of voice calls. No greenify or any kind of "battery saving" apps.
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Mother of god..
asingha94 said:
Mother of god..
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That's what I thought..
Wow guys, your phones are like beasts. I've never ever have gotten 4hr+ SOT on my G3. Nowadays I usually get 2,5 hrs with 40+ hrs of total battery time. I have no idea how you're doing it. I've tried to find the culprit, but everything seems normal. Atleast that's what apps tell me. Can you please help me find the issue? Give me tips?
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Wow guys, your phones are like beasts. I've never ever have gotten 4hr+ SOT on my G3. Nowadays I usually get 2,5 hrs with 40+ hrs of total battery time. I have no idea how you're doing it. I've tried to find the culprit, but everything seems normal. Atleast that's what apps tell me. Can you please help me find the issue? Give me tips?
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Post in the format from my first post and we can compare and see how we can help!
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Post in the format from my first post and we can compare and see how we can help!
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Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: Telenor HU
GPS: Off
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
CloudyG3 v2.5, fast dormancy disabled. Max CPU frequency left as is, No CTT mod sharpening disabled. Brightness at 30%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen of as well as watching Youtube. I'm also using facebook messenger, google hangouts and skype sometimes. No battery saving apps.
Zunex95 said:
Wow guys, your phones are like beasts. I've never ever have gotten 4hr+ SOT on my G3. Nowadays I usually get 2,5 hrs with 40+ hrs of total battery time. I have no idea how you're doing it. I've tried to find the culprit, but everything seems normal. Atleast that's what apps tell me. Can you please help me find the issue? Give me tips?
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Zunex95 said:
Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: Telenor HU
GPS: Off
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
CloudyG3 v2.5, fast dormancy disabled. Max CPU frequency left as is, No CTT mod sharpening disabled. Brightness at 30%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen of as well as watching Youtube. I'm also using facebook messenger, google hangouts and skype sometimes. No battery saving apps.
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And you say you are getting around 4 hours SOT? So you are running Cloudy like me, I'm not entirely sure yet, but it seems to me that it could infact be worse than some versions of stock, for screen on time. I'm currently out of Wifi so I have not yet had the chance to flash the 20U stock. I want to try it with my exact set up and see how I go.
That is strange, 4 hours SOT. It's not alot. I have auto sync disabled, along with every google syncing aplication under accounts disabled so nothing syncs. I also disabled back ground data for the Google Play store, which causes an abort dialog sometimes, but it is easily fixed by exiting the app, swiping it from recents and starting it again.
I also have my 3G set to only 3G whichvis annoyingly changed to auto on a reboot. But this certainly helps. As for modems how is your cell signal battery consumption under stock battery info? Whats your period of no signal? Of course, all those messaging apps probably ruin your SOT as most of them are polling all the time, at least try congregating all your messaging into one app, and make sure that app isn't messenger.
Also are you sure your carrier doesn't support FD? Are you getting massive phone wakelocks when FD is enabled?
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And you say you are getting around 4 hours SOT? So you are running Cloudy like me, I'm not entirely sure yet, but it seems to me that it could infact be worse than some versions of stock, for screen on time. I'm currently out of Wifi so I have not yet had the chance to flash the 20U stock. I want to try it with my exact set up and see how I go.
That is strange, 4 hours SOT. It's not alot. I have auto sync disabled, along with every google syncing aplication under accounts disabled so nothing syncs. I also disabled back ground data for the Google Play store, which causes an abort dialog sometimes, but it is easily fixed by exiting the app, swiping it from recents and starting it again.
I also have my 3G set to only 3G whichvis annoyingly changed to auto on a reboot. But this certainly helps. As for modems how is your cell signal battery consumption under stock battery info? Whats your period of no signal? Of course, all those messaging apps probably ruin your SOT as most of them are polling all the time, at least try congregating all your messaging into one app, and make sure that app isn't messenger.
Also are you sure your carrier doesn't support FD? Are you getting massive phone wakelocks when FD is enabled?
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4 hours of SOT would be awesome for me. As I said it's only 2,5 hours nowadays. I got Gmail syncing all the time as it's essential for my work. There isn't any time without signal but the phone idle and cell standby is right under the screen in consumption with 10-15% each. My phone sleeps well, almost no battery usage while the screen is off. But as soon as I turn on the screen it goes crazy and consumes battery like mad. Messenger must be a huge battery drain but I used to have the 4 hrs of SOT even 5 on lighter days with messenger. I don't think my carrier support FD. It's a small country without any really advanced tech.
Zunex95 said:
4 hours of SOT would be awesome for me. As I said it's only 2,5 hours nowadays. I got Gmail syncing all the time as it's essential for my work. There isn't any time without signal but the phone idle and cell standby is right under the screen in consumption with 10-15% each. My phone sleeps well, almost no battery usage while the screen is off. But as soon as I turn on the screen it goes crazy and consumes battery like mad. Messenger must be a huge battery drain but I used to have the 4 hrs of SOT even 5 on lighter days with messenger. I don't think my carrier support FD. It's a small country without any really advanced tech.
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Well it seems to me that your problem would be your modem/baseband/radio. If cell standby is up there with screen, I would assume that your phone doesn't have great reception. I say this because, supposing you have your screen off for a long period yet the radio isn't communicating that much data, but then once you turn the screen on, I'm going to assume that you are using the internet for browsing or responding to emails, messages ect? I would think that this would mean the phone must send alot more data with a bad signal, which could suggest why your standby times are fine and you SOT times aren't so good. 3G is definetly the way to go for SOT, you have no chance on 4G. Try enabling FD and seeing if phone starts having wakelocks in Better Battery Stats.
I also advise that you swap out Gmail for something a bit less ruthlessly active on the syncing side of things. I use stock, some people like others like cloudmagic, but there are a billion so try them out. Something that you can at least customise more to be push or pull and not syncing every 5 min. You can probably also disable all of the google account syncing tasks. Download greenify, and it has a setting there that allows you to see all the hidden Google services syncing tasks under accounts. I find that is one of the best things about Greenify. I don't use it for freezing apps, but that setting helps stop your phone syncing every second. For example who cares about chrome bookmarks syncing? Not me.
Edit: Sorry I just read that again. 2.5 hours S0T. That is utterly horrendous. Attach a BBS log.
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Well it seems to me that your problem would be your modem/baseband/radio. If cell standby is up there with screen, I would assume that your phone doesn't have great reception. I say this because, supposing you have your screen off for a long period yet the radio isn't communicating that much data, but then once you turn the screen on, I'm going to assume that you are using the internet for browsing or responding to emails, messages ect? I would think that this would mean the phone must send alot more data with a bad signal, which could suggest why your standby times are fine and you SOT times aren't so good. 3G is definetly the way to go for SOT, you have no chance on 4G. Try enabling FD and seeing if phone starts having wakelocks in Better Battery Stats.
I also advise that you swap out Gmail for something a bit less ruthlessly active on the syncing side of things. I use stock, some people like others like cloudmagic, but there are a billion so try them out. Something that you can at least customise more to be push or pull and not syncing every 5 min. You can probably also disable all of the google account syncing tasks. Download greenify, and it has a setting there that allows you to see all the hidden Google services syncing tasks under accounts. I find that is one of the best things about Greenify. I don't use it for freezing apps, but that setting helps stop your phone syncing every second. For example who cares about chrome bookmarks syncing? Not me.
Edit: Sorry I just read that again. 2.5 hours S0T. That is utterly horrendous. Attach a BBS log.
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Sorry for the delay answer and thanks for you help so far. I've tried out your Greenify tips and install a more recent version of the kernel i'm running now as it was having battery drain issues. Also I noticed someting weird in BBS. Please see my attachment.
"No or unknown signal" 100%. Is it normal? Can it be the issue?
Zunex95 said:
Sorry for the delay answer and thanks for you help so far. I've tried out your Greenify tips and install a more recent version of the kernel i'm running now as it was having battery drain issues. Also I noticed someting weird in BBS. Please see my attachment.
"No or unknown signal" 100%. Is it normal? Can it be the issue?
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Nah, I don't think so. Unless you actually have no reception? I get that too sometimes. I'm not sure if it is a bug or what it is, but if you had signal the whole time then you can probably ignore it. I had that too and wondered what it was. Never found out.
Also make sure you have your data set to 3G not auto and manually select your provider under cellphone networks. Because I have a feeling if you say you want to stay on the same one, you wont have it trying to switch when the signal gets low from that provider, it will just go to no signal. I'm not sure about your carrier, but some carriers have a switch over agreement with other carriers, which would make your signal reception reporting not entirely accurate. If you select one provider. It will always be that one provider
Here you go I will attach one of my BBS logs from when I got more than 5 hours SOT.
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Nah, I don't think so. Unless you actually have no reception? I get that too sometimes. I'm not sure if it is a bug or what it is, but if you had signal the whole time then you can probably ignore it. I had that too and wondered what it was. Never found out.
Also make sure you have your data set to 3G not auto and manually select your provider under cellphone networks. Because I have a feeling if you say you want to stay on the same one, you wont have it trying to switch when the signal gets low from that provider, it will just go to no signal. I'm not sure about your carrier, but some carriers have a switch over agreement with other carriers, which would make your signal reception reporting not entirely accurate. If you select one provider. It will always be that one provider
Here you go I will attach one of my BBS logs from when I got more than 5 hours SOT.
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No, here in Hungary there is no agreement. It will only stay on my provider. Our 4G and 2G coverage is great but the 3G one is not so. I need to have 2g on too. Usually I got 2 or 3 bars at home. While in the city it really depends. Sometimes barely any signal, then all of a sudden max bars. Maybe my battery is faulty?
Edit: Also you got No or Unknown Signal (): 11 m 21 s 2.1% while I got 100%. I need to figure this one out.
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No, here in Hungary there is no agreement. It will only stay on my provider. Our 4G and 2G coverage is great but the 3G one is not so. I need to have 2g on too. Usually I got 2 or 3 bars at home. While in the city it really depends. Sometimes barely any signal, then all of a sudden max bars. Maybe my battery is faulty?
Edit: Also you got No or Unknown Signal (): 11 m 21 s 2.1% while I got 100%. I need to figure this one out.
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Yes I noticed that too. Interesting. I suppose that you could try a new modem? Perhaps that would help your 3g signal?
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Yes I noticed that too. Interesting. I suppose that you could try a new modem? Perhaps that would help your 3g signal?
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I changed modem, now I'm waiting for results. So far better. Also I noticed one more thing. My battery charges itself overnight. I went to sleep with 50% remaining when I woke up it went up to 52%. This happens very often. Also, when I'm using it under 30% it discharges even faster. Is it the battery or it's just miscalibrated? I've tried calibrating it by draining it almost to 0 then turned it off and offline charged it until it was full. Never worked. Anymore tricks?
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I changed modem, now I'm waiting for results. So far better. Also I noticed one more thing. My battery charges itself overnight. I went to sleep with 50% remaining when I woke up it went up to 52%. This happens very often. Also, when I'm using it under 30% it discharges even faster. Is it the battery or it's just miscalibrated? I've tried calibrating it by draining it almost to 0 then turned it off and offline charged it until it was full. Never worked. Anymore tricks?
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Yeah, I noticed the exact same phenomenon actually, draining speeding up from 30%. I made a thread about it but no one took any interest. I read somewhere that perhaps LG does it to create a false sense of better battery. I would like to find the problem here though, because it is a rather annoying problem. Having inaccurate battery readings under 30% is the last thing you want. Perhaps they made it like that to make the battery saver feature seem like it is doing more than it really is?
As for charging over night I had that too on some other devices. I think it is a common bug across android or general lion batteries, because it's not uncommon to hear about. I'm sure there is a lot of discussion out there about it. Still, two percent is rather nice to gain over night without charging!
One more question, are you using the stock charger?