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Yes, its true, HTC is officially abandoning the windows platform!
What next?
SOURCE:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/18/htc_new_strategy/
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=64741
UPDATE:
Sources are confirming the adoption of the linux platform or symbian platform. Its most probably not going to take massive shape this year, but by next year we will see a significant change.
^^ Sources
register article is referring to smartphone platform only! maybe pda platform will remain with MS...
ItalianTytan said:
register article is referring to smartphone platform only! maybe pda platform will remain with MS...
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"smartphone" is generally used also for devices with touchscreen...
I think HTC is afraid of MS doing again what they have done with the media players business: they used other hardware vendors to create market perception and later they went for their own product (Zune) with a different DRM and left the "PlaysForSure" clan with cold feet.
Now that Apple has its own branded phone Microsoft will have to have a MS branded phone soon and that could mean bye bye to HTC and the other vendors, so better jump ship before it's too late.
This announcement could also be only a warning to MS; at the moment HTC is practically the only company in the world that could throw a blow at Microsoft: without HTC the MS market share in smartphones would fall to a level of insignificance and they would have to rebuild their mobile phone market share from scratch.
Btw, is there any other OS than wm6 that we can port into right now like linux or something, I really love trying stuff like this out. Is there any way to put s60 v3 or even linux onto my trinity?
AkshayGenius said:
Btw, is there any other OS than wm6 that we can port into right now like linux or something, I really love trying stuff like this out. Is there any way to put s60 v3 or even linux onto my trinity?
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There's a Linux kernel out there somewhere - iPaQ 3900 was the last device I saw it working on eons ago...
AkshayGenius,
check Hermes forum, haret supports Trinity and semi-bootable kernel exists.
Doesn't boot completely on Hermes or Trinity so far.
hope some good UI os will come out soon!
i really dont wanna buy iphone..... unless HTC can come out better UI os...
anonimo said:
"smartphone" is generally used also for devices with touchscreen...
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Not really, in terms of Windows Mobile devices and WM5, you had the Pocket PC and Smartphone edition, the latter of which is on devices without touch screen e.g. HTC Meteor, Canary, Tanager etc.
I don't know if you mean "generally" as in all devices that are smartphonish on the market - you've got a lot that's not touch screen there too e.g. N95.
El_Mariachi said:
Not really, in terms of Windows Mobile devices and WM5, you had the Pocket PC and Smartphone edition, the latter of which is on devices without touch screen e.g. HTC Meteor, Canary, Tanager etc.
I don't know if you mean "generally" as in all devices that are smartphonish on the market - you've got a lot that's not touch screen there too e.g. N95.
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With "generally" I mean what you read in market researches. When you read about the Symbian market share that includes both S60 (no touchscreen) and UIQ (touchscreen) phones. Same goes for Windows Mobile.
The term "smartphone" was not invented by microsoft (did they ever invent anything? ) and it means "phone where you can install and use third party software beyond java applets" as opposed to "feature phone" where you can only use what is preinstalled in the phone (and only add Java applets).
So can anybody make an OS which I for ex can put on my p3600 for ex.
AkshayGenius said:
Yes, its true, HTC is officially abandoning the windows platform!
What next?
SOURCE:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/18/htc_new_strategy/
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=64741
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HTC has the best position in the market because of the Windows line. When they abandone the Windows platform, they give their market share to HP for example.
HTC also knows that Microsoft integrates everything from Office, Exchange, VOIP, Sharepoint to Live, etc.
Saying one thing and do some expirements with Linux, puts the pressure on Microsoft for nice deals (cheaper OS) for more HTC profit.
I haven't looked for other sources, but, a reading of the article hardly supports the assertion that HTC is "officially abandoning" WM. I mean, the ONLY quote just says they're "looking at" other OS's.
Talk about exaggeration.
i hope they turn to Linux, any exp coder will know that M$ is a piece of **** when it comes to resources, so look forward to faster, more stable phones. On the down side is the lack of app's supporting linux, but that said, the moment it becomes a reality, I'm there....
qubit76 said:
i hope they turn to Linux, any exp coder will know that M$ is a piece of **** when it comes to resources, so look forward to faster, more stable phones. On the down side is the lack of app's supporting linux, but that said, the moment it becomes a reality, I'm there....
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Indeed so! BSD is now a reality on the iPhone - the mind boggles at how the market could look in 12 months. Mind you, I still prefer my Trinity to the iPhone but am particularly peeved that HTC haven't seen fit to officlally release WM6 for it.
LOL
WHY dont they contract with Ubuntu? make something like ubuntu mobile ??
LOL
than Iphone is ****ed.
qubit76 said:
i hope they turn to Linux, any exp coder will know that M$ is a piece of **** when it comes to resources, so look forward to faster, more stable phones. On the down side is the lack of app's supporting linux, but that said, the moment it becomes a reality, I'm there....
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If HTC would evolve a bit and embrace the 3rd party app model present on the iPhone, enhance it a bit and add support for fetching data from hardware components like gps modules, not like java, but something like Adobe® AIR™ for mobile devices with offline capabilities, that would be great foe everybody, most of the apps we use are for improving/replacing the poorly designed windows mobile apps&interface, other can be fully replaced by web apps, codewallet for example, imagine it with offline and online modes, sync between both, and you have your passwords accessible on any device or desktop, multimedia editing is also possible using flash and server-side code, like picnik.com, so, it would be necessary to create new apps, but this new model would be far better than the current one, it would also eliminate the need for manual app updating, it would... heh, make cracking impossible, so, good for the devs for that and also for the easier&cheaper development(VS not needed, html+css+flash+javascript+rails[heh ]), it would also give HTC the freedom to create a sleek GUI(compiz and stuff?) since its easier to replace the linux gui than wmobile, no licensing fees from ms i think.
ericlin0122 said:
LOL
WHY dont they contract with Ubuntu? make something like ubuntu mobile ??
LOL
than Iphone is ****ed.
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Ha Ha Haaaa... I like that
Lets all bombard the ubuntu guyz with emails demanding a mobile version of ubuntu for ppc and all then finally we'll get what we want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEA!
ericlin0122 said:
LOL
WHY dont they contract with Ubuntu? make something like ubuntu mobile ??
LOL
than Iphone is ****ed.
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Funny you should say that. Have a look at this: http://www.wired.com/software/coolapps/news/2007/07/iphoney. In the article it mentions just this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded.
So Ubuntu mobile coming in October. As soon as a good GPS navigation software release for Ubuntu comes out - I'm trying it.
Everything is new on WM7!
http://www.osnews.com/story/22877/Microsoft_Unveils_Windows_Phone_7_Series
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IOTrqlz4jo
If this place is wrong for this.. Im sorry... I would like to share with the friends form xda!
sebastianmc said:
Everything is new on WM7!
http://www.osnews.com/story/22877/Microsoft_Unveils_Windows_Phone_7_Series
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IOTrqlz4jo
If this place is wrong for this.. Im sorry... I would like to share with the friends form xda!
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Windows 7, looking forward to it and definitely my next phone will still be a Windows Mobile!
Most people are talking about it in this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633291
Just wanted to let you know. WP7S FTW!
chongbh said:
Windows 7, looking forward to it and definitely my next phone will still be a Windows Mobile!
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Yeap!! Its not time to change our OS Lets see what HTC will make on wm7. and maybe there will be a new touchFLO..
ATTENTION:
WINDOWS MOBILE 7 SERIES WOULD NOT SUPPORT 'ADOBE FLASH PLAYER'
look in this video and Play It on 02:39:22 and you see it yourself
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...eogallery.aspx
arggggg i hate windows
NO TouchFlo on WM7
sebastianmc said:
Yeap!! Its not time to change our OS Lets see what HTC will make on wm7. and maybe there will be a new touchFLO..
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As far as we’ve heard so far, the details we broke in January are spot-on. Much of the interface is very Zune like. As we said then, manufacturers will not be able to make massive modifications to Windows Phone. Microsoft specifically said that things like HTC’s TouchFlo will not exist on Windows Phone.
Just check this out: mobilecrunch first-impressions-windows-mobile-7-now-known-as-windows-phone
turborider said:
ATTENTION:
WINDOWS MOBILE 7 SERIES WOULD NOT SUPPORT 'ADOBE FLASH PLAYER'
look in this video and Play It on 02:39:22 and you see it yourself
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...eogallery.aspx
arggggg i hate windows
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but not forever as adobe said they are developing now for wm6.5 and it will be released in the future for wm7 as they hasenot developed a wm7 version yet
hoss_n2 said:
but not forever as adobe said they are developing now for wm6.5 and it will be released in the future for wm7 as they hasenot developed a wm7 version yet
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i hope so mate
turborider said:
ATTENTION:
WINDOWS MOBILE 7 SERIES WOULD NOT SUPPORT 'ADOBE FLASH PLAYER'
look in this video and Play It on 02:39:22 and you see it yourself
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...eogallery.aspx
arggggg i hate windows
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Well, Microsoft told us why. Flash on smartphones is EXTREMELY buggy, doesn't always work, and when it did work it wasn't very good quality. The only time it worked reasonably was in Skyfire, and the developers didn't get even the Flash player part from Adobe!! Although, it was nice to have the option, but at least Adobe is trying to improve it to include it with Windows Phones...eventually.
Oh, yes, and the HTC HD2's proccessor DOES support Windows Phone 7, but I don't think it has the required 4-point touch or search button (I suppose we could use the home key...).
Edit: I just found out that the HD2 has the correct minimum resolution for Windows Phone 7, WVGA.
oops, wrong thread, sorry
Really
mpscuba68 said:
As far as we’ve heard so far, the details we broke in January are spot-on. Much of the interface is very Zune like. As we said then, manufacturers will not be able to make massive modifications to Windows Phone. Microsoft specifically said that things like HTC’s TouchFlo will not exist on Windows Phone.
Just check this out: mobilecrunch first-impressions-windows-mobile-7-now-known-as-windows-phone
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I do not think it is spot on. Even some things you are saying here are your assumptions, not something MS stated. Where did now MS state specifically that HTC's Touch Flo will not exist on Windows Phone.
From what I see so far, MS has focused on what they will require vendors to provide, not on what they will ban them from providing. According to your logic, anything MS did not explicitly mention in this announcement is "specifically" banned.
http://www.osnews.com/story/22877/Microsoft_Unveils_Windows_Phone_7_Series said:
Screen resolution, aspect ratio, CPU speed, memory, you name it; it's all mandated by Microsoft. Even the button configuration: Start, back, search. That's it. No deviations. Speaking of deviations - no more custom UIs, Microsoft doesn't allow them.
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There for you...
Fdo35 said:
Well, Microsoft told us why. Flash on smartphones is EXTREMELY buggy, doesn't always work, and when it did work it wasn't very good quality. The only time it worked reasonably was in Skyfire, and the developers didn't get even the Flash player part from Adobe!! Although, it was nice to have the option, but at least Adobe is trying to improve it to include it with Windows Phones...eventually.
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This is true. The future is HTML5, which is every bit as capable, and more stable, will leave Flash in the dust where it belongs.
What we really should be asking is if these new smartphone platforms will support HTML5 and WebOS.
Flash is dead.
donalgodon said:
This is true. The future is HTML5, which is every bit as capable, and more stable, will leave Flash in the dust where it belongs.
What we really should be asking is if these new smartphone platforms will support HTML5 and WebOS.
Flash is dead.
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definitelly agree, and hope you are right...
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(...) Flash is dead. (...)
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Is it? Really? As of today? Come on...
Yeah, maybe sometime in the future. As soon as WP7 is ready. Maybe.
But definitely not as of today.
tictac0566 said:
Is it? Really? As of today? Come on...
Yeah, maybe sometime in the future. As soon as WP7 is ready. Maybe.
But definitely not as of today.
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Not today, but the nails are in the coffin. It won't be long until the rest of the world realizes, but it won't happen until other leaders take the leaps necessary to put other options on the table, and HTML5 support will be a part of MacOS, iPhoneOS, et. al. Steve Jobs has made that clear.
Stability and performance is what we are all after. Say what you want about Apple, but they have a design team that is maverick enough to make the leaps and not worry about legacy support.
We need to begin to make the break away from Flash.
alexsql said:
I do not think it is spot on. Even some things you are saying here are your assumptions, not something MS stated. Where did now MS state specifically that HTC's Touch Flo will not exist on Windows Phone.
From what I see so far, MS has focused on what they will require vendors to provide, not on what they will ban them from providing. According to your logic, anything MS did not explicitly mention in this announcement is "specifically" banned.
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Well, actually a Microsoft person (don't know what he does)
told an Engadget editor that while he was giving him a demo of Windows Phone 7, which was recorded. I think so, that is. It may have been a video from another site or quoted, but I remember Microsoft saying that somewhere.
health, I will be breaking down here because I do not know english: D
My question is if it would somehow go to the Windows Mobile 7 on Touch 2.
if there is somewhere I'm sorry I'm a beginner: D
If you're asking if the touch 2 will be able to run windows phone 7 OS then almost certainly not, sorry
The real question is, would you want to? apart from being nice to look at, WP7 is very limited.
Not almost certanly, its 100 000 % sure
I know, I was being a little too kind.
Like I said, for me, the negatives outweigh the positives when it comes to wp7, only the new ui is improved. and the xbox live integration.
Keep in mind guys that you can not run any existing application on WM7 (change of operating system)....requires new development of all software.....
Not sure if I want WM7.....untill enough freeware is available.....
WindCZ said:
health, I will be breaking down here because I do not know english: D
My question is if it would somehow go to the Windows Mobile 7 on Touch 2.
if there is somewhere I'm sorry I'm a beginner: D
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WM7 is not out as of now, so you won't find ANY device with WM7 AFAIK.
As far as running WM7 on Touch2 ... well unless it is released - who can say? I have seen some great things in this forum - which I never thought was possible.
So, may be you should wait in anticipation.. it just might .
Addicted2xda said:
WM7 is not out as of now, so you won't find ANY device with WM7 AFAIK.
As far as running WM7 on Touch2 ... well unless it is released - who can say? I have seen some great things in this forum - which I never thought was possible.
So, may be you should wait in anticipation.. it just might .
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Maybe you are right and we judge too early......but based on what Microsoft has announced sofar it is not very encouraging. And the many software operating developments by the various phone manufacturers shows the innovation weakness of microsoft.
Also the XDA community has shown that they can turn microsoft software into something workable.....and there is no reason why this can not be done with WM7.....
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Maybe you are right and we judge too early......but based on what Microsoft has announced sofar it is not very encouraging. And the many software operating developments by the various phone manufacturers shows the innovation weakness of microsoft.
Also the XDA community has shown that they can turn microsoft software into something workable.....and there is no reason why this can not be done with WM7.....
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Yeah! M$ is only to make Dollars . Thats why I trust xda more than M$ or even HTC .
If it was to M$, I would have never been able to run WM 6.5 on my Vox .
So, let us keep our fingers crossed .
But when it comes to port another OS to the Touch2, won't be Windows Mobile 7 easier than Android ?
HTC and Microsoft are hinting at the upgradation of HTC HD2 with Windows 7. HTC HD2 Contract phones was running Windows 6.5 which will soon become obsolete The reason for the upgrade can also be the phone configuration because the Windows 7 mobile phone handsets come with just three keys- Start, Back and Search.
The Microsoft marketing man Greg Sullivan said, “Our fragmentation issue is primarily around screen resolutions and assuming a minimum CPU and storage. So it has been a little bit challenging because that choice, that flexibility, that freedom that people have to build any kind of device and use any kind of device : touch, non touch, keyboard, soft key, has required a little bit extra effort in some cases for developers to target applications that run across a wide array of devices”.
According to him they have worked very closely with HTC HD2 Contract to have hardware and software integration and that is a reason for the capacitive and multi touch support provided in the Windows phone. He also said, “We are going to continue the horizontal market, but work very closely with our hardware partner to provide more guidance on the platform so we do not have nine different display sizes that independent software vendors have to target...may be just two..
We are going to continue investing in the user experience, and the legacy pocket PC 1999 UI that still kind of shows up if you drill down pretty deep? That's another thing that's changed.”
Source: hxxp://xxx.ukpressreleases.co.uk/HTC-HD2-Contract-Deals-With-Windows-7~123.htm
I think this source is bogus.
U mean the UK press releases? Dunno.. I google it..
source is fake.
Change the first 2 "x" of the source by "t" and the other 3 "x" by "www", and you will be able to read the correct source page. Or simply search "HTC HD2 Contract Deals With Windows 7" in google, and click on the second result.
Best regards
Funny how the article source is a supplier of the phone, and the link goes directly to a sales page.
If you believe this, then I wish you luck with your WP7 HD2. It will probably tri-boot with Android and iPhone as well.
There's only 1 place that you'll get WP7 for your HD2, and you're on it.
johncmolyneux said:
There's only 1 place that you'll get WP7 for your HD2, and you're on it.
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WORDDDD!!!
i must be one of the only ones whoe doesnt want WP7 on my HD2, i just dont like the look of it
djchubbs said:
i must be one of the only ones whoe doesnt want WP7 on my HD2, i just dont like the look of it
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Nah - I'm with you chubbs. Why on earth would I want the MS version of iPhone??? Personally, I think it looks gash!
johncmolyneux said:
Nah - I'm with you chubbs. Why on earth would I want the MS version of iPhone??? Personally, I think it looks gash!
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Me too, how can someone prefer some blue squares over sense?
BearsLikeHats said:
Me too, how can someone prefer some blue squares over sense?
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Exactly!! You took the words right outta my mouth..
Shum97 said:
Exactly!! You took the words right outta my mouth..
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God dont you know blue squares or sooo in at the mo'?
I with the anti WP7 guys. If i wanted a phone that costs me more money to run over it's life time that it's worth and only lets me do things with it that it wants me to do i would have an iphone already.
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If you believe this, then I wish you luck with your WP7 HD2. It will probably tri-boot with Android and iPhone as well.
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That did make me laugh.
@johnc I love the fact that you describe it as "gash", havent heard that in a while! Thanks, made me chuckle.
We (DFT team) at the end able to run WP7 on our LEOs, most of stuffs are really working: GSM,GPRS,Camera,GSensor,USB,SD,BT,WLAN,etc.
Is it coming soon?
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But new "Windows Phone Genuine" doesn't allow to use any Windows Live services :-( So it's mostly "Demo" of WP7. No bypass ways are known
Oh, well, hrmmm...heh
EDIT (AGAIN):
As well as MAGLDR development (used by Android & WP7) a bit delayed, because some problems takes more time.
1 minute ago via web
it will be released soon, but don't expect anything from it - without Live services it's not really usable :-(
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Well, hrmm...heh.
Still, the nay-sayers were adamant that it could not be done. Well done Cotulla and team!
Yuuupiiiii!
HD2 rocks!
And Cotulla is Alive!
That he is. I got a text on my phone saying he had a new tweet, and I was like 'whoa, hes alive!'
He is alive lol i was suprised myself...Its a shame that windows live wont be available. Freaken microsoft!:/
Someone who knows, can explain to us, why Windows Live is so important....because if we can install apps by hand and if we can have apps like gmail, facebook, twitter notifications whats the deal?
for sure Windows Live will be something ungry for our data plane, and users usual will note use that, closing the syncro auto.
its a good oportunitty to M$ give us something, someway to acess a acount.
in the final conclusion, if WP7s port will be anoyning, we have the great Android SO to use....loool
jmhecker said:
We (DFT team) at the end able to run WP7 on our LEOs, most of stuffs are really working: GSM,GPRS,Camera,GSensor,USB,SD,BT,WLAN,etc.
Is it coming soon?
EDIT:
But new "Windows Phone Genuine" doesn't allow to use any Windows Live services :-( So it's mostly "Demo" of WP7. No bypass ways are known
Oh, well, hrmmm...heh
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As well as MAGLDR development (used by Android & WP7) a bit delayed, because some problems takes more time.
1 minute ago via web
it will be released soon, but don't expect anything from it - without Live services it's not really usable :-(
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Well, hrmm...heh.
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cotula the man .... I knew this is going to happen .. Lets wait for some kind of fix for windows live ... Impossible is nothing
It wont be long until someone cracks the authentication system like they crack Window7 on our PC's.
Just curious, is the authentications (PVK) keys encrypted into the hardware?
Thanks Cotulla & DFTeam! You guys are Masters! Cheers!
Cotulla & DFTeam Rocks!
Now it is very clear that HD2 is capable to run WP7 but it is MS and HTC who want us to buy HD7 or whatever **** off. I am sure we will get rid of WGP sooner or later.
Good to see androind nand with the latest MAGLDR
iDev
Cotulla & DFTeam - Thanks
Thanks Cotulla & DFTeam for the hard work, for sure will buy u a beer soon ...
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Thanks Cotulla & DFTeam! You guys are Masters! Cheers!
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Thank you to all developers for the hd2 and Shu your a legend for your roms, cruzer series is probably the fastest windows rom I have ever used.
Samsunguy said:
Thank you to all developers for the hd2 and Shu your a legend for your roms, cruzer series is probably the fastest windows rom I have ever used.
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Thanks samsunguy! I'm glad you liked the rom, i deeply appreciate your compliment. though its out-dated already ... soon we will have wp7!
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it will be released soon, but don't expect anything from it - without Live services it's not really usable :-(
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I wonder how soon it will be!
Big Thanks to Cotulla and DFT team
Big thanks to Cotulla and the DFT team for your hard work with the magldr and the WP7 port to our HD2
Can´t wait to the release of it!
Br!
Giganten79
lemonspeakers said:
It wont be long until someone cracks the authentication system like they crack Window7 on our PC's.
Just curious, is the authentications (PVK) keys encrypted into the hardware?
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As I understand it, each piece of hardware receives a unique key. Presumably this key will be banned by MS as soon as a duplicate is detected - very much unlike W7 where OEMs and other licenses come into play.
And with the checks being integrated with all of MS' services, it probably won't be too easy to emulate/return dummy data to allow operation.
Great work by the guys as usual, but without Live services I will probably just buy a WP7 phone. Keeping my HD2 for Android though
Blade0rz said:
As I understand it, each piece of hardware receives a unique key. Presumably this key will be banned by MS as soon as a duplicate is detected - very much unlike W7 where OEMs and other licenses come into play.
And with the checks being integrated with all of MS' services, it probably won't be too easy to emulate/return dummy data to allow operation.
Great work by the guys as usual, but without Live services I will probably just buy a WP7 phone. Keeping my HD2 for Android though
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Thing is though that this must be one of the very few phones in this position. From MS point of view the alternative is that people use Android as it is clear the move is away from 6.5. If I was in MS shoes I would turn a blind eye as their marketplace and future as a phone OS relies on market recognition and popularity. Can't believe they are charging much for a license as the competition is already more accepted and free.
Does anybody know which services are dependent on Live?
I guess at least XBL integration is there. What about marketplace, Zune, Netflix?
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Thing is though that this must be one of the very few phones in this position. From MS point of view the alternative is that people use Android as it is clear the move is away from 6.5. If I was in MS shoes I would turn a blind eye as their marketplace and future as a phone OS relies on market recognition and popularity. Can't believe they are charging much for a license as the competition is already more accepted and free.
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Maybe. Or maybe they're hoping their OS is strong enough to hold it's own against Android. So if they ban Live services for HD2, some people will buy a HD7, some people will stick with Android. If they allow Live services, almost zero HD2 owners would switch - why would they? High-spec phone with the latest OS.
It's a lose-lose situation for us really.
Does anybody know which services are dependent on Live?
I guess at least XBL integration is there. What about marketplace, Zune, Netflix?
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Pretty much everything. XBL, Zune (You can listen, but you can't purchase), Marketplace, Contacts sync/backup. And we can't even sideload apps without a developer-registered phone (which again I doubt this port would allow). So it's pretty much the HD2 with E-Mail and Bing Maps
encryption
what about sd card encryption ....is it fixed or what?any news
Blade0rz said:
Maybe. Or maybe they're hoping their OS is strong enough to hold it's own against Android. So if they ban Live services for HD2, some people will buy a HD7, some people will stick with Android. If they allow Live services, almost zero HD2 owners would switch - why would they? High-spec phone with the latest OS.
It's a lose-lose situation for us really.
Pretty much everything. XBL, Zune (You can listen, but you can't purchase), Marketplace, Contacts sync/backup. And we can't even sideload apps without a developer-registered phone (which again I doubt this port would allow). So it's pretty much the HD2 with E-Mail and Bing Maps
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That's too bad. I would like to switch from my old Zune to HD2 (basically a Zune HD now), but if there is no marketplace, it's basically a very bad deal.