When adding a Gmail account, it seems to have a push function. But doesn't this drain the battery? I've been trying to find out what kind of push this is, if its exchange style, or checking the email every 30 secounds, the battery has to be drained quicker than having it to check i.e. every 3 hours?
I cannot find any settings for gmail, where you can choose how often it should check for new mails
arxx said:
When adding a Gmail account, it seems to have a push function. But doesn't this drain the battery? I've been trying to find out what kind of push this is, if its exchange style, or checking the email every 30 secounds, the battery has to be drained quicker than having it to check i.e. every 3 hours?
I cannot find any settings for gmail, where you can choose how often it should check for new mails
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Hi, I have Legend only few days, but when I lived 2 years with HTC Diamond, my experiences were that when I had push enabled, my battery seems to live longer. Maybe it's because the battery is much more drained during onnecting and disconnecting, I don't know. But be everytime connected due to a push seems to be not so bad.
arxx said:
I've been trying to find out what kind of push this is, if its exchange style, or checking the email every 30 secounds, the battery has to be drained quicker than having it to check i.e. every 3 hours?
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By definition, anything that is polling a server for new email every X hours is not using push email.
A proper push email system means that a persistent data connection is opened between your mail application and your mail server, and when new mail arrives at the server it is pushed down to the device. On balance, push email systems will probably use slightly more battery than a polling solution, but probably not enough to worry about.
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I'm having troubles with pop email accounts, I'm not being notified for new emails, they do not show up in my inbox until i manually open the email client - I have my client to auto check every 5 minutes, yet if I don't check for half a day and then login I have emails from all times of the day being loaded into my inbox.
my friend is having the issue, was wondering if anyone else was?
It's with hotmail, yahoo and ever business emails servers.
suggestions?
Thanks in advanced
nobody noticed that there email isn't polling when it should be?
If you are using an app-killer, make sure your email app isnt killed with it, since that would eliminate the option to auto-fetch emails.
Inebriatef said:
If you are using an app-killer, make sure your email app isnt killed with it, since that would eliminate the option to auto-fetch emails.
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Pls check these items.
Have you add to auto kill list? then remove it. along with email app.
com.andorid.provider.download
google.android.apps.uploader
data sync should be on.
try it.
Im sure yore battery life wont last 2 days. and why did you setup pop3? Go for Imap it saves resources and disk space.
Let your computer do POP3 work.
no appkiller of any kind installed
I just noticed now I havn't received emails to my phone in the last 3 days, I had to manualy open the app to fetch it, update is set to 30 min
I use moxier and it updates and polls fine,
email app doesn't.
x10a rooted on o24 software
every other functions works great
robbyf66 said:
no appkiller of any kind installed
I just noticed now I havn't received emails to my phone in the last 3 days, I had to manualy open the app to fetch it, update is set to 30 min
I use moxier and it updates and polls fine,
email app doesn't.
x10a rooted on o24 software
every other functions works great
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On the first day I got the phone, before doing anything (root) to it, I also noticed that it didn't poll. Had it set for 5 minutes, background data on and it did nothing. Never polled once all day.
So rather than waste my time with something (else) from SE that didn't work I just installed K-9 Mail and never looked backed since
i have all my accounts forwarded to my gmail which i believe is push on android phones (someone correct me if im wrong), although this probably doesnt save battery life, i prefer having my email pushed
zhoustanley said:
i have all my accounts forwarded to my gmail which i believe is push on android phones (someone correct me if im wrong), although this probably doesnt save battery life, i prefer having my email pushed
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agree...just let gmail take care of it
I prefer to reply or send emails from my actual email account, I did use k9 for a while and it was working and i do like all the additional advanced features it offers. All I need is basic send/receive from a basic client and the android email app is suppose to work like that.
thanks so far guys
rvictorg said:
agree...just let gmail take care of it
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The regular email client is a bit lacking. Your issue isn't common though. Must be just missing something in the setting somewhere...if not you could always do the total reset on the phone i guess if you really had too.
I recently just caved in and made the full switch to Gmail for all of my accounts. Much easier to manage. It IS full push email I believe, plus imap makes things so much easier it's not even comparible.
It's too bad the gmail app on the phone won't let you send from multiple addys, but the web interface is good for sending from a diff addy in a pinch.
robbyf66 said:
I'm having troubles with pop email accounts, I'm not being notified for new emails, they do not show up in my inbox until i manually open the email client - I have my client to auto check every 5 minutes, yet if I don't check for half a day and then login I have emails from all times of the day being loaded into my inbox.
my friend is having the issue, was wondering if anyone else was?
It's with hotmail, yahoo and ever business emails servers.
suggestions?
Thanks in advanced
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Just checked it today, App killer was set for auto kill after a hour. Disabled, now push email works.....
Coming from a BlackBerry I want my Gmail & Hotmail to push to me instantly. Gmail works as expected, but for Hotmail rather than setup a POP3 account to automatically check mail every so many minutes, thus draining the battery, I decided to set up another Gmail account and let it pull my Hotmail for me:
(Can't post links, Google "Android Central Using Gmail Your Own Personal Push Mail Server")
This should do Gmail push for my Hotmail thus saving battery but more often than not I am NOT notified of new Hotmail unless I push the refresh button, putting me right back at square one with no push and battery drain by refreshing all of the time.
So the question - is Gmail checking Hotmail my best bet or should I try ActiveSync? My understanding is Android's implementation of ActiveSync is a major battery hog being that it is always connected to provide said push services, so I've stayed away from it however my current setup doesn't seem to be terribly optimized. Any suggestions? Thanks!
Hotmail does push now through activesync.
Google it. I cannot post urls.
Right, my question is how is the Hotmail/ActiveSync push performance and more importantly how does it affect battery life? My understanding is its pretty bad, was hoping someone here has tried it and can tell there experience with it.
i cannot really confirm it... but since enabling hotmail push for me personally... i cant even make it past 1 day with a full charge.... even a full charge plus a half at work for the remainder of the day barely gets me to 9pm
like i said... i havent confirmed this by turning it off, but quite simply... im blown away by how bad my battery life has become on my galaxy s
SEVEN is a great email app that I'm using that pushes all 4 of my Yahoo, 1 Hotmail, 1 Gmail and 1 AOHell to my phone. It's far better than the stock email app, and I've never tried Moxier Mail that was installed on my Moment before I got the Epic.
ss4rob- the epic does not like people who eat sushi. It will drain your battery when it detects raw fish
On the Gmail app on the Vibrant, is there any way to set when your phone checks for mail? I'd like to be able to lower the rate at which it checks. Can't seem to find any option for it whatsoever.
As far as I know, there is no polling interval. New e-mails are pushed directly to your phone the moment they arrive.
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On the Gmail app on the Vibrant, is there any way to set when your phone checks for mail? I'd like to be able to lower the rate at which it checks. Can't seem to find any option for it whatsoever.
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If you want to do this, you need to turn off email sync, with gmail , and set gmail up with the regular email app on the phone, gmail gets push mail notifictations, the regular app polls at a set time.
Thanks for the responses.
thegreatcity said:
As far as I know, there is no polling interval. New e-mails are pushed directly to your phone the moment they arrive.
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Well if that's true then surely that is hurting battery life, no?
A further question:
Will Gmail still update if you turn off Auto Sync? What about Background Data?
if you turn off auto sync, then nothing will come to the phone that is on that account, email, contacts, calendar, etc. its either all on or all off
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Well if that's true then surely that is hurting battery life, no?
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Not necessarily. You may want to look into other options to conserve battery life, but if you feel that Gmail is the culprit, Id say that watcher has the appropriate solution. The regular email app, is decidedly less feature filled, but you can certainly change the polling interval with it.
Kubernetes said:
Will Gmail still update if you turn off Auto Sync? What about Background Data?
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No, with Auto-sync off, you only get calls and texts.
Push is not Poll
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Well if that's true then surely that is hurting battery life, no?
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I don't believe that is necessarily true. Gmail leaves a TCP/IP connection open to a server, but transmits no data unless there is a new message. In other words, think of your phone as running a very simple and secure server that is ready and listening for Google to connect to it and alert it that there is a new message to retrieve (I don't think it's really a server, but it helps conceptually). Leaving that port open and a constant connection with no data flowing requires no additional battery life over what is necessary for your cellular modem to be on (which you need to be able to receive calls as well).
Wikipedia says that the technology used is Microsoft ActiveSync, but I'm inclined to believe it's XMPP (which is what Google Talk uses and is built into Android for other uses as well). But the above description of the technology is valid either way.
(spamblocker, remove the spaces) http :// en.wikipedia. org /wiki/ Push_e-mail # Google_Android
Every time a message is received, battery life is consumed in order to download the message. So, if you were to get the message on your desktop first, handle it, and delete it, I presume that would save you the battery life of the download of that message, but that is a very nominal amount of battery life. I wouldn't worry about it.
watcher64 said:
If you want to do this, you need to turn off email sync, with gmail , and set gmail up with the regular email app on the phone, gmail gets push mail notifictations, the regular app polls at a set time.
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Just a heads up to the OP (or anyone interested) regarding the stock email application- my experience was that the polling interval was unreliable. I have 3 email accounts, 2 of them were set to check on frequent intervals like 10 minutes or something and the third was set up to check on the hour.
Often times the stock email app would miss the intervals or would not check at all. Additionally there were numerous occasions that mail was sitting on my server but the stock vibrant mail would report no messages.
Your mileage may vary as many people seem to have very different experiences with their phones and bugs. My experience with the stock email app was pretty poor so I thought it worth sharing.
GPS and such annoyed me but I figured I'd be able to wait it out for a fix. Email was nearly a deal breaker though, especially having these problems after coming from blackberrys which do a great job with email.
I figured gmail was the way to go but i didnt want to get into some complex forwading scheme fr all of my email addresses.
The way I ended up working it out was to set up a free Google business account and change the mx records on my mail server to run through Google servers instead of my webhosts servers. Now I'm running all of my email addresses on the Gmail application and have push email and aside from a few minor gripes with the gmail/android interface I am pretty happy overall.
I'd suggest sticking with the gmail application, push email is a good thing.
Juice Defender from the market allows for setting how often your phone connects to a data connection. More or less doing the same thing.
I don't personally use it since I don't care, but it should answer the OP's question with a working solution.
Thanks for all the responses guys, a lot of good alternatives out there it seems.
I don't get all that many emails a day so was just curious if disabling it would save a lot of battery life. Since the general consensus is that it doesn't I'll leave it be.
I can conclusively state that the "Email" application on our G2 is responsible for consuming an inordinate amount of battery, because it does not properly sleep. When I had my phone configured to use Exchange/Activesync via the built-in sync and Email application, it would consistently be at the top of the "partial wake" list. Generally, the partial wake breakdown is a good starting point to determine which apps may be misbehaving. The following bug appears to be what we are seeing here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9307
To validate the battery drain, I completely deleted the account associated with Exchange and installed Touchdown (3rd party Exchange sync app). The difference is substantial. I was previously at 50% battery after just a few hours, where I can now make it easily through the entire day without charging.
Short story: If you're using the built in Email app (not Gmail, that is fine), try removing the account associated with it for a day and observe the change in battery life.
rmk40 said:
I can conclusively state that the "Email" application on our G2 is responsible for consuming an inordinate amount of battery, because it does not properly sleep. When I had my phone configured to use Exchange/Activesync via the built-in sync and Email application, it would consistently be at the top of the "partial wake" list. Generally, the partial wake breakdown is a good starting point to determine which apps may be misbehaving. The following bug appears to be what we are seeing here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9307
To validate the battery drain, I completely deleted the account associated with Exchange and installed Touchdown (3rd party Exchange sync app). The difference is substantial. I was previously at 50% battery after just a few hours, where I can now make it easily through the entire day without charging.
Short story: If you're using the built in Email app (not Gmail, that is fine), try removing the account associated with it for a day and observe the change in battery life.
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I've also noticed this, if you search this forum for activesync you'll find where I diagnosed it along with the facebook app as being two things that drain your battery.
My fix was to instead just forward my email to a gmail and use gmail's push functionality. Works great, and gmail lets you change your "send from" address so it's completely transparent to anyone you send mail to.
Just thought I'd let you know you're not the only one.
The "email" (NOTE: NOT GMAIL) app does seem to drain battery, at least when used with Exchange ActiveSync.
Did u guys change the check interval time? Iirc when u make an account it defaults to checking every 15 minutes. Sure way to kill the battery. Just a thought
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The Great NY said:
Did u guys change the check interval time? Iirc when u make an account it defaults to checking every 15 minutes. Sure way to kill the battery. Just a thought
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Unfortunately the interval makes no difference. The app basically does not sleep, even if I set it to never poll. In fact, I set it to not poll at all for an entire day and rebooted before writing this post.
There must be something else at play on your setup. I have zero problems with partial wake using the email app with my company's exchange server.
I have Exchange sync set on push, gmail set on push, and 2 other accounts set to 1 hour polling, and I get a full day's use out of the battery. Off the charger at 6 AM, back on around 11 PM (usually with about 25% battery remaining).
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I have Exchange sync set on push, gmail set on push, and 2 other accounts set to 1 hour polling, and I get a full day's use out of the battery. Off the charger at 6 AM, back on around 11 PM (usually with about 25% battery remaining).
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Same. But 9am to 2am
My battery will drain significantly faster just by having gmail sync activated...so for me, that's just as much of a kill. I don't really need that feature for the time being so I've turned it off which doubles my usage time
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Again syncing email with the company exchange server, syncing tweetdroid every 9 minutes after 8 hour so f very light use still at 86%
Perhaps volume of email is a factor. I get 200+ emails per day and I can imagine that having an affect on perceived battery drain
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Have people looked into whether Push or Fetch on CM7's email app gives better battery life or not?
Specifically I would be wanting to fetch every 15 minutes. I get email on this account maybe 7 times a day at most. However, my wakelocks on BetterBatteryStats show many many many wakelocks by the Email app even though I don't get that many emails...
well looking at the technical side of it... push would save more battery life due to the device not doing anything... the servers are the ones that get the email and then send it to the device... where as pull the device talks to the server every 15 mins to see if new mail is there... see where i am going with this... so technically speaking push would be the battery saver not pull..
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well looking at the technical side of it... push would save more battery life due to the device not doing anything... the servers are the ones that get the email and then send it to the device... where as pull the device talks to the server every 15 mins to see if new mail is there... see where i am going with this... so technically speaking push would be the battery saver not pull..
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That is not what it's like in practice. When I have push I have over 50 minutes of wakelocks from the CM7 email. When I have pull I only get 10 minutes over a 12 hour period.
Hi
I just installed Neutrino 2.2 and Email addon, but i dont see PUSH option in any account.
How to enable push in CM7?
Tnx
The only disadvantage of pull is that u don't get your email instantly. The email can arrive only when the next fetch happens. So it depends onwhite what you want. I want to keep my work email always on push particularly in the working hours.
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