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Folks,
I only got my baby yesterday, but is anyone else finding this?
For me, the device will only switch to landscape mode for Opera, Photos & Videos, and Teeter. Not in TouchFlow 3D Home or any of its tabs, Mobile Office apps, TomTom 7, ...anything!
I've tried turning off Touchflow 3D and rebooting with no effect and with the G-Sensor there is no manual setting to force landscape.
This makes the keyboard in TomTom tiny and means that the screen isn't that much more usable for Office apps than my venerable old 2.8" TyTn.
Please could someone tell me if it's just my phone that's afflicted or is it a "feature"?
Thanks!
JTHM said:
Folks,
I only got my baby yesterday, but is anyone else finding this?
For me, the device will only switch to landscape mode for Opera, Photos & Videos, and Teeter. Not in TouchFlow 3D Home or any of its tabs, Mobile Office apps, TomTom 7, ...anything!
I've tried turning off Touchflow 3D and rebooting with no effect and with the G-Sensor there is no manual setting to force landscape.
This makes the keyboard in TomTom tiny and means that the screen isn't that much more usable for Office apps than my venerable old 2.8" TyTn.
Please could someone tell me if it's just my phone that's afflicted or is it a "feature"?
Thanks!
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no thats totally normal. and known since the first infos of the HD came out.
If you really want full landscape switching, get Gyrator2 or Gsen. both can be found on this forum
It doesn't help you, JTHM, but I hardly ever use landscape mode in my Touch (Elf) so perhaps the way the Touch HD works is by design for people like me. The only time landscape mode offers any advantage to me is for photos, videos and web browsing. With the mini USB connector at the bottom, my Touch is always in its cradle in portrait orientation and it sits in the car more easily this way too.
I'm surprised there's no manually-activated landscape option in the software though.
(Sorry that this post doesn't really help you but perhaps it illustrates that for some (maybe most?) users the lack of landscape isn't a problem at all and may therefore be by design.)
Hang on, can I clarify.
I like to use my xda2i in landscape with my bluetooth travel keyboard sometimes. Does this mean that i can't just rotate the screen to landscape and use it in landscape mode with my keyboard??
......Ib a n e
BANE said:
Hang on, can I clarify.
I like to use my xda2i in landscape with my bluetooth travel keyboard sometimes. Does this mean that i can't just rotate the screen to landscape and use it in landscape mode with my keyboard??
......Ib a n e
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I think that raziel1 has already answered that question? Use Gyrator2 or Gsen both of which can be found in this forum.
It does seem to be missing a trick by not have some software button built in to switch the screen though.
I had one flaw with the HD: The typing. I wanted (like Iphone) to use the keyboard in landscape so i had more room for my fingers. But the HD doesn't do that standard.
I installed Gyrator 2 and set it to switch to landscape when i use my keyboard. In every application, now when I use my keyboard and tilt the device, the screen rotates.
It made my HD even better.
Which is better? Gsen or Gyrator? I know they have other features but I only want an app to rotate landscape and uses minimal memory as I guess it needs to be running on start up.
ok, gyrator is a PROGRAM. I thought it was another handset or something. oh as long as there is soemthing you can do te get the landscape working that's sweet for me. I'm really close to buying one of these beasts!
I'm surprised that TomTom doesn't rotate automatically.
I've sure I've seen screen shots of it in Landscape mode and wouldn't have thought those web site's had installed any other third-party screen orientation software.
Beards.
You can also purchase Resco keyboard. It has large keys that you can use with your fingers. Well that depends how big your fingers are. Best to download a copy of the program, install it and test it out.
And since the screen is 3.8, it should give you plenty of space on top to see your message?
donbronzi said:
I think that raziel1 has already answered that question? Use Gyrator2 or Gsen both of which can be found in this forum.
It does seem to be missing a trick by not have some software button built in to switch the screen though.
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has anyone tried this?
I'd like to see a full landscape keyboard, but can't find any pics/vids if u could try, and post it I'd be most appreciative.
best regards
you can use gsen
look here
has anybody successfully tried gyrator on the hd? i just installed .net compact framework 3.5 and then gyrator, but when I try to start it I get a ObjectDisposedException...
any ideas?
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has anybody successfully tried gyrator on the hd? i just installed .net compact framework 3.5 and then gyrator, but when I try to start it I get a ObjectDisposedException...
any ideas?
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its runs on mine but its a bit hit and miss on the orientation sometimes !!!!
Jezwick said:
its runs on mine but its a bit hit and miss on the orientation sometimes !!!!
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yeah, after another reboot it's working now. tried it in a couple apps and seems fine so far... funny thing is with the streaming video app, when you go to fullscreen it auto rotates the screen, but as soon as you move the hd to landscape position gyrator rotates it again... will need to check out the docs on how to add exceptions.
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has anybody successfully tried gyrator on the hd? i just installed .net compact framework 3.5 and then gyrator, but when I try to start it I get a ObjectDisposedException...
any ideas?
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i have the same problem, ... i have downloaded the latest version of gyrator 2 ...and when i restart the device , it request to onstall new version of .net compact framework ( it hink to download the 3,5 version) ..; i have the same error message : ObjectDisposedException
what can i do ...because gsen is too unstable ( read in feedbacks) ???
thanks
I was going to buy the HD today,but just saw one terrible point in gsmarena and stop buying it. The issue is- The HD doesn't have an option for landscape auto rotation or the landscape keyboard for Messaging,it's only available for Web browsing. Is that true? If it is then i am not gonna buy it. Please rep ASAP.
It is not true. It just doesn't work out of the box but if you install Gyrator, GSen or Flip-It it works perfectly.
Correct, you need to install one of the above, and it auto rotates no problem. I use Gyrator, very user friendly
Install ChangeScreen from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466858
Best app for what you need.
Basically it allows either 2 modes.
It will rotate to landscape at any screen/application other than the ones you specify not to.
or
It will only rotate on the screens/apps you want it to.
I have set it to the latter so that it only rotates on messaging and rss reader app.
Much less complicated than the apps mentioned above.
CorruptedSanity said:
Install ChangeScreen from here
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Excellent tip, I'd been waiting for a nice clean rotation-tool without any extra features. Downloaded and installed this one right away...and it's PERFECT Thank you for pointing it out !
Regards from The Netherlands,
Rolf
Take a look at his article: http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6549
^Rook said:
Excellent tip, I'd been waiting for a nice clean rotation-tool without any extra features. Downloaded and installed this one right away...and it's PERFECT Thank you for pointing it out !
Regards from The Netherlands,
Rolf
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Huger thanks to 600GOL for creating it.
Now go donate to him!
actually i try some tool like ur but it costed me a lot battery life and quite unstable. hope ur works well
well i've just tested it. work very nice to me but after try it for sometimes and change back to potrait home screen my task bar icons seem nor work including start and exot burton . idont enable touchflo rotation hiz my rom is pzuchel 117
mitut, post in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466858
Hi!
Planning to buy this HD stuff I wonder if I can use this landscape keyboard to input data to office applications?
sure you can! even without any roatae add ons, and it's great
Hi all,
Anyone can advice which version of the TF3D is running best on the X1 for those portrait and landscape mode that available here?
Many Thanks
I'm wondering to. What are you're xperiances from the different TF3D:s?
I'm getting the performance due to response have been slow down and also it's still not support the landscape mode.
...sorry...
as far as I could understand, the best ones are the the tf3d versions of itje and daran clarke, which are cooked into the rom. The diference between them is that itje's is much more customized, while daran's is close to the original. I personally don't have balls yet to try out the roms using daran's beta2 as a panel from time to time (it is not that fast as the ones cooked into the rom and doesn't have landscape support though).
ryip said:
I'm getting the performance due to response have been slow down and also it's still not support the landscape mode.
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TF3D from rhodium support landscape mode (included in Itje's Touch-It 4.5 rom)
Itje's version 5.0 of the newest rhodium TF3D is up and running. VERY fast and smoothe. No bugs reported as of yet, so if i were you, I would flash this goodie onto the X1 asap. Enjoyy
I am a big fan of TF3D right from day 1 of my X1. But recently i sifted to Home UI 2 and trust me its very very good. TF3D is resource hungry and slows your x1 a lot. Just try Home UI 2 and see.
yeah, home ui 2 is delicious, but it does not support Russian, thatmakes me sad panda
Manila Good, Home 2 Good
I haven't tried the ROMs - still too chicken to go the full hard SPL and non-stock ROM root at the moment.
I've tried both the main TF3D cabs (daran's and itje's) and I personally prefer itje's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442154
I've found both of them problematic as a normal today plugin and found that they run better as a panel (search for pubba's TF3D panel.)
As with moleculez, I've recently fallen for Home 2. The initial betas seemed to play up but the latest one I downloaded (v2.0.28e) seemed to be a lot better. There are already a load of applets and themes for Home 2 as well and I particularly like the 5-day forecast that allows you to select cities more easily than the default today applet.
But I digress... so for me its itje's cab that wins the day for me (if you aren't willing to go the whole hog and flash a custom ROM.) Also tried it with the Rodium mods, supplied by xboxmod, which includes landscape but that's only for VGA (not WVGA like the X1) so it screwed up the portrait mode a bit and has caused a couple of other funny bits of behaviour. xboxmod's mods are available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493531
Really, I think if you are serious about TF3D then its got to be a custom ROM though.
chris28j said:
Itje's version 5.0 of the newest rhodium TF3D is up and running. VERY fast and smoothe. No bugs reported as of yet, so if i were you, I would flash this goodie onto the X1 asap. Enjoyy
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Really? However, i'm just only find the thread for 4.5; can you advice the link for the version 5.0 so that i can take a look then?
Many Thanks
Webbmeister said:
I haven't tried the ROMs - still too chicken to go the full hard SPL and non-stock ROM root at the moment.
I've tried both the main TF3D cabs (daran's and itje's) and I personally prefer itje's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442154
I've found both of them problematic as a normal today plugin and found that they run better as a panel (search for pubba's TF3D panel.)
As with moleculez, I've recently fallen for Home 2. The initial betas seemed to play up but the latest one I downloaded (v2.0.28e) seemed to be a lot better. There are already a load of applets and themes for Home 2 as well and I particularly like the 5-day forecast that allows you to select cities more easily than the default today applet.
But I digress... so for me its itje's cab that wins the day for me (if you aren't willing to go the whole hog and flash a custom ROM.) Also tried it with the Rodium mods, supplied by xboxmod, which includes landscape but that's only for VGA (not WVGA like the X1) so it screwed up the portrait mode a bit and has caused a couple of other funny bits of behaviour. xboxmod's mods are available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493531
Really, I think if you are serious about TF3D then its got to be a custom ROM though.
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Actually, i'm much prefer to using TF3D since i like the interface much more then HomeUI2 However, i've still using the stock ROM of R2AA from SE instead of the customize one; so, i may try to wait for the B3 release by Darans's then....hehee....
ryip said:
Really? However, i'm just only find the thread for 4.5; can you advice the link for the version 5.0 so that i can take a look then?
Many Thanks
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Touch-It v5.0 here
I just got the TP2 for USCC last week. (WM6.5) I haven't used WM in about 2 years and am pretty dissapointed to find a lot of the same issues that were present then. I used to be a fairly competent WM user with above average knowledge in registry editing, ROM flashing, etc but most of what I used to use seems to have changed. So far I have found the fixes for the sms sent notification and the organization of the contact list by last name, first to first, last.
I've been all over these forums and cannot find a fix to disable the onscreen keyboard from auto-popping...ever. Also, in the sound settings menu, there is a slider to adjust ringer volume and another to adjust system volume yet these two don't work independently. I want system volume loud for hearing things like my IM app that runs in the background yet have the ringer volume lower as it's over bearing on full.
Something else I have noticed is that some settings menus appear to be there but not functioning. For instance, under settings>all settings>today there is a 2nd tab for items that does not change from the appearance tab. I've notice several menu's like this throughout the phone. It seems like there are things that other versions of WM may have had that this doesn't or simply that Microsoft/HTC got lazy in the initial release and either did not remove tabs that were not intended to be there or forgot to finish some that should. Just wondering if anyone has some insight into this.
I'm also looking for a good free IM client. I've seen many apps across these forums but with so many out there, it's hard to find the right one for me. I refuse to pay $45 for Agile messenger (although I've seen hacked versions but I would prefer not to deal with that). It's a decent app, not great but decent but $45 for a very simple app is outrageous. So, I found Slick ( http://slick.en.softonic.com/windowsmobile ) which is a free app and works great! The only feature it is missing that I liked about Agile is a notification (similar to the annoying sms message sent notification that I removed) while the app is in standby. Does anyone know of another free IM app that is simple and has that feature? I only use Google Talk and have noticed some apps specifically for that but there are so many to try, I'm hoping someone has a good recommendation to save me some time.
The last thing I'm curious about pertains to Manila. I see Manila all over these forums. I've done some reading on it and have a good understanding of what manila is. But, it's very confusing as some thread talk about reflashing ROMS for it and others talk about installing cabs over your current rom for it. Does anyone have a link to a good thread(s) that will explain things more clearly so I can make an educated decision on the best way to try this out? A, Manila for Dummies, if you will.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Edit: It looks like the "Manila" Touch Flo design is incorporated in WM 6.5 on my device already? Is this mainly the custom tabs located at the bottom of the today screen?
CeLlgUy said:
...to disable the onscreen keyboard from auto-popping...
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There's an option to disable "Auto Deploy SIP" in Advanced Configuration Tool.
CeLlgUy said:
... Also, in the sound settings menu, there is a slider to adjust ringer volume and another to adjust system volume yet these two don't work independently....
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Go to "Settings" tab, tap "Sound", turn off "Single Volume Control".
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... under settings>all settings>today there is a 2nd tab for items that does not change from the appearance tab....
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First of all, TF3D/TouchFlo3d, Manila, or Sense are essentially the same thing. It's a skin designed by HTC to cover up WinMo. You may say it's actualy just a very elaborate Today screen plugin. Since it takes up the whole screen, you would not be able to add other items.
CeLlgUy said:
... I'm also looking for a good free IM client....
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No comment. I use MSN Messenger. See if other can help you out here.
CeLlgUy said:
... A, Manila for Dummies, if you will....
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See above for a crude definition. There are many versions, so that's why there's so much discussion in these forums about them. People are trying to use versions that didn't come stock with their devices.
TF2D or Manila 2D - for budget devices like the Touch Vivo, Touch Cruise, etc
TF3D v1 - originally came on the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro
TF3D v2- came with the Touch Diamond 2 and our Touch Pro2.
TF3D v2.1 - came with the release of the official WinMo 6.5 ROM for the Touch Diamond2 and our Touch Pro2. Identifiable with the weather under the clock in the Home tab.
TF3D v2.5 - came with the release of the Touch HD2. Has customizable shortcuts on the Home tab, revamped People tab, coverflow-like Pictures tab and Music tab when in landscape, and other goodies.
Btw, going forward, you may want to list out what you're asking in bullet point form. Most people are put off by long essay-like posts. You'll get more responses if your post is clear and short.
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There's an option to disable "Auto Deploy SIP" in Advanced Configuration Tool.
Go to "Settings" tab, tap "Sound", turn off "Single Volume Control".
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Can't believe I missed that one, thanks.
First of all, TF3D/TouchFlo3d, Manila, or Sense are essentially the same thing. It's a skin designed by HTC to cover up WinMo. You may say it's actualy just a very elaborate Today screen plugin. Since it takes up the whole screen, you would not be able to add other items.
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I was just using that particular option as an example of a menu that is present but cannot be accessed.
See above for a crude definition. There are many versions, so that's why there's so much discussion in these forums about them. People are trying to use versions that didn't come stock with their devices.
TF2D or Manila 2D - for budget devices like the Touch Vivo, Touch Cruise, etc
TF3D v1 - originally came on the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro
TF3D v2- came with the Touch Diamond 2 and our Touch Pro2.
TF3D v2.1 - came with the release of the official WinMo 6.5 ROM for the Touch Diamond2 and our Touch Pro2. Identifiable with the weather under the clock in the Home tab.
TF3D v2.5 - came with the release of the Touch HD2. Has customizable shortcuts on the Home tab, revamped People tab, coverflow-like Pictures tab and Music tab when in landscape, and other goodies.
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That actually clears it up quite a bit. So it appears that my CDMA TP2 with USCC is actually 2.1 or 2.5? I see you stated our TP2 is is 2.1 but your description of 2.5 seems to fit my phone. Either way, it looks like I can just addon on any Manila Cabs that customize the home screen more as Manila is already installed?
Btw, going forward, you may want to list out what you're asking in bullet point form. Most people are put off by long essay-like posts. You'll get more responses if your post is clear and short.
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Sorry about that, I was reading though forums for about 2 hours after the bar last night when I typed all of that. I tend to get a bit winded when I'm intoxicated.
CeLlgUy said:
I was just using that particular option as an example of a menu that is present but cannot be accessed.
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Where else are there menu options that doesn't look like they belong? Anyway, if there are, then it's because of Microsoft and not HTC. We're on WinMo is on version 6.5 now, but it really hasn't changed much since I first used a pocket PC back in 2000.
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Either way, it looks like I can just addon on any Manila Cabs that customize the home screen more as Manila is already installed?
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Certainly, there are components that are possible to install via cabs. But often, you'll need to flash a ROM with the particular build of Manila that you want to get those features.
So just to clear this up, if something is made for TF3D v2, it should (or might) work with our CDMA TP2 running the stock @M6.5 rom?
Also, anyone have a fix for the keyboard thing? I remembered the name of the cab i used to use, null keyboard but can't find anything that works with this rom. I've tried a few reg edits that have not worked.
CeLlgUy said:
So just to clear this up, if something is made for TF3D v2, it should (or might) work with our CDMA TP2 running the stock @M6.5 rom?
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It should, yes. However, if you have a TP2 with WM 6.5 you most likely have Manila 2.1 (in my case 2.1.191937). If you go to the Settings tab and scroll down, you should be able to see which version you have. That being said, many cabs work on all versions, a good few has to have a more specific version (like 2.0, 2.1 or 2.5) and a mere handful needs to be spot on (e.g. 2.1.1717).
After installing such a CAB you often need to restart your TF3D/Manila/Sense, and to do so you go to Start > Settings > Today and tick off HTC Sense. Tap OK and go back in to tick the HTC Sense box again. That restarts your TF3D.
Hope that made sense.
Thx for the clarification, I think I'm ready to start customizing this thing! I'm a bit hesitant as I really like alot of the features that come with the stock home screen. My last windows device was the 8125 and I modded the **** out of that home screen but this one I simply want to add a few highlights without loosing the over all look.
One thing I have been curious about is if there is a way to put a google search bar under the calendar. I know Google apps will put one up but then I have to go to my programs tab and open google apps so I might as well just eliminate a step and open opera.
I haven't checked to be honest with you, but I am satisfied with moving the internet tab a few notches closer to the home screen tab. I find that to be quick and easy enough! One tab on the tab and the google search is at the top of the screen.
Thanks for all the help! You gave me the tools I needed to dive back in. I understand the differences in Manila's now as I've flashed about 5 or 6 different roms. 2.5 is slick in theory, especially when Dusk Evolution v2.0 is theme is added but I had to return to 2.1. Thanks again for the help to get me started.
Im client look at PalRingo.. it's pretty awesome and covers most major networks (yahoo, MSN, gmail, facebook chat, icq others.
Yes, that's what I currently use. Kind of an old thread now too. I've come a long way since I started this thread.
Hello. I am the proud owner of a new HD2. I have also had a TP2 for about six months and they are very similar except for the much bigger screen, the loss of a physical keyboard and much better speed.
I have already Hard SPLd the device and it is running Energy's newest ROM (I have been using his on my TP2 for months and love them) just for the faster speed (supposedly) and better icons across the top. I am also running the newest version of SPL Shell which I love so far.
However, I would really like the thing to auto rotate. I am used to the TP2 rotating for me or at least when I snap out the keyboard. I BsB came with the ROM and I have it trying to rotate SPL but it is not doing what I want. For one thing to register the program you just have to run it and shake. I did this and it looks like it appears in the menu. I can get the carousel to rotate (with some shaking and effort) but that is about it. Any suggestions?
Gyrator is what you are looking for....http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
Alternatively find and install BSB Tweaks.
WB
Actually he said he has BsB and that it does not work.
I don't know what do you mean by 'carousel'. Anyway .. calibrate your G-sensor first. Then you will have to reboot after the shaking (ie. close BsB, and it will ask for reboot, say yes).
He probably means SPB Shell (which has the cool carousel) and I wonder if BsB Tweaks works with that. Wasn't it made for Sense specifically?