[email protected],
I've a question, is there a way to switch 3G permanently on via CommManager? Editing registry or so. I know that I can set this in settings>phone>band, but in CommManager I can only select Automode or GPRS. The problem with that is, that I have a weak 3G signal where I live. So the phone registers to UMTS but whenever I start Internet, it switches back to GPRS, then back to 3G, after a time again to GPRS and so on. The phone stops any loading while reregister so this is really annoying, not to mention the lower speed on GPRS. I'd be happy with any solution. Thanks.
Dennis
In the Comm Manager, I try to switch Data Connection (HSDPA for me on Orange UK) off, but it keeps coming on.
I don't want it on!
Is there a better way to keep it switched off until I request it to be re-enabled?
Should only come on when an app requests data access. Have you got something running in the background? Quickgps perhaps?
i can't turn mine off via the Comm Manager unless i put the phone in GSM only. fyi, the HD 3G bands don't work in the US.
Windows Live Messenger is running in the background but that should be sorted by the WiFi which is on.
I go into the Proxy Settings for Orange Internet and untick the box that says that "this connects to the internet". But then it automatically ticks itself again and connects!
Perhaps it's an Orange problem?
Don't think so - I'm on Orange too and it doesn't happen. Anyway, it's the phone's choice to connect to HSDPA, it has to actively make the connection.
My best guess is your phone is losing connection with your wifi for short periods, and thus resorting to the backup hsdpa.
I think I've found a solution:
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/11...nternet-hspda-gprs-3g-edge-off.html#more-1863
Download here:
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
EDIT or here:
http://www.4shared.com/file/34306709/f45622d6/NoData.html?start=
Aren't you confusing 2 icons ?
The big plain H only means that SSDPA is available on the network. This doesn't mean you arer *using* HSDPA at this time.
The icon to look at is the one just on the right of the big H. When you are using HSDPA, it shows a little H with 2 arrows below. If it shows an antenna with the signal level bar below, you are not using HSDPA, but only GSM.
At least it's the way it works on mine. As soon as I need data transmission (like for weather forecast), it uses HSDPA since it is available. Otherwise, it uses GSM. Therefore,
mine turns itself on when i recieve a mms....could you be recieving one?
Close all applications using it!
Sometimes I forget to close Opera after using it, and it happens to me too!
Hi guys,
I've been a HTC and Windows Mobile user a little while now. I previously had a Trinity (HTC 3600) and now I have the Touch HD. It has come to my attention that I really need to figure out what the data terminology really means.
I have noticed that when using my phone, data connections are automatically initiated when I perform/launch specific applications that are obviously using a data connection, such as:
- Google Maps
- Tom Tom Traffic
- Internet (opera/internet explorer)
- Manilla 3D Weather
- Manilla Photo uploading
- etc.
I have found it annoying at times that data connections have started without informing me, and then to make things worse, the connection doesnt cancel at the end of its task, it needs a manual disconnect.
I've gradually gone through the settings of most programs, turning off any form of "automatic update" setting. So im happier knowing that most of the time my phone shouldnt be unexpectidly in the middle of a data connection.
But on occasions I look at my phone, and see that its had a data connection open for over an hour (although my guess is that hardly any data has been transfered on these occasions).
So firstly, could anyone reccomend any programs that can monitor my data connections or usage and even force me to give authorisation whenever a data connection is requested?
Secondly, I find that if I have my wifi connection connected, all apps that try to use a data connection use this to channel their data through, this is perfectly fine and is the behaviour I expect, but when I'm using Windows Messenger on my phone, while on wifi, for some unknown reason, it feels it can establish another data connection (regardless of the wifi being connected and operating) - and that is very annoying.
Most of my concerns stem from the fact that I only have off-peak free data time on the web with my provider (Orange).
Lastly, could someone help explain the differences between:
GPRS
3G
HSDPA
I think GPRS is what sat nav apps use for geographical positioning using satelites, and its free. But im not sure about the others, are there others that I am unaware of too. I think 3G and HSDPA are data connections, but what makes one different from the other, and why is it only sometimes 3G is used, and another time HSDPA is used?
Im in London, UK, and I notice on my phones signal bar, that it can often change to show a "G" or a "H" or a "3G" and there could be others. This is all so confusing, and my main concern is about paying for data connections etc.
Oh... and whats the difference, or whats the point of telling the phone to use "Work" or "The Internet", this also confuses me.
Although this is a bit of a long winded post, I'll appriciate any bits of help and advice given.
Thanks in advanced,
WizzKidd
Ok, i've been doing some reading, and for the sake of those who "search" these forums in the future, this post will at least have an answer (even if im kinda answering it myself).
My understanding is as follows:
The 4 data channels are: GSM / GPRS / 3G / EDGE
In order of their age (oldest to newest)...
GSM: (Global System for Mobile communications)
- The European standard for the majority of handsets.
- Primary usage is voice.
- Tri-band GSM allow Europe to operate these phones and Quad-band GSM allows some Far East to operate.
- Can be used with the GPRS core network for data.
GPRS:
- One of the first widely used data channels
- Can transmit data of up to 60 KBits/sec
- is battery friendly
EDGE: (Exchanged Data rates for GSM Evolution)
- based on GPRS
- Can transmit up to 473.6 KB/its per second
- ideal for heavy webpages, and downloading email attachments etc
3G:
- Originally for video data calls but also efficient for web/email, im and voip
- very popular channel, most UK and some European networks now have 3G networks and with speeds similar to EDGE
- not battery friendly when searching for new 3G connections
HSDPA: (High speed Downlink Packet Access)
- Based on 3G technology
- Supports speeds of up to 7.2 MBits/sec (but in reality you usually get 3Mb/s)
- very good for high bandwidth usage like video streaming
So, what ive gathered from all this is that the phone can switch its data channel depending on how demanding the application is for bandwidth and also what data channels are available in the area.
Please correct me if i am wrong, assumtions and corrections is the best way to learn.
Thanks,
Wizzkidd
PS. I still dont see the point of Windows Mobile asking me if this network is connected to "Work" or "The Internet".
Isn't HSDPA also called 3G+ ?
GPRS
Hai Wizzkidd
What you can do is: put gprs off. Go to settings-> connections-> connections. On the tab tasks you wil see: my isp. Open de link modify and select your isp. Hold it down and remove settings.
You will still be able to make phonecalls and sms. You will have to get your updates etc... through wifi or sync.
me to, Orange/(3G) - are they the same ?????
wizzkidd said:
Hi guys,
I have found it annoying at times that data connections have started without informing me, and then to make things worse, the connection doesnt cancel at the end of its task, it needs a manual disconnect.
I've gradually gone through the settings of most programs, turning off any form of "automatic update" setting. So im happier knowing that most of the time my phone shouldnt be unexpectidly in the middle of a data connection.
But on occasions I look at my phone, and see that its had a data connection open for over an hour (although my guess is that hardly any data has been transfered on these occasions).
So firstly, could anyone reccomend any programs that can monitor my data connections or usage and even force me to give authorisation whenever a data connection is requested?
Secondly, I find that if I have my wifi connection connected, all apps that try to use a data connection use this to channel their data through, this is perfectly fine and is the behaviour I expect, but when I'm using Windows Messenger on my phone, while on wifi, for some unknown reason, it feels it can establish another data connection (regardless of the wifi being connected and operating) - and that is very annoying.
Most of my concerns stem from the fact that I only have off-peak free data time on the web with my provider (Orange).
Lastly, could someone help explain the differences between:
GPRS
3G
HSDPA
I think GPRS is what sat nav apps use for geographical positioning using satelites, and its free. But im not sure about the others, are there others that I am unaware of too. I think 3G and HSDPA are data connections, but what makes one different from the other, and why is it only sometimes 3G is used, and another time HSDPA is used?
Im in London, UK, and I notice on my phones signal bar, that it can often change to show a "G" or a "H" or a "3G" and there could be others. This is all so confusing, and my main concern is about paying for data connections etc.
Oh... and whats the difference, or whats the point of telling the phone to use "Work" or "The Internet", this also confuses me.
Although this is a bit of a long winded post, I'll appriciate any bits of help and advice given.
Thanks in advanced,
WizzKidd
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firstly = http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/ - not TESTED on my ELF { http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=318414&page=4 }
secondly = I had to 'make do' with a 'modem', for a bit. A '3' ZTE MF622 USB modem, it uses hdspa/3G. network3's website, classes this modem as a phone/sim - was PAYG, though (mythree. . . . ) - - - - THE HDSPA downloaded, "" faster at times than virgin-cabled Bband did !!! "" - watch [task mgr]->[network]
thirdly = NICE ONE !!! 9.75/10 for the (101/explaination's of the connections) and the check Ur not updating Ur Apps, all/some of the time.
shame the [comm mgr]->[phone]="wake on lan"/(x)
still under usb, i cannot Ms Direct push / Data connect
only LIVE via usb - NO WIFI (connected, but ...)
networks
Hi,
I think your question about preventing automatic connection has been explained.
As for GPRS, 3G and HSDPA,
They are all cellular data connections but will vary in speed and stability.
GPRS and EDGE (can provide what each stand for but i am sure google would do the work for me)
They are the packet data networks when using the 2G networks. GPRS (2.5G f you will) has downlink speeds of around 28kb/s and EDGE (2.75G) 100kb/s.
3G (UMTS) max's out around 384kb/s and officially HSDPA (3.5G) can is commercially available at 7.2mbps. All the speeds above are network dependant as all can be capped.
Most operators are now testing HSDPA and HSUPA (3.75G - same downlink speed as HSDPA but faster uplink, the speed however escapes me ) on speeds greater than 7.2mbps.
You will not be charged differently for each network type and each will come out of a data plan at the same rate.
The 2G networks are more stable but slower and the 3G networks are faster but due to congestion issues the connections have been known to drop as i am sure some other users will agree.
The thing sat nav software uses for positioning is GPS (Global positioning system) and not GPRS (general packet radio service). GPS is a handset feature like wifi or bluetooth and nothing to do with the network.
Hope that helps.
Cheers
Ross
HSDPA
Hey guys, I just wana know if any of you know how to make your phone connect using hsdpa only. Because this is realy fast compared to other connections, and its annoying when the device switches to gprs or some other type of connection which makes the net super slow.
Ok GSM is a wireless technology like CDMA it has very little to do with actual data use.
GPRS(2G), EDGE(2.5G), UMTS(3G), HSDPA (also 3G), HSUPA(3G yet again), HSPA+(3.5G) All of these, are technologies that allow internet connectivity or data transfer, at different speeds. Depending on the tech your service provider uses your speeds will vary, that being said, you, don't pay extra when your connection switches.
GPRS: General Packet Radio Service...
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Hey guys, it seems that you can simply select WCDMA only option in your setting to connect using only HSDPA.
I have an annoying problem with my Touch HD. When I get out of the 3G network range, the phone seems to switch to EDGE but the Internet connection terminates (the title bar icon switches from range bars to the antenna image). Even after I disconnect manually (the phone still thinks it's connected), it won't negotiate GPRS/EDGE connection until I reach 3G network range again or I turn off the radio and log into GSM network again. The other way (2G -> 3G) works fine.
I have the original radio version 1.09.25.14 and ROM 1.14.405.3 (22273) WWE. I've tried different band settings (auto and UMTS 2100 + GSM 900/1800) but it doesn't help.
Do I have to flash the radio? I don't really want that, apart from that problem the phone's working fine. The problem annoys me a lot, especially when I'm listening to network radios in my car.
I've searched the forums but haven't found anything on that.
stable connection in "H" mode - as long as there is no connection interruption
Hi together,
I have the following issue with my HD2:
I have a stable data connection in mode "H" as long as there is no connection interruption. After new connect I have only "3G" and if for example the weather is updated or the browser is opend it changes for a short time to "H". Afterwards the mode is "3G" again. This remains until I start the HD2 again!
Any help?
thanks and cheers,
alkorsi
3g and H keep switching depending upon signal strength to edge and gprrs too, but i dont think there is any real speed difference practically between 3g and H (though H is called as 3.5G)...may be your carrier is not Hsdpa/HSPA enabled?