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From my experience, I have received better battery life, reception and speed with the .23 radio, since upgraded the spl with haykuro's new one, I have been a bit afraid to downgrade the radio on my phone (running Ion as of today, amazing!). I was wondering if I am the only one who experienced this? And yeah, I did search the forums, however, the thread that was previously up could not be continued as it was no longer a valid link (found the google cache of it).
For those that have tried the .23 radio, what build are you using? Also, can the radio affect applications? I know that from my WinMo days it could, and obviously from our experience with the new spl, it can also in here, but what about the .23 radio with 1.5 ROMs?
What are your experiences with the differences in the sapphire (.23) radio and the newer .26I one? If that thread before was locked or removed and that is the reason why the link is no longer valid, I apologize to the mods and you can lock this thread, I just wanted to continue the discussion on this topic, as if we are getting better reception and battery life from a different radio, why take a step back?
-Brandon
I had the radio 23 on my device and the bluetooth in my car doesn't work with the Dream.. I saw the contacts list, I could receive a call, but I was not able to make a call at all... After upgrading to the new radio everithing goes well, and now bluetooth works correctly! so IMHO the new radio is far better than the old one!
Where to download .23 radio? Links on Haykuros site is not working so there might be some trouble with it?
New radio is great if your in a 3g area I think those of us in EDGE can agree it kills battery very fast I have gone back to .23 radio as I get much better battery life in my EDGE are.
I'm looking around and can't find the .23 radio. Do you have a link?
Here ya go uploaded just for you...
http://rapidshare.com/files/238547044/Radio_Sapphire_2_22_19_23.zip
NexVision said:
New radio is great if your in a 3g area I think those of us in EDGE can agree it kills battery very fast I have gone back to .23 radio as I get much better battery life in my EDGE are.
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i'm in an EDGE area -- 26I seems to have increased my battery life.
maybe it does different things on different handsets?!
With .23, I was always in 3G but my wifi wont work with .23. With .26, I am always switching back and forth between 3G, edge, and GPRS but wifi works fine. I have both radios on my sd and flash between the two frequently just because I'm not sure which one I like better.
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With .23, I was always in 3G but my wifi wont work with .23. With .26, I am always switching back and forth between 3G, edge, and GPRS but wifi works fine. I have both radios on my sd and flash between the two frequently just because I'm not sure which one I like better.
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Agreed. .26 always has me switching all the time and it's pretty annoying. Makes the Market a real pain.
I also like .23 A LOT better since it was significantly faster; unfortunately .26I will be required for Hero and it's required for 6.0r1 so I'm stuck with it
It maybe required for hero but I doubt it. It is not in anyway require for 6.01 as I was using 6.01 and went back to 5.02 and im still using older radio.
Based on what I know about radios from PPC side a radio will never be requirement for rom SPL is a whole nother story and radio maybe required to flash certain SPL. Rom should not require certain radio though.
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It maybe required for hero but I doubt it. It is not in anyway require for 6.01 as I was using 6.01 and went back to 5.02 and im still using older radio.
Based on what I know about radios from PPC side a radio will never be requirement for rom SPL is a whole nother story and radio maybe required to flash certain SPL. Rom should not require certain radio though.
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Interesting, though it makes a lot of sense, I don't know why I always thought the two were inclusive. Wasn't there something about the new SPL bricking non .26I phones?
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With .23, I was always in 3G but my wifi wont work with .23. With .26, I am always switching back and forth between 3G, edge, and GPRS but wifi works fine. I have both radios on my sd and flash between the two frequently just because I'm not sure which one I like better.
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i used to live in RI, and the new radio was great. I has 3g all the time. i moved to miami last week, and all day i go from 3g-edge-gprs. i called t mo and they said there's nothing they can do.
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i used to live in RI, and the new radio was great. I has 3g all the time. i moved to miami last week, and all day i go from 3g-edge-gprs. i called t mo and they said there's nothing they can do.
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Where in Miami? I get 3G 90% of the time all over Miami (Downtown, Coral Gables, Kendall, West Kendall, South Miami). My only EDGE areas are a little zone between Brickel and Little Havana / Coconut Grove.
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Where in Miami? I get 3G 90% of the time all over Miami (Downtown, Coral Gables, Kendall, West Kendall, South Miami). My only EDGE areas are a little zone between Brickel and Little Havana / Coconut Grove.
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I'm in Miami and I get 3G, Edge, etc switching all the time as well. Very disappointed in Tmob down here. It's especially bad around Sunset/87th ave area.
Im in Jupiter and I only get edge and wifi..... :/
I am still running original Cupcake. Is it sufficient to use a Goldcard to flash different Radios? Or do I need Root and/or a different SPL?
I have BT issues with original Cupcake Radio .26I, so need a different Radio.
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I updated my radio earlier today to 2.42.00.03.10 and have PRL 60663. I am seeing a significant increase in battery life. Is anyone else seeing this or is it just my imagination? I'm running the new DamageControl 2.06 ROM.
I am running under the same conditions and have definitely seen better battery life.
I have seen better battery life with this radio too.
Also...I more than doubled my battery life by going into settings>Wireless and Networks>Mobile Network Settings> and UNCHECK "enable always-on mobile..."
Then I went into Settings>Location> Uncheck "Use wireless Networks", and Check "Use GPS".
With these settings and GPS on, I used my phone pretty heavily for 15 hours and had 54% battery life when I went to bed.
The only thing is that with enable always-on mobile unchecked, your phone only updates data when the screen is on, which means that it will only fetch emails/gmails when you turn the screen on. If it's idle, you won't get your gmail, but if the screen is on (for any reason)...then it'll fetch and update all your data. For me it's worth it to get my gmails a little later and more than doubling my battery life.
Hope this helps someone
I have definitely seen an increase in battery life with this new Radio.
I'm new to Radios... Since this new radio seems good, how do I go about flashing it? Is it a zip file like if I were doing a rom?
danman132x said:
I'm new to Radios... Since this new radio seems good, how do I go about flashing it? Is it a zip file like if I were doing a rom?
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How To: Flash a Radio Update Sprint HTC Hero
Download: Radio Baseband 2.42.00.03.10 for Sprint CDMA Hero
That should be everything you need. Ask away if you have any questions.
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How To: Flash a Radio Update Sprint HTC Hero
Download: Radio Baseband 2.42.00.03.10 for Sprint CDMA Hero
That should be everything you need. Ask away if you have any questions.
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Thanks! My baseband is still 1.04.01.09.21
Haven't had any battery issues, but an update should be well worth it.
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How To: Flash a Radio Update Sprint HTC Hero
Download: Radio Baseband 2.42.00.03.10 for Sprint CDMA Hero
That should be everything you need. Ask away if you have any questions.
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hey flipz figured i would try to catch you wjile your on and before you dissappear like zorro have you found any concrete facts upon the location variable to this radio...i see nothing but positive things about it although i dont see the positive effects...im still go back to the eris radio for fresh 2.0b2 and works the best for me...im also in northwest ohio but i figured the radio things had to be like a east coast west coast thing...any insight?
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hey flipz figured i would try to catch you wjile your on and before you dissappear like zorro have you found any concrete facts upon the location variable to this radio...i see nothing but positive things about it although i dont see the positive effects...im still go back to the eris radio for fresh 2.0b2 and works the best for me...im also in northwest ohio but i figured the radio things had to be like a east coast west coast thing...any insight?
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In theory they are designed to work the same everywhere. Once an update rolls out it will only be one radio, just the same as our 1.5 one was. However without a doubt, some seem to work better for people based on their area and it's always been that way on every phone. Unfortunately there is no concrete way to know which one will work better for people. I suppose it just depends on what hardware they are using in the towers around you. But I'm not a mobile network engineer so I'm honestly not 100% sure.
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In theory they are designed to work the same everywhere. Once an update rolls out it will only be one radio, just the same as our 1.5 one was. However without a doubt, some seem to work better for people based on their area and it's always been that way on every phone. Unfortunately there is no concrete way to know which one will work better for people. I suppose it just depends on what hardware they are using in the towers around you. But I'm not a mobile network engineer so I'm honestly not 100% sure.
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yea thats what i thought..because even when i ran 1.1 with the stock radio @ work i would never get a 3g sig...when i moved up to that 2.1 eris leak on got that new radio i got a substancially better at signal and greatly improved my battery and i couldnt of been happier...so when i saw the new new radio i was like wow can it even get better??? but then it was same as stock radio basically i never got a 3g sig..and i was scared about this first since the radio was i geuss for "verizon" and im now not runing the eris leak but it works great...all my co-workers on verizon always had better service than me...but ever since the eris radio i get just as much service as them btw flipz cant "flippin" wait to get 2.1 support on the kitchen!
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i was scared about this first since the radio was i geuss for "verizon"
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Yea, on my touch pro I used to use a telus radio on Sprint because it gave me the best signal and speed. It wasn't the newest version or even made for Sprint, but it's what worked for me in my city!
ive seen a great improvement with this radio on 2.0d. they seem to have tweaked the bars b/c now im at 4-6 whereas previously id be 2-4, though the dbm is right around the same as always at home. i am, however, getting through the day with 50% battery left whereas before i would be 20% or less
Improved Battery and Radio performance in NYC. THANKS
Wait flipz... so you're saying we could use Verizon radios on our phones if we live in an area where Verizon gets excellent signal everywhere, and then our phone (on Sprint) would get signal like a Verizon phone?
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Then I went into Settings>Location> Uncheck "Use wireless Networks", and Check "Use GPS".
With these settings and GPS on, I used my phone pretty heavily for 15 hours and had 54% battery life when I went to bed.
i don't know how you can say that you get more battery life with this tweak. In my nexus righ next to the box where you can chek this option, has the following saying: "uses more battery"... is to you to think about.
Sent from my Nexus One using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
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mrinehart93 said:
Wait flipz... so you're saying we could use Verizon radios on our phones if we live in an area where Verizon gets excellent signal everywhere, and then our phone (on Sprint) would get signal like a Verizon phone?
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It worked for WinMO. I used to use a Telus radio on my diamond. But I'm not sure I'd mess with flashing other vendor's radios on your hero. TECHNICALLY it should work. But I wouldn't want to be the test case.
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i just downloaded this radio to see what all the fuss was about, and in my room it dropped my signal, now it keeps going back and forth to 1x now just over and over, im using the new damage rom, you guys think if i change to the newest flipz maybe it would be different. i know this sounds strange but i do feel like with certain roms i get better signal in my home, cause i tried the previous damage roms and all the previous flipz and for some reason i always get better signal in my home with the flipz roms! im just a confused soul.......
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Then I went into Settings>Location> Uncheck "Use wireless Networks", and Check "Use GPS".
With these settings and GPS on, I used my phone pretty heavily for 15 hours and had 54% battery life when I went to bed.
i don't know how you can say that you get more battery life with this tweak. In my nexus righ next to the box where you can chek this option, has the following saying: "uses more battery"... is to you to think about.
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That's why I'm saying to uncheck it. Cuz the option to have it checked uses more battery. Read it again.
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Would this Radio be compatible with Cyanogen 6.1 froyo extremely blue rom? its 2.2.1 android.
Embargho101 said:
Would this Radio be compatible with Cyanogen 6.1 froyo extremely blue rom? its 2.2.1 android.
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This thread is old. There are newer radios out.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
okay im running pancake 1.5 and i have the latest prl version. i noticed my signal is worse now than before and it drops out alot. could there be a fix for this? maybe roll back to a previous prl? im also noticing the phone gets laggy at times, then i loose the evo icon, then it comes back after 30 seconds.... idea's???
Which radio (baseband) are you running?
im running flipz prl and radio
cant vouch for battery
can definatly vouch for signal
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Which radio (baseband) are you running?
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the stock one for 1.5 i guess, i haven't installed any other ones. im currently flashing your 2.1 rom...do you recommend a custom radio?
You can always revert you just have to find someone that has the old PRL file.. If you give me a little bit, I might be able to find that for you on my old service computer.. It crapped out last week so I don't know if I still have it or not..
The PRL lets the phone know how it is supposed to interact with roaming towers, so if the updated PRL removed a tower near you, due to contract or whatever, you are most likely having your issue because of that.. Also, if it adds a tower that previously wasn't in your PRL, you could be polling between the two, back and forth with no solid connection, that would explain the EV drop..
Also, if the output was decreased for whatever reason, you could just be too far away from the tower...
Give me a little while, and I will PM you if I can find a way for you to revert. I am pretty sure you have to have RMS so you might not be able to with my file..
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the stock one for 1.5 i guess, i haven't installed any other ones. im currently flashing your 2.1 rom...do you recommend a custom radio?
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Yea definitely upgrade the radio. They actually aren't custom radios, just ones stripped from newer roms or phones.
Check http://geekfor.me/radio for the list. The newest one out is http://geekfor.me/radio/radio-242000310/ which 90% of people have better battery life and signal quality. However depending on where you live and what equipment is used in your area, that isn't always the cost. Most of the people who aren't using 2.42 are using this one http://geekfor.me/radio/radio-241040203/
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You can always revert you just have to find someone that has the old PRL file.. If you give me a little bit, I might be able to find that for you on my old service computer.. It crapped out last week so I don't know if I still have it or not..
The PRL lets the phone know how it is supposed to interact with roaming towers, so if the updated PRL removed a tower near you, due to contract or whatever, you are most likely having your issue because of that.. Also, if it adds a tower that previously wasn't in your PRL, you could be polling between the two, back and forth with no solid connection, that would explain the EV drop..
Also, if the output was decreased for whatever reason, you could just be too far away from the tower...
Give me a little while, and I will PM you if I can find a way for you to revert. I am pretty sure you have to have RMS so you might not be able to with my file..
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wow man you are smart(i mean that in most literal sense possible)
if what he says is true (i dont doubt it is) then id advice switching between the two and experimenting. i know avalaunch posted a solid method of rollback, alltho i believe it concerns a hard reset, and your msl, which is apprently hard to get. good luck, i think the guy i qouted would be more of a help.
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Yea definitely upgrade the radio. They actually aren't custom radios, just ones stripped from newer roms or phones.
Check http://geekfor.me/radio for the list. The newest one out is http://geekfor.me/radio/radio-242000310/ which 90% of people have better battery life and signal quality. However depending on where you live and what equipment is used in your area, that isn't always the cost. Most of the people who aren't using 2.42 are using this one http://geekfor.me/radio/radio-241040203/
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can i flash back to stock radio if need be? thanks though, ill give it a go!
Yeah Ill be honest. I think in my area, I got better signal before using the 2.42. I think Im gonna roll back and see how it goes.
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can i flash back to stock radio if need be? thanks though, ill give it a go!
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Yup there is a link to download/flash the stock one in there too. http://geekfor.me/radio/baseband-104010921/
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can i flash back to stock radio if need be? thanks though, ill give it a go!
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ah, see now here i can help. avalaunch also posted the stock radio a long time ago, flashable in recovery, and i can vouch for a sucssful flash and rollback. decided new radio in combo of flipz prl indeed boosted my signal. like i said, no go on the battery but overall worth it in the end.
i do have to say, because i was warned, radio flashing is indeed tricky buisness, do some reading up.
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Yeah Ill be honest. I think in my area, I got better signal before using the 2.42. I think Im gonna roll back and see how it goes.
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Because, as I have said numerous times before, and no one listens, the service you are getting is dependent on your a)location b)distance from tower c) PRL (for roaming and interconnectivity with other towers)..
The only thing the radio does is manage the signal power input and output of a device..
yeah im going back to the stock radio, the 2.1 radio signal was far worse.
Ive noticed just after the other day my phone roams almost constantly, I have the 60664 PRL and yet it still roams even in my own house. What can I do?
Below is the link to the combined Radios from the latest 2.11 RUU
Enjoy Everyone!!!
This is the same LTE radio as in the 2.10 RUU but an Updated CDMA radio.
Package Size: 25.4MB
http://www.multiupload.com/W78CDD3QZE
MD5: a6d25851cbb7d20fdb2e4f16ee420086
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Below is the link to the combined Radios from the latest 2.11 RUU
Enjoy Everyone!!!
http://www.multiupload.com/M8D6QKO888
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How come the package is so large? I know that the LTE and 3G individually are 10-12MB a piece, so 50MB seems large.
An MD5 would be much appreciated.
Included as much info as I could now!
Updated with Compressed File and Updated MD5
What are the version numbers?
If the LTE is the same as the last update and you flash it won't you brick? Or does that only apply to the actual radio?
Seems to be working fine for me, obviously can't comment on battery life, but 4g works as normal, and it hasn't crashed in the 3 whole minutes I've used it. Hopefully I'll have useful input tomorrow.
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What are the version numbers?
If the LTE is the same as the last update and you flash it won't you brick? Or does that only apply to the actual radio?
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Applying the same radio twice (LTE or CDMA) does not brick the thunderbolt. This problem exists on older phones, but not on the thunderbolt.
Hate to ask a dumb ? here.... Does it matter what type of ROM you're running, Froyo or GB?
I am getting 77-78 dBm signal , that is a stronger signal.
Sent from my Verizon LTE 4G Thunderbolt
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Hate to ask a dumb ? here.... Does it matter what type of ROM you're running, Froyo or GB?
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Yes........You need to be running GB and preferably the latest versions.
jbh00jh said:
I am getting 77-78 dBm signal , that is a stronger signal.
Sent from my Verizon LTE 4G Thunderbolt
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I was at 74-76db, on the last radio, now flashed this one and getting 82-86db
is it lower the db the better?
topaz330 said:
is it lower the db the better?
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Yes.
Sent from my Verizon LTE 4G Thunderbolt
GreginNH said:
I was at 74-76db, on the last radio, now flashed this one and getting 82-86db
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Where you live gives different results. This is the first leaked radio that has increased my signal strength.
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Getting -72 on the radio, but LTE speeds are 4-6mpbs when they were going at 12mpbs on MR2
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How's the battery life/drain on this radio compared to the MR2 OTA radio?
Im getting excellent signal but my battery has drained from full charge 30% since 9:30 a.m.. my battery life was way better with the same amount of usage with the last updates radio so im going back.
After a full 24 hrs on this Radio, here are my results, so far:
1) Battery life... about the same, but probably too soon to really tell. I'm in LA, and pretty much always on 4G
2) Signal strength.. about the same, almost always connected on 4G
3) Speed... my upload is faster than before. I'm getting around 6Mb up average, and I ran speedtest probably 20 times; on prior radio's, I would get around 4.5Mb to 5MB consistently. Download still varies, between 8mb to 12mb generally.
overall, not much difference, but no downside that I can see, so sticking with this radio for now
I'm Waiting to Upgrade the Radio on Mine to This for a Few Days Until the "Official" ROM Update Release is Done...
I had to Warranty Out a Bolt Cause After Switching Radios a Few Times It Would Stay on 3G Constantly! Annoying I received the replacement and it came with the official MR2 Radio Installed and I haven't Had any Issues with Signal, Sometimes it Does Switch to 3G but I think It's Just Checking its Signals...
Any Suggestions..?
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Test results:
I can confidently say after 24 hours running 2.50 radio on latest March update with T-Mobile I have not had a single data drop. Weird thing is with 2.50 I actually saw the phone downgrade to H in locations it should have. The latest March radio never went to H, it was either lte or no data.
Happens at random all day long on latest stock build. Absolutely bs. Any Ideas
same for me. After updating to the Match update, I've been having data drop out randomly.
Did a fresh factory image install. Let's see what happens. Ran the n update for a day and didn't have the problem.
It's the radio, install 2.50
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It's the radio, install 2.50
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Flashing 2.50 now will report back
I have the same issue now with the March update.
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I have the same issue now with the March update.
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It's the March update and T-Mobile. Happens at random and some how settings get changed to wcdma preferred in *#*#4636#*#*. Only way to fix is reboot as airplane mode does nothing. I'm flashing 2.50 radio tonight after work to see if it fixes it.p
Flashed 2.50. So far so good. Needs a full day of testing
12 hrs no drop!
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12 hrs no drop!
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Same thing happened to me so many times, mch19i, just thought about the radio thing today.
Flag to see it working for you.
Tmobile, LTE drops to wcdma, restoring stj fixes but comes back eventually. Hope this works
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Same thing happened to me so many times, mch19i, just thought about the radio thing today.
Flag to see it working for you.
Tmobile, LTE drops to wcdma, restoring stj fixes but comes back eventually. Hope this works
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It will work. Currently running sinless with AK kernel and have zero issues. I used so many Roms thinking it was a ROM issue and haven't had a drop in 24 hrs. Also speeds but 90mbs down and 40 up today with this radio. I was lucky if I hit 40 down with the March update radio.
I've been getting the same issues, now reading that radio 2.5 is helping, can you tell me where I can find it please.
I just went back to radio 2.50 on my MHC19I phone (T-Mobile). We shall see if it helps. As my cellular has been terrible since I flashed MHC19I (the build everyone is raving about).
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I've been getting the same issues, now reading that radio 2.5 is helping, can you tell me where I can find it please.
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4qYa0JLAsBGWlVsODg1T0FIMjA/view?usp=docslist_api
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I guess this need to be done from fastboot, or can I do it on recovery? Thanks
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I guess this need to be done from fastboot, or can I do it on recovery? Thanks
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Rename to radio, fastboot flash radio radio.img
On t-mobile in the LA area, and after updating to the March patch, was getting data drops randomly throughout the day. never had a problem with any of the other builds, and after flashing the old radio it works again, and no more data drops (been 2 days now).
OT question, im new on TMobile, and not sure if this is related to the radio or is because Tmobile just throttle my data, im on unlimited plan and after Flash the radio my speed was reduced dramatically not even getting 5Mb download speed, just check my usage and has 11.5Gb so far, thanks for your help
I'm a UK user on an EE 4G plan. Coverage isn't great in my area so my phone has always switched accordingly between 2G/HSDPA/LTE networks.
I recently updated to the latest March release of Pure Nexus and updated the bootloader and radio accordingly as was advised. Since then I have not noticed any improvement or decrease in signal level. However, it has been randomly reporting no data connection in apps when the phone is obviously displaying a strong connection in the status bar. I highly suspected the latest radio had something to do with it, but after hearing so many people raving about 3.61 fixing all their LTE issues I was a bit confused.
I'm about to flash back to 2.50 radio to see if it fixes the problem whilst staying on MHC19I release. Perhaps the updated radio only helped those with LTE problems in the USA?