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3G OTA

Well I would hate to jump on this prematurely but I've noticed today my 3G has been strong and seems to be working the way it should be. Wish I had another 3G phone to match it up to but I don't. Anyone else here notice better 3G, think maybe google quietly rolled out and OTA?

And Where is here? Mine has always been fine in Vegas!

phoenix, az

I doubt a device is gonna update itself without notifying

good point, but i haven't had solid 3G to speak of until today, had it all day.

the taxidermist said:
Well I would hate to jump on this prematurely but I've noticed today my 3G has been strong and seems to be working the way it should be. Wish I had another 3G phone to match it up to but I don't. Anyone else here notice better 3G, think maybe google quietly rolled out and OTA?
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Did you check to see if maybe you have a new firmware version?

its just 2.1 but day 2 and still strong 3g, either way im happy!

i noticed after the weekend of data outages, my 3G has been really solid since. both yesterday and today i listened to slacker throughout the entire work day without any hiccups...

the taxidermist said:
phoenix, az
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Had my N1 since the 6th and never had 3G problems here in Phoenix; however, since Cyanogen added the "H" icon, I'd notice it would flash between 3G and H at random, and it 'does' seem to hold "H" longer now... interesting...

Well my polar clock is not FC'ing on any settings anymore, which is a bit odd...
I would assume though that you would get a notification if they did an update.

My polar clock isn't FC-ing either anymore. I seem to remember someone saying that it was date-dependent (the bug that caused the FC), so maybe it's just since Feb 1st.

My Polar Clock doesn't FC anymore either! And I tried it only yesterday, or two days ago and it was totally FC'ing. Wow. Something happened...
Possibly another time bug similar to the Droid Camera bug??
[Edit]: Actually, it may be related to the month sphere... Maybe it doesn't work at the end of the month

Are you guys talking about the FC's that we were getting by using one of the dynamic Polar Clocks?

gunnner said:
My polar clock isn't FC-ing either anymore. I seem to remember someone saying that it was date-dependent (the bug that caused the FC), so maybe it's just since Feb 1st.
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Ah ye, I remember now. It was a programming bug that caused it to FC the whole of january.

An FOTA update is being out pushed imminently, but correct, it will always warn you prior to installing..

Flaky connections

Ever since the last OTA update I have had issues with data connections, and the signal itself seems to drop randomly. I am less than 2 miles from the tower, and on my Galaxy Tab the signal is nice and steady. On the Evo, sometimes I have not only no 3G but not even slower than heck connection (no 4G where I am staying at the moment.)
I've reloaded with no change in behavior. I am completely stock, and unrooted. Revision 003 device in case that matters.
Thanks...

I started a thread on this last week, what worked for me was downgrading the radio to the second latest instead of the latest. Haven't had that issue since. Ymmv though
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It's a sprint thing. Im rooted with older version of fresh and yes, recently the data connection has just dropped. Browser sits idle and I get impatient. Claims I've read come from theories that sprint is configuring network for both data and voice at same time. Svdo. So I dunno, we'll see what pans out.
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fachadick said:
I started a thread on this last week, what worked for me was downgrading the radio to the second latest instead of the latest. Haven't had that issue since. Ymmv though
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How do you downgrade the radio?

mbaseball3 said:
It's a sprint thing. Im rooted with older version of fresh and yes, recently the data connection has just dropped. Browser sits idle and I get impatient. Claims I've read come from theories that sprint is configuring network for both data and voice at same time. Svdo. So I dunno, we'll see what pans out.
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It's also a sprint thing. My speeds are the same, but at least I get a consistent data signal now - before I downgraded, my evdo signal would just disappear for a minute or two periodically before coming back. It hasn't happened at all since I downgraded my radio.
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How do you downgrade the radio?
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this thread, but make sure you let it go for a while when flashing - DON'T PULL THE BATTERY. It may take a long time to fully flash, but don't get impatient and pull the battery, people have bricked their phones doing that. just let it do it's thing. There should be additional instructions in that thread if you've never flashed a radio before and the radio that worked best for me was EVO_Radio_2.15.00.09.01.

Great. I'll try. I don't mind mucking with PCs since I work with computers for a living, but when it comes to my phone I'm really careful- especially since I'm job hunting these days. Can't afford to brick the phone, but this is a bit difficult since it is often unwilling to connect.

Wifi Dropping =[

Hey guys. I have noticed ever since i've gotten my Atrix that the wifi is always getting dropped when im inside a bedroom or some 20 ft away from the router. At first i thought it might have been just my router having issues but my laptop never experienced any wifi droppage like that though. The only times i don't get dropped signals are when im actually right infront of my router
I've read that sim-unlocked devices may experience this issue but mine isn't, or at least i don't think it is. I bought it from n AT&T store and im pretty sure they wouldn't sell an unlocked device, ever...
So my question is then, has anyone found a solution to this? I mean it's starting to become a real big hassle having to wait for my connection to come back up so i can continue using my phone
Even if you don't have a solution, please post here if you are also having the same issues because i'd like to know if its just my phone thats defective or not. My brother also bought an Atrix lest than a month ago and its having the same issue so i have no clue if either both our devices are defective or if its a general issues most users are having, cause if so, i think Atrix users should either get a refund or at least an update to fix this issue.

I have the same exact issue on my Bell atrix.
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Same here as well.
No issues with previous devices or the 9700, Torch, Captivate or iPhone that others in the household use or my laptop come to that. Just the Atrix.
Mine is just rooted and currently running GreyBlur but not unlocked.
Just down loaded WiFi Analyzer from the Market to see if that can shed light on the issue.

make sure that you are not on a battary save or custom battary mode, cuz it's droping the wifi connection every time the phone goes to sleep mode.
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O thx was trying to figure it out
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by default wifi goes to sleep as soon as the display goes off. you need to get into advanced wifi settings (wifi settings->menu->advanced) and change sleep policy to never

Now that is a useful bit of info
Thankyou !

Its not the sleep policy all tho that'll help the majority of ppl here. Mine drops during certain load points like getting updates from market or refreshing xda... Now to be honest after flashing the telstra rom it has disappeared.
Hopefully that little bit of code that capped our atrix was the culprit and an update will fix that bad boy
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Yeah I've always had my phone set to performance mode and had the wifi sleep policy always set to never. But still the problem persists
But I guess ill try out the 1.4.2 SBC since that sewed to remedy the problem for one user. Nit sure if it'll work for me though cause I'm w att and that SBF seems to be for Bell Atrixs.
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Wifi & GPS signal on my phone just sucks, so I requested a new device from ATT warranty/exchange department. It should be here next week. I hoped we would get an update to address this yesterday, but I only know of 2-3 people receiving an update this week.

TfzSCVang said:
Yeah I've always had my phone set to performance mode and had the wifi sleep policy always set to never. But still the problem persists
But I guess ill try out the 1.4.2 SBC since that sewed to remedy the problem for one user. Nit sure if it'll work for me though cause I'm w att and that SBF seems to be for Bell Atrixs.
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I have the same problem wifi drops out alot and I have it set to never sleep and performance mode but yet it drops all the time!
By the way DO NOT FLASH THE BELL SBF ON AN ATT DEVICE OR YOU WILL BRICK FOR SURE!

I really hope you att guys can get hspa unlocked similar to the telstra sbf. It has completely changed my phone.
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I'm another one with wifi dropping even with the right configuration. Is an update the only hope to get a decent wifi?

Gutterball said:
I have the same problem wifi drops out alot and I have it set to never sleep and performance mode but yet it drops all the time!
By the way DO NOT FLASH THE BELL SBF ON AN ATT DEVICE OR YOU WILL BRICK FOR SURE!
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Haha thx. I was hoping for a response to that before I actually did it just in case people have already tried it or its known that it will brick the device.
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Yep, i have this problem as well. Haven't seen this on LG Optimus X2, also i've got SE Mini X10 for my mom a few days ago and it's behaves much better in this respect, does not drops wi-fi at all. My Atrix drops wi-fi every 10-15 minutes when in the far room, other android phones, nokia phones, laptops and netbooks does not drop connection in the same place, so it's certainly Atrix problem. Let's hope the fix will come

Gutterball said:
I have the same problem wifi drops out alot and I have it set to never sleep and performance mode but yet it drops all the time!
By the way DO NOT FLASH THE BELL SBF ON AN ATT DEVICE OR YOU WILL BRICK FOR SURE!
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Am I missing something? I don't think the Bell Atrix has its SBF release. Are you thinking of the Telstra Atrix's SBF?
I found this app called Wifi fixer: https://market.android.com/details?id=org.wahtod.wififixer
Has anyone tried this?
I've noticed my Wifi dropping after 10-20 minutes of being used. It's very annoying. Bell Atrix with sim unlock and rooted

Are you holding it wrong?

Airfare said:
Are you holding it wrong?
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LOL, no. I wish that were the case cause if so, it wouldn't drop the connection when i have it on the table and just play around with it =/

This is why I returned my atrix. I was hoping one of the updates fixed it as I was considering picking the phone back up.

motionUS said:
This is why I returned my atrix. I was hoping one of the updates fixed it as I was considering picking the phone back up.
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To be honest the updates did very little to fix anything... The HSPA+ speeds are dismal and you can barely tell any difference between your previous speeds and new speeds if you're in a 4G area but one thing for sure that the updates did do was, not surprisingly, unrooted us =]
And for us lucky ones with Atrices (same plurality as matrices?) that have wifi issues, Moto was kind enough to not fix this issues which was most likely software and not hardware, as they rolled out 2 OTA's in nice timely fashions!

[Q] Signal strength drops and semi-random reboots?

Okay, here's my problem. I've got my Samsung Epic up and running (finally), but for two annoying bugs: or it might be one bug with two parts.
One, the signal strength "wobbles" a lot, going from no bars (but still holding service) to almost full bars. I assumed at first that this is just a quirk of the preferred tower configuration around my home.
Part two is more annoying. Sometimes it will, apparently somewhat randomly, lose all signal, which prompts the phone to reboot. Actually it's not a TRUE reboot, it's just the half-reboot that happens when the Android shell crashes: return to boot animation, then reload everything. Often, it'll do this several times in a row. It was doing it horribly when I was running the AOSP version 4 ROM, so I flashed back to a semi-stock configuration (stock ROM plus ClockworkMod). But it's still doing it. Modem version is EC05, and I'm running on a Verizon MVNO. Can anyone offer suggestions?

Try updating your modem to the EI22 released modem and get on an EI22 ROM.
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Yeah, EI22 fixes most of the signal dropouts for me. Just update your modem.
On EH17 my bars would randomly go to 0 and data would drop out even though I'm parked on a repeater here at work, getting -76db signal (that's really, really good).

i just got a new (or probably refurb) phone from best buy after my original broke. (thank you black tie) and this new stock phone does this same stuff you are describing. this phone sucks! reboots, lock ups, bluetooth doesnt work, keyboard skips.. .what a joke.
so should i call sprint and try to get something other than an epic or go to best buy and have them order me another one? any suggestions?

Well, following the advice upthread I've gone ahead and installed the stock EI22 update for the Epic. We'll see how it turns out.

goblue30093 said:
i just got a new (or probably refurb) phone from best buy after my original broke. (thank you black tie) and this new stock phone does this same stuff you are describing. this phone sucks! reboots, lock ups, bluetooth doesnt work, keyboard skips.. .what a joke.
so should i call sprint and try to get something other than an epic or go to best buy and have them order me another one? any suggestions?
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Black Tie is supposed to give you new phones. Keyboard skips are Samsung's error. Flash a custom ROM with the fixes implemented by the DEVs here.

Followup: after flashing the Sprint stock EI22 ROM, I'm still getting wacky signal strength fluctuations, but it's stopped resetting, which makes me happy. I'd be happier if I could get it to stick with the strong signal, but I'll live.

Try using an app like Network Info or Tasker to see if your phone is hopping towers while the signal is fluctuating. Maybe a PRL update will help.

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Followup: after flashing the Sprint stock EI22 ROM, I'm still getting wacky signal strength fluctuations, but it's stopped resetting, which makes me happy. I'd be happier if I could get it to stick with the strong signal, but I'll live.
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It could be maintenance or a tower failing near you.

kennyglass123 said:
Black Tie is supposed to give you new phones. Keyboard skips are Samsung's error. Flash a custom ROM with the fixes implemented by the DEVs here.
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im sure you are right, but doesn't anyone think it should just work from the store? i know its a novel idea but i think top notch phones should work right out of the box.

goblue30093 said:
im sure you are right, but doesn't anyone think it should just work from the store? i know its a novel idea but i think top notch phones should work right out of the box.
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Yes it should. Unfortunately the keyboard skips have yet to be addressed by Samsung. There is a maintenance update being worked on. Some people are still getting reboots with the new OTA for Gingerbread but not many. So maybe that will be addressed as well as the keyboard skips.

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Try using an app like Network Info or Tasker to see if your phone is hopping towers while the signal is fluctuating. Maybe a PRL update will help.
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I'll try those--I was trying to use CellID Info for that purpose, but it hasn't reflected any changes at all between high signal and low signal. So far Network Info II isn't either, but we'll see. I did try a PRL update the other night, to no avail.
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It could be maintenance or a tower failing near you.
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That's possible. God knows I'm out in the middle of nowhere, so quality of service probably isn't a high priority. I haven't seen it reflected in other Verizon devices I've looked at the last couple days, but then I haven't exactly been looking at them that closely.
My signal does seem a lot more consistent today--right now I'm stuck at 2-3 out of 6 bars, but it's holding that constantly with very little variation, less even than I would think was normal. Maybe it was a network problem after all and not just my device. That would be nice.
Edit: Looks like I spoke a little too soon, as I just had one complete signal dropout. But it's still better than it was.

That could be when they just swapped out amplifiers at the tower that was giving you trouble. Also it seems Sprint service is subject to a lot of dead zones. I got a big dead spot in my house.

kennyglass123 said:
That could be when they just swapped out amplifiers at the tower that was giving you trouble. Also it seems Sprint service is subject to a lot of dead zones. I got a big dead spot in my house.
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I'm not on Sprint, it's flashed to a Verizon MVNO, so I'm on VZW towers.
Strangely, I've seen my AT&T Android phone lose signal too a couple times today--which is bizarre, because it almost never does that. AT&T around here is only 2G, and slow 2G at that, but the signal is very reliable. Just enough to make me wonder if something weird is going on locally.

In case anyone's still interested in this: it's still doing it, so it's pretty clearly the phone. However when I took it into a building where there's normally poor signal, it stopped doing it and held the stronger signal. Is it possible that because this is a Sprint radio, it's trying to default to 1900 MHz, instead of the stronger 850 signal?

so many updates coming for the s6

each time i find a new thread/problem theres usually somebody whos talked to samsung and been told itll be fix in a update. thats gotta be a ton of update just to get a working phone.
so far i have read
always on flash
radio/antanna on verizon models getting no/bad lte signal with dropped calls
screen rotation not working
screen problems
phones getting too hot
and im sure i missed some
while one big update would be nicer that would prbly take forever to release

I havent got any of these issues. (International SGS6)
Usually people that aren't happy with something complain/make noise and those that are happy don't create a load of threads ergo it looks like people are unsatisfied with their SGS6 whereas its probably the complete opposite.

Jrhoop said:
I havent got any of these issues. (International SGS6)
Usually people that aren't happy with something complain/make noise and those that are happy don't create a load of threads ergo it looks like people are unsatisfied with their SGS6 whereas its probably the complete opposite.
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your flash isnt always on? (check in the dark,it might be very dim)

Nope my flash isn't on either.... UK phone.

My flash stays on randomly. No other issues except cell standby draining the heck out of my battery. Tmobile s6.

well thats confusing, is samsung lying about the update then?

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My flash stays on randomly. No other issues except cell standby draining the heck out of my battery. Tmobile s6.
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I'm wondering if it's a WiFi Direct / Quickconnect bug. If I turn off WiFi, it's much better on LTE.

None of those issues with my Canadian S6 .. been great so far!

LexusNoodles said:
My flash stays on randomly. No other issues except cell standby draining the heck out of my battery. Tmobile s6.
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Fingers Crossed. Same here too. Just battery draining sometimes. But next when i am back after a business trip. i will factory reset the device and see if it helps. Seems issue with wifi.

Phone just released
take it easy it will get better
so far im having a blast and have zero problems

GreeleyXda said:
each time i find a new thread/problem theres usually somebody whos talked to samsung and been told itll be fix in a update. thats gotta be a ton of update just to get a working phone.
so far i have read
always on flash
radio/antanna on verizon models getting no/bad lte signal with dropped calls
screen rotation not working
screen problems
phones getting too hot
and im sure i missed some
while one big update would be nicer that would prbly take forever to release
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You're the first person I hear that complaints about updates. Just don't get the phone.

barondebxl said:
You're the first person I hear that complaints about updates. Just don't get the phone.
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im not complaining about updates, more so that the phone needs so many to function properly
you can see yourself on xda that the verizon model is having signal problems (drops to 3g in areas where theres strong 4g signal) and that it requires on update to fix that.
my s6 arrives monday so ill double check.
ive played with a display model and the phone is great its just the software problems

Got the t-mobile S6 and my phone is not having any of these problems, i freakin' LOVE this phone!
I did have a battery drain problem, after rooting it would not go into deep sleep mode. Simply rebooted to stock recovery, wiped cache, problem solved!
I've been an extremely heavy user since getting this phone and have had my screen on emailing/playing games/reddit browsing/texting/etc for 6+ hours a day. Since wiping cache, my battery holds like a champ. When the screen is off, it uses close to zero battery...maybe .5% per hour. Usually end up going to bed with around 20% battery left.
Could not be happier.

GreeleyXda said:
im not complaining about updates, more so that the phone needs so many to function properly
you can see yourself on xda that the verizon model is having signal problems (drops to 3g in areas where theres strong 4g signal) and that it requires on update to fix that.
my s6 arrives monday so ill double check.
ive played with a display model and the phone is great its just the software problems
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Well if you look at IOS, it also gets a lot of update to either fix things or improve things. The iPhone 6 came out with IOS 8 but there I already 8.4 in the works I the works, that just how it goes. I dont mind updates at all, even 3 a day if it is to improve the device. Better that than no updates.
I understand your point though, you think Samsung should have thoroughly tested the S6 before release but for example, things like carrier bloatware and cell reception is out of Samsung hands.

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Well if you look at IOS, it also gets a lot of update to either fix things or improve things. The iPhone 6 came out with IOS 8 but there I already 8.4 in the works I the works, that just how it goes. I dont mind updates at all, even 3 a day if it is to improve the device. Better that than no updates.
I understand your point though, you think Samsung should have thoroughly tested the S6 before release but for example, things like carrier bloatware and cell reception is out of Samsung hands.
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its not a tower or antena issure, is a software issue that samsung says its aware of. people who alrdy have a verizon s6 are dropping calls and just in general having worst reception than a S4 did.
what carrier gets 3 updates a day?
im on verizon where they have a record of giving their updates later than other carriers.
i dont mind good updates, its just from the time it takes for you to receive a update fix you have to be with a phone that has problems

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its not a tower or antena issure, is a software issue that samsung says its aware of. people who alrdy have a verizon s6 are dropping calls and just in general having worst reception than a S4 did.
what carrier gets 3 updates a day?
im on verizon where they have a record of giving their updates later than other carriers.
i dont mind good updates, its just from the time it takes for you to receive a update fix you have to be with a phone that has problems
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You're talking about the Verizon one as if its the only version of the galaxy s6, I'm talking about all versions in general. None are getting 3 a day to my knowledge, but that was an example that even if it's 3 a day to improve the phone then I wouldn't mind.

Being early adopters we have to accept that there will be issues with any launch. Many of these problems don't present themselves until they are in the hands of the masses. Things like battery drain from cell standby or WiFi and poor signal maintenance are definitely YMMV type of situations as we've seen here in the forums. If the testers don't use WiFi and live in strong signal areas then they may not experience any of those problems
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There is also certain amount of fault on the carriers be cause they go through and modify/gut the original software.

Who cares about software problems can be fixed with an update.
Real issue here is hardware defects like pink tint and scratched screens that cannot be fixed and only choice is to return phone and pay restocking fee.

demonwind said:
Who cares about software problems can be fixed with an update.
Real issue here is hardware defects like pink tint and scratched screens that cannot be fixed and only choice is to return phone and pay restocking fee.
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true but I guess at least someone could return it for a fix while software will be bugged until a fix comes out which no one knows how long that will take. Even with the issues I freaking love this phone!

why do u have to pay a restocking fee? you got a defective phone.