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well let me start off by saying that I have read all of the threads from day one about the fluctuation issues but have never yet experienced it myself, until today.
I have never had the issue before but today when I woke up I turned on my phone after its charge, i have never turned it off during a charge before, and I am experiencing this problem now.
My question is, is it time to root and flash a new radio to the N1? I have put off rooting because I havent had a reason to yet.
Thanks in advance for the input.
Ps. i am not new to rooting so I aint scureedddd.
oopsieee wrong section, can a mod please move this to either General or Q&A!
thanks
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oopsieee wrong section, can a mod please move this to either General or Q&A!
thanks
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I don't have an answer for ya, but I moved the thread
thanks for moving mindfrost, i had a brainfart lol.
anyone with input? i'd much appreciate it. The fluctuation is still going on but its not such a big deal because I am usually on wifi. Should I just wait for a new OTA from google?
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well let me start off by saying that I have read all of the threads from day one about the fluctuation issues but have never yet experienced it myself, until today.
I have never had the issue before but today when I woke up I turned on my phone after its charge, i have never turned it off during a charge before, and I am experiencing this problem now.
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I don't see how these things could in any way be related...Who is your carrier? You may want to contact them and see if they are having issues with a local tower or have a tower out so are now experiencing a weaker 3G signal and thus bouncing.
I am on T-Mobile, trust me I was just as confused. I know that turning off a device while charging "shouldn't" have anything to do with fluctuating signal thats the only thing I did.
Orangeandblue302 said:
I am on T-Mobile, trust me I was just as confused. I know that turning off a device while charging "shouldn't" have anything to do with fluctuating signal thats the only thing I did.
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have you tried another radio (software) version? what version are you using now?
i am on ere27
my radio is 4.03.00.21_2
he's on stock too...I only have this problem when holding the phone. Herd its normal.
I just started experiencing the 3g problem too. Didn't have this problem before. Completely stock (unrooted) with the OTA update. I thought it could just be the weather or some temporary maintenance but I've been experiencing it for about 3 days now.
Southern California area.
This better get fixed, I bought this phone the day it came out.
This is totally wierd, I have had no problems whatsoever signal wise with my nexus. Actually I have had a significant increase in quality and signal coming from a Mytouch3G. I have none of the problems at all that are described with signal, screen or anything. Got lucky I guess.
@pongalong - thats about the same time I have been experiencing the problem. Its def not the weather here because it has been beautiful the past week, highs in the 70's but in Feb we had a colossal snow storm which knocked power out and I had great signal then, its so odd.
@sinister - I didnt have any problems whatsoever until about two days ago.
Matter the towers are being worked on... one day my signal was horrid only the next day to find out the upgraded the towers where I live....
Tmobiles great here in portland oregon..
Went about 45 miles out of my area and the problem seemed to disappear (although it seemed to be around when I was indoors - probably just due to interference). Hopefully they're just doing some work in my area like mentioned above.
Any improvement or updates from the OP?
Hopefully T-Mo is almost ready for 21Mb/s.
It seems to have somewhat went away..it still fluctuates but only where I am below 2 bars of 3g. I'm getting used to just switching to 2g only in low 3g areas. Then I get full edge usually. Kinda weird but ill just wait for an update I guess.
I updated my radio earlier today to 2.42.00.03.10 and have PRL 60663. I am seeing a significant increase in battery life. Is anyone else seeing this or is it just my imagination? I'm running the new DamageControl 2.06 ROM.
I am running under the same conditions and have definitely seen better battery life.
I have seen better battery life with this radio too.
Also...I more than doubled my battery life by going into settings>Wireless and Networks>Mobile Network Settings> and UNCHECK "enable always-on mobile..."
Then I went into Settings>Location> Uncheck "Use wireless Networks", and Check "Use GPS".
With these settings and GPS on, I used my phone pretty heavily for 15 hours and had 54% battery life when I went to bed.
The only thing is that with enable always-on mobile unchecked, your phone only updates data when the screen is on, which means that it will only fetch emails/gmails when you turn the screen on. If it's idle, you won't get your gmail, but if the screen is on (for any reason)...then it'll fetch and update all your data. For me it's worth it to get my gmails a little later and more than doubling my battery life.
Hope this helps someone
I have definitely seen an increase in battery life with this new Radio.
I'm new to Radios... Since this new radio seems good, how do I go about flashing it? Is it a zip file like if I were doing a rom?
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I'm new to Radios... Since this new radio seems good, how do I go about flashing it? Is it a zip file like if I were doing a rom?
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How To: Flash a Radio Update Sprint HTC Hero
Download: Radio Baseband 2.42.00.03.10 for Sprint CDMA Hero
That should be everything you need. Ask away if you have any questions.
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How To: Flash a Radio Update Sprint HTC Hero
Download: Radio Baseband 2.42.00.03.10 for Sprint CDMA Hero
That should be everything you need. Ask away if you have any questions.
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Thanks! My baseband is still 1.04.01.09.21
Haven't had any battery issues, but an update should be well worth it.
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How To: Flash a Radio Update Sprint HTC Hero
Download: Radio Baseband 2.42.00.03.10 for Sprint CDMA Hero
That should be everything you need. Ask away if you have any questions.
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hey flipz figured i would try to catch you wjile your on and before you dissappear like zorro have you found any concrete facts upon the location variable to this radio...i see nothing but positive things about it although i dont see the positive effects...im still go back to the eris radio for fresh 2.0b2 and works the best for me...im also in northwest ohio but i figured the radio things had to be like a east coast west coast thing...any insight?
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hey flipz figured i would try to catch you wjile your on and before you dissappear like zorro have you found any concrete facts upon the location variable to this radio...i see nothing but positive things about it although i dont see the positive effects...im still go back to the eris radio for fresh 2.0b2 and works the best for me...im also in northwest ohio but i figured the radio things had to be like a east coast west coast thing...any insight?
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In theory they are designed to work the same everywhere. Once an update rolls out it will only be one radio, just the same as our 1.5 one was. However without a doubt, some seem to work better for people based on their area and it's always been that way on every phone. Unfortunately there is no concrete way to know which one will work better for people. I suppose it just depends on what hardware they are using in the towers around you. But I'm not a mobile network engineer so I'm honestly not 100% sure.
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In theory they are designed to work the same everywhere. Once an update rolls out it will only be one radio, just the same as our 1.5 one was. However without a doubt, some seem to work better for people based on their area and it's always been that way on every phone. Unfortunately there is no concrete way to know which one will work better for people. I suppose it just depends on what hardware they are using in the towers around you. But I'm not a mobile network engineer so I'm honestly not 100% sure.
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yea thats what i thought..because even when i ran 1.1 with the stock radio @ work i would never get a 3g sig...when i moved up to that 2.1 eris leak on got that new radio i got a substancially better at signal and greatly improved my battery and i couldnt of been happier...so when i saw the new new radio i was like wow can it even get better??? but then it was same as stock radio basically i never got a 3g sig..and i was scared about this first since the radio was i geuss for "verizon" and im now not runing the eris leak but it works great...all my co-workers on verizon always had better service than me...but ever since the eris radio i get just as much service as them btw flipz cant "flippin" wait to get 2.1 support on the kitchen!
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i was scared about this first since the radio was i geuss for "verizon"
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Yea, on my touch pro I used to use a telus radio on Sprint because it gave me the best signal and speed. It wasn't the newest version or even made for Sprint, but it's what worked for me in my city!
ive seen a great improvement with this radio on 2.0d. they seem to have tweaked the bars b/c now im at 4-6 whereas previously id be 2-4, though the dbm is right around the same as always at home. i am, however, getting through the day with 50% battery left whereas before i would be 20% or less
Improved Battery and Radio performance in NYC. THANKS
Wait flipz... so you're saying we could use Verizon radios on our phones if we live in an area where Verizon gets excellent signal everywhere, and then our phone (on Sprint) would get signal like a Verizon phone?
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Then I went into Settings>Location> Uncheck "Use wireless Networks", and Check "Use GPS".
With these settings and GPS on, I used my phone pretty heavily for 15 hours and had 54% battery life when I went to bed.
i don't know how you can say that you get more battery life with this tweak. In my nexus righ next to the box where you can chek this option, has the following saying: "uses more battery"... is to you to think about.
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mrinehart93 said:
Wait flipz... so you're saying we could use Verizon radios on our phones if we live in an area where Verizon gets excellent signal everywhere, and then our phone (on Sprint) would get signal like a Verizon phone?
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It worked for WinMO. I used to use a Telus radio on my diamond. But I'm not sure I'd mess with flashing other vendor's radios on your hero. TECHNICALLY it should work. But I wouldn't want to be the test case.
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i just downloaded this radio to see what all the fuss was about, and in my room it dropped my signal, now it keeps going back and forth to 1x now just over and over, im using the new damage rom, you guys think if i change to the newest flipz maybe it would be different. i know this sounds strange but i do feel like with certain roms i get better signal in my home, cause i tried the previous damage roms and all the previous flipz and for some reason i always get better signal in my home with the flipz roms! im just a confused soul.......
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Then I went into Settings>Location> Uncheck "Use wireless Networks", and Check "Use GPS".
With these settings and GPS on, I used my phone pretty heavily for 15 hours and had 54% battery life when I went to bed.
i don't know how you can say that you get more battery life with this tweak. In my nexus righ next to the box where you can chek this option, has the following saying: "uses more battery"... is to you to think about.
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That's why I'm saying to uncheck it. Cuz the option to have it checked uses more battery. Read it again.
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Would this Radio be compatible with Cyanogen 6.1 froyo extremely blue rom? its 2.2.1 android.
Embargho101 said:
Would this Radio be compatible with Cyanogen 6.1 froyo extremely blue rom? its 2.2.1 android.
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This thread is old. There are newer radios out.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
okay im running pancake 1.5 and i have the latest prl version. i noticed my signal is worse now than before and it drops out alot. could there be a fix for this? maybe roll back to a previous prl? im also noticing the phone gets laggy at times, then i loose the evo icon, then it comes back after 30 seconds.... idea's???
Which radio (baseband) are you running?
im running flipz prl and radio
cant vouch for battery
can definatly vouch for signal
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Which radio (baseband) are you running?
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the stock one for 1.5 i guess, i haven't installed any other ones. im currently flashing your 2.1 rom...do you recommend a custom radio?
You can always revert you just have to find someone that has the old PRL file.. If you give me a little bit, I might be able to find that for you on my old service computer.. It crapped out last week so I don't know if I still have it or not..
The PRL lets the phone know how it is supposed to interact with roaming towers, so if the updated PRL removed a tower near you, due to contract or whatever, you are most likely having your issue because of that.. Also, if it adds a tower that previously wasn't in your PRL, you could be polling between the two, back and forth with no solid connection, that would explain the EV drop..
Also, if the output was decreased for whatever reason, you could just be too far away from the tower...
Give me a little while, and I will PM you if I can find a way for you to revert. I am pretty sure you have to have RMS so you might not be able to with my file..
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the stock one for 1.5 i guess, i haven't installed any other ones. im currently flashing your 2.1 rom...do you recommend a custom radio?
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Yea definitely upgrade the radio. They actually aren't custom radios, just ones stripped from newer roms or phones.
Check http://geekfor.me/radio for the list. The newest one out is http://geekfor.me/radio/radio-242000310/ which 90% of people have better battery life and signal quality. However depending on where you live and what equipment is used in your area, that isn't always the cost. Most of the people who aren't using 2.42 are using this one http://geekfor.me/radio/radio-241040203/
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You can always revert you just have to find someone that has the old PRL file.. If you give me a little bit, I might be able to find that for you on my old service computer.. It crapped out last week so I don't know if I still have it or not..
The PRL lets the phone know how it is supposed to interact with roaming towers, so if the updated PRL removed a tower near you, due to contract or whatever, you are most likely having your issue because of that.. Also, if it adds a tower that previously wasn't in your PRL, you could be polling between the two, back and forth with no solid connection, that would explain the EV drop..
Also, if the output was decreased for whatever reason, you could just be too far away from the tower...
Give me a little while, and I will PM you if I can find a way for you to revert. I am pretty sure you have to have RMS so you might not be able to with my file..
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wow man you are smart(i mean that in most literal sense possible)
if what he says is true (i dont doubt it is) then id advice switching between the two and experimenting. i know avalaunch posted a solid method of rollback, alltho i believe it concerns a hard reset, and your msl, which is apprently hard to get. good luck, i think the guy i qouted would be more of a help.
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Yea definitely upgrade the radio. They actually aren't custom radios, just ones stripped from newer roms or phones.
Check http://geekfor.me/radio for the list. The newest one out is http://geekfor.me/radio/radio-242000310/ which 90% of people have better battery life and signal quality. However depending on where you live and what equipment is used in your area, that isn't always the cost. Most of the people who aren't using 2.42 are using this one http://geekfor.me/radio/radio-241040203/
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can i flash back to stock radio if need be? thanks though, ill give it a go!
Yeah Ill be honest. I think in my area, I got better signal before using the 2.42. I think Im gonna roll back and see how it goes.
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can i flash back to stock radio if need be? thanks though, ill give it a go!
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Yup there is a link to download/flash the stock one in there too. http://geekfor.me/radio/baseband-104010921/
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can i flash back to stock radio if need be? thanks though, ill give it a go!
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ah, see now here i can help. avalaunch also posted the stock radio a long time ago, flashable in recovery, and i can vouch for a sucssful flash and rollback. decided new radio in combo of flipz prl indeed boosted my signal. like i said, no go on the battery but overall worth it in the end.
i do have to say, because i was warned, radio flashing is indeed tricky buisness, do some reading up.
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Yeah Ill be honest. I think in my area, I got better signal before using the 2.42. I think Im gonna roll back and see how it goes.
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Because, as I have said numerous times before, and no one listens, the service you are getting is dependent on your a)location b)distance from tower c) PRL (for roaming and interconnectivity with other towers)..
The only thing the radio does is manage the signal power input and output of a device..
yeah im going back to the stock radio, the 2.1 radio signal was far worse.
Ive noticed just after the other day my phone roams almost constantly, I have the 60664 PRL and yet it still roams even in my own house. What can I do?
does anyone get SMS errors (like 107, 97, or any others)? Or "Radio interface resource shortage" errors?
I've been getting these for a week now since I got a refurbished phone. Called Sprint a half hour ago, and they reset something on their end that was supposed to help, but I just got an SMS error again, so apparently it didn't fix it. It's certainly not due to a lack of service, as I have full service. Profile and PRL are all updated. I haven't updated the android version yet due to the reports of bugs, and it not being rootable.
Any ideas? I can call and complain to Sprint again, and since this is my third Shift, I can get any other device, but I'd really rather not...I like the Shift lol
I only get SMS errors if I am texting too fast. But they still all go through.
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I only get SMS errors if I am texting too fast. But they still all go through.
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mine seems that it drops data when a text is going, and then takes a very long time to reestablish the data connection, if it does at all
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does anyone get SMS errors (like 107, 97, or any others)? Or "Radio interface resource shortage" errors?
I've been getting these for a week now since I got a refurbished phone. Called Sprint a half hour ago, and they reset something on their end that was supposed to help, but I just got an SMS error again, so apparently it didn't fix it. It's certainly not due to a lack of service, as I have full service. Profile and PRL are all updated. I haven't updated the android version yet due to the reports of bugs, and it not being rootable.
Any ideas? I can call and complain to Sprint again, and since this is my third Shift, I can get any other device, but I'd really rather not...I like the Shift lol
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When I had stock 2.2 I was getting the same issues... I think its a sense thing... I am on nightly #124 now and I have absolutely no issues save for navigation. Then again ever since I went with AOSP over sense I've had no issues. If you want to stick with sense. Maybe try the RUU 2.2 or try the rooted GB update... unsure though
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When I had stock 2.2 I was getting the same issues... I think its a sense thing... I am on nightly #124 now and I have absolutely no issues save for navigation. Then again ever since I went with AOSP over sense I've had no issues. If you want to stick with sense. Maybe try the RUU 2.2 or try the rooted GB update... unsure though
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It's not sense, I know that for certain. The first two devices didn't have any service problems other than the occasional error popping up when I literally had no service while roaming
Maybe its just the one u have. Maybe like a bug or error. Try using the RUU. Maybe give it a fresh system. I've used the RUU and it doesn't have any issues. I'm just stabbing in the dark here.
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thronnos said:
Maybe its just the one u have. Maybe like a bug or error. Try using the RUU. Maybe give it a fresh system. I've used the RUU and it doesn't have any issues. I'm just stabbing in the dark here.
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tried that, twice. I rooted this one twice, put custom ROM's on, RUU'd a couple times, didn't fix it. I think if anything there's a problem with the antennas or the software controlling the interaction of the antennas. I'm getting another one on Tuesday, so hopefully that'll work better
Just shot in the dark maybe try flashing the old radio.
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I get the same error, quite frequently...but only in areas of low signal. I figured it was simply that...maybe not?
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I get the same error, quite frequently...but only in areas of low signal. I figured it was simply that...maybe not?
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I haven't had my new phone in low signal areas yet, so I'm not sure. I know my Mom's shift gets the errors quite frequently when she's at home, where signal is very weak. But I rarely got them even there. I might be out there sometime in the next few days, so I'll have to check it out.
Okay, here's my problem. I've got my Samsung Epic up and running (finally), but for two annoying bugs: or it might be one bug with two parts.
One, the signal strength "wobbles" a lot, going from no bars (but still holding service) to almost full bars. I assumed at first that this is just a quirk of the preferred tower configuration around my home.
Part two is more annoying. Sometimes it will, apparently somewhat randomly, lose all signal, which prompts the phone to reboot. Actually it's not a TRUE reboot, it's just the half-reboot that happens when the Android shell crashes: return to boot animation, then reload everything. Often, it'll do this several times in a row. It was doing it horribly when I was running the AOSP version 4 ROM, so I flashed back to a semi-stock configuration (stock ROM plus ClockworkMod). But it's still doing it. Modem version is EC05, and I'm running on a Verizon MVNO. Can anyone offer suggestions?
Try updating your modem to the EI22 released modem and get on an EI22 ROM.
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Yeah, EI22 fixes most of the signal dropouts for me. Just update your modem.
On EH17 my bars would randomly go to 0 and data would drop out even though I'm parked on a repeater here at work, getting -76db signal (that's really, really good).
i just got a new (or probably refurb) phone from best buy after my original broke. (thank you black tie) and this new stock phone does this same stuff you are describing. this phone sucks! reboots, lock ups, bluetooth doesnt work, keyboard skips.. .what a joke.
so should i call sprint and try to get something other than an epic or go to best buy and have them order me another one? any suggestions?
Well, following the advice upthread I've gone ahead and installed the stock EI22 update for the Epic. We'll see how it turns out.
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i just got a new (or probably refurb) phone from best buy after my original broke. (thank you black tie) and this new stock phone does this same stuff you are describing. this phone sucks! reboots, lock ups, bluetooth doesnt work, keyboard skips.. .what a joke.
so should i call sprint and try to get something other than an epic or go to best buy and have them order me another one? any suggestions?
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Black Tie is supposed to give you new phones. Keyboard skips are Samsung's error. Flash a custom ROM with the fixes implemented by the DEVs here.
Followup: after flashing the Sprint stock EI22 ROM, I'm still getting wacky signal strength fluctuations, but it's stopped resetting, which makes me happy. I'd be happier if I could get it to stick with the strong signal, but I'll live.
Try using an app like Network Info or Tasker to see if your phone is hopping towers while the signal is fluctuating. Maybe a PRL update will help.
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Followup: after flashing the Sprint stock EI22 ROM, I'm still getting wacky signal strength fluctuations, but it's stopped resetting, which makes me happy. I'd be happier if I could get it to stick with the strong signal, but I'll live.
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It could be maintenance or a tower failing near you.
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Black Tie is supposed to give you new phones. Keyboard skips are Samsung's error. Flash a custom ROM with the fixes implemented by the DEVs here.
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im sure you are right, but doesn't anyone think it should just work from the store? i know its a novel idea but i think top notch phones should work right out of the box.
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im sure you are right, but doesn't anyone think it should just work from the store? i know its a novel idea but i think top notch phones should work right out of the box.
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Yes it should. Unfortunately the keyboard skips have yet to be addressed by Samsung. There is a maintenance update being worked on. Some people are still getting reboots with the new OTA for Gingerbread but not many. So maybe that will be addressed as well as the keyboard skips.
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Try using an app like Network Info or Tasker to see if your phone is hopping towers while the signal is fluctuating. Maybe a PRL update will help.
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I'll try those--I was trying to use CellID Info for that purpose, but it hasn't reflected any changes at all between high signal and low signal. So far Network Info II isn't either, but we'll see. I did try a PRL update the other night, to no avail.
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It could be maintenance or a tower failing near you.
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That's possible. God knows I'm out in the middle of nowhere, so quality of service probably isn't a high priority. I haven't seen it reflected in other Verizon devices I've looked at the last couple days, but then I haven't exactly been looking at them that closely.
My signal does seem a lot more consistent today--right now I'm stuck at 2-3 out of 6 bars, but it's holding that constantly with very little variation, less even than I would think was normal. Maybe it was a network problem after all and not just my device. That would be nice.
Edit: Looks like I spoke a little too soon, as I just had one complete signal dropout. But it's still better than it was.
That could be when they just swapped out amplifiers at the tower that was giving you trouble. Also it seems Sprint service is subject to a lot of dead zones. I got a big dead spot in my house.
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That could be when they just swapped out amplifiers at the tower that was giving you trouble. Also it seems Sprint service is subject to a lot of dead zones. I got a big dead spot in my house.
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I'm not on Sprint, it's flashed to a Verizon MVNO, so I'm on VZW towers.
Strangely, I've seen my AT&T Android phone lose signal too a couple times today--which is bizarre, because it almost never does that. AT&T around here is only 2G, and slow 2G at that, but the signal is very reliable. Just enough to make me wonder if something weird is going on locally.
In case anyone's still interested in this: it's still doing it, so it's pretty clearly the phone. However when I took it into a building where there's normally poor signal, it stopped doing it and held the stronger signal. Is it possible that because this is a Sprint radio, it's trying to default to 1900 MHz, instead of the stronger 850 signal?